Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Dick Kriesel via use-livecode]

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:34 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>  wrote:

> I was just keen to understand why offset wasn’t happy with the ‘not(tab)’ in 
> this instance.

expression "not(tab)" evaluates to true, which doesn’t serve your purpose

— Dick


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Re: Trying to use the Segmented Control

[Ralf Bitter via use-livecode]

Thank you, I'm glad to see that
there is someone who finds use
for the widget.


Ralf


On 20.01.21 22:33, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 12/4/20 3:32 AM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote:

Ralf Bitter wrote



See: https://github.com/revig/universal-button-widget/releases/tag/1.0.1



Thank you Ralf for this brilliant widget.

Kind regards
Bernd


I finally had a chance to look at this widget. Thank you Ralf for your 
generous contribution, this is very useful!


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Re: LC Community Ask Password

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hello Bob,

I just did a quick test in LC 9.6.2 RC-2 and I cannot reproduce this bug. I
put this code in a button:

on mouseUp pButtonNumber
   ask password "Please log in:" titled "Password Test"
end mouseUp

I also tried putting this button in a modal stack.

In both cases, I can type in the ask password dialog, and the OK and Cancel
buttons do respond.

Could you file a bug report and attach a sample stack that demonstrates the
problem, so as we fix it asap?

Also, what is your MacOS version? I tested on Mojave.

Kind regards,
Panos
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use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Oddly 9.6.2 RC2 Community DOES solve the Standalone App settings bug I
> mentioned in another post. This is all Mac BTW.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Ask Password dialog pops but will not take input, nor can I click the
> Cancel or OK buttons.
> >
> > V9.6.2 RC2
> >
> > Bob S
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How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

Hi folks,
Please can anyone advise on the correct syntax for trying to find the first 
non-tab character offset in a string, as 'offset(not(tab), tString)’ seems to 
be returning strange results - i.e. a number but not the correct one?
Best,
Keith


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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Dick Kriesel via use-livecode]

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:25 AM, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Keith.  You could test each character until you find a tab:
> 
correction: until you find one that’s not a tab


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Call lc from php?

[Neville Smythe via use-livecode]

A slightly less cursory investigation informs me that



works, as I should;d have known.


Neville

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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Dick Kriesel via use-livecode]

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 1:30 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
> Please can anyone advise on the correct syntax for trying to find the first 
> non-tab character offset in a string

Hi, Keith.  You could test each character until you find a tab:

function offsetOfNotTab pString
 local i
 repeat for each char tChar in pString
add 1 to i
if tChar <> tab then return i
 end repeat
end offsetOfNotTab

— Dick
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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

Thanks Dick, this would definitely work - and I’m iterating through characters 
and lines anyway as I attempt to prettify a long data string for eased human 
readability. 
I was just keen to understand why offset wasn’t happy with the ‘not(tab)’ in 
this instance.
Best,
Keith   

> On 21 Jan 2021, at 10:25, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 1:30 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Please can anyone advise on the correct syntax for trying to find the first 
>> non-tab character offset in a string
> 
> Hi, Keith.  You could test each character until you find a tab:
> 
> function offsetOfNotTab pString
> local i
> repeat for each char tChar in pString
>add 1 to i
>if tChar <> tab then return i
> end repeat
> end offsetOfNotTab
> 
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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

Thanks Brian. I looked at matchChunk in the dictionary & it seems to return a 
boolean, rather than the offset. 

Thanks all - I’ve stopped trying to find the syntax for ‘find any char but 
this’ in offset and instead, taken Dick’s advice to iterate through the chars 
and count the loops until char <> tab. :)
Best,
Keith 

> On 21 Jan 2021, at 14:03, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> You could also use matchChunk with a regular expression that excludes the tab 
> character.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah yes indeed, I’d forgotten I could test with 'put not(tab)’ in the 
>> message box - that certainly proves the syntax was wrong! :-)
>> Best,
>> Keith
>> 
 On 21 Jan 2021, at 10:49, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 
 
> On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:34 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
 
 I was just keen to understand why offset wasn’t happy with the ‘not(tab)’ 
 in this instance.
>>> 
>>> expression "not(tab)" evaluates to true, which doesn’t serve your purpose
>>> 
>>> — Dick
>>> 
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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Just to clarify my suggestion, it isn’t the return value that you would use 
(other than to check for success), but the third variable in the call that has 
the position that you would be looking for.

