Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-04 Thread Dar Scott
I would love to see inventors prosper. I recognize the debates in the moral standing of IP. I know many ideas have come up and were not developed. I know how easy it is to see a good idea, maybe an invention, and think it is obvious in one's trade, and it might be. We have different ideas

Pretty impressive demo video

2013-06-04 Thread Geoff Canyon
Would be nice to have views like this in LC http://revealapp.com/ Sent from my iPad ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Pretty impressive demo video

2013-06-04 Thread René Micout
No link !!? Le 4 juin 2013 à 10:50, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com a écrit : Would be nice to have views like this in LC http://revealapp.com/ Sent from my iPad ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote: I would love to see inventors prosper. Q: In the current litigious business environment we find ourselves in, how many people does it take to write a line of code? A: Three. One programmer to write the code. One attorney to check each line of code against existing patents.

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Well, what you want to push to the server depends on the key:value pairs they expect. Here's a simple example: {name : Tom McGrath, favorite_author : Dr. Seuss} Here's an example from a mongodb student database: {_id: {oid : 1234}, student_id : 0, class_id : 49,

RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-04 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Dear User List, We're pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.0.2. The installers can be found here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_0_2/ http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/server/6_0_2/ This is a maintenance release containing the following bug fixes: 10936 - Android SDK

Re: Is Snapshot Possible with Two Monitors?

2013-06-04 Thread Ray Horsley
Interesting stuff Tom. I didn't know that about the working screenrects (plural). This may be very useful in another situation but for this one I need to get the rect from the user. Any ideas? (It's too much to import the entire monitor.) On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Thomas McGrath III

Re: Is Snapshot Possible with Two Monitors?

2013-06-04 Thread Mike Bonner
Could you overlay a blended (almost transparent) stack over the 2nd monitor with handles on the corners so the user can drag them to the area they wish to be snapshotted? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: Interesting stuff Tom. I didn't know that about the

Re: Is Snapshot Possible with Two Monitors?

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, I think the problem is that you can't take a snapshot from a secondary monitor, not that it is complicated to define the area from which Ray wants to take a snapshot. Ray, I just did a test and I was able to use the import snapshot command on Windows 8 on a secondary monitor. This is

Visible of card

2013-06-04 Thread Graham Pearson
I am trying to set the visible of a card to false and I am getting an error of execution error at line n/a (Object: can't set this property) I have 2 cards, one with buttons and the other one is an image that gets loaded from a website. On the card with the image, I have a button to return back

Re: Visible of card

2013-06-04 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Graham, Am 04.06.2013 um 18:45 schrieb Graham Pearson gspear...@gmail.com: I am trying to set the visible of a card to false and I am getting an error of execution error at line n/a (Object: can't set this property) well, that's true! CARDS do not have this property, but you could

Re: Visible of card

2013-06-04 Thread Mike Bonner
It sounds like you are not successfully returning to the card with no image, or the image is on BOTH cards. (or the image is part of a group with its backgrounbehavior set to true which has caused that group to be on both cards) If you successfully switch from a card with an image to a card

Re: Is Snapshot Possible with Two Monitors?

2013-06-04 Thread Paul Hibbert
Hi Mark, Can you explain a little more as to exactly what doesn't work on OSX please? I have an app that allows the user to choose which monitor to take a snapshot from prior to making the snapshot and it works fine with multiple monitors on Mac Win so I'm just curious if there is something I

Re: Pretty impressive demo video

2013-06-04 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:16 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: Le 4 juin 2013 à 10:50, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com a écrit : Would be nice to have views like this in LC http://revealapp.com/ Not sure I understand -- the link was in the text you quoted:

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I can now see in the output that checkboxes are bitmapped. But--and possibly part of this problem--so are field backgrounds, even when empty. Look at any of the schedules with alternating white and grey rows. These are created by setting, only for those lines, the field to opaque and the

Re: Pretty impressive demo video

2013-06-04 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi guys, Am 04.06.2013 um 19:01 schrieb Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:16 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: Le 4 juin 2013 à 10:50, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com a écrit : Would be nice to have views like this in LC http://revealapp.com/ Not sure

Re: Is Snapshot Possible with Two Monitors?

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Paul, I did some more testing. In 4.5.4 I can't import/export a snapshot from outside the screenrect (of the main screen) but this problem seems to have been fixed in 6.0.1. Maybe the other problems have been fixed too, meanwhile. So, now I wonder what exactly is Ray's problem. Which verson

Re: Is Snapshot Possible with Two Monitors?

