Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Except of course I missed the meeting :) Is the recording available yet? On 4 Apr 2020, 12:20 +0100, David Bovill , wrote: > I’ve spent some time yesterday working on an open source Livecode library for > the Zoom API. I’m hoping a few of us could start collaborating on that as an > outcome of

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
I’ve spent some time yesterday working on an open source Livecode library for the Zoom API. I’m hoping a few of us could start collaborating on that as an outcome of the Zoom today? Will try to get that on Github by the meeting. It’s a script only stack. Anyone else working with API’s and

Re: Speech on Android

2020-04-04 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
Hi Monte, thanks for your answers. I also checked on stackOverflow, it seems more people have trouble with it, to simplify the names for it's users. The names also differ per country/language it seems. Probably there will some kind of logic, but we don't see it yet. I have no a recipe

Re: Speech on Android

2020-04-04 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
Thank you Ralph. I noticed that the Language on the Android system must be set to use the correct language. Else you get funny/strange results. I only have Dutch and English set. And when i set either of them on the first top place in system then my app talks correct. So to me it's also

Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-04 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Hi All - sorry this is a bit long, but I need help. I’m a long term LC developer who more or less retired from development a couple of years ago, but I’ve kept on lurking in this list and trying rather hopelessly to remain up to date. My experience has been mostly on desktop apps, with a

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread Prothero-earthlearningsol via use-livecode
Folks, I could see a Zoom feature that supports an online class. One pedagogical approach would be for a teacher to present a short overview of a subject, students are put into small video chat groups of 3 or 4 to work out an answer, then they present it to the class as a whole. There are many

Re: Getting started with geographical coordinates

2020-04-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
A quip from my college days: Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once. Space is what keeps everything from happening to YOU. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 4, 2020 12:25:14 PM Bob Sneidar via

Re: Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
The approach I take is to use getorop and set prop handlers for this. The data is then seperated from the code and Ibuse one standardised technique for accessing a model: out the model_Data of stack stackName into someData On 4 Apr 2020, 19:39 +0100, How to use LiveCode , wrote: > > ? > > What

Re: HilitedItem of a navbar

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Try empty Bob S On Apr 4, 2020, at 12:30 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: I can't set this to 0? I need to. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread Dan Brown via use-livecode
Definitely not a startup, they employ 700 developers in China. In fact your data is passing through China, and being passed on to facebook also. https://jitsi.org/ is a great open source Zoom alternative On Sat, 4 Apr 2020, 12:30 David Bovill via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>

Re: Getting started with geographical coordinates

2020-04-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/4/20 8:37 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Once I caught on, I realized that Mathematics was really a kind of numerical language for defining aspects of this 3 dimensional nature we call The Universe. You're still stuck in 3? Try 10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ca4miMMaCE

Re: Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
True, but with properties, I can envision a use case for persistent values between sessions. This is quite separate from GUI objects. By saving and reloading properties of a script only stack, everything is still text file only based. Bob S On Apr 4, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Richard Gaskin via

Re: Getting started with geographical coordinates

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
[ALERT: Waxing Philosophical] I wholeheartedly agree. These people UNDERSTOOD Mathematics. This was a big problem for me as a child. I failed 6th grade math and had to go to summer school to pass, partly because I was lazy and wouldn’t do my home work, but also because I would sit in class and

Re: Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hmmm… If that is the case then theoretically, on closeStack the new properties could be arrayEncoded and saved to disk, and then on openStack they could be read and then arrayDecoded and reset again. Bob S On Apr 4, 2020, at 10:20 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar worte: > Richard wrote: >> And did you notice Zoom's API docs? >> https://marketplace.zoom.us/docs/guides/tools-resources/zoom-apis >> >> I've only started reading them, but the functionality seems like >> a very empowering compliment to LC's GUI capabilities, esp. for >> integrating

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Would be great to get that up and running. Matrix plays well with Jitsi, and is a great decentralised chat platform. On 4 Apr 2020, 20:30 +0100, Mark Wieder via use-livecode , wrote: > On 4/4/20 8:33 AM, Dan Brown via use-livecode wrote: > > > https://jitsi.org/ is a great open source Zoom

Re: Getting started with geographical coordinates

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Exactly. :-) Bob S On Apr 4, 2020, at 10:59 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: A quip from my college days: Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once. Space is what keeps everything from happening to YOU. -- Jacqueline Landman

