Re: Navigator 6.5 alpha 2 is out

[Geoff Canyon via use-livecode]

That looks like the correct file setup.

And yes -- I forgot to update the splash screen in Navigator to say alpha 2.

gc

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:30 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
wrote:

> Just checking on installation:
>
> When you unzip, we get one folder.
>
> It has be to placed manually, like this ?
>
>
> /My Livecode
>  /Plugin
>   /Navigator_Behavior
> /Navigator Commands #inside Navigator_Behaviors
> rev_b_Actions.livecodescript
>
>   Navigate.rev
>
> # if you don't get it right, the old 2.52. from LiveCode application
> folder loads.
> # About still shows 6.5. Alpha 1 Do I have the right one?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Just tried a native Mac button over the browser widget. Clicks do get received, 
but the button is not drawn over the browser. The Mac native single line field 
will layer over/under the native button fine. And as expected, if you create a 
giant button and cover everything, then it is only responsive where it is not 
covered by a native layer control.

-hh’s demo is the one I was remembering.

Thanks,
Brian
On Oct 4, 2018, 10:06 PM -0400, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> HH  that is the workaround I was going for.thanks for the
> demoproves my thesis and I feel great about going forward with that
> solution.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 9:47 PM hh via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > > Bob S. wrote:
> > > I suspect all they did was take the old browser object and wrap
> > > it in a widget that it can respond to and send messages.
> >
> > The widget is more than a simple wrapper.
> >
> > It is more comfortable and works (with the right settings) for
> > most use cases too on linux.
> >
> > TMHO, it is one of the strongest tools available in LiveCode.
> > By using JavaScript you have a FFI or, seen from the other side,
> > a wonderful GUI to JavaScript of which others dream of.
> >
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

HH  that is the workaround I was going for.thanks for the
demoproves my thesis and I feel great about going forward with that
solution.



On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 9:47 PM hh via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> > Bob S. wrote:
> > I suspect all they did was take the old browser object and wrap
> > it in a widget that it can respond to and send messages.
>
> The widget is more than a simple wrapper.
>
> It is more comfortable and works (with the right settings) for
> most use cases too on linux.
>
> TMHO, it is one of the strongest tools available in LiveCode.
> By using JavaScript you have a FFI or, seen from the other side,
> a wonderful GUI to JavaScript of which others dream of.
>
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[hh via use-livecode]

> Bob S. wrote:
> I suspect all they did was take the old browser object and wrap
> it in a widget that it can respond to and send messages.

The widget is more than a simple wrapper.

It is more comfortable and works (with the right settings) for
most use cases too on linux.

TMHO, it is one of the strongest tools available in LiveCode.
By using JavaScript you have a FFI or, seen from the other side,
a wonderful GUI to JavaScript of which others dream of.

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Re: Exiting a repeat loop

[hh via use-livecode]

BR,

you could try to "send in time" instead of a repeat loop.
say use 32 millisecs.

Then every action to stop has enough time to come in.

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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[hh via use-livecode]

See my demo here:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=152773#p152773

Overlays the widget while this plays a video.

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Navigator 6.5 alpha 2 is out

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Just checking on installation:

When you unzip, we get one folder.

It has be to placed manually, like this ?


/My Livecode
 /Plugin
  /Navigator_Behavior
/Navigator Commands #inside Navigator_Behaviors
rev_b_Actions.livecodescript

  Navigate.rev

# if you don't get it right, the old 2.52. from LiveCode application 
folder loads.
# About still shows 6.5. Alpha 1 Do I have the right one?








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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Jim Lambert via use-livecode]

> Does anyone know if it will ever be possible to place controls on
> layers above a browser widget?


I don’t know if that is in the works or when it may be available.

But you might be able to kludge it now on desktop:
1- place the control (say, a button) that you want to position within the 
browser’s rect in a separate stack;
2- set the window shape of that stack to match the shape of the button;
3- position that ‘button’ stack on top of the browser widget that is in the 
underlain stack.

I haven’t tried it but it may work.

