Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-03-15 Thread Paul McClernan via use-livecode
Late to this thread, but I’d like to add some FYI: You can get a free Apple Dev account, which allows you to code-sign (but not notarize, only Apple can do that) Mac apps and up to 5 or so iOS apps (which you would have to "side load” somehow unless you jailbreak your iDevice). However,

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-27 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks, Matthias. I had tried it without a dollar sign, but I’ll re-check. Thanks for looking at this. Bill > On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:14 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > William, > > i just tried in a Monterey VM > > the syntax > pw=YourPassword; echo $pw | sudo -S ...

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-27 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
William, i just tried in a Monterey VM the syntax pw=YourPassword; echo $pw | sudo -S ... works here as long as i do not have a $ sign in my password. The problem seems to be that the dollar sign is a special character in shell. I am not a shell expert, but i've read that strings that

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-27 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
As i have still 11.6.2 installed i cannot test, if this might be something Monterey specific. I am currently downloading Monterey and will install it onto a VM, so i could test. But the 12GB take some time to download. There is a free tool available from Late Night Software called SD Notary,

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Matthias: I tried the command in the shell It didn’t work as shown in the status field. I then switched to superuser, with the password, and it ran the following without complaint. xattr -cr "/Users/prothero/Oceanography Projects/LiveCode-RunRev Projects/1-AA-Current Projects/PT_Explorer

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
William, did you try to run that line from shell? Just as a test? Is it executed then without a problem? > Am 26.01.2022 um 23:28 schrieb William Prothero via use-livecode > : > > pw=x39AB$rp; echo $pw | sudo -S xattr -cr "/Users/prothero/Oceanography > Projects/LiveCode-RunRev

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 1/26/22 2:39 PM, Keith Martin via use-livecode wrote: If only it was easier to do.  I've actually stopped using LC much because the process of making apps that people can run without fuss has become ridiculous. I'm still hoping for a solution that isn't so aggressively hostile! The current

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Folks: I’m using the notarizing app. I have it set to only “Sign, notarize and staple App”. I’ve tested the suDo password in the terminal and it’s ok. In debug mode, I get: ***DEBUG MODE*** deleting zip file... can't delete that file can't

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
+1 to Peter’s comments I also have benefited from the lesson listed below and Matthias’ helper stack. Also when I ran into problems following the lesson or using the Helper stack Matthias was very responsive and helpful. Setting up an Apple Developer account is not hard and just a part of

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Matthias’ tool has been a lifesaver for me. I use it constantly. You do need to get an Apple developer account going, and the dev certificates in Keychain in order, which can be a challenge. But once that’s done it’s a breeze. If you want to create an installer, you’ll need to code sign that

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
This situation does not only affect Livecode, but all development tools. Even Xcode. To get your programs trusted by macOS you need to sign and notarize. There is little that can be done about it. We can either accept it or stop developing for macOS. Of course it would be great if the

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I'm about to go through that process of setting up an app developer profile with apple. After they take my kid and steal all my money, apparently it will be a pretty easy process afterwards taking mere minutes to sign and notarize. Good luck to us all. Thanks, Tom Glod Founder & Developer

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Kevin Miller via use-livecode
While this may not be applicable in all cases, the Web deployment options in 10 should resolve this for a great many sorts of LC apps. ⁣Get BlueMail for Android ​ On 26 Jan 2022, 20:40, at 20:40, Keith Martin via use-livecode wrote: >If only it was easier to do.  >I've actually stopped

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
If only it was easier to do.  I've actually stopped using LC much because the process of making apps that people can run without fuss has become ridiculous. I'm still hoping for a solution that isn't so aggressively hostile! The current situation feels like a direct threat to LiveCode the

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
If you have an Apple Developer Account membership you could code sign and notarize your app. This should prevent the security issue. Regards, Matthias > Am 26.01.2022 um 20:29 schrieb William Prothero via use-livecode > : > > Folks: > Sorry for this question which probably has been answered

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Paul McClernan via use-livecode
Just an FYI, you have to do that right-click-to-open thing TWICE on BigSur and higher to clear the gatekeeper check before the app will actually launch on the second try. There’s actually few ways to get by the gatekeeper. On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 2:36 PM Richmond via use-livecode <

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Bill, > Am 26.01.2022 um 20:29 schrieb William Prothero via use-livecode > : > > Folks: > Sorry for this question which probably has been answered many times, but …. > I’m trying not to waste my day searching around. > What’s the best way to send a desktop app on Apple OS 12.1 to a friend

Re: Sharing a desktop app, or with beta testers

2022-01-26 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
The security issue is because the user probably just did a double-click on the thing. a right-click will allow them to run the app. On 26.01.22 21:29, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: Folks: Sorry for this question which probably has been answered many times, but …. I’m trying not to