Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread Dev via use-livecode
Hi Richard

Since I have been on DreamHost for more than a decade, I would love to have 
something like this set up. I’m not too proficient with Terminal or Linux, but 
can follow instructions. I would love to know if there is a crib sheet or step 
by step or tutorial that I could follow to get an instance running in my space?

Thanks for any information that you can point me to.

Kelly Janz

> On 19Oct, 2020, at 12:35 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Neville Smythe wrote:
> 
>>> On 19 Oct 2020, at 3:00 am, use-livecode-request at lists.runrev.com wrote:
>>> Dreamhost never did install LC ... but several of us have made it work.
>>> Just get the right server executable and permissions.
>>> I could never get it work account wide but it rocked for individual web
>>> site installation.
>> Ah. I got the distinct impression I would need a dedicated server account on 
>> DreamHost, not a shared environment, to instal LC Server; for this user’s 
>> site that would not be worth the cost.
>> To quote the reply from DreamHost:
>> -
>> Unfornately we no longer support LiveCode server on our servers at this
>> time. Looks like current install steps require root/admin access to some
>> apache config files, which is not something we allow on our managed
>> server types. You could install that on a Dedicated server, or DreamCompute 
>> instance if
>> you wish to, but that would be something you or your developers would
>> want to do using root on that service. -
> 
> I'm not sure what that DH rep is going on about, because the same set of LC 
> Lessons that describe how to set it up via Apache config also include one on 
> setting it up via .htacces on shared hosts.
> 
> I can understand why they don't *support* LC, is in provide technical support 
> for it, since LC isn't theirs to support.  There are too many languages in 
> this world to expect a vendor to train their staff in all of them.
> 
> But there's nothing special about setting up LC Server that's much different 
> from setting up any scripting engine to work as a CGI under Apache. IMO a 
> shared host wouldn't be worth using if they turned off CGI support 
> altogether, and thankfully DH hasn't.
> 
> Many of us have been using LC Server on Dreamhost shared servers for many 
> years. And just to make sure nothing has changed, I just did a fresh install 
> into a new folder on one my servers - try this:
> 
> https://fourthworldlabs.com/lcs-test/test.lc
> 
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread Neville Smythe via use-livecode

> I'm not sure what that DH rep is going on about, because the same set of 
> LC Lessons that describe how to set it up via Apache config also include 
> one on setting it up via .htacces on shared hosts.

Many thanks Richard

I will give it a go.

I was once told by a DreamHost support guy that they didn’t use use Mailman for 
their mail distribution lists. So not too surprising.

Neville
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread Thierry Douez via use-livecode


> Le 19 oct. 2020 à 08:45, Dev via use-livecode  
> a écrit :
> 
> Since I have been on DreamHost for more than a decade, I would love to have 
> something like this set up. I’m not too proficient with Terminal or Linux, 
> but can follow instructions. I would love to know if there is a crib sheet or 
> step by step or tutorial that I could follow to get an instance running in my 
> space?
> 
> Thanks for any information that you can point me to.

Hi,

AxWald is talking about this topic here:

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068 



and it just works!

Kind regards,

Thierry

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Re: Textsize of label of copied btn changes

2020-10-19 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Richard,
Yes, I realize that. However, when I first created the button, on the source 
card, I expected that the text size and font would be what was displayed in the 
ide. However, none were actually set. Confusing for one who trusts that the ide 
displays the actual properties of the object.

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Check the card properties.
> 
> All evidence reported to date is fully explained by the textFfont being set 
> on the source card.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> William Prothero wrote:
>> Richard:
>> I found that when I created a button, the textsize property had not been 
>> set, even though the IDE showed it to be 13. I then went to the IDE to click 
>> the size up to `4, then back down to 13 and then, when I did:
>> put the texsize of btn “mybutton”, it showed the textsize correctly.
>> It’s just one of those frustrating mysteries one encounters. The copied btn 
>> textsize was probably picking up the textsize from the fields that I had 
>> already imported.
>> I’d have to call it a bug, I guess??
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> William A. Prothero
>> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
 On Oct 13, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
  wrote:
>>> William Prothero wrote:
>>> > I am copying a button from one card to another. The font size of the
>>> > label changes from that of the original to a large font and I can’t
>>> > figure out how to change the textsize of the label. I keep getting an
>>> > error.
>>> set the textSize of btn "SoAndSo" to 14
>>> The curious part is that it changed when you pasted it.  If you have a 
>>> textSize specified for the card it came from but not the card it was pasted 
>>> in, that would govern all controls that do not have their own testSize 
>>> property explicitly set.
>>> -- 
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>>> 
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Neville Smythe wrote:


On 19 Oct 2020, at 3:00 am, use-livecode-request at lists.runrev.com wrote:

Dreamhost never did install LC ... but several of us have made it work.
Just get the right server executable and permissions.
I could never get it work account wide but it rocked for individual web
site installation.


Ah. I got the distinct impression I would need a dedicated server account on 
DreamHost, not a shared environment, to instal LC Server; for this user’s site 
that would not be worth the cost.

To quote the reply from DreamHost:
-
Unfornately we no longer support LiveCode server on our servers at this
time. Looks like current install steps require root/admin access to some
apache config files, which is not something we allow on our managed
server types. 


You could install that on a Dedicated server, or DreamCompute instance if
you wish to, but that would be something you or your developers would
want to do using root on that service. 
-


I'm not sure what that DH rep is going on about, because the same set of 
LC Lessons that describe how to set it up via Apache config also include 
one on setting it up via .htacces on shared hosts.


I can understand why they don't *support* LC, is in provide technical 
support for it, since LC isn't theirs to support.  There are too many 
languages in this world to expect a vendor to train their staff in all 
of them.


But there's nothing special about setting up LC Server that's much 
different from setting up any scripting engine to work as a CGI under 
Apache. IMO a shared host wouldn't be worth using if they turned off CGI 
support altogether, and thankfully DH hasn't.