Jim Lambert
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Native layers are drawn above all LC layers regardless of what layer the object 
is in. This would go for native buttons and other controls as well. An 
interesting experiment would be to try a native button over the browser widget.

On desktop you can layer over the browser widget using a second stack that has 
transparency set appropriately and sits in front of the browser stack.

Thanks,
Brian
On Oct 4, 2018, 5:45 PM -0400, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> I suspect all they did was take the old browser object and wrap it in a 
> widget that it can respond to and send messages. The old browser was not on a 
> layer per se. (Actually, nothing is, it's all smoke and mirrors). It would 
> write or draw if you will to a rect on the screen, and once it did that, none 
> of the "underlying" objects were accessible until the browser object was 
> cleared.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2018, at 14:07 , dunbarxx via use-livecode 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > The browser object sits atop everything else, or rather it is "drawn" over
> > everything else...
> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > OK,this even though the browser object sits in layer 1, and the overlying
> > button sits in layer 2.
> > So there is a breakdown in the layer paradigm?
> >
> > Messages are prevented from being generated if a browser widget rect
> > encloses the clickLoc in any way. LC "knows" there is a widget there, eh?
> > And reserves that rect against any and all messages.
> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > Craig
>
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[dunbarxx via use-livecode]

Bob.

Overlying, no?

And all objects are smoke and mirrors, in that they are chimeras that we
"see", "drawn" on a "screen", when in reality they are just a list of
certain transistors locked in a certain state.

I get that widgets are different. But I do not like at all that they break
fundamental rules. Who do they think they are, taking over real estate with
air rights?

Craig



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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I suspect all they did was take the old browser object and wrap it in a widget 
that it can respond to and send messages. The old browser was not on a layer 
per se. (Actually, nothing is, it's all smoke and mirrors). It would write or 
draw if you will to a rect on the screen, and once it did that, none of the 
"underlying" objects were accessible until the browser object was cleared. 

Bob S


> On Oct 4, 2018, at 14:07 , dunbarxx via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> The browser object sits atop everything else, or rather it is "drawn" over
> everything else...
> 
> Hmmm.
> 
> OK,this even though the browser object sits in layer 1, and the overlying
> button sits in layer 2. 
> So there is a breakdown in the layer paradigm?
> 
> Messages are prevented from being generated if a browser widget rect
> encloses the clickLoc in any way. LC "knows" there is a widget there, eh?
> And reserves that rect against any and all messages.
> 
> Hmmm.
> 
> Craig


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Re: Exiting a repeat loop

[kee nethery via use-livecode]

This might not work for you but, I put:

if the optionkey is down then
exit repeat
end if

So not trying to capture a specific event, just looking to see if a key is 
pressed down. What happens is that I put one of these within every repeat loop 
and when it hits one, it quickly dumps out of the repeat loop. 

Kee

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have little game where the user runs a repeat loop. And I want to let
> the user stop at any time. So what I  do set a local flag. 
> 
> Here is the simple logic
> 
> --
> 
> local sStopFlag
> 
> *on mouseup*
> 
> *repeat* sCycles times
> 
> *if* sStopFlag=1*then*
> 
> *exit* *repeat*
> 
> 
> **put "0" into sStopFlag # reinitialize in case they want to
> continue**
> 
> *end* *if*
> 
> *  **#SNIP  -- Cool stuff happens on screen*
> 
> *end mouseup*
> 
> *#and another button that sets the flag*
> 
> *# button "pause"
> *
> 
> *on mouseup*
> 
> *  put 1 into sStopFlag*
> 
> *end mouseup*
> 
> *# but on mobile, the user can't exit repeat until she clicks the
> "pause" multiple time.*
> 
> *What the secret on exit a running repeat loop?*
> 
> *Do add a little idle time?
> *
> 
> *BR
> *
> 
> *
> *
> 
> *
> *
> 
> *
> *
> 
> *
> *
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[dunbarxx via use-livecode]

The browser object sits atop everything else, or rather it is "drawn" over
everything else...

Hmmm.

