RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files.
This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser
compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from
being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some
licensing issues(money).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Dan Friedman
Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser?

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode
browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget)
doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this
URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open
it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or
do I have to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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RE: iOS Browser Widget and javascriptHandlers Update

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Will do.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Milby via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 8:01 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Brian Milby
Subject: Re: iOS Browser Widget and javascriptHandlers Update

Did you file a bug report?  I would not expect it to work like that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just a warning. I fixed this by deleting and recreating the Browser Widget.
> The Widget was created in v9.5.1 and apparently was not compatible 
> with v9.6.0. I changed the code to delete all browser widgets and recreate 
> them.
> I wasted a couple of days debugging and then creating a small test program.
> The test program worked and then the preverbal light bulb came on and 
> I deleted/recreated widget in full app... Voilà, everything worked. I 
> don't know how we can prevent things like this is the future? Maybe 
> widgets should have some sort of version code to warn you of this.
> 
> beware
> 
> LC 9.6
> 
> I create I browser widget. I add a JavaScript Handler using (set the 
> javascriptHandlers). Load webpage on an https server. The callbacks to 
> LC work OK in Win 10 IDE and on Android deployment. On iOS 13 testers 
> report the JavaScript call backs don't work first time but on 
> subsequent loads of the page it works OK. This is the initial problem. 
> So I fired up my test device to see what's going on. This is where it get 
> weird.
> 
> My test device is an iPad Mini running iOS 12.4.7 and JavaScript 
> Handler call back to LC never works. I put some JavaScript "alert"s in 
> the code for debugging. The alerts never show up but does show on Android and 
> in the IDE.
> The alerts also show up in Safari and Chrome on the same 12.4.7 device 
> just not in the browser widget. I verified that the remaining 
> JavaScript code in the page is actually running just fine but no 
> JavaScript Handler call backs or alerts are working.
> 
> Could there a plist permission issue? I'm at a loss... Any ideas?
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
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Re: iOS Browser Widget and javascriptHandlers Update

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Did you file a bug report?  I would not expect it to work like that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just a warning. I fixed this by deleting and recreating the Browser Widget.
> The Widget was created in v9.5.1 and apparently was not compatible with
> v9.6.0. I changed the code to delete all browser widgets and recreate them.
> I wasted a couple of days debugging and then creating a small test program.
> The test program worked and then the preverbal light bulb came on and I
> deleted/recreated widget in full app... Voilà, everything worked. I don't
> know how we can prevent things like this is the future? Maybe widgets should
> have some sort of version code to warn you of this.
> 
> beware
> 
> LC 9.6
> 
> I create I browser widget. I add a JavaScript Handler using (set the
> javascriptHandlers). Load webpage on an https server. The callbacks to LC
> work OK in Win 10 IDE and on Android deployment. On iOS 13 testers report
> the JavaScript call backs don't work first time but on subsequent loads of
> the page it works OK. This is the initial problem. So I fired up my test
> device to see what's going on. This is where it get weird.
> 
> My test device is an iPad Mini running iOS 12.4.7 and JavaScript Handler
> call back to LC never works. I put some JavaScript "alert"s in the code for
> debugging. The alerts never show up but does show on Android and in the IDE.
> The alerts also show up in Safari and Chrome on the same 12.4.7 device just
> not in the browser widget. I verified that the remaining JavaScript code in
> the page is actually running just fine but no JavaScript Handler call backs
> or alerts are working.
> 
> Could there a plist permission issue? I'm at a loss... Any ideas?
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
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AR in LiveCode Browser?

[Dan Friedman via use-livecode]

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. 
  It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have 
access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this URL 
https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open it in 
a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or do I have 
to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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iOS Browser Widget and javascriptHandlers Update

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Just a warning. I fixed this by deleting and recreating the Browser Widget.
The Widget was created in v9.5.1 and apparently was not compatible with
v9.6.0. I changed the code to delete all browser widgets and recreate them.
I wasted a couple of days debugging and then creating a small test program.
The test program worked and then the preverbal light bulb came on and I
deleted/recreated widget in full app... Voilà, everything worked. I don't
know how we can prevent things like this is the future? Maybe widgets should
have some sort of version code to warn you of this.

beware

LC 9.6

I create I browser widget. I add a JavaScript Handler using (set the
javascriptHandlers). Load webpage on an https server. The callbacks to LC
work OK in Win 10 IDE and on Android deployment. On iOS 13 testers report
the JavaScript call backs don't work first time but on subsequent loads of
the page it works OK. This is the initial problem. So I fired up my test
device to see what's going on. This is where it get weird.

