Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3

[hlowe via use-livecode]

As Apple no longer supports running 32 bit apps under iOS 11, would it be
possible to make including a 32 bit slice optional, as defaulting to
universal binaries almost doubles the size of the app bundle (my app went
from 18 MB when built with LC 8.1.7 RC-2 to 31 MB when built with LC 8.1.7
RC-3. Ideally in iOS Application Settings one could choice from : (1) Build
universal binary; (2) Build 64 bit binary only; (3) Build 32 bit binary
only.

Henry



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Re: How do I play sound files in HTML5?

[Kenji Kojima via use-livecode]

Hermann,

I started making HTML5_Stacks from this afternoon.
I have to learn basic scripts. But I cannot find HTML5 tutorials. 
I will see the HTML5-forum. 
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> On Oct 5, 2017, at 8:51 PM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> [Once again. Without typos.]
> 
> Hi Kenji,
> 
> looked at
> http://kenjikojima.com 
> I had seen that before. Your approach is *very* interesting
> and your work is *very* impressing. Please show us your future
> artwork in that field using LiveCode 9 / HTML5.
> 
> Hermann
> 
> p.s. The LiveCode/HTML5-forum may be better for discussions
> because it allows (small) attachments.
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Re: How do I play sound files in HTML5?

[hh via use-livecode]

[Once again. Without typos.]

Hi Kenji,

looked at
http://kenjikojima.com 
I had seen that before. Your approach is *very* interesting
and your work is *very* impressing. Please show us your future
artwork in that field using LiveCode 9 / HTML5.

Hermann

p.s. The LiveCode/HTML5-forum may be better for discussions
because it allows (small) attachments.
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Re: How do I play sound files in HTML5?

[hh via use-livecode]

Hi Kenji,

looked at http://kenjikojima.com, I had seen that before.
Your approach is *very* interesting and your work is *very*
impressing. Please show us your future artwork in that field
using LiveCode_9@HTML5.

Hermann

p.s. The HTML5-forum may be better for discussions because it
allows (small) attachments.


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Re: How do I play sound files in HTML5?

[Kenji Kojima via use-livecode]

Thanks. I will try. 
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> On Oct 5, 2017, at 7:16 PM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> do as "javascript" was introduced not before LC 9.0.0-dp4.
> 
> Get additional info here (=subforum HTML5):
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=155667#p155667.
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Re: How do I play sound files in HTML5?

[hh via use-livecode]

Hi,

do as "javascript" was introduced not before LC 9.0.0-dp4.

Get additional info here (=subforum HTML5):
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=155667#p155667.

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Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 10/05/2017 09:32 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:


I think probably the time has come to end this admittedly entertaining thread.


Thanks, Heather.
Time to put this one to bed.

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How do I play sound files in HTML5?

[Kenji Kojima via use-livecode]

Hi,

I can not play a sound file in HTML5. Did anybody play a sound file in HTML?

I tried the tutorial “Play sound files in HTML5”. 
http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/742506-how-do-i-play-sound-files-in-html5 


This is the url I made. 
http://kenjikojima.com/HTML5PlaySound/HTML5PlaySound.html 


I made exactly same stack and added 


  
to the  in the HTML file.  
The sound file name is "piano-melody.wav”, and put it into the same folder.

I use macOS LiveCode Indy Edition 8.1.6. 

This is a JavaScript test file. 
http://kenjikojima.com/HTML5PlaySound/jsTest.html 

It works. 

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Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

The moon is a myth. ;-)

Bob S


> On Oct 5, 2017, at 14:29 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 10/05/2017 09:26 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Roger,
>> They failed to mention LiveCode though, which was disappointing.
>> If anyone writes a software package with LiveCode so that we
>> can duplicate the laser reflector experiment, let me know! ;-)
> 
> Yeah. That would be bitchin'.
> ...long as we don't blow up the moon.
> 
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Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 10/05/2017 09:26 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Roger,

They failed to mention LiveCode though, which was disappointing.
If anyone writes a software package with LiveCode so that we
can duplicate the laser reflector experiment, let me know! ;-)


Yeah. That would be bitchin'.
...long as we don't blow up the moon.