OK,this even though the browser object sits in layer 1, and the overlying
button sits in layer 2. 
So there is a breakdown in the layer paradigm?

Messages are prevented from being generated if a browser widget rect
encloses the clickLoc in any way. LC "knows" there is a widget there, eh?
And reserves that rect against any and all messages.

Hmmm.

Craig



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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Stephen MacLean via use-livecode]

If I remember correctly this is supposed to be “change” at some point with 
infinite LC. 

In the mean time, you could overlay another html control over it and use it as 
a button. 

At least you used to be able to do that.  

Best,

Steve

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> oh yeah i know that right now thats the casei'm asking if anyone knows
> if thats a temporary or permanent situation.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:08 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I went through that a while back. I was trying to create a web based Kiosk
>> app, that a hot-click could cancel, so we could get back to the desktop. I
>> never got it to work. Once the browser object had control, nothing else
>> would respond.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2018, at 11:04 , Tom Glod via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Ehh.Does anyone know if it will ever be possible to place controls on
>>> layers above a browser widget?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Tom
>> 
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Re: Exiting a repeat loop

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Yes, probably need a wait with messages inside the loop. Also the reset 
probably needs to go above the exit.

Thanks,
Brian
On Oct 4, 2018, 4:14 PM -0400, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> I have little game where the user runs a repeat loop. And I want to let
> the user stop at any time. So what I do set a local flag.
>
> Here is the simple logic
>
> --
>
> local sStopFlag
>
> *on mouseup*
>
> * repeat* sCycles times
>
> * if* sStopFlag=1*then*
>
> * exit* *repeat*
>
>
> ** put "0" into sStopFlag # reinitialize in case they want to
> continue**
>
> * end* *if*
>
> * ** #SNIP -- Cool stuff happens on screen*
>
> *end mouseup*
>
> *#and another button that sets the flag*
>
> *# button "pause"
> *
>
> *on mouseup*
>
> * put 1 into sStopFlag*
>
> *end mouseup*
>
> *# but on mobile, the user can't exit repeat until she clicks the
> "pause" multiple time.*
>
> *What the secret on exit a running repeat loop?*
>
> *Do add a little idle time?
> *
>
> *BR
> *
>
> *
> *
>
> *
> *
>
> *
> *
>
> *
> *
>
>
>
>
>
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Exiting a repeat loop

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

I have little game where the user runs a repeat loop. And I want to let
the user stop at any time. So what I  do set a local flag. 

Here is the simple logic

--

local sStopFlag

*on mouseup*

*repeat* sCycles times

*if* sStopFlag=1*then*

*exit* *repeat*


**put "0" into sStopFlag # reinitialize in case they want to
continue**

*end* *if*

*  **#SNIP  -- Cool stuff happens on screen*

*end mouseup*

*#and another button that sets the flag*

*# button "pause"
*

*on mouseup*

*  put 1 into sStopFlag*

*end mouseup*

*# but on mobile, the user can't exit repeat until she clicks the
"pause" multiple time.*

*What the secret on exit a running repeat loop?*

*Do add a little idle time?
*

*BR
*

*
*

*
*

*
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RE: OT our shipping software is finally finished

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Congrats! Nice to see LC out in the field.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 6:34 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Matthias Rebbe
Subject: OT our shipping software is finally finished

Hi,

with a little proud i am happy to say that after many weeks of "blood, sweat 
and tears" i´ve finally finished our Windows software for DHL and Trans-o-flex 
shipments. This software is used by our own and replaces a 3rd party software. 
There are several reasons, why we decided to replace the software.

These are the main features:
By entering the invoice number the software fetches the corresponding shipping 
address and some other additional information like cash on delivery amount (if 
applicable) from the database of our ERP software and creates a shipping label, 
which then is printed onto a thermal printer. 

For Trans-o-Flex the shipping labels (including a 1D barcode 2of5 interleaved 
and  a qrCode) are completely built with the app. 
The qrCode is created with a slightly modified version of the Livecode qrCode 
library. The modified library allows to specify the version number the created 
qrCode should have. This is important, as the carrier Trans-o-Flex only allows 
version 14 qrCodes for their shipping labels. The original LC library selects 
the version according to the data the qrCode contains. If you are interested in 
the modified library, you´ll find it here 
  I´ve attached it to “bug” 
report 21428.