My test device is an iPad Mini running iOS 12.4.7 and JavaScript Handler
call back to LC never works. I put some JavaScript "alert"s in the code for
debugging. The alerts never show up but does show on Android and in the IDE.
The alerts also show up in Safari and Chrome on the same 12.4.7 device just
not in the browser widget. I verified that the remaining JavaScript code in
the page is actually running just fine but no JavaScript Handler call backs
or alerts are working.

Could there a plist permission issue? I'm at a loss... Any ideas?
 
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Re: Test

[doc hawk via use-livecode]

Henry hollered,

>This is a test. Please ignore


Kids have been saying that every time they get a C- for generations . . .


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RE: Sockets (again)

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Bob,

I think you are doing the write too soon.
On the open socket command add "with message "MyConnectionAccepted"
Do the write in the MyConnectionAccepted handler.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 5:42 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Bob Sneidar
Subject: Sockets (again)

Hi all. 

I’m trying to get sockets working. The host is working, but I am not getting 
the message to trigger. Here’s the basic code: 

on mouseUp
   put "test" into tPayLoad
   open socket to "localhost:8085"
   write tPayload to socket "localhost:8085"
end mouseUp

-- socket handlers
on acceptConnections
  accept connections on port 8085 with message "ConnectionMade"
end acceptConnections

on ConnectionMade pIPAddress
  read from socket pIPAddress with message "dataReceived"
end ConnectionMade

on dataReceived pSocket
put pSocket
   


ConnectionMade gets called, but dataReceived does not. 

Bob S

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Re: Sockets (again)

[doc hawk via use-livecode]

I have a pair at http://dochawkbk.com/lcImages/ 
 of master and slave stacks to talk to one 
another.

They're meant to be compiled.

They're probably 5.x stacks . . . I haven’t looked at them for a while.

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Sockets (again)

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hi all. 

I’m trying to get sockets working. The host is working, but I am not getting 
the message to trigger. Here’s the basic code: 

on mouseUp
   put "test" into tPayLoad
   open socket to "localhost:8085"
   write tPayload to socket "localhost:8085"
end mouseUp

-- socket handlers
on acceptConnections
  accept connections on port 8085 with message "ConnectionMade"
end acceptConnections

on ConnectionMade pIPAddress
  read from socket pIPAddress with message "dataReceived"
end ConnectionMade

on dataReceived pSocket
put pSocket
   


ConnectionMade gets called, but dataReceived does not. 

Bob S

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Test

[HENRY LOWE via use-livecode]

This is a test. Please ignore.

Henry

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Re: Browser Widget iOS Local Html Files

[Tore Nilsen via use-livecode]

Sorry for asking you to do something you had already tried. I see now that you 
indeed tried setting the url of the widget. I just presumed that it worked the 
same way in iOS as in Win and MacOS. I do not develop for mobile so I have 
never had to deal with the way Android and iOS handles these things.

Tore 

> 29. jun. 2020 kl. 22:52 skrev Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> But how would I pass any parameters? Like MyPage.html?IDs=315,316,317"
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:39 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Tore Nilsen
> Subject: Re: Browser Widget iOS Local Html Files
> 
> Have you tried to set the url of the widget to tTemp. This actually loads
> the page in the widget as if it was any browser.
> 
> Tore
> 
>> 29. jun. 2020 kl. 21:56 skrev Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
> :
>> 
>> LC 9.6.0
>> 
>> I can't get a local html file to load in iOS browser widget. This is the
> first time I'm not using the mobile browser control. I'm now using the
> Browser Widget. I copy the files into the documents folder.
>> I'm using this format: (set the URL of widget "Browser1" to 
>> "file://"/MyPage.html?IDs=315,316,317")
>> 
>> This works on Android, Mac OSX 10.14.6 IDE and Win 10 IDE but not on 
>> iOS
>> 
>> I tried this: 
>> 
>> put url ("file:"/MyPage.html into tTemp set the 
>> htmlText of widget "Browser1" to tTemp
>> 
>> This loads the page as expected but I can't pass the required parameters.
>> 
>> I tried 1,2,3 and 4 slashes after the "file:" with no luck.
>> 
>> I'm stuck and under the gun(as usual) so any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> 
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RE: Browser Widget iOS Local Html Files

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

But how would I pass any parameters? Like MyPage.html?IDs=315,316,317"

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:39 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Tore Nilsen
Subject: Re: Browser Widget iOS Local Html Files

Have you tried to set the url of the widget to tTemp. This actually loads
the page in the widget as if it was any browser.