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Re: Segmented Control Bugs?

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Brahmanathaswami,

What you see is a bug, see this report:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20509

Best,
Panos
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On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
 wrote:

> LC team: Thanks for getting the docs fixed… can we go back on point?
>
> Bug still stands
>
> The segmented still seems to be "globally enabled" and "hears" the
> hilitedChanged msg from "across the universe"
>
> -- when card is opened even though no handler is checking that property
> -- even from a top stack A when the stack with the segmentedcontrol is a
> substack B which is still open "behind"
> -- clicking on a widget on the top stack A (with hilited checked) .. the
> segmentedControl in substack B  which has a script like this
>
> on hiliteChanged
>put the hilitedItemNames of me into tName
>put tName into sPreviousSelection
>answer tName with "OK"
> #DoSomething
> end hiliteChanged
>
> fires.. and you get the answer dialog.
>
> I just wanted to see if that was an oddity I had created or if this is
> what you see also. (anybody)
>
>
> On 10/3/17, 10:18 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ali Lloyd via
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, looks like the docs for the segmented control have become mangled
> somehow... perhaps a mis-merge.
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Re: Segmented Control Bugs?

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

LC team: Thanks for getting the docs fixed… can we go back on point?

Bug still stands

The segmented still seems to be "globally enabled" and "hears" the 
hilitedChanged msg from "across the universe"

-- when card is opened even though no handler is checking that property
-- even from a top stack A when the stack with the segmentedcontrol is a 
substack B which is still open "behind"
-- clicking on a widget on the top stack A (with hilited checked) .. the 
segmentedControl in substack B  which has a script like this

on hiliteChanged
   put the hilitedItemNames of me into tName
   put tName into sPreviousSelection
   answer tName with "OK"
#DoSomething  
end hiliteChanged

fires.. and you get the answer dialog.

I just wanted to see if that was an oddity I had created or if this is what you 
see also. (anybody)
 

On 10/3/17, 10:18 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ali Lloyd via use-livecode" 
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Oh, looks like the docs for the segmented control have become mangled
somehow... perhaps a mis-merge.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hehe, this is because the issue was discovered suspiciously fast :)

Best,
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PS this issue affected only people who are on Sierra or High Sierra and
build iOS apps using xcode 9

On Oct 5, 2017 17:44, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> That was suspiciously quick.
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 10/5/17 6:35 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Dear list members,
>>
>> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3.
>>
>> Getting the Release
>> ===
>> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
>> via
>> the automatic updater.
>>
>>
>> Release Contents
>> 
>>
>> LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 contains an important change:
>>
>> Using Xcode 9 for building iOS standalones in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 now
>> creates a universal binary, i.e. the binary contains both a 32bit slice
>> and
>> a 64bit slice. This means that you can install it in older Apple devices
>> that have a 32bit chip (and thus require the app to have a 32bit slice),
>> such as iPhone 5, iPhone 5c and 4th gen iPad.
>>
>> This was not possible in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-2.
>>
>>
>> Feedback
>> 
>> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
>> http://quality.livecode.com/
>>
>>
>> Have fun!
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

That was suspiciously quick.

Richmond.

On 10/5/17 6:35 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 contains an important change:

Using Xcode 9 for building iOS standalones in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 now
creates a universal binary, i.e. the binary contains both a 32bit slice and
a 64bit slice. This means that you can install it in older Apple devices
that have a 32bit chip (and thus require the app to have a 32bit slice),
such as iPhone 5, iPhone 5c and 4th gen iPad.

This was not possible in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-2.


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


Have fun!
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Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

At this point I can be really bitchy and ask why LiveCode is so daft as 
to have top-down numbers on the stack:

sure slowed things down for my kids working with LiveCode in the Summer.

Richmond.

On 10/5/17 6:08 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I suppose, but consider that we learned graphs all through school with a bottom 
up left to right coordinate system, so that seems to me more natural. Also with 
top down systems, you have to think that left to right numbers go up, but top 
down numbers go up. So down is up. Kinda like Pirates of the Caribbean.