The 1D barcode is created with a 3rd party Windows SDK from Tec-It 
.
Currently the SDK is called from a .vbs script.The .vbs file is created 
dynamically. The future plan is to create a widget which calls the SDK. But due 
to my lack of knowledge about widget i had to choose the .vbs way for now.

After successful printing, the shipping data is stored into a database. At the 
end of the day, the shipping data of all parcels and pallets is exported from 
database to an XML file, which is then uploaded to the sftp server of the 
shipment carrier. The tracking number of each shipment, the according invoice 
and customer number are exported also to our web server. This allows our 
customers to query the tracking numbers by entering their invoice and customer 
number. The software allows also the export a PDF of all shipments of a day.

I´ve uploaded 3 screenshots of the app if you´re interested. Please don´t laugh 
about the user interface. The design does not match the current Windows design 
nor is it state of the art. Our users wanted it simple and “readable” and no 
small buttons or text. 

https://mr.on-rev.com/menu.png  
https://mr.on-rev.com/shipping.png 
https://mr.on-rev.com/label.png 

This is by far the most extensive app i´ve created with Livecode so far and i 
am really happy that it was finally approved by Trans-o-Flex.


Matthias



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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

The browser object sits atop everything else, or rather it is "drawn" over 
everything else. Whatever it is not drawn over is still clickable. That is how 
it was explained to me some time back. 

Bob S


> On Oct 4, 2018, at 12:00 , dunbarxx via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> "...But with a browser widget, the message is generated only if the extent of 
> the button is outside the extent of the underlying widget. 
> 
> I may not have been clear. If I click on a portion of the overlying button
> that is outside the rect of the underlying widget, then a mouseUp message is
> generated. If I click on a portion of the button that is inside the widget
> rect, no message,
> 
> Again, how do it know?
> 
> Craig


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Re: OT our shipping software is finally finished

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 10/04/2018 04:45 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:


I think that LiveCode is
the best thing under the sun to build Desktop apps. I wish people were not
so enthralled with mobile these days because Desktop stuff rocks.


Amen to that.

--
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 ahsoftw...@gmail.com

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Re: OT our shipping software is finally finished

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

> Am 04.10.2018 um 13:45 schrieb Andre Garzia  >:
> 
> I think that LiveCode is the best thing under the sun to build Desktop apps. 
> I wish people were not so enthralled with mobile these days because Desktop 
> stuff rocks.


Andre, 
i second that. The possibility to create mobile apps with LC is nice and the 
progress from the beginning of revMobile to the current state is remarkable. 
But creating Desktop apps with LC and the Livecode Server stuff is  awesome and 
by far the best and amazing thing i met in programming except mTropoplis, 
although that was buggy. But that´s an other story.


Btw.: Your fon.nu site has a dead link to your fon.nu project at Bitbucket. 
Where is the new home of the project?

Regards,

Matthias
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[dunbarxx via use-livecode]

"...But with a browser widget, the message is generated only if the extent of 
the button is outside the extent of the underlying widget. 

I may not have been clear. If I click on a portion of the overlying button
that is outside the rect of the underlying widget, then a mouseUp message is
generated. If I click on a portion of the button that is inside the widget
rect, no message,

Again, how do it know?

Craig



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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

oh yeah i know that right now thats the casei'm asking if anyone knows
if thats a temporary or permanent situation.

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:08 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I went through that a while back. I was trying to create a web based Kiosk
> app, that a hot-click could cancel, so we could get back to the desktop. I
> never got it to work. Once the browser object had control, nothing else
> would respond.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2018, at 11:04 , Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ehh.Does anyone know if it will ever be possible to place controls on
> > layers above a browser widget?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
>
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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[dunbarxx via use-livecode]

Hi.

Odd, I tried this with other widgets overlain by a button, and a mouseUp
message was generated without issue anywhere I clicked on the button.

