Sean-
Thanks. I didn't know about SetFile.
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I used quotes wrong, use this:
>From LC, use:
put "powershell -command ^(Get-Item 'C:\Folder\File.txt').CreationTime=('31
December 2019 23:59:59')^" into tShell
replace "^" with quote in tShell
get shell(tShell)
Sean
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 03:57, Sean Cole (Pi) wrote:
> Touch tells it to
Touch tells it to update to now unless the date set is in the past and you
use the -d modifier.
If you install the Command Line Tools package from Apple on a mac you can
use the much better SetFile -d '12/31/1999 23:59:59' file.txt
On windoze, using powershell, send the command:
(Get-Item
On 3/14/21 4:41 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
Windows unfortunately does not include such a command line tool
I am astounded to find there is no touch command for Win.
However, there does appear to be a solution for Windows (untested) using
commandline options for the copy
Windows unfortunately does not include such a command line tool, but it should
be possible to do that with a powershell command which is executed with the
Shell() function.
so for example this command here
put shell("powershell (ls c:/users/matthias/test.txt).CreationTime = get-date
On Mac or Linux you can use the "touch" shell command - not sure if it's
available on Windows. You can download the "Shell Command Help" LC
plugin to simplify access to info about it.
Phil Davis
On 3/14/21 1:04 PM, Michael Kristensen via use-livecode wrote:
Hi there
I want to create/export
This is the bash scripts I used to successfully install LC
Server...obviously it has customized filenames in it.
#!/bin/bash
#-
# install LC Server
#-
cd ~
File a bug and we'll see if we can move the (appropriate) information into a
guide in the main repo (so the docs aren't just a webpage).
mergJSON is licensed under the GPL -
https://github.com/montegoulding/mergJSON/blob/master/LICENSE.txt
Warmest Regards,
Mark
Sent from my iPhone
> On 2
Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:
> I am currently searching for an up to date installation guide for live
> code community server. For at least Linux 64 Bit and Windows Servers.
> What I was able to dig up on the liveCode sites is rather outdated.
> :-(
The Common Gateway Interface LC uses is pretty
Because Friday, October 20, 2017 is also a date. So is 2017-10-20. So is
2017/10/20. So is 17/10/20 amd 9/20/17.
Bob S
> On Oct 20, 2017, at 08:43 , trevix via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> How about this:
>
> function IsDate pDate, pSysDate
>
> if pSysDate
How about this:
function IsDate pDate, pSysDate
if pSysDate then
put char 3 of the short system dateformat into tDelimiter
else
put char 3 of the short dateformat into tDelimiter
end if
if tDelimiter is in pDate and pDate is a date then return true
return false
end IsDate
trevix
gt; On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:14 , Andrew Bell via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>
>> >> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>> >>
l date.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:14 , Andrew Bell via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>
> >> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev
;
>> From: Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>
>> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>> Subject: Re: is a date
>> Message-ID: <6eb529a3-5d21-4186-bd90-641746e96...@iotecdigital.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="u
From: Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>
To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
Subject: Re: is a date
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This probably matters to
Again, I would prefer a simple one-liner built-in function. What if
instead of "is a date" returning true or false, it instead returned some
expected outputs like "short, long, internet, seconds, ect.". Something
short and sweet.
~Roger
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Bob Sneidar via
This probably matters to no one at all, but SQL does not store dates with
forward slashes. SQL datetime formats look like this:
-dd-mm hh:mm:ss
Bob S
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This of course assumes you know tDate is supposed to be a short date.
I also have this function which is part of the master library methinks:
function formatDate theDate, theFormat
/*
Accepts any valid date for the first parameter. If not a valid date, it
simply returns
what was
Old trick I learned in Foxpro. Convert something then convert it back and see
if it is identical.
put 20 into tDate
put tDate into tOldDate
convert tDate to dateitems
convert tDate to short date
return ((tDate is a date) and (tDate is tOldDate))
Bob S
Exactly! I was elated to find the built-in "is a date" check, because I
really wanted to NOT have to roll my own. I was THRILLED that our lovely
English-like syntax was working FOR me. And then an integer was accepted
as a legit date. I didn't like that at all. Why can't the engine have "is
a
> JLG wrote ...
