Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future

2012-07-21 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le 19 juil. 2012 à 20:23, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I think the real key to making LC insanely profitable for RR is for us, the developers, to produce really good commercial apps on a regular basis using LC, and proudly display on our splash screens: Made With Livecode! -- Pierre Sahores

Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future

2012-07-21 Thread Pierre Sahores
Probably a true worldwide diagnostic, especially applicable in France too... Le 19 juil. 2012 à 22:07, Bob Sneidar a écrit : It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that goal.

Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future

2012-07-21 Thread Rod McCall
It's not just that many people who develop for mobile have already settled on their tools, e.g. Java, Objective-C or in some cases the Lua based platforms. Which means for pure ease of use they prefer to stay where they are even if overall they may save time/money by switching to RR. While you can

Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Hey all, As you know, Ken and I have been working on some interesting libs for managing resizing of stacks. I'm particularly focussed on RevMobile and have created a toolset which allows developers to easily create resolution independent interfaces-- which smartly resize to take advantage of any

Re: just where does livecode go when the ide takes a minute or two off?

2012-07-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Friday, July 20, 2012, J. Landman Gay wrote Was the dictionary open? Maybe that old user-notes bug came back? It is uncommon for me *not* to have the dictionary open . . . -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway

Re: The future of LiveCode

2012-07-21 Thread Peter M. Brigham
I saw HyperTalk -- The Book in a bookstore [remember bookstores?] when I was saving up to get my first mac and bought it right away. I read it over one summer before I even had a computer, and when I finally got the machine I was off and running. Hypercard became my major tool from the get-go.

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Hey this looks awesome! This would certainly save a lot of time! On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Hey all, As you know, Ken and I have been working on some interesting libs for managing resizing of stacks. I'm particularly focussed on RevMobile and

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Is that Interface Builder a new lib as well or is that available someplace? SKIP On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: Hey this looks awesome! This would certainly save a lot of time! On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Chipp Walters

Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future

2012-07-21 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Oh, bob slylabs is posting again? What a pity. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652561.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Roger Eller
42 minutes of HD instruction; time well spent! I can't wait to get the stsResizeLib. ~Roger On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Check out my latest resizing library (using part of Ken's stsResizeLib). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY6r46O0cVA -- Chipp Walters CEO,

Re: The future of LiveCode

2012-07-21 Thread dunbarx
I have a handful of copies of HyperTalk... I was worried I might run out of them. But it is Goodman that is needed, not Winkler, et al. The LC dictionary does a creditable job of presenting the language. It might be greatly improved, as some have mentioned, if more and larger examples were

Stashing 3 or 4 characters into a text for db storage

2012-07-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
As I'm adjusting my data to get ready for postgreSQL instead of SQLite, I've pretty much settled on having two, rather than one, data tables. Dollar amounts and other simple things will go into one table, while text will go into another with a VACHAR type. I have various calculated properties

Re: just where does livecode go when the ide takes a minute or two off?

2012-07-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
OK, now I just got it after saving, removing from memory, and reloading . . . and it looks like the system, load spiked (red on mac) for a bit too, before it went all green (user) I can watch the spiked load pass from core to core, though. If the debugger is to be trusted (and it shouldn't have

Re: just where does livecode go when the ide takes a minute or two off?

2012-07-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/21/12 11:36 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: OK, now I just got it after saving, removing from memory, and reloading . . . and it looks like the system, load spiked (red on mac) for a bit too, before it went all green (user) Try keeping the dictionary closed for a while and see if it still

Works in a button but not in the message box

2012-07-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
OK, Here's a question: Why does this line of code work in a button but throw an error when run in the message box? set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card - 5),(the top of group toolbar - 5)) Message

Re: Works in a button but not in the message box

2012-07-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card - 5),(the top of group toolbar - 5)) try put the name of this card in the message box. It

Re: Works in a button but not in the message box

2012-07-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/21/12 11:53 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: OK, Here's a question: Why does this line of code work in a button but throw an error when run in the message box? set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card -

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Charles E Buchwald
Hi Chipp, Looks great... can't wait to use it! I have at least 3 projects in the pipeline for which it will be invaluable. May I suggest that it could be very nice to have a keyboard shortcut for refresh position, since it looks like you are clicking that button an awful lot. It looks like my

Re: Works in a button but not in the message box

2012-07-21 Thread dunbarx
I agree, the message box is often frazzled trying to keep track of everything. If you substitute card CardName|cardNumber|cardID for this card, does the problem go away? Craig Newman -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode

Re: Stashing 3 or 4 characters into a text for db storage

2012-07-21 Thread dunbarx
Not sure I understand what you want, but are you married to having a single numeric string encode your three/four char data? It would be so much easier to store them as direct strings, with something unambiguous as delimiters, maybe even a comma? I am sure I am not getting this... Craig

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Jim Lambert
Chipp, Nice tool. Very clear presentation. Thanks, Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: breakdown of my book

2012-07-21 Thread Jim Lambert
Colin, Thanks for the breakdown of your book. Glad the wait is one month less! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Stashing 3 or 4 characters into a text for db storage

2012-07-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Not sure I understand what you want, but are you married to having a single numeric string encode your three/four char data? no, just trying to be efficient--an integer has four bytes, which invites me to use it :_) It would be so

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi chipp Thanks for the video. This looks like a really helpful tool and I'm keen to get my hands on it. Do you have any ideas for handling landscape and tablet views? For tablets I think in most cases you would want a different stack so using a main stack with most of the code and a handheld