RE: Getting started with geographical coordinates

2020-04-04 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
A friend of mine turned me on to this 10 years ago. This is the Haversine formula. It assumes that the earth is sphere and is not very accurate for very small distances. I have not tried to use the Vincenty's formula that does better. For general purposes the HF should be sufficient. Just give me

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/3/20 10:27 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: And as both technologists and citizens, in addition to what Zoom is, also valuable is what they're not: not Google Hangouts, not Apple FaceTime, not Microsoft Teams, etc.  A startup this successful outside the Big Five is helpful for

Re: Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
When a script only stack is opened, LC creates a temporary stack and plops the script into it. At that point its just like any other library stack. You could add images, controls, other scripts, custom props, anything. The only difference is that when the stack closes, the text of the stack

Re: Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I just discovered an interesting aspect of script only stacks. They > CAN have Custom Properties… but ONLY while in memory! Once closed, the > properties disappear. Seems like a slight mod would be able to save > these properties as a separate file so that they can remain >

Re: Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > True, but with properties, I can envision a use case for persistent > values between sessions. Persistence is essential in many contexts. But is it necessary that data be bound to code? Sometimes it is. When it is, is it necessary that the file format be text? > This

Re: Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Hmmm… If that is the case then theoretically, on closeStack the new > properties could be arrayEncoded and saved to disk, and then on > openStack they could be read and then arrayDecoded and reset again. Stacks can also contain controls, each of which can be expressed as an

Script Only Stack Properties

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. I just discovered an interesting aspect of script only stacks. They CAN have Custom Properties… but ONLY while in memory! Once closed, the properties disappear. Seems like a slight mod would be able to save these properties as a separate file so that they can remain persistent.

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Richard, Without going into the details of the API, do you think a kind of Customer Support portal could be built into LC? Bob S On Apr 3, 2020, at 10:27 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: > I'm *very* impressed with Zoom's

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dan Brown wrote: > Definitely not a startup, they employ 700 developers in China. True, "startup" was a bad word choice on my part. I was grasping for a word that distinguishes them from The Big Five that currently control nearly everything on the Internet. In a system as vast and

Re: Getting started with geographical coordinates

2020-04-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I see where people get confused. When we talk about dimensions, for most people the “Physical” in “Physical Dimensions” is implied, just like when Dad says, “Hand me the map”, what he really means is, “Hand me the plastic coated street and highway map of the state of California that we just

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
We have some experience for running learning groups and breakouts in Zoom. Would love to help trial that at the next Zoom? On 4 Apr 2020, 19:29 +0100, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode , wrote: > Bob Sneidar worte: > > > Richard wrote: > > > And did you notice Zoom's API docs? > > >

Re: How to find the column and row of a basic tableField

2020-04-04 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
PS - Here are two word problems to view this type of algorithm in a bigger context beyond just software UI. Not too scary or difficult; our ancestors could solve similar problems, and so can kids in school. Older problem: You are in charge of preparing animal enclosures for a market. The

HilitedItem of a navbar

2020-04-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I can't set this to 0? I need to. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/4/20 8:33 AM, Dan Brown via use-livecode wrote: https://jitsi.org/ is a great open source Zoom alternative Jitsi looks very impressive *if* you're running your own server. Everything is encrypted from end to end *except* on the server itself, so you probably don't want to use their

Re: HilitedItem of a navbar

2020-04-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I have a PR that supports this (setting 0 will highlight nothing): https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6404 It is vulcan reviewed, but not merged. A push may get it into the next DP. Thanks, Brian On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:31 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <

Maximum field height?

2020-04-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I have a field that reports a formattedheight of 125396. I want to extend it to full height for use inside an enclosing scrolling group. But when I try to set the height to the formattedHeight, I get an error: Value is not a number. If I try to set its height in the property inspector, it

RE: HilitedItem of a navbar

2020-04-04 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I have a version that will let you set it to zero and also if the label is a single space the icon will expand to the full height. I can send it to you is you like. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode

Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-04 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
For Android: Install Oracle Java SDK 1.8.x Install Android Studio (or the command line version as you only need the sdk and some tools) but easier is Android Studio. Then in Android Studio download sdk for Android 4.1.2 and 9 or so. And perhaps an emulator. But there are lessons for it a