> The one exception may be that any _integer_ is considered a date.
> To get around that we could just check that there are 3 items
> delimited by slashes before testing for "is a date".
I write "is a /real/ date" into my notes whenever a meeting is a date.
How do you handle such
Roger wrote:
>
> put "11/20/2017" is a date
> returns true
>
> put "10" is a date
> returns true
>
> put "raccoon" is a date
> returns false
>
>
> WHY is "10" seen as a date?
Because it is legitimately a date expressed in seconds?
convert 10 to long date
= Wednesday, December
why not have the engine do it for you - use convert to convert the possible
date to whatever format you're expecting. If it the answer isn't the same,
then you don't have a date.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:05 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Yeah.
Yeah. Unless you require a year or something, that'd work.
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On October 15, 2017 4:23:20 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
wrote:
Or x is a date and x is not an integer ?
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On 15/10/2017 21:37, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
You know, after all the dicussion here, I'm not sure any of the
options are better than "x is a date". The one exception may be that
any integer is considered a date. To get
You know, after all the dicussion here, I'm not sure any of the options
are better than "x is a date". The one exception may be that any integer
is considered a date. To get around that we could just check that there
are 3 items delimited by slashes before testing for "is a date".
--
Hi,
Does such a text « 99/99/00 » exist ?
You can also always say that it is possible that « 15/10/17 » is not a date in
a certain context
Now seriously if the function returns a valid date, you can test afterwards the
result to see if it can be something else than a date.
Now i’m not enough
On 10/15/17 1:57 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
On 10/15/2017 11:44 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On 10/15/17 5:10 AM, Yves COPPE via use-livecode wrote:
I hope this works for any date format
...
if
On 10/15/2017 11:44 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On 10/15/17 5:10 AM, Yves COPPE via use-livecode wrote:
I hope this works for any date format
...
if
matchtext(textToSearch,"(\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4})",theDay,TheMonth,TheYear)
is true then
Yes, it seems to work with any
On 10/15/17 5:10 AM, Yves COPPE via use-livecode wrote:
I hope this works for any date format
...
if
matchtext(textToSearch,"(\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4})",theDay,TheMonth,TheYear)
is true then
Yes, it seems to work with any numeric date now. I also like Ken Ray's
solution which lets the
Hi,
I hope this works for any date format
on mouseUp
ask "Give a date"
if it is empty then exit to top
answer IsDate(it)
end mouseUp
function IsDate textToSearch
local theDay, TheMonth, TheYear
put empty into tresult
if
What about this from the Master Library from Ken Ray?
function isDate pWhat
/* isDate Date
Syntax:
isDate (pWhat)
Examples:
isDate("10/10/2001")
Description:
Determines if the container passed to it in contains a valid
date.
Returns true or false.
Source:
Ken
On 10/14/17 2:14 PM, Yves COPPE via use-livecode wrote:
Try this
function CheckDate pDateToCheck
return
matchText(pDateToCheck,"([1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])")
end CheckDate
Promising, but fails with dates like "1/1/19".
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Hi,
Try this
function CheckDate pDateToCheck
return
matchText(pDateToCheck,"([1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])")
end CheckDate
answer CheckDate(tDate)
> Le 14 oct. 2017 à 19:27, Roger Eller via use-livecode
> a écrit :
>
>
That's what I suspected. So to build a slightly better trap, I am doing
this:
if tDate is a date and length(tDate) > 5 and tDate contains "/" then
put "true"
else
put "false"
end if
I am sure there is probably a standard way to catch all possible date
formats (excluding "the seconds"),
Hi Roger,
> Am 14.10.2017 um 18:30 schrieb Roger Eller via use-livecode
> :
>
> put "11/20/2017" is a date
> returns true
>
> put "10" is a date
> returns true
>
> put "raccoon" is a date
> returns false
>
>
> WHY is "10" seen as a date?
looks
Just to round up this fine solution, could also be used for LC server:
I searched for ntp handlers and found this nifty stack
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2011-August/160813.html
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Brilliant! Now I have what I need to push on!
