Not entirely.
I can put for what I regard as a positive suggestion. Whether it is doable
and makes any business sense is a big question.
Stop all continuing development for a fixed period of time (6 months, say)
and attempt to sort out as many of the outstanding bugs as possible.
Have a
On 10/3/19 7:51 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
Hm. The search stops at 1.
Try narrowing it by date. For instance, an impressive 130 bugs resolved
since the release of LC 9.0.5 on 16 May.
Hm. The search stops at 1.
"This list is too long for The LiveCode Quality Control Center's little
mind; the Next/Prev/First/Last buttons won't appear on individual bugs."
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On October 3,
You speak for me too. The only people who could say such things about LC
are those who don't know them. Anyone who does know them knows that
everything Richmond said is false. "Ill-informed" is putting it mildly.
LC are very open to constructive criticism, but rants just make the speaker
a
Hi Heather, thanks for the update.
Richmond, that was way over the top dude. I respect your right to say your
peace, and not much of it rings wholly true to me.
I pretty much just trust the team, last I talked to Kevin, he seemed sure
of the direction that they are taking..and for nowesp
Hi Heather,
I can only speak for myself, however I think others might be with me on this,
I think you guys ROCK! I understand the complexities involved in creating
incredibly beautiful software that makes it look very easy to make other
software. You make it easy for me to create easy to
> Sean C. wrote;
> Now let me get back to fixing HTML5 for you!!
Wow ... Where is the piece I missed?
@Heather
Every (software) kingdom needs a court jester.
They have special rights and nobody should be insulted by them.
(And sometimes they say, just as young children, the truth.)
I'm curious how a standalone performs. I have a standalone that saves stacks as
properties are changes, and I am finding that while Windows direct host is
slower than a MacOS for a lot of things, Paralles (using Shared Profile I
admit) is several times slower, especially when saving the stack.
On 9/28/19 8:08 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode wrote:
Once the code is functional, I refactored it to make it more in line with the
way the destination code is typically structured.
That’s what I did. Tedious but straightforward and successful.
LOL. "And there we go, we've created
+1
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:35 , R.H. via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Some of the rants are leading nowhere.
>
> I do not think that anybody writing as Richmond did has ever been involved
> in keeping up a company with such little assumed revenue to pay from for
> salaries. And I would love to
Heather
Humbly, I think that would be a bit over the top to ban Richmond. I found it
quite entertaining and somewhat truthful. I’m in quite a pleasant and rational
state of mind at the moment so can look objectively at this.
Having stared down the naked barrel of the gun in the hands of LC
Possibly the server of your webpage is very slow.
I need here at most 9-10 seconds to load a standalone
the first time from http://hyperhh.de/html5 .
You could load one of the latest (9.5.0 created) there
and compare.
Or you have conflict with SOP (same origin policy).
Is your standalone trying
Hi Alain
I’m sorry to hear you are having this issue. Do you have access to the server
settings to enable gzip compression. When enabled the server will compress the
js files substantially so that the browser does not have to download so much
and décompresses it in the client (which is much
LC team,
I too so appreciate all the work the LC team has done over the years and
continues to do. I’ve used probably a dozen different commercial coding systems
over the decades and LC thru all it’s incarnations back to good old MetaCard
with Scott was the one that provided the needed
For my job I need to frequently test things in Windows 10, and I have been
doing that using Parallels. It works really well, but sometimes I need to do
hardware tests, and so I had Bootcamp added as well.
I was curious how well it performs, and so downloaded a benchmark test program.
Users who
Richmond - What you wrote is not just "unpleasant". It is rude, ill informed,
offensive and disrespectful to LiveCode, our company, our amazingly dedicated
employees, and the members of this great list. If I don't see an apology in the
morning you will make history as the only person I have
On 10/3/19 12:54 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
And I did preface my rant with it's "Mr Mouth" ' so anyone who wanted
could either ignore or disregard what I wrote.
Ignore a Richmond Rant? You gotta be kidding. I live for these things.
