Re: Moving object out of a group

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Kind of, but I'm not very good at it. Look at what happened. Now I'm afraid 
to go back and try to fix it.


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On June 15, 2020 2:48:27 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 6/15/20 12:32 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote:


by scripting the past.


I thought Jacque was the only who had that superpower...

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Re: Catalina Entitlements or Permissions (was Possible Catalina problem)

[Mark Talluto via use-livecode]

We use App Wrapper 3 to sign and notarize our apps. You can control all of 
these details from inside the app. It makes it pretty easy. I think you can try 
the app for free and see if this works for you.
https://www.ohanaware.com/appwrapper/ 

Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io 
nursenotes.net 
canelasoftware.com 


> On Jun 15, 2020, at 4:55 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> We're having some macOS Catalina permissions/entitlements issues
> 
> We have applications that we deliver for Catalina where the application 
> (LiveCode standalone) is code-signed. It is then packaged in an installers 
> (LiveCode standalone) and the installer is code signed. That is then placed 
> in a DMG, which is code-signed, notarized, and stapled.
> 
> This has worked for us since October when Catalina was released.
> 
> It still works, except sometimes, after successful downloading and 
> installation, when the applications is first launched, Catalina does not ask 
> for the permissions the Application needs. Instead certain handler throw an 
> execution error. The handlers that produce the errors on startup when 
> Catalina fails to ask for permissions have the following in common:

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mobileComposeMail on iOS

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I'm using mobileComposeMail to send a log file to the support queue when a user has a problem. 
It works fine in Android with any email client. In iOS it works for everyone except one person 
who has removed Mail from their iPhone and is using the gMail app as the mail client. When they 
tap the Send Log button, nothing at all happens.


This person also has an iPad with the same setup (no Mail app, gMail app ony.) That device 
*can* generate an email.


Is there some setting or configuration we should look at?

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Re: Moving object out of a group

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 6/15/20 12:32 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote:


by scripting the past.


I thought Jacque was the only who had that superpower...

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Re: Moving object out of a group

[Paul Hibbert via use-livecode]

Hi Sean,

Try collapsing the groups in the PB, then dragging the Graphic Object in 
between them.

I find that if the groups are displayed expanded, then the dragged object will 
end up in the group above where it is dropped, but with the groups collapsed 
you should be able to drop the objects in between them. You should be able to 
get away with just collapsing the group that you wish to place the Graphic 
below.

Paul

> On Jun 15, 2020, at 09:31, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This has been a problem for some time now but it's just got so much more
> frustrating for me. I tend to organise my objects into groups as there are
> often lots of them and it helps keep them manageable.
> 
> However, I have created a rectangle grc I need positioning between two
> group layers but I can never seem to get it to between them but only inside
> one or the other. It's not easy to describe so I've created a little video
> to help demonstrate it. -
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w75fapg0pqcgezg/MoveOutOfGrp.mov?dl=0
> 
> Ideally, the grc should end up outside of both groups but between them in
> the list. I've tried drag-drop and by changing the layer number but can't
> get it to place properly. Is there a way to overcome this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital *
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Re: Moving object out of a group

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 6/15/20 9:31 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:


Ideally, the grc should end up outside of both groups but between them in
the list. I've tried drag-drop and by changing the layer number but can't
get it to place properly. Is there a way to overcome this?



The only way I can ever do something like this is with the messagebox 
command line.


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Re: Moving object out of a group

[doc hawk via use-livecode]

I believe that I’ve also used cut to get things out of groups by scripting the 
past.

> On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> two possible, but not great, answers ... but (something like) this has worked 
> for me in the past.
> 
> 1. - drag/drop the grc rect to the containing group or card (i.e. outside the 
> groups it should not be in)
> 
>  - drag / drop other groups to before it
> 
> 2. - select the group it is in
> 
>- "Ungroup"
> 
>- deselect the rect
> 
>- "Group"
> 
> Alex.
> 
> 
> 
> On 15/06/2020 17:31, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> This has been a problem for some time now but it's just got so much more
>> frustrating for me. I tend to organise my objects into groups as there are
>> often lots of them and it helps keep them manageable.
>> 
>> However, I have created a rectangle grc I need positioning between two
>> group layers but I can never seem to get it to between them but only inside
>> one or the other. It's not easy to describe so I've created a little video
>> to help demonstrate it. -
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w75fapg0pqcgezg/MoveOutOfGrp.mov?dl=0
>> 
>> Ideally, the grc should end up outside of both groups but between them in
>> the list. I've tried drag-drop and by changing the layer number but can't
>> get it to place properly. Is there a way to overcome this?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Sean Cole
>> *Pi Digital *
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Re: Moving object out of a group

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

If the group is expanded in the Project Browser, then it lands inside the 
group.  If the group is collapsed/closed then it will move between groups.