Thank you.
Tore
> 29. nov. 2016 kl. 16.50 skrev Matthias Rebbe :
>
> The script should be as follows
>
> put the system date
> ?>
>
> You need to declare the beginning of the script with
> and the end of the script with
The script should be as follows
You need to declare the beginning of the script with
> Am 12.01.2017 um 16:26 schrieb Tore Nilsen :
>
> Thank you for your quick response. And this is where my lack of experience
> with working with lc-scripts and servers shines through.
Thank you for your quick response. And this is where my lack of experience with
working with lc-scripts and servers shines through. Although I have an account
with LiveCode, I do not know how to access lc-server via this account. When I
try this I only get the command in return, not the date.
Hi tore,
i am using Livecode Server for such tasks.
To get the correct date in an LC app i use
put URL “http://yourserver.com/whatsthetime.lc” into tCurrentDate
where yourserver.com is of course my server and whatsthetime.lc contains the
following
put the short system time
or
put the
Thanks Peter
Richmond we shall see what we shall see - but at the moment I’m full of hopeful
expectation :)
> Hi Dave,
>
> The language dev team are currently actively working on Infinite
> LiveCode, and you'll see bits and pieces of it appearing in forthcoming
> DP releases, but I don't
This is almost as old a chestnut as *audio export*.
Richmond.
On 23.09.2016 14:36, Dave Kilroy wrote:
Hi - anyone got any news / heard any rumours about a landing data for full
cross platform audio recording?
I’m particularly interested in delivering this for iOS/Android - I know I could
On 23/09/2016 12:36, Dave Kilroy wrote:
Hi - anyone got any news / heard any rumours about a landing data for
full cross platform audio recording?
I’m particularly interested in delivering this for iOS/Android - I
know I could use mergAV (and in theory mergAndroid) but would prefer
to use a
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Brahmanathaswami bra...@hindu.org wrote:
can we check the modification date of a single file?
use case: mobile; get date of local file resource; ping LC server check on
mod date of the same resource, if latter is younger, then fetch it
Sorry, can't help
JB wrote:
I don’t have a mobile but on the older versions
for desktops you use Files command.
The detailed files form returns a list of files, one file per line. Each line
contains the following attributes, separated by commas:
* The file's name, URL-encoded
* The file's size
On a mac using Xcode you would use
the NFS File Manager which is a part of
Foundation.
Livecode has imported Foundation but I
am not sure if you can acces things like
that yet.
John Balgenorth
On Aug 12, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Brahmanathaswami bra...@hindu.org wrote:
JB wrote:
I don’t have a
Brahmanathaswami wrote:
JB wrote:
I don’t have a mobile but on the older versions
for desktops you use Files command.
The detailed files form returns a list of files, one file per line.
Each line contains the following attributes, separated by commas:
* The file's name, URL-encoded
I don’t have a mobile but on the older versions
for desktops you use Files command.
The detailed files form returns a list of files, one file per line. Each line
contains the following attributes, separated by commas:
* The file's name, URL-encoded
* The file's size in bytes (on
It’s my understanding that sqLite accepts any value in any field type, whereas
mySQL will toss an error and reject the SQL statement. Correct me if I am
wrong, it’s happened before.
Bob S
On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:44 , Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:41 AM,
FYI: those interested in this date/time enhancement can add their
thoughts here:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4636
Bob Sneidar wrote:
Sorry about the extra lines in the last post. Not sure what caused that. Here
is the formatDate() function as well.
Bob S
function formatDate
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Brahmanathaswami bra...@hindu.org wrote:
FYI: those interested in this date/time enhancement can add their thoughts
here:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4636
Just added one minor note. The separator between date and time can be the
letter T as
Sorry about the extra lines in the last post. Not sure what caused that. Here
is the formatDate() function as well.
Bob S
function formatDate theDate, theFormat
/*
Accepts any valid date for the first parameter. If not a valid date, it
simply returns
what was passed. Second parameter
Not that this solves your particular problem but some might be interested in
this function. I will see if I can include this scenario in my function at some
point.