Bob S



On Oct 5, 2017, at 07:58 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Alejandro Tejada wrote:


In my humble opinion, after 12 years it has to be easier
to convince WC3 to change the SVG standard and adopt
Inkscape bottomleft page origin... :D

If there needs to be a bad guy here maybe the better finger-wagging would be 
toward John Warnock, for approving a Postscript spec that uses a coordinate 
system unlike anything else in the computing world, bifurcating the software 
landscape into bottom-zero and top-zero camps.

And ever since the Postscript licensing debacle which eventually prompted 
everyone else to join together to replace Postscript fonts with TrueType (not 
to mention the dismally wonky PDF format), who doesn't enjoy picking on 
Warnock? ;)

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Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

You called Jerry? 

I think probably the time has come to end this admittedly entertaining thread. 
I think I need to add "conspiracy theories" to the banned topic list for this 
list, which may I remind you all includes Politics, Religion and Cheese.

Move along please folks, lets take it back to LiveCode :)

Regards,

Heather

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> On 4 Oct 2017, at 00:55, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It would really enhance my LiveCode email group experience if I could STOP 
> reading about the fake moon landing and vaccines.
> 
> Besides, the moon is made of green CHEESE !!
> 
> .Jerry
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am well up on the argument of secrecy and that article -  falls down in
>> the first few paragraphs with the vaccines - you probably haven't heard of
>> the whistleblowers - Gus Grissom comes to mind
>> 
>> http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/link-between-vaccines-and-african-american-boys-hidden-by-cdc-says-whistleblower
>> http://avoiceforchoice.org/cdcwhistleblower/
>> 
>> But ignorance here cost lives the Moon Hoax doesn't.
>> 
>> I'll give you the short reason why it was faked then give you a few links
>> you have probably not seen and a few questions - i've seen all the
>> "evidence"  most of it is, we've seen the moon rock, or we saw the pictures
>> on TV and that's it even Mythbusters used the simplest strawman argument.
>> 
>> 
>> Here are the Astronauts in the post "landing"  press conference
>> 
>> They are so elated looking at each other to see if tghey are puttijng a
>> foot wrong - wait for
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro
>> 
>> This is a classic 52 seconds
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyjppxh2-C0
>> 
>> Armstrong is asked if he ever saw stars from the surface of the moon...
>> Collins answers" I dont remember seeing any". Collins was never on the
>> surface of the moonhe was allegedly "orbiting" the moon, it was not his
>> question to answer.
>> 
>> It was basically done because America lost face with SputnK - the Cold war
>> was going on - I don't doubt Kennedy believed they could do it when he made
>> that speech.
>> 
>> They could'nt so a "FEW" top people got together - remember this is for
>> your country - all the astronauts were military men. You farm it out to
>> many companies - so everythingh is on a need to know. You give $40 billion
>> dollars - we can't do it but we can fake it for $2 billion thank you very
>> much.
>> 
>> Most of the workers at NASAgenuinely believed it - I sure did and I wasn't
>> involved in helping out.
>> 
>> Now here is the BEST 9 minute video which shows you NASA people *admitting*
>> they don't know how they did it in 1969.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPMoIv1lxI=22s
>> 
>> 
>> I have more questions and other anomalies not in here but that's for
>> another day.
>> 
>> 
>> This video from 3:22 onwards shows that they have also faked certain
>> Shuttle exercises. Here the shuttle is "in space" with a man's face in view
>> for about 5 seconds is priceless - Gerry Anderson would be proud
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9i8tMzxIn0=1=254s=FL0uijsHtSIJz8eE6CrUECIw
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong they have sent shuttles up in Space (but never higher
>> than 400 Miles) , but some of the stuff they say they did with it are
>> models - tell me I'm wrong but watch the video first
>> 
>> 
>> If you want my take on the secrecy issue I might expand - "A man convinced
>> against his will is of the same opinion still".
>> 
>> Regards Lagi
>> 
>> 
>> p.s
>> 
>> If nothing else just listen to the 13 seconds here at 5:43
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPMoIv1lxI=22s
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3 October 2017 at 21:17, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nice article, but his example of the Snowden revelations actually proves
>>> my point.
>>> 
>>> Bob S
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 3, 2017, at 12:20 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 Bob Sneidar wrote:
 
> Well then the REAL miracle to the moon launch is how Nasa either
> deceived the thousands of people who worked on the project, and keeps
> them deceived to this day, or else were able to keep all those
> thousands of people from talking or writing a book.
 