--
Mark Wieder
ahsoftw...@gmail.com
Hi Trevor
I understand totally but when something was promised after crowdfunding to be
ready in 3 months and three and a half years later NOTHING that is unforgivable
... If one person at Livecode spent 1 hour a day only without weekends over 3
and a half years that’s roughly 21 weeks at 5
Unpleasant rants . . .
Indeed: what I write was unpleasant.
There is, sometimes, a time and a place for unpleasantness, or, as some
would have it, 'speaking directly.'
But, as many people have said softer, more tactful things for a long
time to largely no avail, it might just
be that an
Some of the rants are leading nowhere.
I do not think that anybody writing as Richmond did has ever been involved
in keeping up a company with such little assumed revenue to pay from for
salaries. And I would love to see such guys running a company and make
money. They will all fail. But to make
yes you can use virtualbox or whatever but it will be slower, running an
OS in an OS, or:
You install bootcamp if you only need Win10: read this
https://support.apple.com/nl-nl/HT201468 it's in dutch but you can find
the English version yourself i think
then bootcamp will install all needed
I have used Parallels, and am now also using Virtual Box on my Mac. I use
No-Machine to connect to hardware Windows test platforms, and plan to use it
for other platforms (Linux, iOS, Android, Raspberry Pi). I use MiniWoL to wake
one machine and plan add Wake-on-LAN to another Windows machine.
Greeting!
For mobile, it has become VERY common to scroll down past the top of a list to
refresh the data (usually a loading wheel appears). Is there a method to
accomplish this with the DataGrid?
-Dan
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Brian, thanks for your quick info.
Good to hear they do accept contributions and merge them in the commercial
versions.
On 03/10/2019, 19:55, "use-livecode on behalf of Brian Milby via use-livecode"
wrote:
Part of the agreement that you make when you submit a PR is that you assign
Try Vmware Fusion - you can run windows without needing a dual boot - you
just need a windows 10 licence.
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 14:04, Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would advise this hardware:
>
> - LGA 1152 motherboard (with PCIe ports)
> -
Hi,
I would advise this hardware:
- LGA 1152 motherboard (with PCIe ports)
- Intel i5 processor
- 8GB RAM or more
- 256GB SSD or better 256GB M.2 NVMe if supported by your Mac
OR use VM's (which I am using on a 32GB Mac machine):
- Expand your current RAM in your Mac to at least 16GB or more
Do you have a link for info on how to do that?
I will be wanting to test on Windows too and
was thinking I needed to use a emulator like
Parallels.
JB
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 10:54 AM, JJS via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Why don't you create a dual boot of your mac?
>
> Apple itself supports it
Why don't you create a dual boot of your mac?
Apple itself supports it and delivers the drivers to do so.
You only need a win10 license
Op 3-10-2019 om 19:48 schreef Martin Koob via use-livecode:
Hi
I need to buy a new desktop PC to be used for LiveCode development including
using the new
Part of the agreement that you make when you submit a PR is that you assign
rights for the fixes to LC so the code can be integrated into the commercial
versions. You can’t mix the code on GitHub with the commercial versions
yourself though.
I have submitted stuff that is now in released
Aha: it's "Mr Mouth", late to the party, but well furnished with virtual
whisky and raxin up tae an unco raj state.
And, much against my inner inclinations I will put the following in
English (although I have always viewed
English as a cold, sterile language, while Scots speaks directly from
Hi
I need to buy a new desktop PC to be used for LiveCode development including
using the new camera control and the player as I am working on a cross platform
application for Mac and Windows.
I have been developing the application on on a Mac to this point but need to
have the PC for
Does anyone know if you fork the Community Edition of LiveCode, solve bugs
(e.g. IDE-related, plugins etc.), compile the LC version again and integrate
it to the Indy version?
Or is this just not possible because of the closed source of the engine?
On 03/10/2019, 18:16, "use-livecode on
Yes, most certainly agreed
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> For my part I love what you guys do. As I've mentioned before, Livecode has
> upped my value to my employer, as they see that I am capable of more than
> what they hider me to do. It may even
Amen Bob!