Bob S
function formatTime theTime, theFormat
/*
accepts any valid time and returns the form of the time specified in the
On 1/28/2015 8:12 PM, Brahmanathaswami wrote:
I have to deal with a lot date/time based algorithms on CentoOS/Word
Press (and other similar frameworks) where the Date is usually output
liked this, with no timezone code
2000-02-17T22:13:21-05
As anyone written a script to convert this to
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Brahmanathaswami bra...@hindu.org wrote:
2000-02-17T22:13:21-05
As anyone written a script to convert this to seconds?
If the positioning is fixed (as is implied by the leading 0s) then I think
this will work:
function S D
put format(%s/%s/%s %s,char 6 to
Thanks again, Mike! Much obliged.
Gregory
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012, at 6:16 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
Message: 9
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:52:33 -0700
From: Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Getting
The easiest way I can think of would be to have the web server running and
a page that returns the date and time. Alternatively you might be able to
turn on the ntp server for your mac and then talk to that.
I'm sure there are other ways too, but these are off the top of my head
real quick.
On
not too hard if you write a small app to live on the remote mac. Check out
sockets in the dictionary and download Chatrev to see how they're used.
http://bjoernke.com/index.irev?target=chatrev
On 15 January 2012 09:20, Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca wrote:
Hello everyone,
Is there
Had one more though in the same vein. I think Andre has a stack that is a
basic http server. It would probably be easy to modify it so that the
server itself could return your time/date info as well as any other system
info you wanted to be able to get at remotely. And since it does its thing
Yep the revonrockets and http stack by Andre works great and already has a
sample of returning the time. It works great. The time example uses a .rev
stack as a cgi. (look in the stacks folder) The stack script has examples
of how to use the cgi stack. Currently it has a method for getting the
Thanks for your help !
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Simpler is this:
put 1/01/1900 into d
convert d to dateitems
add 40892 to item 3 of d
convert d to short date
put d
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On Dec 15, 2011, at 10:17 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
The following is very verbose. I just want you
Search the archives. I think Sarah wrote a julian date converter, but the
problem is that the Julian date can mean several things depending on the
source. Can you have Excel display the date as international format? Otherwise,
I bet there is an Applescript you can use if you are doing this on a
Dates are displayed in numbers. (1/01/1900 = 1 so today = 40892)
Is there a script to convert it in a real date with livecode ?
I'm working on an Excel importer library, so I've been doing dates as
well. Date conversion and Excel-style date/number formatting options are
needed anyway behind
The following is very verbose. I just want you to be able to follow one
possible method step by step. Read up on all the commands in the dictionary.
Put a breakpoint near the beginning.
on mouseup
convert the date to seconds
put 40892 , it into baseLine
ask Enter excel date
put it -
I too am scratching my head on that one, Bob.
Gregory
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011, at 6:46 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:31:13 -0700
From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Grabbing
head on that one, Bob.
Gregory
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011, at 6:46 PM, use-livecode-request@lists.runrev.comwrote:
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:31:13 -0700
From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Grabbing the Date and Time
16, 2011, at 11:44 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0700
From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Grabbing the Date and Time From a Time Server on the
Internet
Message
I see the problem here. The url I use does not return the year! And I cannot
just get the year from the system date, because that defeats the whole purpose
of a RealTime function. Going to have to do a bit more research.
Bob
On Aug 16, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote:
Hi Bob,
Good
This returns a ton of html, from which the date time can be filtered using
H2*, but since it takes about 30 seconds to run, and returns 32 entries, I
am not sure how useful this would for him, if he wanted an exact time (within a
second or two).
Time servers are NTP:\\ aren't they? Looks like
Bob, I don't see a ton of html at
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl
It's just about as simple as it could be presented. It took just a few lines
of Livecode to scrape. Determine AM and PM and one could even translate to
24 hour clock. There's about a half second of latency.
I just see
it's UDP. One could use sockets in Livecode. Probably pretty easy to make
a Time Server LIb
here's the poop from the time
peoplehttp://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.cfm
http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.cfm
On 15 August 2011 11:57, stephen barncard
I'll try sending this again, revised (third time -- someone let me know please
if it's getting through). It returns the time fast enough (with a speedy
connection) to be within a second or so.