Thanks,
Brian
On Jun 15, 2020, 2:49 PM -0400, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> two possible, but not great, answers ... but (something like) this has
> worked for me in the past.
>
> 1. - drag/drop the grc rect to the containing group or card (i.e.
> outside the groups it should not be in)
>
>  - drag / drop other groups to before it
>
> 2. - select the group it is in
>
>    - "Ungroup"
>
>    - deselect the rect
>
>    - "Group"
>
> Alex.
>
>
>
> On 15/06/2020 17:31, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This has been a problem for some time now but it's just got so much more
> > frustrating for me. I tend to organise my objects into groups as there are
> > often lots of them and it helps keep them manageable.
> >
> > However, I have created a rectangle grc I need positioning between two
> > group layers but I can never seem to get it to between them but only inside
> > one or the other. It's not easy to describe so I've created a little video
> > to help demonstrate it. -
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/w75fapg0pqcgezg/MoveOutOfGrp.mov?dl=0
> >
> > Ideally, the grc should end up outside of both groups but between them in
> > the list. I've tried drag-drop and by changing the layer number but can't
> > get it to place properly. Is there a way to overcome this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sean Cole
> > *Pi Digital *
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Re: Moving object out of a group

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

two possible, but not great, answers ... but (something like) this has 
worked for me in the past.


1. - drag/drop the grc rect to the containing group or card (i.e. 
outside the groups it should not be in)


 - drag / drop other groups to before it

2. - select the group it is in

   - "Ungroup"

   - deselect the rect

   - "Group"

Alex.



On 15/06/2020 17:31, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:

Hi all,

This has been a problem for some time now but it's just got so much more
frustrating for me. I tend to organise my objects into groups as there are
often lots of them and it helps keep them manageable.

However, I have created a rectangle grc I need positioning between two
group layers but I can never seem to get it to between them but only inside
one or the other. It's not easy to describe so I've created a little video
to help demonstrate it. -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w75fapg0pqcgezg/MoveOutOfGrp.mov?dl=0

Ideally, the grc should end up outside of both groups but between them in
the list. I've tried drag-drop and by changing the layer number but can't
get it to place properly. Is there a way to overcome this?

Thanks

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital *
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Is the speech library really there?

[doc hawk via use-livecode]

I tried to play with the speech library this morning, and on business 9.6, I 
can’t even prove that it’s there! (I would think that if nothing else, it would 
hit the online version of the dictionary

Even more interesting, when I try “speechInitializeLibrary” it comes up with 
*no* results . . .

I see a few pages written by folks that must have got it moving, but . . .
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Re: checking we are back

[doc hawk via use-livecode]

 Heather hailed,

>If you see this, no need to reply.

Not required, but permissive?

:_)


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Moving object out of a group

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi all,

This has been a problem for some time now but it's just got so much more
frustrating for me. I tend to organise my objects into groups as there are
often lots of them and it helps keep them manageable.

However, I have created a rectangle grc I need positioning between two
group layers but I can never seem to get it to between them but only inside
one or the other. It's not easy to describe so I've created a little video
to help demonstrate it. -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w75fapg0pqcgezg/MoveOutOfGrp.mov?dl=0

Ideally, the grc should end up outside of both groups but between them in
the list. I've tried drag-drop and by changing the layer number but can't
get it to place properly. Is there a way to overcome this?