But with a browser widget, the message is generated only if the extent of
the button is outside the extent of the underlying widget. 

How do it know?

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Re: Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I went through that a while back. I was trying to create a web based Kiosk app, 
that a hot-click could cancel, so we could get back to the desktop. I never got 
it to work. Once the browser object had control, nothing else would respond. 

Bob S


> On Oct 4, 2018, at 11:04 , Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ehh.Does anyone know if it will ever be possible to place controls on
> layers above a browser widget?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom


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Will it ever be possible place controls over browser widget?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Hi,

Ehh.Does anyone know if it will ever be possible to place controls on
layers above a browser widget?

Thanks,

Tom
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Window and screen management: windowBoundingRect

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

I am writing some code to intelligently deal with a multi-window
application for people with multiple monitors. These are things like
remembering the last window position when quitting and if when starting
up that position was on a secondary or more monitor, positioning the
window to the main monitor.

However, I am now trying to deal with window minimization or
maximization. The windowBoundingRect global property controls the bounds
of a window when maximized, but this (in LC9.0.1) is a singular
property. Shouldn't there be a version called the windowBoundingRect[s]
that lets you set the bounds on monitors other than the default or is it
just assumed that on all monitors other than the default that the
windowBoundingRect equals the screenRect for that monitor?

Has anyone out there done a library for window management on multiple
monitor setups?


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Re: Thanks to Hermann Hoch...

[Lagi Pittas via use-livecode]

I'll second that emotion  they're Smokin (pun intended)

Thanks Hermann.

Lagi

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 15:23, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
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> Though I haven't used them yet, I agree...its great for the community.
> Thanks Hermann
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:35 AM Brian Milby via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Couldn’t agree more. Lots of useful stacks and widgets that push the
> > envelope of what is possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> > On Oct 3, 2018, 6:43 AM -0400, Michael Kristensen via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>, wrote:
> > > …for all the wonderful and wellcraftet stacks you share so generously
> > with us!
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Modern Mobile Progress Bar

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Is there any way to get color to show on a native scrollbar (used as a
progress bar for a download) on mobile? It show up with background fill
black with barely visible thumbnail blue going across, changing the
color in IDE has no effect on mobile.

I think there is a mobile control, but as far I can  tell , it always in
relation to scrolling some other object, not a "standalone" progress bar.

The native scroll bar it pretty "ugly" and I would like the make the UI
bit close to what people are used to seeing.

[Side note: My goodness! I am using a function from the days of Scott
Raney, found in the first MetaCard IDE, 20 years ago... and it still
works Ha! How's that for xTalk viability! ]

But, how I would upgrade to modern UI?

This was always so simple:

*command*showProgress pURL, pStatus

*-- this is the status callback message which gets called regularly
during the download*

*-- pStatus will show some initialisation messages, then*

*-- loading,bytesReceived,bytesTotal*

*-- using a graphical progress bar instead*

*-- ths first time this is called, find the total number of bytes that
are to be downloaded*

*-- use this info to set the span of the progress bar*

*-- wait until the download info is being received*

*if* thenumberofitemsinpStatus = 3*then*

*if* thevisibleofscrollbar"Progressbar"= false*then*

*put*thelastitemofpStatus intotTotalBytes

*set*thestartValueofscrollbar"Progressbar"to0

*set*theendValueofscrollbar"Progressbar"totTotalBytes

*show*scrollbar"Progressbar"

*end* *if*

*set*thethumbPositionofscrollbar"Progressbar"toitem2ofpStatus

*end* *if*

*-- better text information*

*if* thenumberofitemsinpStatus = 3*then*

*put*item2ofpStatus intotBytesReceived

*put*item3ofpStatus intotTotalBytes

*-- this gives very large numbers that are not easily read, so convert
to KB*

*put*tBytesReceived div1024intotKBreceived

*put*tTotalBytes div1024intotTotalKB

*-- calculate speed*

*put*theseconds- sDownloadStart intotElapsedSeconds

*if* tElapsedSeconds = 0*then*

*-- make sure we don't divide by zero at the start*

*put*"unknown"intotKBperSecond

*else*

*put*round(tKBreceived / tElapsedSeconds, 1) intotKBperSecond

*end* *if*

*put*"Received (KB): "& tab& tKBreceived &cr& "Of Total (KB: "& tab&
tTotalKB & cr&\

"At KB/sec: "& tab& tKBperSecond intofld"ProgressField"

*end* *if*

*end*showProgress


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Re: Writing a UTF8 text file to server -- solved

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Just for posterity...

