Colin-
Friday, April 12, 2013, 6:41:59 PM, you wrote:
Please do comment on the right tools to do C++ coding on Linux,
and contributing to the community version of LiveCode.
May I direct your attention to:
http://forums.runrev.com/viewforum.php?f=66
I'm currently using gcc 4.7.2 on my 64-bit
On 13/04/2013, at 9:53 AM, Cal Horner calhor...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
I can't quite put my finger on it, but it seems something is askew.
Think about it like this. You've written a big commercial software
program and are selling it successfully. It brings in money. You've
protected your
I need to pass data to and from a Rails app. I'd rather not deal with
XML or JSON if I don't have to. Are there any simpler solutions?
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Jacque-
Friday, April 12, 2013, 11:37:47 PM, you wrote:
I need to pass data to and from a Rails app. I'd rather not deal with
XML or JSON if I don't have to. Are there any simpler solutions?
A Rails app is a web frontend to a database. Do you have access to the
underlying database? If so, the
On 04/13/2013 12:12 AM, Roger Eller wrote:
A 64-bit version was listed in the kickstarter stretch goals. Maybe that
was in the back of your mind when you downloaded it.
But stretch is as stretch does, and looking at RunRev's list of goals
they will be, indeed, stretched
to provide a 64 bit
On 04/13/2013 12:34 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
OK, now I see what you mean. Don't know how feasible it would be but maybe
plugins loaded at startup wouldn't give a message, only those that are
loaded from the plugins menu.
I'm probably going to submit an enhancement request for this and a
On 04/13/2013 01:59 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Colin Holgate wrote:
Thanks. I'm not sure why I thought I was getting a 64 bit version. It
automatically gave me the one I thought I wanted.
I found these instructions somewhere:
sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get
RunRev should exert complete control over their repo and I'd be very concerned
if they didn't. That doesn't prevent someone from forking it and doing
something like making a free HyperCard clone or some other IDE. You don't have
to request changes be pulled into their repo but if you do then
Don't forget there's a dual licensed cross platform external that does
ArrayToJSON so all you need to do is worry about the array ;-)
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Software development services
mergExt - There's an external for that!
On 13/04/2013, at 4:37 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
On 04/13/2013 03:48 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Cal Horner calhor...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
I can use anything that is developed in LC OSS within my commercial LC
environment. But if there is a password protection on something I have been
using for awhile, and wish to
On 04/13/2013 08:44 AM, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 13/04/2013, at 9:53 AM, Cal Horner calhor...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
So, help me get this hypothesis correct then:
I can use anything that is developed in LC OSS within my commercial LC
environment. But if there is a password protection on something
On 04/13/2013 10:34 AM, Monte Goulding wrote:
RunRev should exert complete control over their repo and I'd be very concerned
if they didn't. That doesn't prevent someone from forking it and doing
something like making a free HyperCard clone or some other IDE. You don't have
to request changes
Never to late to appear really goofy :)
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Commercial version only
-
I know how to password a stack that is going to be rolled into a standalone,
BUT, I don't know how to password a stack that is going to stay a stack
rather than
I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the
copyright owner
to use this picture and release it in a standalone.
However, I do not have permission to pass on permission for other people
to pass on the picture; they have to revert to the copyright holder to get
s/his
Too much success ?
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I went here: https://github.com/runrev/livecode/tree/master/engine
and downloaded unicode_tables.rev
and tried to open it with Livecode and got this: file is not a stack
at the risk of sounding goofy (again), if that file is not a stack
why does it have the suffix .rev, and how can one open
Richmond
No problem here. This is the start of the first card:
For Revolution we use a simplified form of the word-breaking algorithm.
In this we treat the Unicode word breaking classes as follows:
CR = None
LF = None
Newline = None
Extend = ALetter
Format = ALetter
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On 13 Apr 2013, at 08:44, Richmond wrote:
Here's Richmond's sticky finger!
It would be perfectly possible to have passworded plugins in the plugins
folder for LC OSS without
the end-user being able to access the password, any more than they could
access the password on a protected plugin
Hi Roger et al.
We are aware of this bug and its in our quality control database-
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10828
It should be fixed in the next release.