Many of us have been using LC Server on Dreamhost shared servers for 
many years. And just to make sure nothing has changed, I just did a 
fresh install into a new folder on one my servers - try this:


https://fourthworldlabs.com/lcs-test/test.lc

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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
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Re: Textsize of label of copied btn changes

2020-10-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

ELS Prothero wrote:

> Yes, I realize that. However, when I first created the button, on the
> source card, I expected that the text size and font would be what was
> displayed in the ide. However, none were actually set. Confusing for
> one who trusts that the ide displays the actual properties of the
> object.

Was the text showing the textFont size in the IDE's Inspector italic?

http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2020-October/262040.html

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Re: LC iOS Command 'mergPopActivity'

2020-10-19 Thread Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode
Graham wrote:
”[…] iOS Deployment, for me a nightmare compared with simply coding and 
debugging.”

Indeed - I know the feeling, as do many of us, I believe.

I wise man (Richard Gaskin actually) once said:
”Mobile development is like building a ship in a bottle.”

I find that a very apt and accurate parable (and I dare to say that even 
though, admittedly, I have no actual experience in bottled ship building). :)
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Re: LC iOS Command 'mergPopActivity'

2020-10-19 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks very much for that. Sadly on a first look, in this particular case there 
is little or no additional detail about the command. Nevertheless I think there 
should be a link to the Merg web site in the LC Dictionary itself.

I rely heavily on the Dictionary, and only venture elsewhere when I am 
completely foxed, as with iOS Deployment, for me a nightmare compared with 
simply coding and debugging.

It is also true that the Simulator is very limited, in particular in showing 
what’s happening when things go wrong (silent failure being a factor which has 
bitten me several times). Under the Simulator, my GPS-related app can only use 
a couple of limited examples built in to Xcode.

Probably there is a way to roll your own, but only in the monstrous xCode 
universe, so very different from the familiar environment of LC. I am really 
too old to start learning all that stuff. Apart though from my own bruised ego, 
there is the issue of one of the key USPs of LC - simplicity - being damaged by 
the difficulty of deployment. I’m ranting, I suppose… will study the Merg info, 
but sadly still need Elanor to ride to the rescue!

Graham

> On 19 Oct 2020, at 03:23, Andrew at MidWest Coast Media 
>  wrote:
> 
> The limited documentation is at http://mergext.com/home/mergpop/ 
> 
> Glad to hear that Elanor might be working on some more documentation. This 
> feature (like push notifications and mobile camera) are difficult to test 
> since the emulator either doesn’t work or has extremely limited functionality.
> 
> I found this code snippet in an old project where I was taking a screenshot 
> of part of the screen and trying to share to Facebook or Twitter.
> 
> export snapshot from rect tExportRect of this card to file tFilePath as PNG
> 
> mergPopActivity "Indiana On Tap just hooked me up!",tFilePath,”"
> 
> 
> —Andrew Bell
> 
> 
>> 
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 12:58:50 +0200
>> From: Graham Samuel mailto:livf...@mac.com>>
>> To: How to use LiveCode > >
>> Subject: LC iOS Command 'mergPopActivity' [was Re: The iOS "Files"
>>  folder]
>> Message-ID: <769b3120-fcf5-4ecb-9683-ac0a303e2...@mac.com 
>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>> 
>> I have been trying to use this command, initially to allow an iOS app to put 
>> something in the ?Files? folder on an iPhone, but I?m now more interested in 
>> the whole idea of Activity Views and how to exploit them in an iOS app. I 
>> believe that the LC ?mergPopActivity' command is a wrapper for some function 
>> in the iOS native universe - connected with ?UIActivityViewController', but 
>> so far I haven?t worked out which one, since I don?t really understand much 
>> of Apple?s iOS Developer documentation (I always hope that using LC removes 
>> the need to do so!).
>> 
>> Elanor Buchanan of the mother ship has been extremely helpful about this, 
>> and has said she hopes to improve the almost non-existent documentation of 
>> this command, but meanwhile I?m interested if anyone on this list has any 
>> insights, as I?m quite stuck and don?t want to bug Elanor too much.
>> 
>> When you invoke the ?mergPopActivity' command in an LC script, it opens a 
>> modal window which gives a gateway into services available on your device, 
>> like email, printing, saving to ?Files?, sending to social media etc - it 
>> depends on what your device is capable of, and the apps it has loaded; so I 
>> believe that the LC command essentially implements the ?sharing? activity in 
>> iOS, which is usually invoked via an icon consisting of a square with a 
>> North-pointing arrow in it. 
>> 
>> So far so good, but I?ve only been able to do one thing so far, which is to 
>> offer a text string originating in the app to these various services. So far 
>> I have not been able to find a way to offer a file (for example, a file 
>> containing a text rather than the text itself - easy to generate within an 
>> app, but no luck in offering to email it etc). There is a ?URL? parameter 
>> but I can?t work out what it does.
>> 
>> Anyone got any clues or shall I apologise (again) to Elanor and ask her for 
>> more help?
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
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Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello folks,

I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are experiencing a
strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
hardware.

Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the iPhone 8
Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.

More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect of
iPhone 8 Plus.

Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a quick
test and report here what you get?

Thanks a lot :)

Kind regards,
Panos

PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all these 3
devices have the same screen size.
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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see the
auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)

Corrections:

* A LC user ...

* ...and it works as expected for us

Thank you :)

Panos
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos 
wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are experiencing a
> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
> hardware.
>
> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the iPhone 8
> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
>
> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect of
> iPhone 8 Plus.
>
> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a quick
> test and report here what you get?
>
> Thanks a lot :)
>
> Kind regards,
> Panos
>
> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all these 3
> devices have the same screen size.
> --
>
>
>

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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Great, thank you very much Matthias :)

I will file an enhancement request to make sure this behavior is documented
in the dictionary entry of the screenrect.