Phil Davis
On 10/3/19 9:31 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
For my part I love what you guys do. As I've mentioned before, Livecode has
upped my value to my employer, as they see that I am capable of more than what
they hider me to do. It may even have been responsible for a
For my part I love what you guys do. As I've mentioned before, Livecode has
upped my value to my employer, as they see that I am capable of more than what
they hider me to do. It may even have been responsible for a couple raises in
the recent past.
Also as I have mentioned before, I have
Dear List Folks,
I'd like to reassure you, the team is anything but idle, and the fruits of
their labours are coming your way. I don't wish to steal Pano's thunder, but
you should look for an announcement on 9.0.5 tomorrow (all being well with the
build, which is currently undergoing final
On 10/3/19 8:47 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:
All true. But will the idle state of LC ever change again?
I believe that it will if LiveCode FM gets traction. I may be wrong.
Additionally, the patch that Mark Waddingham just implemented related to
the frozen pool (I am the
I agree with Trevor here, but I'd like to interject a bit. I have 2 reasons I
declined to use the Filemaker model many years ago. One was that I could not
code procedurally. Coding was done using graphic objects whose properties you
had to open and edit, then save. Easy I suppose for a
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 2:01 PM hh via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > Trevor D. wrote:
> > If that is the case and they can build that revenue source
> > then it should ultimately be a good thing for those of us
> > who don't use LiveCode FM. It is unfortunate that LC has
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:56 AM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> I'm reading between the
> lines but Trevor probably knows how well it's doing - but the rest of use
> are being treated like mushrooms.
>
Hi Lagi,
I do not have any additional information
How come when I test my app in the developement test using my browser,
everything is ok. and
when I test the same app as standalone in my web site, nothing appear after 3
or 4 minutes?
My standalone-commercial-9.0.2.js is 28.5 Mo. I guess that is the reason...
Alain Vezina
logilangue.com
The code looks like Pascal. Variable typing, declaration and scoping. Not
english like. Perhaps you missed the whole point of Livecode, and it's
predecessors Hypercard, Supercard and Metacard. Livecode is the alternative to
environments like Lazarus, great for someone with the time (and
Wow. I have the opposite experience. I think that t he LC Dev team is more
responsive than any other I have ever experienced. I've been in IT for a really
long time, and have dealt with a number of apps and dev environments. I've seen
more feature developments in LC than all the rest combined.
I first bought livecode back in 2010, they had lots of hype and promises at
the time, most of the promises did not really start to arrive until the
open source kickstarter (such as version control).
I have tried to make sense of the code base, in order to add support for a
few things, such as
Lagi, taking Sherlock home is a bad idea. I took him home once. He started
doing experiments on top of the kitchen table. The last straw was when he shot
holes in the wall because he was bored. I said, "HOLMES! That's it! Get out
now!"
Bob S
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 02:55 , Lagi Pittas via
One of my users says that a previous version of our app, as long is it remained
open, continued to play audio, even when they went to another app..
"While I am listening audio’s in the Siva Siva app, new bug: Automatically
stopping audio while screen off or moved one app to another app Or
I'm sure that LC HQ would have loved to solely preside over the language
and a flourishing opensource and enterprise community that kept the lights
on . Unfortunately that just hasn't happened since the kickstarter
campaign. Without the LCFM lifeline I think they may have ceased to exist
in the
poor comms don't make this better. one good thing about LCG was that we
had bi-monthly updates. this year, no comms.
i am less hopeful that the influx of new revenue will matter in the medium
term, because most of the effort will be on the requests that are tied to
the new revenue.
every time
Hi Tom,
It doesn't take a Sherlock home to work out that if (I hope when!) LCFM
works out that the company will have
an influx of "new blood" with the attendant large increase in yearly
subscriptions.
My very short post (cut down from my usual rants) was lobbing a tiny hand
grenade in to arena,
Actually the exec-tests folder should probably be removed - that was our
initial attempt at adding a test for each syntax variant while we were
doing the refactoring project. They were translated at some point into the
new test format at
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