Kind Regards,
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Support Open Source LiveCode on Kick-starter
Rather dreary.
Try these: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/GIFTS/LiveCodeOSS3D.zip
Not rocket science, and if you don't like them, make your own and
let us know :)
Richmond.
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Yes. Sorry for any inconvenience. It should be fixed now.
Kind regards,
Kevin
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On 13/04/2013 09:35, Ludovic Thébault ludovic.theba...@laposte.net
wrote:
Too much success ?
On 13/04/2013, at 5:44 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
There is also no reason why, to do this, RunRev would have to open source the
password.
It's the code behind password protection they can't open source because it
exposes all the commercial software developed on the
On 13/04/2013, at 6:01 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
I assume that I am not allowed to run off a standalone from LC OSS
containing that picture.
Right, you would need to only use stuff that's licensed with a GPL compatible
license.
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On 04/13/2013 01:15 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 13/04/2013, at 5:44 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
There is also no reason why, to do this, RunRev would have to open source the
password.
It's the code behind password protection they can't open source because it
exposes all
There's a 'Test' button in the revMenubar stack to the right of the
'Dictionary' button with
a sort of cogwheel icon.
It does not seem to do anything. A bit sneakily the button is referred
to as Deploy and contains
an extremely uninstructive script:
on mouseUp
revIDEDeployAction
pass
It will launch your stack, if you have set it up correctly, in the iOS
simulator...
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 17:05:04 +0300
From: richmondmathew...@gmail.com
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: 'Test' Button in revMenubar
There's a 'Test' button in the revMenubar stack to the right
Hello,
I have a problem with foreign characters in file names, like Cyrillic or
Japanese.
E.g. I didn't find a way to get the correct name of a folder Bilder Ж either
using answer folder… or dragDrop with dragData.
Is there a way to handle this situation?
Best regards
Thomas Fischer
On 04/13/2013 05:12 PM, John Dixon wrote:
It will launch your stack, if you have set it up correctly, in the iOS
simulator...
Aha; and that is why it is non-functional in LC OSS, as it won't work
with iOS.
Might not be a bad thing if that button were removed from the OSS version.
It does work in the OSS version, but does not show as active unless you have
set correct standalone settings from the file menu...
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 17:21:48 +0300
From: richmondmathew...@gmail.com
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: 'Test' Button in revMenubar
On
On 04/13/2013 05:28 PM, John Dixon wrote:
It does work in the OSS version, but does not show as active unless you have
set correct standalone settings from the file menu...
Yar, man, I was being a bit stupid there; had overlooked the fact that
the iOS thing wasn't going to
play ball on
Thanks very much, Neil!
On Apr 13, 2013, at 2:43 AM, n...@runrev.com wrote:
Hi Roger et al.
We are aware of this bug and its in our quality control database-
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10828
It should be fixed in the next release.
Kind Regards,
Neil Roger
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On Linux and Windows, the same button, when setup correctly, will test your
stack in the Android emulator.
~Roger
On Apr 13, 2013 10:38 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/13/2013 05:28 PM, John Dixon wrote:
It does work in the OSS version, but does not show as active unless
Hi Thomas,
If you are on Mac OS, you can use AppleScript.
This is for two bytes file name of UTF8 text.
on mouseUp
put choose file with prompt quotequotereturn into asScript
put set openFile to resultreturn after asScript
put tryreturn after asScript
put read openFile return after
On 04/13/2013 06:21 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
On Linux and Windows, the same button, when setup correctly, will test your
stack in the Android emulator.
Well that's all rather lovely; but the tooltips for that button are not.
Richmond.
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On 13/04/2013, at 9:53 AM, Cal Horner calhorner at xtra.co.nz wrote:
I can't quite put my finger on it, but it seems something is askew.
Think about it like this. You've written a big commercial software
program and are selling it successfully. It brings in money.
Yes, I had the choice of logging in and using LiveCode, or not logging in and
not using LiveCode.
On Apr 13, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
That fixed things, LiveCode installed from the downloads folder just fine.
I did do the register stage, given there was
On 04/13/2013 07:48 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
Yes, I had the choice of logging in and using LiveCode, or not logging in and
not using LiveCode.