Tried many combinations of various commands opening the file 
as a binfile instead of a text file solved my problem


Changed:
open file vfile for utf8 text update

To:
open file vfile for binary update

At which point the same command:
write vdata to file vfile at end

properly saved the data as utf8/kanji to the file on the server.

All's well that ends well.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan



On 2018.10.04 15:48, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Scott,

Added info; I have  at the top of the web page source.

Then, I only found outputTextEncoding in the dictionary. It said
it only works with CGI (server), put when I put:
set the outputTextEncoding to "utf-8"

into the script before dealing with the $_POST array, it broke
the Kanji on the web page itself.

Googling turned up info on the textEncode function, but this
script still results with a saved file of gibberish and not Kanji.

Changed the script to this:
put $_POST[firstname]  --(Results in Kanji name to web page)
put "data.txt" into vfile
open file vfile for utf8 text update
put textEncode($_POST[firstname], "UTF-8") into vdata
write vdata to file vfile at end
close file vfile

but still get a file with broken kanji.

Any hints?

Tim




On 2018/10/04 15:08, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:

Hello Tim,

Did you look at the textEncode function?

—
Scott Morrow


On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode
 wrote:

I am using Livecode Server on Livecode's hosting plan.

Taking my first stab at a web response form. I am getting the
data from $_POST fine, and when I simply do something like:
put $_POST[firstname]

the UTF8/Kanji word shows up fine in the webpage. But I am
unable to save the data to a file on the server encoded in
UTF8 (simply trying to collect the submitted data).

put "data.txt" into vfile
open file vfile for utf8 text update
put $_POST[firstname] & comma & $_POST[lastname] & comma &
$_POST[country] &  the time & return into vdata
write vdata to file vfile at end
close file vfile

Data is getting saved, but in gibberish, not in kanji/utf8.

Anyone see what I'm doing wrong?

TIA

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan


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Re: [off] Do me a solid

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Friends,

I have been silent for a while but I am now getting more active here again.
I've recently moved to London so if people want to go to a Pub or organize
an LC meetup, I am game.

Now back to business, I am an active member of the decentralized web
movement and more visible through my efforts on the Secure Scuttlebutt[1]
community and the Mozilla experiment called Libdweb[2].

I was at the Decentralized Web Summit this year where Tim Berners-Lee was
present promoting Solid. You can see all recorded sessions from the
event[3] or jump straight to his video about solid[4].

BELOW YOU WILL READ SOME STRONG PERSONAL OPINIONS:

In my humble opinion the dweb and dapp movement can be categorized into two
large camps and most solutions/communities tend to fall under one or
another, even though some span both camps. One camp is the "solution with
economic incentives" and in this category we place all the cryptocurrency
backed stuff, all those little blockchains with tokens, ICOs, DAGs,
cryptolattice structure marvels that no-one uses but everyone hopes to get
rich with. This is where the money is and most of the stuff is vaporware
made to promote ICOs, foster speculation and make someone (who is usually
not you) rich. Still, there is good stuff in here, bitcoin is pretty nice
as a "currency", dogecoin is fun to play with but no one will get rich,
ethereum has a nice momentum.

The other much less visible camp, which is the one I am mostly interested
in, is the "solution without economic incentive" where people are building
stuff that not necessarily relies on blockchains or tokens or any form of
currency. It is usually peer-to-peer stuff that, by design, prevents
censorship, tracking and in some cases makes really hard to monetize
anything. In this camp you'll find Secure Scuttlebutt, IPFS, Dat, Beaker
Browser (which is DAT).