Kind regards,
Panos
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:45, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> my father in law came back earlier than expected.
> You were correct. The phone display was zoomed.
> I switched it back to "standard" and tested again.
>
> With "standard" the screenrect returns  0,0,414,736
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>
> > Am 19.10.2020 um 17:34 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> >
> > -
> > Matthias Rebbe
> > Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> >
> >> Am 19.10.2020 um 17:17 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >:
> >>
> >> Hmm I think I have found something - I had checked for this before -
> but in
> >> the wrong place.
> >>
> >> @Matthias could you check if "Display Zoom" is enabled in your device?
> >>
> >> This is in Settings -> Display and Brightness  and then scroll down and
> in
> >> the "Display Zoom" section, does it say "Standard" or "Zoomed" ?
> >>
> > Believe me or not, that was something i thought also could be the
> culprit. But forgot to test, because i got an important phone call.
> >
> > I will test this later today. I had to give the phone back to the owner,
> but can get it back in the evening.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Panos
> >> --
> >>
> >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:51, panagiotis merakos 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Matthias,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
> >>> mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.
> >>>
> >>> The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this
> is an
> >>> iOS 14 issue.
> >>>
> >>> We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14
> SDK,
> >>> so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.
> >>>
> >>> In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
> >>> would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Panos
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi Panos,
> 
>  i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
>  device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
>  Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod, ipod/iphone/ipad) and
>  with iOS 10,11,12,13.
> 
>  iOS 14.01
>  Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
> 
> 
>  Regards,
> 
> 
>  -
>  Matthias Rebbe
>  Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
> > Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now
> see
>  the
> > auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
> >
> > Corrections:
> >
> > * A LC user ...
> >
> > * ...and it works as expected for us
> >
> > Thank you :)
> >
> > Panos
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
>  panos.mera...@livecode.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello folks,
> >>
> >> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are
>  experiencing a
> >> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the
> specific
> >> hardware.
> >>
> >> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them
> incorrect
> >> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
>  iPhone 8
> >> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
> >>
> >> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is
> the
> >> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the
> screenrect
>  of
> >> iPhone 8 Plus.
> >>
> >> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a
>  quick
> >> test and report here what you get?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot :)
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Panos
> >>
> >> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all
>  these 3
> >> devices have the same screen size.
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Panagiotis Merakos   panos.mera...@livecode.com>>
> > LiveCode Software Developer
> >
> > Everyone Can Create Apps  https://livecode.com/>>
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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello Matthias,

Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.

The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this is an
iOS 14 issue.

We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14 SDK,
so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.

In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)

Kind regards,
Panos
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
> device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
> Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod, ipod/iphone/ipad) and with
> iOS 10,11,12,13.
>
> iOS 14.01
> Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>
> > Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see
> the
> > auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
> >
> > Corrections:
> >
> > * A LC user ...
> >
> > * ...and it works as expected for us
> >
> > Thank you :)
> >
> > Panos
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
> panos.mera...@livecode.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello folks,
> >>
> >> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are experiencing
> a
> >> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
> >> hardware.
> >>
> >> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
> >> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
> iPhone 8
> >> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
> >>
> >> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
> >> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect
> of
> >> iPhone 8 Plus.
> >>
> >> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a quick
> >> test and report here what you get?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot :)
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Panos
> >>
> >> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all these
> 3
> >> devices have the same screen size.
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Panagiotis Merakos  panos.mera...@livecode.com>>
> > LiveCode Software Developer
> >
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Re: Textsize of label of copied btn changes

2020-10-19 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Richard,
Yes, if my memory doesn’t fail me, it was in italic. Hmmm, I guess I was 
supposed to know that meant it wasn’t set and the value shown was a default?

Best,
Bill

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> On Oct 18, 2020, at 11:38 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> ELS Prothero wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I realize that. However, when I first created the button, on the
> > source card, I expected that the text size and font would be what was
> > displayed in the ide. However, none were actually set. Confusing for
> > one who trusts that the ide displays the actual properties of the
> > object.
> 
> Was the text showing the textFont size in the IDE's Inspector italic?
> 
> http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2020-October/262040.html
> 
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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hi Panos,

i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real device the 
screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod, ipod/iphone/ipad) and with iOS 
10,11,12,13.

iOS 14.01
Modell MQ8L2ZD/A


Regards,


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Life Is Too Short For Boring Code

> Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see the
> auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
> 
> Corrections:
> 
> * A LC user ...
> 
> * ...and it works as expected for us
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos  >
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are experiencing a
>> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
>> hardware.
>> 
>> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
>> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the iPhone 8
>> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
>> 
>> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
>> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect of
>> iPhone 8 Plus.
>> 
>> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a quick
>> test and report here what you get?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot :)
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> 
>> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all these 3
>> devices have the same screen size.
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hmm I think I have found something - I had checked for this before - but in
the wrong place.

@Matthias could you check if "Display Zoom" is enabled in your device?

This is in Settings -> Display and Brightness  and then scroll down and in
the "Display Zoom" section, does it say "Standard" or "Zoomed" ?

