Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-30 Thread Simon Smith
More issues with shellshock :( http://mashable.com/2014/09/29/shellshock-additional-vulnerabilities/ On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:08 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: My client will be happy about that. On September 28, 2014 12:07:07 PM CDT, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Okay so if you turn off SSH in the Sharing panel, no one is getting at your Mac anyway. Just turn it off. Routers and Cameras on the other hand you may not be able to turn it off, those are the devices you *really* need to be concerned about. Bob S On Sep 25, 2014, at 13:12 , Mark

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
If you have enabled SSH in the sharing panel of preferences. Bob S On Sep 26, 2014, at 14:33 , Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net wrote: Can anyone explain exactly what this means? What are those special, advanced Unix services? But Apple said in an emailed statement that most of its users

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
A jailbroken iPhone has shell capability. Bob S On Sep 27, 2014, at 20:04 , J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.commailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Yeah. I think a lot of servers will be in trouble, but fewer consumers than the media makes it out to be. I have discovered: Android

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Saturday, September 27, 2014, 8:04:13 PM, you wrote: So it seems to me that Apache servers and 'nix users need updating but other consumers are for the most part okay, including mobile users. Amazon updated and rebooted *all* their AWS servers the other day, one by one. I'm thankful

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
My client will be happy about that. On September 28, 2014 12:07:07 PM CDT, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jacque- Saturday, September 27, 2014, 8:04:13 PM, you wrote: So it seems to me that Apache servers and 'nix users need updating but other consumers are for the most part

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-27 Thread Bruce Pokras
Thanks Rick! I guess between Mark's link to localhost which simply gave me a cannot connect error in Safari, and your explanation, this is really a non-issue for the vast majority of OS X users. Regards, Bruce On Sep 27, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com wrote: Hi

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bruce Pokras wrote: this is really a non-issue for the vast majority of OS X users. Most home CLIENT COMPUTERS are probably safe, but many other systems remain vulnerable, and with things like routers those can compromise internally-connected clients. Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols at ZDNet has

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-27 Thread Richmond
I just upgraded my machine with Ubuntu Studio from 14.04 to 14.10 and see that the BASH is 4.3-9, so, fingers crossed. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-27 Thread Mike Kerner
For Bruce, unless you have your Mac set up as a server, bash should not be available remotely. For Richmond, RedHat just posted their supposedly full batch patch this AM, although the white hats have run into another issue with the parser, today that causes a heap overflow. I'm waiting for them

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-27 Thread Bruce Pokras
Some of the articles about the vulnerability make it sound like every Mac on the planet could be taken over by bad guys. Talk about spreading FUD! On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: For Bruce, unless you have your Mac set up as a server, bash should not

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/27/2014, 4:58 PM, Bruce Pokras wrote: Some of the articles about the vulnerability make it sound like every Mac on the planet could be taken over by bad guys. Talk about spreading FUD! Yeah. I think a lot of servers will be in trouble, but fewer consumers than the media makes it out to

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-27 Thread Mike Kerner
Now we're working on round 3, by the way. There are some more things that are coming out from fuzzing the parser. We'll see what the short and medium-term plans are, but if I read it right, there are probably 3-5 more patches, minimum, coming. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:04 PM, J. Landman Gay

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-26 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Sep 25, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: I also went to the real website for Homeland Security: http://www.dhs.gov/news There is absolutely nothing about any vulnerability in bash in the news there! Yes there is. Do a search on their site for shellshock. Or is there a joke here

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter- Friday, September 26, 2014, 8:41:35 AM, you wrote: Or is there a joke here I'm not getting? Yeah, Rick was just trolling. Move along, nothing to see here. Shellshock is a level 10 alert, and there is no 11. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-26 Thread Bruce Pokras
Can anyone explain exactly what this means? What are those special, advanced Unix services? But Apple said in an emailed statement that most of its users aren't affected, as OS X's systems are safe by default and not exposed to remote exploits of Bash -- unless users have actively turned on