Very droll.
From a personal point of view I don't mind logging in and sending
whatever info to RunRev as
they know all about my warts already :)
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the copyright
owner
to use this picture and release it in a standalone.
However, I do not have permission to pass on permission for other people
to pass
On 04/13/2013 08:17 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the copyright owner
to use this picture and release it in a standalone.
However, I do not have permission to pass
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
That is going to be an awful lot of fun for an awful lot of people tracking
down things such
as clip-art copyright restrictions.
But that' really no different than it is right now: you just can't
distribute
On 04/13/2013 08:21 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
That is going to be an awful lot of fun for an awful lot of people tracking
down things such
as clip-art copyright restrictions.
But that' really no different than it is
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:
https://picasaweb.google.com/**lh/photo/**g9YCDCoXTux3elqSvUr3TdMTjNZETY**
myPJy0liipFm0https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/g9YCDCoXTux3elqSvUr3TdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0
you might be not considering that truly
On 04/13/2013 08:39 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:
https://picasaweb.google.com/**lh/photo/**g9YCDCoXTux3elqSvUr3TdMTjNZETY**
myPJy0liipFm0https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/g9YCDCoXTux3elqSvUr3TdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0
A while ago I started rewriting some controls to use the new before and
after behavior handlers. The results are custom controls with no
library code in their scripts - I think it's a lot cleaner.
The link below is to the first draft. The library is a one button
palette. Just use the button
On 4/13/13 1:50 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Jacque-
Friday, April 12, 2013, 11:37:47 PM, you wrote:
I need to pass data to and from a Rails app. I'd rather not deal with
XML or JSON if I don't have to. Are there any simpler solutions?
A Rails app is a web frontend to a database. Do you have
On 4/13/13 2:37 AM, Monte Goulding wrote:
Don't forget there's a dual licensed cross platform external that
does ArrayToJSON so all you need to do is worry about the array ;-)
That would be lovely. This is the app where I'm disallowed any add-ons.
But if it comes right down to it I may push
Not sure what the point of your email is, but sound files are often mixed
with a looping track of voice speaking the company name, or protected with
white noise or a simple beat. Movie clips are watermarked with a
translucent image, same as images.
Maybe not entirely off topic, these guys are
Photoshop has a plugin and a paid service to apply invisible watermarks to
images. They've had this for over 20 years.
As most serious photographers have photoshop, I would assume it's been used
a lot over the years, even pre-internet.
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Richmond
Jacque-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 11:01:33 AM, you wrote:
Thanks. I agree, XML is to be avoided whenever possible. I'll talk to
the client about the databse.
Alternate suggestion if this isn't an off-the-shelf Rails app: can the
Rails developer supply you with a RESTful interface for what you
Good point.
And furthermore, even if an image is not watermarked, it may still be
copyrighted. I'm no lawyer, but it is my understanding that in the US there is
an implied copyright applied to anything that is not explicitly put into the
public domain--which is why I created the music
On 04/13/2013 09:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 4/13/13 2:53 AM, Richmond wrote:
I know how to password a stack that is going to be rolled into a
standalone,
BUT, I don't know how to password a stack that is going to stay a stack
rather than be rolled into a standalone.
It's simple, but we
On 04/13/2013 09:25 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Not sure what the point of your email is,
The point of my e-mail is that, I suspect, for an awful lot of people
who download LC OSS and start using it, this will be their first
experinece with Open Source Software, and they may be completely unaware
On 04/13/2013 09:29 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
Photoshop has a plugin and a paid service to apply invisible watermarks to
images. They've had this for over 20 years.
As most serious photographers have photoshop, I would assume it's been used
a lot over the years, even pre-internet.
Richmond-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 11:47:37 AM, you wrote:
so, obviously, the good folk in Edinburgh did their work vis-a-vis
stopping password
protection in LC OSS properly!
doing the same sort of thing in the commercial version did not throw up
those
error messages.
Ah! You're trying
I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the
copyright owner to use this picture and release it in a standalone.