Thanks

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital *
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Re: Catalina Entitlements or Permissions (was Possible Catalina problem)

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hello Paul,

I guess you can sign the standalone mac app with entitlements, i.e. use a
file that will contain all the necessary entitlements, and include it in
the params passed to the codesign command. See this report for more details:

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22660

Kind regards,
Panos
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 14:56, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> We're having some macOS Catalina permissions/entitlements issues
>
> We have applications that we deliver for Catalina where the application
> (LiveCode standalone) is code-signed. It is then packaged in an
> installers (LiveCode standalone) and the installer is code signed. That
> is then placed in a DMG, which is code-signed, notarized, and stapled.
>
> This has worked for us since October when Catalina was released.
>
> It still works, except sometimes, after successful downloading and
> installation, when the applications is first launched, Catalina does not
> ask for the permissions the Application needs. Instead certain handler
> throw an execution error. The handlers that produce the errors on
> startup when Catalina fails to ask for permissions have the following in
> common:
>
> The set the defaultFolder to folders such as:
>
> /Library/PreferencePanes
> /Users//Library/Preferences -- this is using the code: the
> home folder & "/Library/PreferencePanes/"
> or
> /private/var/folders/fj/0llnt4vs44vfzy4r97k_wngcgp/T/TemporaryItems
> -- this is 'the temporary folder' on Mojave or Catalina. On Mavericks
> and earlier teh temporaty folder was
> /Users//Library/Caches/TemporaryItems
>
> After setting the defaultFolder, the code gets 'the files' or 'the
> folders' and fails (actually we've not pinned down whether it fails on
> set the defaultFolder OR on the call to 'the files/folders')
>
> Going to Apple (menu) > System Preferences (menu item) > Security &
> Privacy (control) > Privacy (tab) and selecting Full Disk Access and
> adding our applications prevents these errors from occuring.
>
> The issue is clearly with Catalina failing to detect and ask for the
> correct permissions. This is a known issue a number of developers have
> run into. See https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/125438 as one
> example where an Apple support person admits that detecting what
> permissions a process is requesting that is tied back to your user
> visible app (something Apple calls 'responsibility tracking') is really
> hard.
>
> For iOS and Android, you can specify entitlements or requested
> permissions in the Standalone Builder Settings. How do you do this for
> macOS Catalina?
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to specify entitlements for a macOS
> desktop app built in LiveCode? I have been googling and googling and can
> seem to find anything. I found one discussion on stackExchange that seem
> to imply that the PLIST file could be edited to specify entitlements. I
> have tried the Apple Developer site, but SO MUCH of it is orient towards
> people with lots of Apple Developer experience and focuses of C and
> SWIFT and Apple specific technologies I don't understand.
>
> I can edit the XML in a PLIST file in the standalone bundle IF I only
> knew what to add?
>
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Re: Build problems with 9.6

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hello David,

Where have you installed Xcode?

Could you try this in a terminal:

sudo xcode-select -s /path/to/your/Xcode.app

Also, it might be worth opening Xcode first (in case you have never opened
it).

Kind regards,
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 18:12, David V Glasgow via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> The tools appeared to install, but the error(s) still appear, and the
> standalone isn’t saved.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> David G
>
> > On 15 Jun 2020, at 1:04 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello David,
> >
> > Could you try what is suggested in
> > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22740?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Panos
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 14:02, David V Glasgow via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Should have said, MacOS 10.13.6
> >>
> >>> On 15 Jun 2020, at 11:20 am, David V Glasgow 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Folks,
> >>>
> >>> I have been trying out 9.6 on Mac on a stack developed with 7.1.4.  I
> >> made some minor tweaks to the stack and then tried to build a
> standalone.
> >> I didn’t check change the default build settings.  It built for linux,
> then
> >> entered a blizzard of 'stack with the same name is in memory’ alerts
> then
> >> crashed.
> >>>
> >>> I relaunched and switched off builds for Win, Mac 32 bit and Linux, so
> >> building just for Mac 64 (which was all I wanted).  Build for mobile
> both
> >> unchecked by default
> >>>
> >>> This failed with the following error(s)
> >>>
> >>> There was an error while saving the
> >>> standalone application
> >>>
> >>> Adding ad-hoc signature failed with error:
> >>> /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
> >>> Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app:
> >>> replacing existing signature
> >>>
> >>> Agreeing to the Xcode/iOS license requires
> >>> admin privileges, please run xcodebuild -license,All and then retry
> this
> >>> command.
> >>>
> >>> /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
> >>> Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app: the
> >>> codesign_allocate helper tool cannot be
> >>> found or used
> >>>
> >>> Que Pasa?  This isn’t for distribution or anything, and I have never
> >> tried to sign anything previously built.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> David Glasgow
> >>
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Re: checking we are back

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Resisting the urge to reply




Ahh, dang it!