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Bruce- Friday, September 26, 2014, 2:33:12 PM, you wrote: Can anyone explain exactly what this means? What are those special, advanced Unix services? But Apple said in an emailed statement that most of its users aren't affected, as OS X's systems are safe by default and not exposed to

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-26 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Bruce, I believe those special advanced Unix services Apple is referring to involves people who have set up their machines to use Unix SSH to remotely control their machines. This is not set up by default by Apple. You have to know something about using the Terminal and Unix commands to set

ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
I've been spending the morning reading up on the recently-discovered Shell Shock vulnerability. Most of my Ubuntu machines were already patched, but it seems Apple hasn't issued a patch as of this writing. Anyone here heard any definitive word on when Apple will provide a patch, or when the

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Watch the patches. The white hats are discovering that many of them are incomplete. I've seen at least two follow-up scripts that try to exploit the patches. You can always dump bash for another shell, and avoid the issue until it's fixed for realzies. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Richard

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mark Talluto
On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Anyone here heard any definitive word on when Apple will provide a patch, or when the second round of patches for other systems will become available? Apple just pushed a security update. Installing now. Mark

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Dirk prive
You can find a tester for it at https://shellshocker.net/ Dirk Cleenwerck On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Watch the patches. The white hats are discovering that many of them are incomplete. I've seen at least two follow-up scripts that try to

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/09/14 21:36, Dirk prive wrote: You can find a tester for it at https://shellshocker.net/ Having updated my Linux machines, and then running: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c echo this is a test I get vulnerable currently filling my knickers. Richmond. Dirk Cleenwerck On

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mark Talluto
On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Anyone here heard any definitive word on when Apple will provide a patch, or when the second round of patches for other systems will

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Yes, Richmond, that's today's version. Yesterday's version is supposed to be patched. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Richard Gaskin

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Here's the email I just got from CERT: [image: NCCIC / US-CERT] National Cyber Awareness System: TA14-268A: GNU Bourne Again Shell (Bash) ‘Shellshock’ Vulnerability (CVE-2014-6271,CVE-2014-7169) https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-268A 09/25/2014 12:56 PM EDT Original release date:

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi everyone, I did a few tests on devices that I have available. Mac OS X 10.4.11 is vulnerable. Mac OS X 10.6.8 is not vulnerable. Mac OS X 10.7.11 is vulerable. After installing the latest security update, 10.7.11 is still vulnerable. As you know, Ubuntu, most other Linux flavours, and

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Rick Harrison
Pulling the computer from the internet until I hear Apple has fixed it! I don’t have time to mess with different shells hoping they work. I’ll check back in a day or so, and do something analog until then. Thanks for the head’s up! Rick ___ use-livecode

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Well, RedHat was patched early this morning, and appears to be ok. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com wrote: Pulling the computer from the internet until I hear Apple has fixed it! I don’t have time to mess with different shells hoping they work. I’ll

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Hmm. RedHat says their patch is incomplete. I wonder what script that I haven't seen, yet, works. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Well, RedHat was patched early this morning, and appears to be ok. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Rick Harrison

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Here's the full explanation from RedHat, https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 which is pretty extensive, including a section on mitigation steps On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hmm. RedHat says their patch is incomplete. I wonder what

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Rick Harrison
Hey there, How come if I run: env x='() { :;}; echo Not vulnerable' bash -c echo this is a test” I get: Not vulnerable Is this a c/bash joke or what? I also went to the real website for Homeland Security: http://www.dhs.gov/news There is absolutely nothing about any vulnerability in bash

Re: ShellShock - what are you doing?

2014-09-25 Thread Mike Kerner
lmao Nice. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com wrote: Hey there, How come if I run: env x='() { :;}; echo Not vulnerable' bash -c echo this is a test” I get: Not vulnerable Is this a c/bash joke or what? I also went to the real website for