However, I do not have permission to pass on permission for other
people to pass on the picture; they have to revert to the copyright
holder to get
On 04/13/2013 10:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Richmond-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 11:47:37 AM, you wrote:
so, obviously, the good folk in Edinburgh did their work vis-a-vis
stopping password
protection in LC OSS properly!
doing the same sort of thing in the commercial version did not throw up
Jacque,
Another JSON alternative is the late Mark Smith's JSON lib stack. I use
it in several projects and it has served quite well.
http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/82/LibJson-1-0b
However I'm using version 1.0.4b which includes these changes:
-
libJson 1.0.4b
Author: mark Smith
On 4/13/13 1:47 PM, Richmond wrote:
the same with single quotes (as per your example
The example was enclosed in double quotes, so I was just following good
literary standards. I should have put it on a separate line. LiveCode
doesn't understand single quotes, and if you were to type it
Richmond-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 11:50:39 AM, you wrote:
The point of my e-mail is that, I suspect, for an awful lot of people
who download LC OSS and start using it, this will be their first
experinece with Open Source Software,
I'm not entirely sure that's true.
and they may be
Richmond-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 12:14:47 PM, you wrote:
I only tried to set a password using LC OSS to see how the thing would
react!
Now, now... you said...
so, obviously, the good folk in Edinburgh did their work vis-a-vis
stopping password
protection in LC OSS properly!
doing the
On 4/13/13 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Setting and using protected stacks is a feature of the commercial
version of LC and is explicitly not supported in the OSS version.
By design.
That's how it's supposed to work.
You can NOT use passwords to protect stacks in the OSS version.
If it's
On 4/13/13 2:17 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
Jacque,
Another JSON alternative is the late Mark Smith's JSON lib stack. I use
it in several projects and it has served quite well.
http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/82/LibJson-1-0b
However I'm using version 1.0.4b which includes these changes:
I agree. Use short words. Always.
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:
On 4/13/13 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Setting and using protected stacks is a feature of the commercial
version of LC and is explicitly not supported in the OSS version.
By
On 4/13/13 1:30 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Jacque-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 11:01:33 AM, you wrote:
Thanks. I agree, XML is to be avoided whenever possible. I'll talk to
the client about the databse.
Alternate suggestion if this isn't an off-the-shelf Rails app: can the
Rails developer supply
Jacque-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 12:32:14 PM, you wrote:
LOL. Password no work.
Ah. It does seem like a good day to poke fun at Richmond.
As opposed the a good day to poke fun at Mark, which are only days
containing the letter a...
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And there's digital watermarking via steganography.
As a simple example, a sender might start with an innocuous image file and
adjust the color of every 100th pixel to correspond to a letter in the
alphabet, a change so subtle that someone not specifically looking for it
is unlikely to notice it.
I think I ran into this a couple of years back but don't remember what the
workaround is.
In some cases,, the last group does not return a reference to the last
group created. I'm not sure of all the circumstances that cause this but
here's my situation.
My script creates several groups, let's
On 04/13/2013 10:26 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Richmond-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 12:14:47 PM, you wrote:
I only tried to set a password using LC OSS to see how the thing would
react!
Now, now... you said...
so, obviously, the good folk in Edinburgh did their work vis-a-vis
stopping password
On 04/13/2013 10:32 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 4/13/13 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Setting and using protected stacks is a feature of the commercial
version of LC and is explicitly not supported in the OSS version.
By design.
That's how it's supposed to work.
You can NOT use passwords to
One workaround is to set the name of the templateGroup before creating a new
group. This allows you to refer to the group by a custom name after it is
created, since last may not always be last.
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design
On Apr 13, 2013, at 1:15 PM,
On 04/13/2013 10:49 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Jacque-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 12:32:14 PM, you wrote:
LOL. Password no work.
Ah. It does seem like a good day to poke fun at Richmond.
I thought round the Use-List it was 'Open Season' all year round on
Richmond :)
Richmond.
As opposed
On Apr 13, 2013, at 3:47 PM, william humphrey wrote:
I agree. Use short words. Always.
I always wondered why monosyllabic wasn't.
-- Peter
Peter M. Brigham
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that is not the same thing. The PS plugin uses another technique to
invisibly imbed the code in the photo.