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Productions Ltd


eMail Ts & Cs


> On 15 Jun 2020, at 09:26, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
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> If you see this, no need to reply.
> 
> 
> Heather Laine
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> 
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Re: checking we are back

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On 6/15/20 8:07 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Then please reply. ;)


Ah... the Bertrand Russell approach.

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Re: Build problems with 9.6

[David V Glasgow via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

The tools appeared to install, but the error(s) still appear, and the 
standalone isn’t saved.

Best wishes,

David G

> On 15 Jun 2020, at 1:04 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello David,
> 
> Could you try what is suggested in
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22740?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 14:02, David V Glasgow via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Should have said, MacOS 10.13.6
>> 
>>> On 15 Jun 2020, at 11:20 am, David V Glasgow 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> I have been trying out 9.6 on Mac on a stack developed with 7.1.4.  I
>> made some minor tweaks to the stack and then tried to build a standalone.
>> I didn’t check change the default build settings.  It built for linux, then
>> entered a blizzard of 'stack with the same name is in memory’ alerts then
>> crashed.
>>> 
>>> I relaunched and switched off builds for Win, Mac 32 bit and Linux, so
>> building just for Mac 64 (which was all I wanted).  Build for mobile both
>> unchecked by default
>>> 
>>> This failed with the following error(s)
>>> 
>>> There was an error while saving the
>>> standalone application
>>> 
>>> Adding ad-hoc signature failed with error:
>>> /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
>>> Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app:
>>> replacing existing signature
>>> 
>>> Agreeing to the Xcode/iOS license requires
>>> admin privileges, please run xcodebuild -license,All and then retry this
>>> command.
>>> 
>>> /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
>>> Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app: the
>>> codesign_allocate helper tool cannot be
>>> found or used
>>> 
>>> Que Pasa?  This isn’t for distribution or anything, and I have never
>> tried to sign anything previously built.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> David Glasgow
>> 
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Re: checking we are back

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Then please reply. ;) 



> Am 15.06.2020 um 16:58 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 6/15/20 1:26 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:
>> If you see this, no need to reply.
> 
> ...and if we don't see it?
> 
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Re: checking we are back

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On 6/15/20 1:26 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:

If you see this, no need to reply.


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Re: Build problems with 9.6

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hello David,

Could you try what is suggested in
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22740?

Kind regards,
Panos
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 14:02, David V Glasgow via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Should have said, MacOS 10.13.6
>
> > On 15 Jun 2020, at 11:20 am, David V Glasgow 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I have been trying out 9.6 on Mac on a stack developed with 7.1.4.  I
> made some minor tweaks to the stack and then tried to build a standalone.
> I didn’t check change the default build settings.  It built for linux, then
> entered a blizzard of 'stack with the same name is in memory’ alerts then
> crashed.
> >
> > I relaunched and switched off builds for Win, Mac 32 bit and Linux, so
> building just for Mac 64 (which was all I wanted).  Build for mobile both
> unchecked by default
> >
> > This failed with the following error(s)
> >
> > There was an error while saving the
> > standalone application
> >
> > Adding ad-hoc signature failed with error:
> > /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
> > Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app:
> > replacing existing signature
> >
> > Agreeing to the Xcode/iOS license requires
> > admin privileges, please run xcodebuild -license,All and then retry this
> > command.
> >
> > /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
> > Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app: the
> > codesign_allocate helper tool cannot be
> > found or used
> >
> > Que Pasa?  This isn’t for distribution or anything, and I have never
> tried to sign anything previously built.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > David Glasgow
>
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Catalina Entitlements or Permissions (was Possible Catalina problem)

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

We're having some macOS Catalina permissions/entitlements issues

We have applications that we deliver for Catalina where the application 
(LiveCode standalone) is code-signed. It is then packaged in an 
installers (LiveCode standalone) and the installer is code signed. That 
is then placed in a DMG, which is code-signed, notarized, and stapled.


This has worked for us since October when Catalina was released.

