Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: On 07/20/2017 12:17 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Okay, replace "DP" with "most recent build" No, you can't do that. If the team really wants us to test new features in DP releases (and I'm certainly on board with that) then we need DP releases. I thought M

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Well put! I nominate you for the new Public Relations guy! Bob S > On Jul 20, 2017, at 15:52 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> >> Okay, replace "DP" with "most recent build" > > No, you can't do that. If the team really wants us to test new features in DP > releases (and I'm ce

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/20/2017 12:17 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Okay, replace "DP" with "most recent build" No, you can't do that. If the team really wants us to test new features in DP releases (and I'm certainly on board with that) then we need DP releases. The whole idea of a Release Can

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/20/2017 01:18 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I honestly don't know what the fuss is: Because RCs and DPs are different beasts. By the time you get to an RC1 release it's expected that barring any newly-introduced problems the next build will be the 'stable' release. I'v

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/20/2017 12:23 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Err - last week... 9dp8? Previously there 7 others - a bit under one a month (on average) if my recollection serves me correctly (which it might not!). Note that I explictly excepted LC9 because it's dp all the way down. Other th

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
LIKE! :-D On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If only I were sure that all our tooling would be happy with 'dv' - that > might make a good name for nightly builds. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 20 Jul 2017, at 21:18, Rich

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
If only I were sure that all our tooling would be happy with 'dv' - that might make a good name for nightly builds. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jul 2017, at 21:18, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I honestly don't know what the fuss is: > > DP or RC, who cares, after all as l

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I honestly don't know what the fuss is: DP or RC, who cares, after all as long as they are numbered reasonably sequentially we know that they are leading up to a 'Full' release (which, after all, means the start of another SDLC). I'm working with 8.1.4 at the moment and having lots of fun wit

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
In fact there have been 54 DP releases since we went open source in April 2013 - which is pretty much 1 per month on average since. So, not rare at all - quite common, one might say. Mark. P.S. If someone wants to check my math - then please do. The necessary information is easily grokable fro

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Err - last week... 9dp8? Previously there 7 others - a bit under one a month (on average) if my recollection serves me correctly (which it might not!). Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jul 2017, at 20:09, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On 07/20/2017 11:41 AM, Richard Gaskin via

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > On 07/20/2017 11:41 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > >> ...the more people we can get using DP's (in particular), >> the higher quality they will be and the faster new versions >> will appear. > > ...so when was the last time you saw a dp release? > (of anyt

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/20/2017 11:41 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: ...the more people we can get using DP's (in particular), the higher quality they will be and the faster new versions will appear. ...so when was the last time you saw a dp release? (of anything other than LC9, which is not

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar write: > I didn't DL the RC. I'm one of the lemmings that loiter at the top of > the cliff to see if any of the other lemmings are going to return. :-) Like everything else in life, the only constant in software is change, in both applications and the OSes they rely on. There is no

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I didn't DL the RC. I'm one of the lemmings that loiter at the top of the cliff to see if any of the other lemmings are going to return. :-) Bob S > On Jul 19, 2017, at 09:44 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE CANDIDATE version #2? Why

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Microsoft don't count ME or Vista. They were bug test releases that proved to be more buggy than the bugs they were claiming to repair, so that 7,8,9,10 work consecutively from 1,2,3,95 (9-5=4),98 (v4+ (9-8)=5),XP(abs(ascii-x - ascii-P)=24;2+4=6) ;) Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* www.pidig

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Why worry? When I release a new version of my Devawriter Pro I think of a number, multiply it by 3.3 recurring, subtract 7 and claim it was all the result of a mystical experience, and, so far, no one has complained. With the shining examples of Microsoft . . . as a kid said to me the other

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:44, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/19/2017 06:54 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE CANDIDATE version #2? Why are significant features being added at all to the 8.x branch? What standard (if any) do Livecode version num

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/19/2017 06:54 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE CANDIDATE version #2? Why are significant features being added at all to the 8.x branch? What standard (if any) do Livecode version numbers follow? I was wondering along the same lines. I ha

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 15:54, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Admittedly, this was perhaps a slightly riskier test then something like the handler menu; Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE CANDIDATE version #2? To supp

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
It's unlikely that there will be an 8.2.0 release unless they add in the Obj-C/Java stuff into v8. Version numbers have been described in the past. I can't find the post but, as I remember it, it is something like: v8 = Major change to Engine and IDE that would cause current projects to potentiall

What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Admittedly, this was perhaps a slightly riskier test then something like the > handler menu; I’ve been scratching my head of late with Livecode version numbers. They don’t seem to follow any rhyme or reason any longe