Kind regards,
Panos
--

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:51, panagiotis merakos  wrote:

> Hello Matthias,
>
> Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
> mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.
>
> The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this is an
> iOS 14 issue.
>
> We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14 SDK,
> so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.
>
> In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
> would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)
>
> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Panos,
>>
>> i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
>> device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
>> Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod, ipod/iphone/ipad) and
>> with iOS 10,11,12,13.
>>
>> iOS 14.01
>> Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>
>> > Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> >
>> > Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see
>> the
>> > auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
>> >
>> > Corrections:
>> >
>> > * A LC user ...
>> >
>> > * ...and it works as expected for us
>> >
>> > Thank you :)
>> >
>> > Panos
>> > --
>> >
>> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
>> panos.mera...@livecode.com >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello folks,
>> >>
>> >> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are
>> experiencing a
>> >> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
>> >> hardware.
>> >>
>> >> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
>> >> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
>> iPhone 8
>> >> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
>> >>
>> >> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
>> >> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect
>> of
>> >> iPhone 8 Plus.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a
>> quick
>> >> test and report here what you get?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks a lot :)
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >> Panos
>> >>
>> >> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all
>> these 3
>> >> devices have the same screen size.
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode


-
Matthias Rebbe
Life Is Too Short For Boring Code

> Am 19.10.2020 um 17:17 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hmm I think I have found something - I had checked for this before - but in
> the wrong place.
> 
> @Matthias could you check if "Display Zoom" is enabled in your device?
> 
> This is in Settings -> Display and Brightness  and then scroll down and in
> the "Display Zoom" section, does it say "Standard" or "Zoomed" ?
> 
Believe me or not, that was something i thought also could be the culprit. But 
forgot to test, because i got an important phone call.

I will test this later today. I had to give the phone back to the owner, but 
can get it back in the evening.

Regards,
Matthias


> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:51, panagiotis merakos  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Matthias,
>> 
>> Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
>> mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.
>> 
>> The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this is an
>> iOS 14 issue.
>> 
>> We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14 SDK,
>> so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.
>> 
>> In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
>> would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Panos,
>>> 
>>> i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
>>> device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
>>> Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod, ipod/iphone/ipad) and
>>> with iOS 10,11,12,13.
>>> 
>>> iOS 14.01
>>> Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>> 
 Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
 
 Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see
>>> the
 auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
 
 Corrections:
 
 * A LC user ...
 
 * ...and it works as expected for us
 
 Thank you :)
 
 Panos
 --
 
 On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
>>> panos.mera...@livecode.com >
 wrote:
 
> Hello folks,
> 
> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are
>>> experiencing a
> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
> hardware.
> 
> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
>>> iPhone 8
> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
> 
> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect
>>> of
> iPhone 8 Plus.
> 
> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a
>>> quick
> test and report here what you get?
> 
> Thanks a lot :)
> 
> Kind regards,
> Panos
> 
> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all
>>> these 3
> devices have the same screen size.
> --
> 
> 
> 
 
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi

revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer

Same for revdb_execute which returns 0

Any clues on how to actually get the status back?

Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.

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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Thanks Matthias, your help is much appreciated.

Kind regards
Panos

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 18:35 matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>
> > Am 19.10.2020 um 17:17 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Hmm I think I have found something - I had checked for this before - but
> in
> > the wrong place.
> >
> > @Matthias could you check if "Display Zoom" is enabled in your device?
> >
> > This is in Settings -> Display and Brightness  and then scroll down and
> in
> > the "Display Zoom" section, does it say "Standard" or "Zoomed" ?
> >
> Believe me or not, that was something i thought also could be the culprit.
> But forgot to test, because i got an important phone call.
>
> I will test this later today. I had to give the phone back to the owner,
> but can get it back in the evening.
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
>
> > Kind regards,
> > Panos
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:51, panagiotis merakos 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Matthias,
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
> >> mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.
> >>
> >> The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this is
> an
> >> iOS 14 issue.
> >>
> >> We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14
> SDK,
> >> so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
> >> would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Panos
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Panos,
> >>>
> >>> i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
> >>> device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
> >>> Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod, ipod/iphone/ipad) and
> >>> with iOS 10,11,12,13.
> >>>
> >>> iOS 14.01
> >>> Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Matthias Rebbe
> >>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> >>>
>  Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
>  Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see
> >>> the
>  auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
> 
>  Corrections:
> 
>  * A LC user ...
> 
>  * ...and it works as expected for us
> 
>  Thank you :)
> 
>  Panos
>  --
> 
>  On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
> >>> panos.mera...@livecode.com >
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are
> >>> experiencing a
> > strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the
> specific
> > hardware.
> >
> > Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them
> incorrect
> > values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
> >>> iPhone 8
> > Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
> >
> > More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
> > screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the
> screenrect
> >>> of
> > iPhone 8 Plus.
> >
> > Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a
> >>> quick
> > test and report here what you get?
> >
> > Thanks a lot :)
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Panos
> >
> > PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all
> >>> these 3
> > devices have the same screen size.
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> 
>  --
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> 
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Folks,
I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have a vps and 
root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user consequences of 
installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is fairly large and I’m 
concerned about both speed and memory issues when multiple users are accessing 
it.

I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any advice 
based on recent experience.

Thanks!
Bill

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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>> Le 19 oct. 2020 à 08:45, Dev via use-livecode 
>>>  a écrit :
>> Since I have been on DreamHost for more than a decade, I would love to have 
>> something like this set up. I’m not too proficient with Terminal or Linux, 
>> but can follow instructions. I would love to know if there is a crib sheet 
>> or step by step or tutorial that I could follow to get an instance running 
>> in my space?
>> Thanks for any information that you can point me to.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> AxWald is talking about this topic here:
> 
> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068 
> 
> 
> 
> and it just works!
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Thierry
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First version of LC that supports httpS?

2020-10-19 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi all,

see subject, maybe someone happens to know.
Obviously LC 5.02 does not support httpS yet.

Thanks a lot in advance!


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Re: Help needed :)

2020-10-19 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hi Panos,

my father in law came back earlier than expected.
You were correct. The phone display was zoomed.
I switched it back to "standard" and tested again.