2013-06-04 Thread Paul Hibbert
Thanks Mark, My app was built using 5.x.x so that explains the discrepancy. Paul On 2013-06-04, at 10:10 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Paul, I did some more testing. In 4.5.4 I can't import/export a snapshot from outside the screenrect (of the main screen) but this problem seems to have

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-04 Thread Jeff Reynolds
i thought most of the human interface and multimedia patient nonsense was done by the late 90s. soo many of these trolls with the cdrom boom we went thru and it was pretty funny then as the ideas had been out there on public display most of the time way before. At one point our company was

Re: randomly order a list

2013-06-04 Thread Geoff Canyon
At the risk of beating the decaying equus -- the previously suggested random() solutions should be fine for all purposes --I found an alternative that: 1. Is faster than sorting by random(9) random(9) 2. Is about as fast as sorting by random(9) 3. Is (I think) less likely

(OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Timothy Bleiler
Since there's been some discussion of software patents, I thought some of you in education might be interested in this. Take a look at these patents from a company called Knowledge Factor. I can't believe any of these were granted. The patent process is clearly badly broken.

Re: randomly order a list

2013-06-04 Thread Dar Scott
I tinkered with the same thing. I also made a random generator using md5 with the long seconds as the seed. In that, md5 is applied to previous result, not each, requiring a separate function, but each can be mixed in. I assume there is nothing weird in a text sort that will affect this. I

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-04 Thread Richmond
On 06/04/2013 06:07 PM, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: Dear User List, We're pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.0.2. The installers can be found here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_0_2/ http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/server/6_0_2/ This is a maintenance release

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Timothy Bleiler wrote: The patent process is clearly badly broken. Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers:

Pixelated fonts

2013-06-04 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Is there a function or a compile switch I am missing to provide rendering of fonts? I am using Ariel font and deploying to Windows machines. There are many machines running this new app I created where the font looks horrible! SKIP ___ use-livecode

Re: Pixelated fonts

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew Kluthe
can you link to a screenshot here? I often have problems on windows that sound similar to yours, but if you had an image of this that would help me confirm it here. My solution thus far is usually to go back in and change the font, then save it and then change it back and save it. Mine isn't so

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin ambassador@... writes: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. Actual jungle forestry is not required. Even better is the Referenced by list: US20110239315 * Feb 2, 2011 Sep 29, 2011Bonas Ulla Modular

Re: Is Snapshot Possible with Two Monitors?

2013-06-04 Thread Ray Horsley
I'm using Livecode 5.5.4 on a Mac running 10.7.5 and I get pretty weird results. If I create a new main stack, put a single button on the one and only card which issues import snapshot on mouseUp I can click it and get the crosshair cursor. But no matter where I drag open a rectangle nothing

[IMPORTANT] Survey about Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, Now that I can leave the craziness of book publishing and order processing slowly behind me, it is time to make a few more announcements. We will produce a second print of the book, but it will take a while to figure out all our options. We need to consider whether to edit the text of

LOL: Lawyers

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder
From http://www.google.com/patents/US20110239315 Modular dna-binding domains and methods of use: The article “a” and “an” are used herein to refer to one or more than one (i.e., to at least one) of the grammatical object of the article. By way of example, “an element” means one or more element.

[OT] please support App Camp for girls

2013-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, please excuse this OT posting. But i think it´s an important project: Help to launch a non-profit organization! At camp, girls learn how to brainstorm, design, and build iPhone apps, working with women developers and designers.

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
No online registration for the COMMUNITY SERVER ! not practical, probably. Like I said, this is a big ^*^* deal ! Seems to work fine so far. freedom is a wonderful thing. sqb Jolly good . . . . . . Except it still wants online registration . . .

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
what would be the difference? running protected stacks? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi Ben, when will LC Server 6.02 commercial be released? Regards, Matthias Am 04.06.2013 um 17:07 schrieb Benjamin Beaumont

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/4/13 1:40 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Timothy Bleiler wrote: The patent process is clearly badly broken. Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 So when a kid does this without being aware of the patent, can the parents be sued? Obviously

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Monte, Are you saying that array's are not supported on iOS or are you saying that mergJSON is not supported on iOS? This is needed from an iOS app to send the data to my server from the app. Tom -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com mcgra...@mac.com On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:32 PM,

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew Kluthe
mergJSON i do believe. arrays not being supported on iOS would come as kind of a shock to me. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Monte, Are you saying that array's are not supported on iOS or are you saying that mergJSON is not supported on iOS? This is

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/4/13 4:17 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Monte, Are you saying that array's are not supported on iOS or are you saying that mergJSON is not supported on iOS? This is needed from an iOS app to send the data to my server from the app. If Monte's external doesn't work out, there are several

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 7:17 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Monte, Are you saying that array's are not supported on iOS or are you saying that mergJSON is not supported on iOS? This is needed from an iOS app to send the data to my server from the app. Arrays are not yet supported

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Thanks for the info. I am trying to use Igor's library and I am trying to build my first array to convert to json. This is the info I have to send as json: {data: {appuser_details: { name:Tom_iPad, email:i...@gmail.com, device_type:2, dentist_id:73,

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, i am not sure, but i think the licensing. I thought i have to release my source when using community editions? Or is this not necessary when using LC server? If not, i can live with the community edition of LC server. Regards, Matthias Am 04.06.2013 um 22:55 schrieb stephen barncard