Some solutions span both camps such as the offerings by protocol labs,
where IPFS, libp2p, etc fall into the second camp but their filecoin fall
into the first one, and that is OK. Or holochain which provides a platform
for you to build your on decentralized stuff even with coins and tokens.

During one of the online conferences we had for LiveCode Global this year,
I presented a TOY version of a Scuttlebutt-like protocol that allowed
people to build decentralized desktop apps with LiveCode. If the HQ accept,
they could share this video with all the community, it gives a nice little
toy intro to the concepts.

Anyway, there is a ton of stuff happening in this space, solid is not the
only game in town.

Best
Andre

[1]: https://scuttlebutt.nz
[2]: https://github.com/mozilla/libdweb
[3]: https://decentralizedweb.net/videos/
[4]:
https://decentralizedweb.net/videos/talk-solid-empowering-people-through-choice/

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:24 AM Kay C Lan via use-livecode <
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> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:11 AM Mark Wieder via use-livecode
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> > 
> >
> > Is this the same Tim Berners-Lee who, in his capacity as Director of the
> > World Wide Web Consortium, a year ago overruled all objections and added
> > standardized DRM to the open web standards? Sided with trillions of
> > dollars worth of corporate muscle against accessibility groups, security
> > experts, browser startups, public interest groups, human rights groups,
> > archivists, research institutions, etc?
> >
> > Pass.
> Unfortunately I think the Free Software Foundation backed the wrong
> horse.  Whilst it's mission to promote computer user freedom is
> commendable, doing it via OSS in a world where the Internet is driven
> by trillions of dollars, web search engines are driven by billions of
> dollars and both of these are influenced by media giants and
> governments with political agendas almost make the fact that you have
> OSS on your device irrelevant.   I think individual freedom, let alone
> computer user freedom, would better be served if, like linux, there
> were a couple of versions of the WWW, some of which were truly Open
> Source.  Although I use DuckDuckGo in deference to Google, I think
> we'd all be better off with a few viable OS Web Search Engines - the
> current ones are too small.
>
> I think in the future we'll look back and realise that having a purely
> open Search Engine and purely open Internet will be far more important
> to us than whether the code of the app we are using, to take advantage
> of what is available across the internet, is open or closed.
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Re: OT our shipping software is finally finished

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Matthias,

Congratulations on shipping a shipping software! I think that LiveCode is
the best thing under the sun to build Desktop apps. I wish people were not
so enthralled with mobile these days because Desktop stuff rocks.

Best
andre

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 10:30 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> The complete project started in February this year.
> I´ve started with our DHL module in February and finished that at the end
> of March. The DHL part was easier, as the app does not have to create the
> label. The app fetches the shipping data the same way as the Trans-o-Flex
> module does, but then writes the shipping information as XML file into a
> folder which is monitored by a DHL polling software. This polling software
> is provided by DHL. The DHL polling software then transmits the data to DHL
> and if the shipment data is correct, then the software receives the
> shipping label from DHL as PDF and prints that out. At the end of the day
> the DHL polling software fetches the shipping data for all parcels and
> pallets from DHL and stores that information in our database. (We need that
> data for tracking and to export it to our webserver.
>
> I started with the Trans-o-Flex module early April. It began with studying
> the tech papers of Trans-o-Flex, fetching needed information and evaluating
> the needs of my colleagues. For Trans-o-Flex we used a separate program
> and  I wanted to make the change from the old to the new app as easy as
> possible for them . Programming started late  April. I worked on that app
> about 5 hours a day, sometimes more somtimes less. First shipments were
> done with the new app from the 18th of September. The complete switch from
> the old Trans-o-Flex app to the new app was around the 25th of September.
> Since the 18th we shipped about 739 Trans-o-Flex parcels/pallets with our
> new app.
>
> So all in all the complete app took about 8 month in research and
> development.
> Currently i am reviewing my comments in the scripts to make them more
> “understandable” for others in case this is needed in the future.
>
>
> > Am 04.10.2018 um 02:11 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > All the best and tons of sales.
> >
> Unfortunately it´s an in-house tool and there are no plans to sell it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:07 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/03/2018 03:33 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is by far the most extensive app i´ve created with Livecode so far
> >> and i am really happy that it was finally approved by Trans-o-Flex.
> >>
> >> Congratulations. I know this has been a long rocky road.
> >>
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> >>  ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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Re: Script Editor Unusable on Windows