With "standard" the screenrect returns  0,0,414,736

Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 19.10.2020 um 17:34 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 19.10.2020 um 17:17 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Hmm I think I have found something - I had checked for this before - but in
>> the wrong place.
>> 
>> @Matthias could you check if "Display Zoom" is enabled in your device?
>> 
>> This is in Settings -> Display and Brightness  and then scroll down and in
>> the "Display Zoom" section, does it say "Standard" or "Zoomed" ?
>> 
> Believe me or not, that was something i thought also could be the culprit. 
> But forgot to test, because i got an important phone call.
> 
> I will test this later today. I had to give the phone back to the owner, but 
> can get it back in the evening.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> --
>> 
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:51, panagiotis merakos  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
>>> mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.
>>> 
>>> The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this is an
>>> iOS 14 issue.
>>> 
>>> We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14 SDK,
>>> so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
>>> would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Panos,
 
 i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
 device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
 Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod, ipod/iphone/ipad) and
 with iOS 10,11,12,13.
 
 iOS 14.01
 Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 -
 Matthias Rebbe
 Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
 
> Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see
 the
> auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
> 
> Corrections:
> 
> * A LC user ...
> 
> * ...and it works as expected for us
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
 panos.mera...@livecode.com >
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are
 experiencing a
>> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
>> hardware.
>> 
>> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
>> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
 iPhone 8
>> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
>> 
>> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
>> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect
 of
>> iPhone 8 Plus.
>> 
>> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a
 quick
>> test and report here what you get?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot :)
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> 
>> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all
 these 3
>> devices have the same screen size.
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
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> 
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SQL Show Status

2020-10-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi

As everyone likes to hijack threads here, I’ve started another to make sure
it gets seen.


revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer

Same for revdb_execute which returns 0

Any clues on how to actually get the status back?

Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.
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www.pidigital.co.uk
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+44(7702)116447
'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
box!'
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Re: SQL Show Status

2020-10-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
See, I tried that but hadn't put the delimiters in. I need a break :/

Thanks Matthias :)

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital*


On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:53, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> You have to use
>
> revDataFromQuery()
>
> because that will execute the SQL statement and will return any data that
> is coming from the DB Server.
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>
> > Am 19.10.2020 um 19:41 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Hi Ralph,
> >
> > What do I do to see the data in the two columns? My brain is hurting too
> > much to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sean
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:26, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sean,
> >>
> >> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
> >>
> >> That integer is a record set.
> >> In my case it returned 536 rows.
> >> Each row has two columns:
> >> Variable_name
> >> Value
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me tell you Mr. Johnson... Some very interesting stuff in there.
> >>
> >> Ralph DiMola
> >> IT Director
> >> Evergreen Information Services
> >> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
> >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:50 PM
> >> To: How to use LiveCode
> >> Cc: Sean Cole (Pi)
> >> Subject: SQL Show Status
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> As everyone likes to hijack threads here, I’ve started another to make
> >> sure it gets seen.
> >>
> >>
> >> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
> >>
> >> Same for revdb_execute which returns 0
> >>
> >> Any clues on how to actually get the status back?
> >>
> >> Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.
> >> --
> >> Sean Cole
> >> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> >> www.pidigital.co.uk
> >> +44(1634)402193
> >> +44(7702)116447
> >> 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is
> no
> >> box!'
> >> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside
> of,
> >> but it is yourself!'
> >>
> >> eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
> >> Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
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[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 241

2020-10-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all,

Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source
community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter!

Read issue #241 here: https://bit.ly/3o5cCWX

This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been
going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be
released weekly on Mondays. We have a dedicated mailing list that will
deliver each issue directly to your e-mail, so you don't miss any!

If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Why is it that so many hijack threads rather than start new ones?

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:30, ELS Prothero via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Folks,
> I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have a vps
> and root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user consequences
> of installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is fairly large and
> I’m concerned about both speed and memory issues when multiple users are
> accessing it.
>
> I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any
> advice based on recent experience.
>
> Thanks!
> Bill
>
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org
>
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>> Le 19 oct. 2020 à 08:45, Dev via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> a écrit :
> >> Since I have been on DreamHost for more than a decade, I would love to
> have something like this set up. I’m not too proficient with Terminal or
> Linux, but can follow instructions. I would love to know if there is a crib
> sheet or step by step or tutorial that I could follow to get an instance
> running in my space?
> >> Thanks for any information that you can point me to.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > AxWald is talking about this topic here:
> >
> > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068 <
> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068>
> >
> >
> > and it just works!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Thierry
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Re: Textsize of label of copied btn changes

2020-10-19 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
One of those gotchas that you learn once and never forget. It's really handy 
when you want to change the look and feel of an entire stack, or each card in a 
stack. It REALLY is handy when creating cross platform apps and you want to use 
one font for both Windows and Mac without having to change the font and size 
for every object. 

Yes, Italic (and also a shade of gray) indicates it is inheriting the 
particular setting from somewhere else. Setting the property to empty (not 
default as might seem intuitive) is how you revert to inheritance. 

Bob S


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 09:17 , ELS Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> Yes, if my memory doesn’t fail me, it was in italic. Hmmm, I guess I was 
> supposed to know that meant it wasn’t set and the value shown was a default?
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org

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RE: SQL Show Status

2020-10-19 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Sean,

revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer

That integer is a record set.
In my case it returned 536 rows.
Each row has two columns:
Variable_name
Value


Let me tell you Mr. Johnson... Some very interesting stuff in there.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:50 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Sean Cole (Pi)
Subject: SQL Show Status

Hi

As everyone likes to hijack threads here, I’ve started another to make sure it 
gets seen.


revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer

Same for revdb_execute which returns 0

Any clues on how to actually get the status back?

Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.
--
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*Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
www.pidigital.co.uk
+44(1634)402193
+44(7702)116447
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it is yourself!'

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Re: First version of LC that supports httpS?