--
You can fetch the time from the U.S. Naval Observatory atomic clock. This
assumes
Oh hey there you go! But that was not the URL originally posted.
Bob
On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:57 AM, stephen barncard wrote:
Bob, I don't see a ton of html at
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl
It's just about as simple as it could be presented. It took just a few lines
of Livecode
Looks like only the time zones applicable to the US, however a simple table of
time zones and their +/- relation to Universal Time could easily make this into
a capable International Time function, once you knew the user's current time
zone.
This interests me, because while I *could* depend
Beat me to the punch!
Bob
On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:
I'll try sending this again, revised (third time -- someone let me know
please if it's getting through). It returns the time fast enough (with a
speedy connection) to be within a second or so.
Maybe a little more concise:
function realTime theFormat
breakpoint
put http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl; into theURL
get url theURL
put it into theResult
filter theResult with BR*UTC*
replace BR with empty in theResult
put word 1 to 3 of theResult into
On Monday, August 15, 2011 12:31:25 PM Bob Sneidar wrote:
This interests me, because while I could depend on the system time I suppose,
to datetimestamp entries in an SQL tab
But wouldn't it be simpler, and smarter, to let the db create and store store
its own timestamp as the insert is made?
I suppose I could do that and then do a conversion coming and going.
Bob
On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Warren Samples wrote:
On Monday, August 15, 2011 12:31:25 PM Bob Sneidar wrote:
This interests me, because while I could depend on the system time I
suppose, to datetimestamp entries in
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:25:06 -0700
From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Grabbing the Date and Time From a Time Server on the
Internet
Message-ID: 5ec0da15-9be3-41d9-b047-250e2733c...@twft.com
Content-Type: text/plain
LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Grabbing the Date and Time From a Time Server on the
Internet
Message-ID:
CAFmQfH+BdsdJb3Dmzz3TbmTm=ete4mdrxjyykx3w0xug0bx...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Bob, I don't see a ton of html at
http
In my testing, the convert command fails with the date as given by the webpage,
because the date lacks the year. Hence the need to insert the year first. And
there needs to be no comma in the date.
-- Peter
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On Aug 15, 2011, at
I may have sent you a version that was bugged. This is the final one I came up
with:
function realTime theFormat, useOffset
if useOffset is empty then put false into useOffset
put http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl; into theURL
get url theURL
put it into theResult
filter
I missed the beginning of this thread so I'm probably missing the point
here, but what's wrong with using the LC internet date?
Pete
Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
I may have sent you a version that was bugged.
The Internet Date returns the date and time, along with the current time zone
set in your preferences. If the user changes his date and time manually though,
it will faithfully return whatever the user enters. Querying a time server on
the internet will always return the real date and time.
Ah, so the internet date is not really the internet date at all it's just
whatever the computer's current date is in internet format. Interesting,
didn't know that.
Pete
Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
The
Gregory-
Saturday, August 13, 2011, 10:33:29 AM, you wrote:
Taking another kick at the cat here. Id like to use something like
get url (http://[time server address])
How's this?
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/anim
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On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:
Taking another kick at the cat here. I’d like to use something like
get url (http://[time server address])
to grab the current date and time from an official time server. This would
be used in a LiveCode standalone distributed to
Peter-
Saturday, August 13, 2011, 2:03:05 PM, you wrote:
I sent this message a couple days ago, apparently it never went
through. (Parenthetically, even though I've set my preferences on
the use-Livecode mailing list webpage to Receive your own posts to
the list = yes, I never see any of my
you can see your own posts in 'ALL MAIL' and move the ones that matter to
the inbox.
Also once part of a thread, it will show up.
On 13 August 2011 16:33, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
Peter-
Saturday, August 13, 2011, 2:03:05 PM, you wrote:
I sent this message a couple days
On Aug 13, 2011, at 8:22 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
you can see your own posts in 'ALL MAIL' and move the ones that matter to
the inbox.
Also once part of a thread, it will show up.
That would be fine if I were using gmail via the browser, but I have my Mac
Mail client set to fetch mail
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