It still works, except sometimes, after successful downloading and 
installation, when the applications is first launched, Catalina does not 
ask for the permissions the Application needs. Instead certain handler 
throw an execution error. The handlers that produce the errors on 
startup when Catalina fails to ask for permissions have the following in 
common:


The set the defaultFolder to folders such as:

/Library/PreferencePanes
/Users//Library/Preferences -- this is using the code: the 
home folder & "/Library/PreferencePanes/"

or
/private/var/folders/fj/0llnt4vs44vfzy4r97k_wngcgp/T/TemporaryItems 
-- this is 'the temporary folder' on Mojave or Catalina. On Mavericks 
and earlier teh temporaty folder was 
/Users//Library/Caches/TemporaryItems


After setting the defaultFolder, the code gets 'the files' or 'the 
folders' and fails (actually we've not pinned down whether it fails on 
set the defaultFolder OR on the call to 'the files/folders')


Going to Apple (menu) > System Preferences (menu item) > Security & 
Privacy (control) > Privacy (tab) and selecting Full Disk Access and 
adding our applications prevents these errors from occuring.


The issue is clearly with Catalina failing to detect and ask for the 
correct permissions. This is a known issue a number of developers have 
run into. See https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/125438 as one 
example where an Apple support person admits that detecting what 
permissions a process is requesting that is tied back to your user 
visible app (something Apple calls 'responsibility tracking') is really 
hard.


For iOS and Android, you can specify entitlements or requested 
permissions in the Standalone Builder Settings. How do you do this for 
macOS Catalina?


Does anyone know if there is a way to specify entitlements for a macOS 
desktop app built in LiveCode? I have been googling and googling and can 
seem to find anything. I found one discussion on stackExchange that seem 
to imply that the PLIST file could be edited to specify entitlements. I 
have tried the Apple Developer site, but SO MUCH of it is orient towards 
people with lots of Apple Developer experience and focuses of C and 
SWIFT and Apple specific technologies I don't understand.


I can edit the XML in a PLIST file in the standalone bundle IF I only 
knew what to add?



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Re: Build problems with 9.6

[David V Glasgow via use-livecode]

Should have said, MacOS 10.13.6

> On 15 Jun 2020, at 11:20 am, David V Glasgow  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I have been trying out 9.6 on Mac on a stack developed with 7.1.4.  I made 
> some minor tweaks to the stack and then tried to build a standalone.  I 
> didn’t check change the default build settings.  It built for linux, then 
> entered a blizzard of 'stack with the same name is in memory’ alerts then 
> crashed.
> 
> I relaunched and switched off builds for Win, Mac 32 bit and Linux, so 
> building just for Mac 64 (which was all I wanted).  Build for mobile both 
> unchecked by default
> 
> This failed with the following error(s)
> 
> There was an error while saving the
> standalone application
> 
> Adding ad-hoc signature failed with error:
> /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
> Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app:
> replacing existing signature
> 
> Agreeing to the Xcode/iOS license requires
> admin privileges, please run xcodebuild -license,All and then retry this
> command.
> 
> /Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
> Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app: the
> codesign_allocate helper tool cannot be
> found or used
> 
> Que Pasa?  This isn’t for distribution or anything, and I have never tried to 
> sign anything previously built.  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> David Glasgow

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Build problems with 9.6

[David V Glasgow via use-livecode]

Hi Folks,

I have been trying out 9.6 on Mac on a stack developed with 7.1.4.  I made some 
minor tweaks to the stack and then tried to build a standalone.  I didn’t check 
change the default build settings.  It built for linux, then entered a blizzard 
of 'stack with the same name is in memory’ alerts then crashed.

I relaunched and switched off builds for Win, Mac 32 bit and Linux, so building 
just for Mac 64 (which was all I wanted).  Build for mobile both unchecked by 
default

This failed with the following error(s)

There was an error while saving the
standalone application

Adding ad-hoc signature failed with error:
/Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app:
replacing existing signature

Agreeing to the Xcode/iOS license requires
admin privileges, please run xcodebuild -license,All and then retry this
command.

/Users/mrdglasgow/Dropbox/Rev
Dev/ISOtex/Forinan12/Forinan.app: the
codesign_allocate helper tool cannot be
found or used

Que Pasa?  This isn’t for distribution or anything, and I have never tried to 
sign anything previously built.  

Cheers,

David Glasgow
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checking we are back

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

If you see this, no need to reply.


Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com




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