 Arithmetically unlikely:
 
 https://phys.org/news/2016-01-equation-large-scale-
>>> conspiracies-quickly-reveal.html
 
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Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

They failed to mention LiveCode though, which was disappointing.
If anyone writes a software package with LiveCode so that we
can duplicate the laser reflector experiment, let me know! ;-)

Thanks for sharing!

Rick

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 6:31 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sitcom version of the laser reflector experiment (on "The Big Bang
> Theory").  :-)
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL1OATdBoY8
> 


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Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 07:58 , Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Alejandro Tejada wrote:
>> > In my humble opinion, after 12 years it has to be easier
>> > to convince WC3 to change the SVG standard and adopt
>> > Inkscape bottomleft page origin... :D
>>
>> If there needs to be a bad guy here maybe the better finger-wagging
>> would be toward John Warnock, for approving a Postscript spec that
>> uses a coordinate system unlike anything else in the computing world,
>> bifurcating the software landscape into bottom-zero and top-zero
>> camps.
>
> I suppose, but consider that we learned graphs all through school with
> a bottom up left to right coordinate system, so that seems to me more
> natural.

Maybe the bad guy is Euclid.

But even then one could argue that his thinking about coordinate systems 
was influenced by the natural world, where the earth has a surface and 
we measure things we make from that starting point upwards, rather than 
from an arbitrary point in the sky downwards.


In that view, maybe the bad guy is everyone who made a top-zero 
coordinate system, and Inkscape is among the few who've been doing 
things right the whole time. :)


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[ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 contains an important change:

Using Xcode 9 for building iOS standalones in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 now
creates a universal binary, i.e. the binary contains both a 32bit slice and
a 64bit slice. This means that you can install it in older Apple devices
that have a 32bit chip (and thus require the app to have a 32bit slice),
such as iPhone 5, iPhone 5c and 4th gen iPad.

This was not possible in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-2.


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
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Re: mergZXing alternative

[Ali Lloyd via use-livecode]

Regarding sample stacks, this is a good suggestion - I'm in the process of
tweaking how 'extensions' work in the IDE, but ultimately I'd like for
things like mergExt externals to show up in an externals tab of the
extension manager. I think that would be a good place to be able to launch
sample stacks from (most widgets and libraries should probably have sample
stacks too). Your suggestion of making them accessible from the dictionary
is also a good one, I will look into adding that too.

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:21 PM Andrew Bell via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Guess I didn't scroll down far enough on
> http://mergext.com/home/mergav/ to see the barcode syntax. THank you
> for the suggestion.
>
> I wentlooking on MergEXT and the various Livecode
> tutorial/lesson/stack-sharing sites for a MergAV sample stack. The
> closest I found was a thread on this forum from a year ago where
> someone else was having this same conversation (including trying to
> find the sample stack) and all the sudden they found it without saying
> where and everything was good.
>
> Finally I remembered reading somewhere that sample stacks were
> included with the extensions if you dug into the app itself (Show
> Package Contents on Mac). Found the sample stack... holy crap, MergAV
> is WAY faster and more accurate than MergZXing was with barcodes (and
> the blue line on-screen is a nice addition).
>
> It seems like these sample stacks shouldn't be hidden like treasure. I
> assumed clicking "Sample Stacks", or "Tutorials", or "Resources", or
> even "Dictionary" inside of Livecode would have a reference or entry
> for the sample stack.
>
> --Andrew Bell
>
> > There are barcode calls in mergav.  There is also a sample stack that
> > demonstrates how to use it for scanning barcodes.  All the MergAV calls
> are
> > documented in the dictionary.
> > I believe the other reason why zx was deprecated was because av is faster
> > and more accurate - at least it would appear to be for me.
> >
>
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Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I suppose, but consider that we learned graphs all through school with a bottom 
up left to right coordinate system, so that seems to me more natural. Also with 
top down systems, you have to think that left to right numbers go up, but top 
down numbers go up. So down is up. Kinda like Pirates of the Caribbean. 