2020-10-19 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Mark and Sean

> Am 19.10.2020 um 18:55 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 2020-10-19 17:31, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> see subject, maybe someone happens to know.
>> Obviously LC 5.02 does not support httpS yet.
> 
> HTTPS has been supported since engine version 2.6 judging by the libURL 
> source - so that would be LiveCode 2.x (for some 'x' - I can't remember the 
> exact version the engine version and the - what was Revolution - version 
> synced up).
> 
> However, it is unlikely that https will work anymore from those engines with 
> any suitably maintained web-server since the SSL protocol version they use 
> will likely be judged insecure by the server and thus not allow connection. 
> (Although that can be very unwisely changed on the webserver side).
> 
> Another facet here will be the 'root certificate bundle' which will almost 
> certainly be well out of date for older engines (at some point we did make 
> collection of SSL certificates from the OS automatic - that was before 6.0 by 
> the look of it).
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.

thanks a lot for your answers!


Best

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Re: SQL Show Status

2020-10-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi Ralph,

What do I do to see the data in the two columns? My brain is hurting too
much to figure it out.

Thanks
Sean

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:26, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Sean,
>
> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
>
> That integer is a record set.
> In my case it returned 536 rows.
> Each row has two columns:
> Variable_name
> Value
>
>
> Let me tell you Mr. Johnson... Some very interesting stuff in there.
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf Of Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:50 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Sean Cole (Pi)
> Subject: SQL Show Status
>
> Hi
>
> As everyone likes to hijack threads here, I’ve started another to make
> sure it gets seen.
>
>
> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
>
> Same for revdb_execute which returns 0
>
> Any clues on how to actually get the status back?
>
> Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.
> --
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> www.pidigital.co.uk
> +44(1634)402193
> +44(7702)116447
> 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
> box!'
> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
> but it is yourself!'
>
> eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
> Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
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Re: LC Server- Optimum setup

2020-10-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

prothero wrote:

> I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have
> a vps and root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user
> consequences of installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is
> fairly large and I’m concerned about both speed and memory issues when
> multiple users are accessing it.
>
> I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any
> advice based on recent experience.

CGIs are CGIs, whether configured for all users via admin access to 
Apache config, or for individual users on a shared host via .htacces.


Also, the size on disk is not reflective of real-world RAM requirements. 
You can check RAM requirements in Terminal by calling the engine with a 
simple script using the timing tool located at /usr/bin/time:


  /user/bin/time -v /path/to/your/lcserver somescript.lc

The -v flag is for "verbose", listing a wide range of runtime stats 
including "Maximum resident set size" and "Average resident set size", 
with "set size" referring to physical RAM used.


For example, running that on the script I posted earlier for my example 
CGI yields:


User time (seconds): 0.02
System time (seconds): 0.02
Percent of CPU this job got: 97%
Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 0:00.04
Average shared text size (kbytes): 0
Average unshared data size (kbytes): 0
Average stack size (kbytes): 0
Average total size (kbytes): 0
Maximum resident set size (kbytes): 19728
Average resident set size (kbytes): 0
Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 0
Minor (reclaiming a frame) page faults: 1526
Voluntary context switches: 1
Involuntary context switches: 0
Swaps: 0
File system inputs: 0
File system outputs: 0
Socket messages sent: 0
Socket messages received: 0
Signals delivered: 0
Page size (bytes): 4096
Exit status: 0


Separate from anything to do with LC, there is a modest performance 
difference between using .htacess and making those directives available 
to all users in Apache config: if you don't enable mod_rewrite, Apache 
doesn't need to scan folders for .htaccess files.  This is a VERY minor 
difference, however, and if you need the flexibility of mod_rewrite you 
should use it.


But FWIW most production servers set things up in Apache config, and 
since you're not limited to the issues with shared hosting you might as 
well do it the standard way.  It's more work, and you'll be using sudo a 
lot since permissions are tighter.  But for a production server, more 
restrictive permissions are exactly what we want.


--
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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Sean,
LC server issues seemed like the general topic. 
Sorry to have bothered you.
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why is it that so many hijack threads rather than start new ones?
> 
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:30, ELS Prothero via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Folks,
>> I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have a vps
>> and root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user consequences
>> of installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is fairly large and
>> I’m concerned about both speed and memory issues when multiple users are
>> accessing it.
>> 
>> I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any
>> advice based on recent experience.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://es.earthednet.org
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> Le 19 oct. 2020 à 08:45, Dev via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> a écrit :
 Since I have been on DreamHost for more than a decade, I would love to
>> have something like this set up. I’m not too proficient with Terminal or
>> Linux, but can follow instructions. I would love to know if there is a crib
>> sheet or step by step or tutorial that I could follow to get an instance
>> running in my space?
 Thanks for any information that you can point me to.
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> AxWald is talking about this topic here:
>>> 
>>> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068 <
>> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> and it just works!
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Thierry
>>> 
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> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
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Re: First version of LC that supports httpS?

2020-10-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2020-10-19 17:31, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi all,

see subject, maybe someone happens to know.
Obviously LC 5.02 does not support httpS yet.


HTTPS has been supported since engine version 2.6 judging by the libURL 
source - so that would be LiveCode 2.x (for some 'x' - I can't remember 
the exact version the engine version and the - what was Revolution - 
version synced up).


However, it is unlikely that https will work anymore from those engines 
with any suitably maintained web-server since the SSL protocol version 
they use will likely be judged insecure by the server and thus not allow 
connection. (Although that can be very unwisely changed on the webserver 
side).


Another facet here will be the 'root certificate bundle' which will 
almost certainly be well out of date for older engines (at some point we 
did make collection of SSL certificates from the OS automatic - that was 
before 6.0 by the look of it).


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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RE: LC Server- Optimum setup

2020-10-19 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I use it daily for everything from web pages to my homebrew web services. I 
don't have a heavy load but I have not received and performance complaints from 
customers.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
prothero--- via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 PM
To: JJS via use-livecode
Cc: proth...@earthlearningsolutions.org
Subject: LC Server- Optimum setup

Folks,
I’ve reposted this in a new thread, at Sean's suggestion. Please ignore my 
posting in the ssl thread.