Tore

> 29. jun. 2020 kl. 21:56 skrev Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
:
> 
> LC 9.6.0
> 
> I can't get a local html file to load in iOS browser widget. This is the
first time I'm not using the mobile browser control. I'm now using the
Browser Widget. I copy the files into the documents folder.
> I'm using this format: (set the URL of widget "Browser1" to 
> "file://"/MyPage.html?IDs=315,316,317")
> 
> This works on Android, Mac OSX 10.14.6 IDE and Win 10 IDE but not on 
> iOS
> 
> I tried this: 
> 
> put url ("file:"/MyPage.html into tTemp set the 
> htmlText of widget "Browser1" to tTemp
> 
> This loads the page as expected but I can't pass the required parameters.
> 
> I tried 1,2,3 and 4 slashes after the "file:" with no luck.
> 
> I'm stuck and under the gun(as usual) so any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
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Re: Browser Widget iOS Local Html Files

[Tore Nilsen via use-livecode]

Have you tried to set the url of the widget to tTemp. This actually loads the 
page in the widget as if it was any browser.

Tore

> 29. jun. 2020 kl. 21:56 skrev Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> LC 9.6.0
> 
> I can't get a local html file to load in iOS browser widget. This is the 
> first time I'm not using the mobile browser control. I'm now using the 
> Browser Widget. I copy the files into the documents folder.
> I'm using this format: (set the URL of widget "Browser1" to 
> "file://"/MyPage.html?IDs=315,316,317")
> 
> This works on Android, Mac OSX 10.14.6 IDE and Win 10 IDE but not on iOS
> 
> I tried this: 
> 
> put url ("file:"/MyPage.html into tTemp
> set the htmlText of widget "Browser1" to tTemp
> 
> This loads the page as expected but I can't pass the required parameters.
> 
> I tried 1,2,3 and 4 slashes after the "file:" with no luck.
> 
> I'm stuck and under the gun(as usual) so any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
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OAuth2 on Win10: not returning to my app

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

I've been working with the Oauth2 lib included with v9 (superhandy, 
team, thanks!), and I've run into a snag:


When I call it, the browser widgets opens and goes to the authentication 
provider (in this case Office 365), and authentication seems to work well.


However, at that point I'd expect the browser widget's window to close 
and "it" would contain the approved auth scope info.


Instead what I'm seeing is the browser widget window remains open, and 
it redirects into my Office 365 account.  I can close the window 
manually with the "Cancel" button, but then "it" in my calling script 
contains "Cancel", no auth info.


Have any of you successfully used LC's OAuth2 lib to log into MS Office 
365 or other MS product that uses OAuth?


If so, what did you use for the redirect URL?  Or is there something 
else I should be considering?


TIA -

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Browser Widget iOS Local Html Files

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

LC 9.6.0

I can't get a local html file to load in iOS browser widget. This is the first 
time I'm not using the mobile browser control. I'm now using the Browser 
Widget. I copy the files into the documents folder.
I'm using this format: (set the URL of widget "Browser1" to 
"file://"/MyPage.html?IDs=315,316,317")

This works on Android, Mac OSX 10.14.6 IDE and Win 10 IDE but not on iOS

I tried this: 

put url ("file:"/MyPage.html into tTemp
set the htmlText of widget "Browser1" to tTemp

This loads the page as expected but I can't pass the required parameters.

I tried 1,2,3 and 4 slashes after the "file:" with no luck.

I'm stuck and under the gun(as usual) so any help would be appreciated.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Mora Catalina permissions woes....

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

List Folks: A head up of a Catalina issue:

If your code signed Standalone is trying to access stacks that are 
OUTSIDE the app bundle under Catalina, sometimes Catalina will not 
properly detect your apps need for access. You will not get an "App 
wants access to blah blah: Allow or Deny" dialogs and you app will throw 
a script error (if you have assumed successful access and not coded for 
errors)


In our case, we have the App (bundle) and a folder of stacks that sits 
next to it, both in a containing folder that is what is installed where 
the user installs it. So


FOLDER: OurAppFolder
> OurApp.app
>FOLDER: OurStacks
>> Some library stacks

We construct a full path to each library stack in "OurStacks" in a 
variable called tLibrary and when we execute

if there is a file tLibrary then
  start using tLibrary
end if
for the 1st library, we get a script error on the start using statement. 
The test for existence does return true.


start: can't find object

If you go to Apple (menu) > System Preferences (menu item) > Security & 
Privacy (panel) > Privacy (tab) > Full Disk Access and grant 
"OurApp.app" access, then subsequent launches work flawlessly.