Bob S


> On Oct 5, 2017, at 07:58 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Alejandro Tejada wrote:
> 
> > In my humble opinion, after 12 years it has to be easier
> > to convince WC3 to change the SVG standard and adopt
> > Inkscape bottomleft page origin... :D
> 
> If there needs to be a bad guy here maybe the better finger-wagging would be 
> toward John Warnock, for approving a Postscript spec that uses a coordinate 
> system unlike anything else in the computing world, bifurcating the software 
> landscape into bottom-zero and top-zero camps.
> 
> And ever since the Postscript licensing debacle which eventually prompted 
> everyone else to join together to replace Postscript fonts with TrueType (not 
> to mention the dismally wonky PDF format), who doesn't enjoy picking on 
> Warnock? ;)
> 
> --
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> Fourth World Systems
> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web


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Re: 60 years of the Space Age

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> Where else could we have learned about the messageMessages
> global property and messageHandled message (useful for
> logging and debugging Livecode apps?

Ideally, in the Dictionary.  There are more than a few tokens there 
flagged as "experimental", and with appropriate warnings they're 
valuable inclusions.


If we can get approval to include messageMessages, messageHandled, and 
messageNotHandled, who wants to write up those Dict entries?


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Re: 60 years of the Space Age

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

What about 34 years of Space Ace?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Ace

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> And that brings up an interesting point. Who is to say that artificial
> intelligence will be any smarter than the humans who invent it? I mean, is
> that even possible? So, looks like we are going to create a bunch of
> heartless, soulless minds that for all I can tell will be stupider than me.
> Doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings I can tell you.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2017, at 19:01 , Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > And Gmail allowed to send my previous message
> > without subject and no warnings... precisely
> > in the day (October 4) where they announce
> > that each of their products now have Artificial
> > Intelligence Algorithms incorporated... :-o
>
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Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> In my humble opinion, after 12 years it has to be easier
> to convince WC3 to change the SVG standard and adopt
> Inkscape bottomleft page origin... :D

If there needs to be a bad guy here maybe the better finger-wagging 
would be toward John Warnock, for approving a Postscript spec that uses 
a coordinate system unlike anything else in the computing world, 
bifurcating the software landscape into bottom-zero and top-zero camps.


And ever since the Postscript licensing debacle which eventually 
prompted everyone else to join together to replace Postscript fonts with 
TrueType (not to mention the dismally wonky PDF format), who doesn't 
enjoy picking on Warnock? ;)


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Re: 60 years of the Space Age

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

And that brings up an interesting point. Who is to say that artificial 
intelligence will be any smarter than the humans who invent it? I mean, is that 
even possible? So, looks like we are going to create a bunch of heartless, 
soulless minds that for all I can tell will be stupider than me. Doesn't give 
me warm fuzzy feelings I can tell you. 

Bob S


> On Oct 4, 2017, at 19:01 , Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> And Gmail allowed to send my previous message
> without subject and no warnings... precisely
> in the day (October 4) where they announce
> that each of their products now have Artificial
> Intelligence Algorithms incorporated... :-o


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Re: 60 years of the Space Age

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Nice article. And it had an ad for the HyperZoom360 lens for smartphones, where 
the ad shows someone taking a closeup photo of... you guessed it! THE MOON! I 
wonder if he can see the reflectors...