I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have a vps and 
root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user consequences of 
installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is fairly large and I’m 
concerned about both speed and memory issues when multiple users are accessing 
it.

I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any advice 
based on recent experience.

Thanks!
Bill

William A. Prothero
Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
http://earthlearningsolutions.org/

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Re: SQL Show Status

2020-10-19 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
You have to use
 
revDataFromQuery()

because that will execute the SQL statement and will return any data that is 
coming from the DB Server.

Regards,
Matthias

-
Matthias Rebbe
Life Is Too Short For Boring Code

> Am 19.10.2020 um 19:41 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Ralph,
> 
> What do I do to see the data in the two columns? My brain is hurting too
> much to figure it out.
> 
> Thanks
> Sean
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:26, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sean,
>> 
>> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
>> 
>> That integer is a record set.
>> In my case it returned 536 rows.
>> Each row has two columns:
>> Variable_name
>> Value
>> 
>> 
>> Let me tell you Mr. Johnson... Some very interesting stuff in there.
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
>> Behalf Of Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:50 PM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Sean Cole (Pi)
>> Subject: SQL Show Status
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> As everyone likes to hijack threads here, I’ve started another to make
>> sure it gets seen.
>> 
>> 
>> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
>> 
>> Same for revdb_execute which returns 0
>> 
>> Any clues on how to actually get the status back?
>> 
>> Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.
>> --
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>> +44(7702)116447
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>> box!'
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RE: SQL Show Status

2020-10-19 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I don't use this method but this works.

put revDataFromQuery(,,YourDataseID,"SHOW STATUS")
This will return a tab delimited list, one per line.

put revDataFromQuery(comma,cr,YourDataseID,"SHOW STATUS")
This will return a comma delimited list, one per line.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:31 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Sean Cole (Pi)
Subject: Re: SQL Show Status

See, I tried that but hadn't put the delimiters in. I need a break :/

Thanks Matthias :)

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital*


On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:53, matthias rebbe via use-livecode < 
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> You have to use
>
> revDataFromQuery()
>
> because that will execute the SQL statement and will return any data 
> that is coming from the DB Server.
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>
> > Am 19.10.2020 um 19:41 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Hi Ralph,
> >
> > What do I do to see the data in the two columns? My brain is hurting 
> > too much to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sean
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:26, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < 
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sean,
> >>
> >> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
> >>
> >> That integer is a record set.
> >> In my case it returned 536 rows.
> >> Each row has two columns:
> >> Variable_name
> >> Value
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me tell you Mr. Johnson... Some very interesting stuff in there.
> >>
> >> Ralph DiMola
> >> IT Director
> >> Evergreen Information Services
> >> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] 
> >> On Behalf Of Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
> >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:50 PM
> >> To: How to use LiveCode
> >> Cc: Sean Cole (Pi)
> >> Subject: SQL Show Status
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> As everyone likes to hijack threads here, I’ve started another to 
> >> make sure it gets seen.
> >>
> >>
> >> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
> >>
> >> Same for revdb_execute which returns 0
> >>
> >> Any clues on how to actually get the status back?
> >>
> >> Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.
> >> --
> >> Sean Cole
> >> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> >> www.pidigital.co.uk
> >> +44(1634)402193
> >> +44(7702)116447
> >> 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There 
> >> is
> no
> >> box!'
> >> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look 
> >> outside
> of,
> >> but it is yourself!'
> >>
> >> eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
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Re: First version of LC that supports httpS?

2020-10-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
5.0.2 supports https but not TLS1.2

I got around this by using the revSecurity.dll from LC9 which works.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:31, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
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> Hi all,
>
> see subject, maybe someone happens to know.
> Obviously LC 5.02 does not support httpS yet.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
>
> Best
>
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Re: First version of LC that supports httpS?

2020-10-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Thanks for the heads up Mark. Appreciated.

TLS 1.3 is coming next year which will likely shake the tree again.

I've been trying it in LC 9 too and get just the same
functionality/responses/traffic as in 5.0.2 using the LC9 revsecurity.dll

HTTPS is working directly in LC9 and 5.0.2. But SQL with the correct
certificate ca, client-cert and client-key pem files still does not seem to
use SSL. But there is no real sure way of seeing if it does. I've tried a
SHOW STATUS request but it's not giving back the status response, just an
integer. It's getting super frustrating going round in circles.

Sean


On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:55, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
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> On 2020-10-19 17:31, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > see subject, maybe someone happens to know.
> > Obviously LC 5.02 does not support httpS yet.
>
> HTTPS has been supported since engine version 2.6 judging by the libURL
> source - so that would be LiveCode 2.x (for some 'x' - I can't remember
> the exact version the engine version and the - what was Revolution -
> version synced up).
>
> However, it is unlikely that https will work anymore from those engines
> with any suitably maintained web-server since the SSL protocol version
> they use will likely be judged insecure by the server and thus not allow
> connection. (Although that can be very unwisely changed on the webserver
> side).
>
> Another facet here will be the 'root certificate bundle' which will
> almost certainly be well out of date for older engines (at some point we
> did make collection of SSL certificates from the OS automatic - that was
> before 6.0 by the look of it).
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Mark.
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

2020-10-19 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Folks:
Please ignore my posting in this thread. I re-posted it in a new thread.
Best,
Bill

William A. Prothero
Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
http://earthlearningsolutions.org/

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why is it that so many hijack threads rather than start new ones?
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:30, ELS Prothero via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have a vps
>> and root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user consequences
>> of installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is fairly large and
>> I’m concerned about both speed and memory issues when multiple users are
>> accessing it.
>> 
>> I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any
>> advice based on recent experience.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://es.earthednet.org
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> Le 19 oct. 2020 à 08:45, Dev via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> a écrit :
 Since I have been on DreamHost for more than a decade, I would love to
>> have something like this set up. I’m not too proficient with Terminal or
>> Linux, but can follow instructions. I would love to know if there is a crib
>> sheet or step by step or tutorial that I could follow to get an instance
>> running in my space?
 Thanks for any information that you can point me to.
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> AxWald is talking about this topic here:
>>> 
>>> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068 <
>> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=34068>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> and it just works!
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Thierry
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Re: Textsize of label of copied btn changes

2020-10-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

ELS Prothero wrote:

> Yes, if my memory doesn’t fail me, it was in italic. Hmmm, I guess I
> was supposed to know that meant it wasn’t set and the value shown was
> a default?

