Fwd: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-05 Thread Pierre Sahores
Début du message réexpédié : De : Dar Scott d...@swcp.com Date : 4 mai 2012 21:13:58 HAEC À : How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Objet : Rép : paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8) Répondre à : How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-05 Thread Pierre Sahores
Clearly the way to make customers as confident as possible in how they can trust in their ISV ! Le 4 mai 2012 à 21:38, Tim Jones a écrit : On May 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote: What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product? In particular, if I put

RE: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-05 Thread Lynn Fredricks
3b - Alter your cost structure to cover the updating of old versions. Everyone pays more. That's a good point. No matter which way you look at it the user must pay for the maintenance and support of the software for the developer to stay in buisiness. By limiting the free update

paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
Here at my place the Igors, minions and henchmen are eager for the darzLab shingle to hang out and we put some products and freebees in the window. Many of these will support folks developing in LiveCode. So, this is important to me. We here on this list are small small shops and want to

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Dar- Thanks. Good points all. Stuff to think about. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product? In particular, if I put something into a storefront window and, in some fit of insanity, you bought one, what would you think is a reasonable bug-fix policy for your purchase? Or your niece bought one? Dar On May 4,

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Tim Jones
On May 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote: What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product? In particular, if I put something into a storefront window and, in some fit of insanity, you bought one, what would you think is a reasonable bug-fix policy for your

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Tim Jones
On May 4, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Thank you, Tim. This is very clear and attractive. I do have a question. If Product X is on version 8.8 and a customer is using 1.0.5 (released 11 years ago, just before 2.0.0) and finds a bug, do you fix the bug? That is, do you create

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
If I may chime in here, if there is a bug in a prior major revision, and no one called to say so, and there is no maintenance contract, then I think the end user should pay for the new major version. You may as a favor, and if you know what the problem is, do a bug fix and release it, but that

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
On May 4, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Tim Jones wrote: I do have a question. If Product X is on version 8.8 and a customer is using 1.0.5 (released 11 years ago, just before 2.0.0) and finds a bug, do you fix the bug? That is, do you create version 1.0.6? That falls WAY outside of expected

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
Hi, Bob! Would it meet the intent of what you are saying to essentially close the bugs-to-be-fixed list for a major release some period of time--say a month--after the release of the next major release? (With the caveats of may opt to do so as you say.) Or should that period be in the 3

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Tim Jones
On May 4, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Hi, Bob! Would it meet the intent of what you are saying to essentially close the bugs-to-be-fixed list for a major release some period of time--say a month--after the release of the next major release? (With the caveats of may opt to do so

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
It's my experience that if I purchase software within a time period of something like a month or two before a major release, I get comped the new version. The period of time is up to you but it's usually something like a month or two. The reason for this is that developers like to keep their

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
In this case, we offer a 60 day protection amnesty period - if the user buys a version and we ship a major upgrade within the 60 days after they purchase, they get the new version for free. Probably worth pointing out here that Mark's scheme offers this for 3 months. So theres some trade

RE: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
So, I'm eager to learn what those who buy products from each other in this community expect from others in terms of bug fixes and upgrades and paying more money. You don't know how many times Ive mulled over this question. All I can really say is that it depends on: 1) Does the type of

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
3b - Alter your cost structure to cover the updating of old versions. Everyone pays more. That's a good point. No matter which way you look at it the user must pay for the maintenance and support of the software for the developer to stay in buisiness. By limiting the free update period the