Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Dunno about that: if they use a standard coffin for me there'll have to be a bit of "topping and tailing". ;-) And, at the rate I'm going a few slices of "bacon" off the sides as well . . . On 4.10.20 20:44, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: After a certain age you're about as

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

After a certain age you're about as compressed as you get. I've lost 2 inches since I was 20. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On October 4, 2020 11:55:14 AM Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 10/4/20 9:35 AM,

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Well, Mark, at the risk of being offensive (What? Me? Surely not.), when we met at the Edinburgh conference about 10 years ago I could not help noticing that you were somewhat more compressed than me; and, since then I have developed quite a lot of redundant code, and cannot for the life of me

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

On 10/4/20 9:35 AM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: And as to "download yourself", all I can say is that while I have tried many, many daft things in my life I have never tried to either download or upload myself . . . Heh. If I ever tried to upload myself I suppose I'd probably try to

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Graham: there are no apologies needed: I leanrt several useful things, such as, for instance that Apple issue .xip files which their own in-built apps seem unable to decompress! I had to use something called 'Keka' (which sounds suggestively like Cacka). And as to "download yourself", all I

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

This is just to thank everyone who took part in these discussions. I learned a lot - for example, I didn’t know that download managers existed. I have solved my immediate problem by brute force (I basically kept coming back to my Mac every few minutes for about half a day and so did the

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Well . . . eventually after a lot of fooling around I chopped Xcode 11.5 up into 15 * 650 MB chunks: but, frankly, that will not solve your problem. Later postings in this thread made a lot more sense. Best, Richmond. On 3.10.20 11:11, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: This is a question

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

On 10/3/20 8:09 AM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: I wonder: https://developerinsider.co/download-xcode-and-other-developer-tools-up-to-16-times-faster/ But thanks for the link. That's a very interesting website. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Hi Graham, How about using a download manager that does the chopping/zipping and unchopping for you so you can be sure that when you restart all the bits are ther. There are a coupler of free ones and some paid for http://www.flashget.com/en/download.html

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The answer, paradoxically, is to move to  a silly little village half-an-hour away from a city in Bulgaria, as I have unlimited fibre-optic internet for $5 a month. According to Ookla my download speed is about 61 Mbps, and my upload speed is 48 Mbps. I really don't know what those numbers

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Hi Jim, 5g via a home modem is supposed to save those of us without telephone poles or conduits to the home. some day. sqb -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:36 AM Jim At Consensus via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Lest

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Hey everyone. Chopping up a gigantic file into little bits to be zipped then uploaded is nuts. Chopped nuts! The A in ADSL means ASYMETRICAL - which means uneven- upload speed and is a fraction of the download speed. It would take a long time with most POTS internets to upload gigabyte files.

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Lest anyone think this is a rural issue. I live in a major metropolitan city in the US. (Seattle, Wa) And am still on DSL and can’t get cable or fiber to my house without paying to have poles placed and or conduit run underground... very expensive. Our DSL is over copper lines from 1936 whose

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

This would be a saver alternative https://blog.kulman.sk/faster-way-to-download-and-install-xcode/ It uses Aria2 https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/aria2 and a ruby script

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

OK, OK, OK: now zipping Xcode 11.5 into however many 650 MB chunks . . . On 3.10.20 14:58, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: Sorry if I said Xcode 15 - just a typo, it’s actually 11.5. But the point remains the same. As I have said before, it seems that Apple are offering files as big as

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

On 10/3/20 8:09 AM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: I wonder: https://developerinsider.co/download-xcode-and-other-developer-tools-up-to-16-times-faster/ Looks interesting, but I'd be wary of anything that does install.sh | bash without checking the source first -- Mark Wieder

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

I wonder: https://developerinsider.co/download-xcode-and-other-developer-tools-up-to-16-times-faster/ On 3.10.20 14:58, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: Sorry if I said Xcode 15 - just a typo, it’s actually 11.5. But the point remains the same. As I have said before, it seems that Apple

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Can you send me your download linbk as the .xip file is NBG; and I need a .dmg or a .pkg to work with? On 3.10.20 14:58, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Ugly stuff going on: richmond@Richmonds-Mac-mini ~ % xip -x /Volumes/X3/xc\ 115/Xcode_11.5.xip xip: signing certificate was "Development Update" (validation not attempted) On 3.10.20 16:34, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: One of these download managers may be helpful:

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

One of these download managers may be helpful: https://www.macheat.com/the-5-best-download-managers-for-mac/ Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 3, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well, your "just a typo" meant I downloaded 12.2 beta 2. So, now you'll just > have to wait

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Well, your "just a typo" meant I downloaded 12.2 beta 2. So, now you'll just have to wait while I download 11.5. Obviously you entirely missed the point of my previous message. In about 1994 I downloaded a file that took up 3 MB on a computer in the SIUC EFL computer lab, and, obviously,

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Sorry if I said Xcode 15 - just a typo, it’s actually 11.5. But the point remains the same. As I have said before, it seems that Apple are offering files as big as the Library of Babel for no logical reason. Stephen’s idea that they expect you to have a fibre connection is probably true, but

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Cripes! xCode 12.2. beta 2 takes up 10.5 GB of space . . . wonder what the bloat is: Tim Cook's unwashed laundry? On 3.10.20 11:11, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: This is a question for people having to use XCode to generate iOS apps. I find from responses on this list that I now

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

I would suppose the "trick" is to get some else to download xCode 15 for you; chop it up into a series of sensibly sized ZIP files, you can then download each one individually, then knit them all together again on your machine . . . However: I've never heard of xCode 15, and as far as I'm

Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

Hi Graham, This sounds quite futile for you on such an imperfect connection, and an unfair situation created by Apple. I guess they expect all developers to have fiber-to-the-home or live in glass corporate towers with <2 megabit connections. Such code bloat surely could be reduced greatly by

Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

This is a question for people having to use XCode to generate iOS apps. I find from responses on this list that I now need Xcode 15 to have a chance of generating for iOS 14. I would ask Apple this quesiton, but I doubt if I would get a meaningful answer: I'm working deep in the French