Yes, more or less, though to be precise it's not so much default per se 
as inherited.


As Jacque noted yesterday, values italized in the Inspector are 
inherited, where the control being inspected has not had that value set.


Many visual properties are inherited, including textFont and textSize, 
in a scheme more or less conforming to the inheritance path of messages.


In your case it seems the textSize value is inherited from the card.

If you want a consistent font and size for all cards in a stack, clear 
any such card properties and set them in the stack.


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LC Server- Optimum setup

2020-10-19 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Folks,
I’ve reposted this in a new thread, at Sean's suggestion. Please ignore my 
posting in the ssl thread.

I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have a vps and 
root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user consequences of 
installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is fairly large and I’m 
concerned about both speed and memory issues when multiple users are accessing 
it.

I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any advice 
based on recent experience.

Thanks!
Bill

William A. Prothero
Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
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Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-19 Thread Paul McClernan via use-livecode
>
> OS X, Windows 95 through Windows 10, Raspberry Pi and "several variations
> of Unix (I think is just means Linux)".
>
> I'm thinking about tinkering with a FreeBSD server and LiveCode server,
> but I didn't see a "UNIX" version, so I suppose that I have to compile it.
> Have any of you installed LiveCode server on FreeBSD (or Solaris)?
>

As others mentioned, this is dated information. However, last I checked
macOS (or rather the "Darwin" layer of macOS) is POSIX compliant and built
from BSD UNIX 4.4 & bits of FreeBSD. So, I would not be all that surprised
if a LiveCode for macOS GUI-less/CLI executable could run on some other BSD.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:08 PM Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have a question.   It's not a very important question and I don’t want
> to bother you y 'all, so if you think is off-topic, feel free to not to
> respond,  I'm just curious.
>
> I've been working with Livecode for almost five years, and I never saw a
> LiveCode server  "UNIX" version.
>
> The LiveCode Wikipedia’s article says this: LiveCode runs on iOS, Android,
> OS X, Windows 95 through Windows 10, Raspberry Pi and "several variations
> of Unix (I think is just means Linux)".
>
> I'm thinking about tinkering with a FreeBSD server and LiveCode server,
> but I didn't see a "UNIX" version, so I suppose that I have to compile it.
> Have any of you installed LiveCode server on FreeBSD (or Solaris)?
>
> I'm just thinking, but maybe there's a small niche working  with LiveCode
> server on BSD or Solaris (still many companies use them and not many people
> develop software for this platforms nowadays).
> We have a few companies in Spain (my country) still using Solaris or BSD
> servers (mainly in the Graphic arts business).
>
> PS, I currently work with LiveCode Server on Centos, but it could be
> interesting  to test it in FreeBSD.
>
> Best regards/ Saludos cordiales/ Cordialement
>
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> ​Director de informática
> Directeur informatique
>
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Re: LC Server- Optimum setup

2020-10-19 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks, Richard. Good info. I’m not quite ready to jump in on this yet, but 
soon, and probably with Trevore’s Levure app.
Best,
Bill

William A. Prothero
https://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> prothero wrote:
> 
> > I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have
> > a vps and root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user
> > consequences of installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is
> > fairly large and I’m concerned about both speed and memory issues when
> > multiple users are accessing it.
> >
> > I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any
> > advice based on recent experience.
> 
> CGIs are CGIs, whether configured for all users via admin access to Apache 
> config, or for individual users on a shared host via .htacces.
> 
> Also, the size on disk is not reflective of real-world RAM requirements. You 
> can check RAM requirements in Terminal by calling the engine with a simple 
> script using the timing tool located at /usr/bin/time:
> 
>  /user/bin/time -v /path/to/your/lcserver somescript.lc
> 
> The -v flag is for "verbose", listing a wide range of runtime stats including 
> "Maximum resident set size" and "Average resident set size", with "set size" 
> referring to physical RAM used.
> 
> For example, running that on the script I posted earlier for my example CGI 
> yields:
> 
>User time (seconds): 0.02
>   System time (seconds): 0.02
>   Percent of CPU this job got: 97%
>   Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 0:00.04
>   Average shared text size (kbytes): 0
>   Average unshared data size (kbytes): 0
>   Average stack size (kbytes): 0
>   Average total size (kbytes): 0
>   Maximum resident set size (kbytes): 19728
>   Average resident set size (kbytes): 0
>   Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 0
>   Minor (reclaiming a frame) page faults: 1526
>   Voluntary context switches: 1
>   Involuntary context switches: 0
>   Swaps: 0
>   File system inputs: 0
>   File system outputs: 0
>   Socket messages sent: 0
>   Socket messages received: 0
>   Signals delivered: 0
>   Page size (bytes): 4096
>   Exit status: 0
> 
> 
> Separate from anything to do with LC, there is a modest performance 
> difference between using .htacess and making those directives available to 
> all users in Apache config: if you don't enable mod_rewrite, Apache doesn't 
> need to scan folders for .htaccess files.  This is a VERY minor difference, 
> however, and if you need the flexibility of mod_rewrite you should use it.
> 
> But FWIW most production servers set things up in Apache config, and since 
> you're not limited to the issues with shared hosting you might as well do it 
> the standard way.  It's more work, and you'll be using sudo a lot since 
> permissions are tighter.  But for a production server, more restrictive 
> permissions are exactly what we want.
> 
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