Bob S


> On Oct 4, 2017, at 17:18 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 10/04/2017 04:30 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> Actually, since we weren't able to get there, we had to give them to the 
>> aliens who were running the CIA at the time, and they dropped them off. That 
>> way we can maintain the deception pretty convincingly.
> 
> I am really sorry to have started this thread, even though Alien Laser 
> Reflectors on the Moon sounds like a great movie.
> 
> Meanwhile, let's all celebrate the 60th anniversary of the launching of 
> Sputnik I.
> 
> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-world-needs-a-terrestrial-sputnik-moment/541989
> 
> -- 
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> ahsoftw...@gmail.com


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Re: mergZXing alternative

[Andrew Bell via use-livecode]

Guess I didn't scroll down far enough on  
http://mergext.com/home/mergav/ to see the barcode syntax. THank you  
for the suggestion.


I wentlooking on MergEXT and the various Livecode  
tutorial/lesson/stack-sharing sites for a MergAV sample stack. The  
closest I found was a thread on this forum from a year ago where  
someone else was having this same conversation (including trying to  
find the sample stack) and all the sudden they found it without saying  
where and everything was good.


Finally I remembered reading somewhere that sample stacks were  
included with the extensions if you dug into the app itself (Show  
Package Contents on Mac). Found the sample stack... holy crap, MergAV  
is WAY faster and more accurate than MergZXing was with barcodes (and  
the blue line on-screen is a nice addition).


It seems like these sample stacks shouldn't be hidden like treasure. I  
assumed clicking "Sample Stacks", or "Tutorials", or "Resources", or  
even "Dictionary" inside of Livecode would have a reference or entry  
for the sample stack.


--Andrew Bell


There are barcode calls in mergav.  There is also a sample stack that
demonstrates how to use it for scanning barcodes.  All the MergAV calls are
documented in the dictionary.
I believe the other reason why zx was deprecated was because av is faster
and more accurate - at least it would appear to be for me.




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Re: Where is LiveCode

[Lagi Pittas via use-livecode]

Hi Sean

Maybe all the others but XOJO?

Lagi

On 5 October 2017 at 12:10, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Antti,
>
> I wouldn't class LiveCode along with these Low-Code apps as LC requires a
> lot more code than these offerings mentioned. A different kind of product.
> But it was a good read so thanks for posting it.
>
> regards
>
> Sean Cole
>
>
> On 5 October 2017 at 10:10, Antti Ilola via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > http://sdtimes.com/low-code-tools-leading-digital-transformation/
> >
> >
> > Antti
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Re: Where is LiveCode

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi Antti,

I wouldn't class LiveCode along with these Low-Code apps as LC requires a
lot more code than these offerings mentioned. A different kind of product.
But it was a good read so thanks for posting it.

regards

Sean Cole


On 5 October 2017 at 10:10, Antti Ilola via use-livecode <
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> http://sdtimes.com/low-code-tools-leading-digital-transformation/
>
>
> Antti
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Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

Sitcom version of the laser reflector experiment (on "The Big Bang
Theory").  :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL1OATdBoY8


On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
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> Hi Lagi,
>
> The Apollo Astronauts left “Laser Reflectors” on the moon so that
> we could very accurately measure the distance between the Earth
> and the Moon.
>
> If you get the right equipment you too can do this experiment.
> The reflectors are still there on the moon right where they left them.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_
> experiment#/media/File:ALSEP_AS14-67-9386.jpg  wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment#/media/File:ALSEP_AS14-67-9386.jpg>
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Rick
>
> P.S. Maybe Astronauts in the far future will be able to write programs on
> the fly with future LiveCode!
>
>
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Where is LiveCode

[Antti Ilola via use-livecode]

http://sdtimes.com/low-code-tools-leading-digital-transformation/


Antti
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Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

[Thierry Douez via use-livecode]

2017-10-05 1:44 GMT+02:00 Alejandro Tejada
​:

I use Xara since many, many years ago. Their technical support is excellent
> and rarely (if ever) I had a problem with their application
> except a rare bug that I found, reported and they fixed.
>

​Since a couple of years, I have a graphic designer who works with Xara
(Win10) and
I adapt his works with Affinity Designer (MacOS)​. We can exchange our SVG
jobs
quite easily, and for me, not being a graphic designer at all, I find this
process easy enough.

Regards,

Thierry

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