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Clarence,

I wish I could but I am afraid of adding plugins and this becoming slow as
molasses. :-(

I just lost a little button on a card because I clicked another control,
pressed delete, but there is a lag in the IDE so it missed me switching
controls and deleted the wrong one. If I program really slowly (and I am a
slow coder already) then it mostly works...

best
andre

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:19 PM Clarence Martin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> You may want to look at The LCStackBrowser Plugin. It has the ability to
> save stacks automatically. I have used this for years now. There were some
> problems recently when the LiveCode version went from 7 to 8 but the author
> has fixed that.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Clarence Martin
> Email: chi...@themartinz.com
> Cell: 626 696-5561
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
> Bob
> Sneidar via use-livecode
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:50 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: Bob Sneidar 
> Subject: Re: Script Editor Unusable on Windows
>
> Early on when LC was experiencing a CTD issue (this was around v6) I wrote
> code into my stacks that saved every time I closed a stack. I also save
> code
> incredibly frequently, sometimes every few line edits. I maintain local and
> offsite backups of what I do so I can revert, and I have a versioning local
> backup running automatically so I can recover a version earlier in the day,
> in case I completely bork my code, then save it.
>
> Still, this is a pain and needs to be sussed out, but as you say, producing
> a reliable recipe is nearly impossible, because by the time you notice it,
> it's about to go nuclear.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Oct 3, 2018, at 05:19 , Andre Garzia via use-livecode
>  wrote:
> >
> > Dragging controls from the palettes, launching the inspectors.
> > Everything hangs all the time. Just today, I lost an hour of work
> > because LC crashed while I was accepting an script. Poof, the IDE went
> > unresponsive and then I had to close it. This happens all the time.
>
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Re: OT our shipping software is finally finished

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

The complete project started in February this year.
I´ve started with our DHL module in February and finished that at the end of 
March. The DHL part was easier, as the app does not have to create the label. 
The app fetches the shipping data the same way as the Trans-o-Flex module does, 
but then writes the shipping information as XML file into a folder which is 
monitored by a DHL polling software. This polling software is provided by DHL. 
The DHL polling software then transmits the data to DHL and if the shipment 
data is correct, then the software receives the shipping label from DHL as PDF 
and prints that out. At the end of the day the DHL polling software fetches the 
shipping data for all parcels and pallets from DHL and stores that information 
in our database. (We need that data for tracking and to export it to our 
webserver.

I started with the Trans-o-Flex module early April. It began with studying the 
tech papers of Trans-o-Flex, fetching needed information and evaluating the 
needs of my colleagues. For Trans-o-Flex we used a separate program and  I 
wanted to make the change from the old to the new app as easy as possible for 
them . Programming started late  April. I worked on that app about 5 hours a 
day, sometimes more somtimes less. First shipments were done with the new app 
from the 18th of September. The complete switch from the old Trans-o-Flex app 
to the new app was around the 25th of September. Since the 18th we shipped 
about 739 Trans-o-Flex parcels/pallets with our new app.

So all in all the complete app took about 8 month in research and development. 
Currently i am reviewing my comments in the scripts to make them more 
“understandable” for others in case this is needed in the future. 


> Am 04.10.2018 um 02:11 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> All the best and tons of sales.
> 
Unfortunately it´s an in-house tool and there are no plans to sell it.

Regards,

Matthias


> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:07 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/03/2018 03:33 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>>> This is by far the most extensive app i´ve created with Livecode so far
>> and i am really happy that it was finally approved by Trans-o-Flex.
>> 
>> Congratulations. I know this has been a long rocky road.
>> 
>> --
>>  Mark Wieder
>>  ahsoftw...@gmail.com
>> 
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