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Chipp, Watching this close, the methods in which you work in LiveCode is really inspiring. Thanks for sharing! Chipp Walters wrote [snip] Be sure to holler if you see anything which doesn't seem correct. :-) [snip] Tell me if I am wrong, but when you run the stack in the iPhone

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread Randy Hengst
Hi Klaus and All, I'm just now trying to get my head around accelerated rendering. I don't have access to Windows, so can't comment specifically on what Klaus discovered. However, I can confirm a problem with INK and accelerated rendering on LC5.5.1 when running the app on iOS simulator or

RE: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future

2012-07-21 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Oh Lynn... With these words, you deflated the argument that I was about to write: Lynn Fredricks-2 wrote For any education to be at its best, you need to have kids coming from healthy, intellectually nurturing homes and neighborhoods, and a pipeline of communication. That's a much more

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote: Also screen density on android is a headache because a high density phone could be higher res than a low density tablet. What are your thoughts on dealing with that? To be fair, try editing a stack for the new

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre- Saturday, July 21, 2012, 5:08:46 PM, you wrote: If we can figure out this then we can present a better layout. Another thing would be a good way to return the screen physical size, for example 7 inches for Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire. Can you shell to xrandr to get this? -- -Mark Wieder

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Andre- Saturday, July 21, 2012, 5:08:46 PM, you wrote: If we can figure out this then we can present a better layout. Another thing would be a good way to return the screen physical size, for example 7 inches

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Monte, Landscape should work just fine-- it's the rotation which can possibly cause problems. One way to do this is with 2 stacks. Another way to do it is with a large square stack and different cards. The library has the ability to render objects on all cards at startup, or using a

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Chipp Walters
FYI, for those interested... I don't lock scripts and anyone can use this in their commercial projects free of charge. IOW, this is a professional library which you can edit and use however you like (just don't try and sell it please!) On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Chipp Walters

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: I typically think either we're designing for Tablets or Phones-- but not for both at the same time. Most devs I've seen tend to develop 2 different apps if they need to support both. There is one good case for developing a

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Chipp Walters
FYI, New 5 min video explaining how to use the plugin: http://youtu.be/TLWD5KsstFc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Andre, I suppose if you wanted to develop both for phone and tablet, you could use 2 different stacks, each using the same altMobileResizer framework and then branch to them by editing the openStack handler on cd 1 of the main stack. There is one good case for developing a single application

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Roger Eller
Awesome! Will it work with tmControl too? ~Roger On Jul 21, 2012 8:36 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Sorry the double post-- I originally thought the OTHER post was my originating one. I've added some auto-install procedures to the plugin and it's now available for testing at:

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Andre, I suppose if you wanted to develop both for phone and tablet, you could use 2 different stacks, each using the same altMobileResizer framework and then branch to them by editing the openStack handler on cd 1 of the

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/21/12 7:49 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: I typically think either we're designing for Tablets or Phones-- but not for both at the same time. Most devs I've seen tend to develop 2 different apps if they need to support both.

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-21 Thread Chipp Walters
I don't know about tmControls. Do they respond to resizeStack and can hoe set their rect and loc? On Saturday, July 21, 2012, Roger Eller wrote: Awesome! Will it work with tmControl too? -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Jacque, This framework works pretty much like you first described. I suspect you will find it worthwhile for your projects. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/21/12 5:37 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: I've set the INK on the draggable images to clear when the image is first shown to the user… with accelerated rendering set to false, the image is black…. with accelerated rendering set to true, the image seems to be stuck in its original color... In

Re: RevMobile: Native controls

2012-07-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/21/12 8:43 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Jacque, This framework works pretty much like you first described. I suspect you will find it worthwhile for your projects. Yup, I was just looking at the scripts. It's a lot like I described. :) I see a stub in there from Ken's library that toggles

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread Randy Hengst
Hi Jacque, Thanks for the scoop. That's good to know… To be honest, since they are still listed under the blend options, I didn't think about them being discontinued. As I mentioned, clear still turns the image black (like I want) in my original app … I didn't notice the problem until I added

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread Scott Rossi
Randy: I don't have LiveCode in front of me but I'm pretty sure the docs list several of the ink limitations of acceleratedRendering there. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Randy Hengst iowahen...@mac.com wrote: Hi Jacque,

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/21/12 11:34 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I don't have LiveCode in front of me but I'm pretty sure the docs list several of the ink limitations of acceleratedRendering there. I just found it in the 5.02 release notes: Accelerated rendering comes with some restrictions: • Bitmap effects which

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/21/12 11:06 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: The Imaging Blends do work with accelerated rendering set to true… But, none of them will turn the image black… or dark gray… these blends are influenced by the background color. Is it to be expected that acceleratedRendering will disable the Structural

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread Scott Rossi
Those are them. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:01 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 7/21/12 11:34 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I don't have LiveCode in front of me but I'm pretty sure the docs list several of the ink

Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/

2012-07-21 Thread Scott Rossi
The first question to Randy would be, why do you want to change the image to black? What's the end effect you're going for? Would something like the coloroverlay graphic effect be a workable option? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:06

Word count in Unicode

2012-07-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Word counting is a snap with Latin-ISO: on mouseUp put WordCount(fld 1) end mouseUp function WordCount pData repeat for each word tWord in pData add 1 to tCount[tWord] end repeat combine tCount with cr and tab set the itemdel to tab sort lines of tCount numeric descending by