Gimp and others use a graphic overlay, which degrades / cheapens / uglifies
the image.
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:
On 04/13/2013 09:29
Thanks Scott, that works great.
FWIW, I think I figured out why this happens. I believe last in this
context refers to the group with the highest layer number. When I create
the outer group, all the groups within it have to be relayered to have a
higher layer number than the outer group, qed.
Hi All…
Still interested in the easiest way to send text data between iOS apps in the
same location, on the same network (classroom).
I have seen rrsockets referenced in the past. However, wasn't that just an
example used to demonstrate the creation of externals in LC? I'm not sure if it
is
On 04/13/2013 11:43 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
that is not the same thing. The PS plugin uses another technique to
invisibly imbed the code in the photo.
Gimp and others use a graphic overlay, which degrades / cheapens / uglifies
the image.
You are quite right.
But, how, if the code is
Worth a try;
set the name of the owner of the last group to grpA
Sent from my iPhone
On 13 Apr 2013, at 21:15, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
I think I ran into this a couple of years back but don't remember what the
workaround is.
In some cases,, the last group does not return a
On 4/13/13 3:33 PM, Richmond wrote:
On 04/13/2013 10:49 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Jacque-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 12:32:14 PM, you wrote:
LOL. Password no work.
Ah. It does seem like a good day to poke fun at Richmond.
I thought round the Use-List it was 'Open Season' all year round on
yeah we love you Richmond, don't ever change!
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:
On 4/13/13 3:33 PM, Richmond wrote:
On 04/13/2013 10:49 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Jacque-
Saturday, April 13, 2013, 12:32:14 PM, you wrote:
LOL. Password no work.
Thanks John. That would have worked I think but I went with SCott's
suggestion to use the templateGroup
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:54 PM, John Craig j...@splash21.com wrote:
Worth a try;
set the name of the owner of the last group to grpA
Sent from
Hi Pete,
Here's how it can work for you. If you create your lcStackBrowser with the
commercial version of LiveCode and simply assert your copyright (e.g. include a
copyright notice) and sell it, without password protection to both commercial
and community users then everything is fine. The
Minor OSS licensing note (tell me to shut up if they get dull)...
From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013, 1:48
Subject: Re: Is it just me, again?
snipped out highly accurate stuff
Anyone else on on-rev's THOR server experiencing very long delays? cPanel
can connect somewhat after the delay, but web-pages are only returning
error messages.
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Thor has been on and off for a while - tonight is especially laggy :(
On 14/04/2013 00:06, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
Anyone else on on-rev's THOR server experiencing very long delays? cPanel
can connect somewhat after the delay, but web-pages are only returning
error messages.
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Yes, just tried mine and they are inaccessible. Over the past couple of
months I've experienced lots of outages and slow performance. If I
hadn't of bought a founders package I would have moved on. But it's a
big hassle to move everything though.
Best regards,
Marty Knapp
Knappster Solutions
Thank you Mark, that clears up a lot of questions. It sounds like I just
need to remove password protection, come up with a license agreement that
says what users can and cannot do with it, and include a copyright notice
(it's already in the About screen but maybe it needs to be in the code
too).
Check out the user note in the dictionary.
Craig Newman
-Original Message-
From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sat, Apr 13, 2013 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: The last group
Thanks John. That would have worked I think but I went
I have a stack with a number of buttons and groups on
it,all vertically aligned. The groups are initially hidden so the screen
looks like it has a series of buttons on it.
When a button is clicked, I need to move all the objects underneath down to
make room for the hidden group associated with
Ah yes, I see it - that's what Scott suggested.
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
Check out the user note in the dictionary.
Craig Newman
-Original Message-
From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com
To: How to use
Pete.
I am not understanding. Are there several objects (buttons and/or groups), but
at least one group, under each button?
And there are a bunch of these object stacks vertically aligned, so there is
a column of them?
I would have thought you would show and hide as needed, within each
I use Animation Engine to smoothly move things.
Gerry
On 14/04/2013, at 10:59 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
I need to move all the objects underneath down to
make room for the hidden group associated with the button to be displayed.
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