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
Are device_type and dentist_id meant to be strings or integers? On 05/06/2013, at 7:55 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Thanks for the info. I am trying to use Igor's library and I am trying to build my first array to convert to json. This is the info I have to send as json:

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes: For those who are interested, the icons for LC 6.0.2 are stored in the revGeneralIcons stack. Looking into this again, the icons for the Application Browser are stored on card id 200593 of the revIcons stack. They're rather dismal. You can copy the icons

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I don't know Monte, I will try and find out. But the info below is what was sent in the test using a restful client by the developer of the api. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com mcgra...@mac.com On Jun 4, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Are

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Jim Lambert
Richard wrote: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. The inventor has shortchanged himself by needlessly restricting the invention to swings hanging from trees. Write broad claims! :) Jim Lambert

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/4/13 4:55 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks for the info. I am trying to use Igor's library and I am trying to build my first array to convert to json. This is the info I have to send as json: {data: {appuser_details: { name:Tom_iPad, email:i...@gmail.com, device_type:2, dentist_id:73,

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 8:16 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I don't know Monte, I will try and find out. But the info below is what was sent in the test using a restful client by the developer of the api. strings then -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 8:57 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I got the same error at first. The web server can't understand what you're sending. You just need to create a regular LiveCode array (none of that punctuation stuff,) pass it through Igor's library, and then send a POST with whatever you

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Peter Haworth
All this talk of swings made me remember a document I was given when I first got into the computer business. You can read it herehttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByEFlYND0IhTaXdsQS1KSHAyMFk/edit?usp=sharing Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Jim Lambert

Re: randomly order a list

2013-06-04 Thread Alex Tweedly
No comments on the collision-or-not-ness, but some concerns about performance. The performance of random() random() is conveniently data-independent, but that for md5digest() is not. With nice short lines, it is indeed faster than the randomrandom version, but as the line size increases, so

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Scott Rossi
Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media companies. When it comes to rights/ownership of work (which is always the company), the contracts provided by the media companies literally use the word universe to describe the extents of where

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I dont know about the libraries he is using, but if it is based at all on the late mark smiths's the numbers in his array would translate to integers in terms of the json it spits out. I actually had to modify the output of the mark smith library to place 0's before decimal points to avoid bad

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 9:40 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Hmm, I wonder why your back end developer would be looking to use strings in the place of integers Well... they look like numbers in the sample data we have but they might not always be numbers. It's risky just assuming if an element is a

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Here is a simple stack push the button to export it to ex2.pdf in the home folder. The cash on hand field shows when the pdf is printed. I duplicated the cash checking fields to create the cow tomato fields. I unchecked 3d borders. And that appears to take care of *these* pixels. I then set

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Here is the stack On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a simple stack push the button to export it to ex2.pdf in the home folder. The cash on hand field shows when the pdf is printed. I duplicated the cash checking fields to create the cow tomato

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Good point. Handy feature. I might have to see if that can replace my modified mark smith lib in some of my projects. Is mergJSON dual licensed? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.comwrote: On 05/06/2013, at 9:40 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Hmm, I wonder

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 11:08 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Good point. Handy feature. I might have to see if that can replace my modified mark smith lib in some of my projects. Is mergJSON dual licensed? That's the intention but as there hasn't been a rush to buy (I did expect that given there's LC

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Andrew, That did it. I had the headers wrong. set the httpHeaders to Content-Type: application/json worked and not set the httpHeaders to text/json did not. It actually worked. THanks to everyone who helped me out. Tom -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com mcgra...@mac.com On Jun

Re: JSON

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Nice. glad to hear that! On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Andrew, That did it. I had the headers wrong. set the httpHeaders to Content-Type: application/json worked and not set the httpHeaders to text/json did not. It actually worked. THanks to

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media companies. When it comes to rights/ownership of work (which is always the company), the contracts provided by the media

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Walt Brown
Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
Dr. Hawkins no attachments allowed on this mail-list. They need to be referenced from elsewhere... sqb On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the stack On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a simple stack

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Walt- Tuesday, June 4, 2013, 6:53:08 PM, you wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 12:37 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. haha... the fact that there isn't a patent on time travel must mean it's never possible ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Jerry Jensen
On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 05/06/2013, at 12:37 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. haha... the fact that there isn't a patent on time travel must mean it's never possible ;-)

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-04 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 1:01 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote: On 05/06/2013, at 12:37 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. haha... the fact that there isn't a patent on time travel must mean it's never possible ;-) Or that those who travel back

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:06 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Dr. Hawkins no attachments allowed on this mail-list. They need to be referenced from elsewhere... I believe that it is a 15k limit on this list. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-04 Thread Peter W A Wood
Matthias I am no expert but I believe that you only need to release the source if you make your application available to others. Regards Peter http://LiveCode1001.blogspot.com On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:04, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, i am not sure, but i think the licensing. I thought i have