This is clearly a Catalina entitlements/permissions issue.

We have distilled a test stack and have seen the error occur multiple 
times. The problem is we have not found a recipe that reproduces the 
error 100% reliably.


I have seen discussions that suggest Apple has provided NO entitlement 
you can code sign your app with to allow full disk access. They see 
individual folder access (like Documents, Desktop, etc.) and Full Disk 
Access (which subsumes all individual folder access) as being only 
grantable by the user.


QUESTIONS:

1) Any one else run into any situations where Catalina is failing to 
detect and ask for ANY given entitlement?


2) Any one else run into failures in detecting and asking for disk 
access entitlements?


3) If you have this problem, do you you tell customers to grant the app 
full disk access before running it? If so, how do you phrase that in a 
way that makes them comfortable and works?


4) Does anyone know of an entitlement for macOS Catalina that allows 
full disk access? Or even access to say the Applications folder?



P.S. If we can produce a recipe that is reliable, we will file a bug 
report on this. At the very least, LC may want to update "start using" 
to return an error code so you don't have to trap it with a try...end 
try block.





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Re: OFFLIST Re: Animation Engine: speed tips

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

The first rule of OFFLIST is you don’t cc to the list.  :-)

But, I too an interested in what Malte is up to.  
Hope all things are going well for you Malte.

Martin


> On Jun 29, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> D'oh! My bad, I'd meant to not take up list space with this.
> 
> But we all love Malte, and maybe he won't mind taking a moment to let us know 
> what he's working on lately.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World Systems
> 
> 
> Colin wrote:
>> We’re all curious!
>>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode >> at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> On the use-livecode list you wrote:
>>> > Hey Alex,
>>> >
>>> > Public Domain it is. I’ve set it free couple. of years back, as I am
>>> > essentially no longer writing code. :-) Still following LiveCodes
>>> > progress with interest though.  :-)
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Malte
>>> If you're no coding, what are you up to these days?
> 
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Re: OFFLIST Re: Animation Engine: speed tips

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

D'oh! My bad, I'd meant to not take up list space with this.

But we all love Malte, and maybe he won't mind taking a moment to let us 
know what he's working on lately.


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Colin wrote:

We’re all curious!


On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode  wrote:

On the use-livecode list you wrote:
> Hey Alex,
>
> Public Domain it is. I’ve set it free couple. of years back, as I am
> essentially no longer writing code. :-) Still following LiveCodes
> progress with interest though.  :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Malte

If you're no coding, what are you up to these days?



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Re: OFFLIST Re: Animation Engine: speed tips

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

We’re all curious!

> On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On the use-livecode list you wrote:
> > Hey Alex,
> >
> > Public Domain it is. I’ve set it free couple. of years back, as I am
> > essentially no longer writing code. :-) Still following LiveCodes
> > progress with interest though.  :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Malte
> 
> If you're no coding, what are you up to these days?
> 
> -- 
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World Systems
> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> 
> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
> 
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OFFLIST Re: Animation Engine: speed tips

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

On the use-livecode list you wrote:
> Hey Alex,
>
> Public Domain it is. I’ve set it free couple. of years back, as I am
> essentially no longer writing code. :-) Still following LiveCodes
> progress with interest though.  :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Malte

If you're no coding, what are you up to these days?

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 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


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Re: Animation Engine: speed tips

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

Thanks Malte. Hope you are enjoying whatever it is you're doing instead 
of writing code :-)


Thanks again for having put AE into the Public Domain.

Alex.

On 29/06/2020 10:15, Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode wrote:

Hey Alex,

Public Domain it is. I’ve set it free couple. of years back, as I am 
essentially no longer writing code. :-) Still following LiveCodes progress with 
interest though.  :-)

Cheers,

Malte
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Re: Animation Engine: speed tips

[Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode]

Hey Alex,

Public Domain it is. I’ve set it free couple. of years back, as I am 
essentially no longer writing code. :-) Still following LiveCodes progress with 
interest though.  :-)

Cheers,

Malte
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