When you say that you are prettifying... are you doing something to adjust each 
tab in the line?  If so, split may be useful to chunk the data into an array.

And yes, there are many ways to do just about anything.  Glad you found 
something that works for your situation.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brian. I looked at matchChunk in the dictionary & it seems to return 
> a boolean, rather than the offset. 
> 
> Thanks all - I’ve stopped trying to find the syntax for ‘find any char but 
> this’ in offset and instead, taken Dick’s advice to iterate through the chars 
> and count the loops until char <> tab. :)
> Best,
> Keith 
> 
>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 14:03, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You could also use matchChunk with a regular expression that excludes the 
>> tab character.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 21, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah yes indeed, I’d forgotten I could test with 'put not(tab)’ in the 
>>> message box - that certainly proves the syntax was wrong! :-)
>>> Best,
>>> Keith
>>> 
> On 21 Jan 2021, at 10:49, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:34 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
> 
> I was just keen to understand why offset wasn’t happy with the ‘not(tab)’ 
> in this instance.
 
 expression "not(tab)" evaluates to true, which doesn’t serve your purpose
 
 — Dick
 
 
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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

You could also use matchChunk with a regular expression that excludes the tab 
character.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah yes indeed, I’d forgotten I could test with 'put not(tab)’ in the message 
> box - that certainly proves the syntax was wrong! :-)
> Best,
> Keith
> 
>>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 10:49, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:34 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was just keen to understand why offset wasn’t happy with the ‘not(tab)’ 
>>> in this instance.
>> 
>> expression "not(tab)" evaluates to true, which doesn’t serve your purpose
>> 
>> — Dick
>> 
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Re: Call lc from php?

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Neville,

Why are you still using PHP when LC is better?
Why are you still using PHP when the hackers are all trying 
to hack it, and are apparently quite successful at it too!

If you check your system logs you will discover that
hackers try to install PHP on your system if it isn’t
running there yet, so they can hack it!

The only reason I can see for still running PHP
is if you have years worth of old PHP code that
you can’t afford to give up because the cost is
too great to replace it with LC code.

Oh well, at least you found what you needed
in the meantime.

Just my 2 cents for the day.  ;-)

Good luck!

Rick

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 6:13 AM, Neville Smythe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> A slightly less cursory investigation informs me that
> 
> 
> 
> works, as I should;d have known.
> 
> 
> Neville
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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

Ah, thanks, Brian - re-reading more carefully, I see how the first item in the 
positionVarsList would provide the offset of the first non-tab character.

Re prettification, I’m trying to create a quick & dirty tool to process a set 
of comma-delimited query strings - to see their common patterns. They have 
nested label:value pairs, some of which expand further into arrays of varying 
depth bounded with curly braces & square brackets but they’re not 
standards-based JSON HTML or XML, so Coda prettification tools can’t won’t 
recognise and clean them up for me.

It’s (hopefully) a one-off activity, so I’m hoping to get away with quick & 
dirty text manipulation. I’ve made reasonable progress by iterating through 
chars but now need to do some post-processing cleanup of the ’tab-nested’ lines 
- hence the need to count the tab indentations.

I try to avoid arrays, as I can’t see the workings! :-D
Best,
Keith  

> On 21 Jan 2021, at 15:06, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just to clarify my suggestion, it isn’t the return value that you would use 
> (other than to check for success), but the third variable in the call that 
> has the position that you would be looking for.
> 
> When you say that you are prettifying... are you doing something to adjust 
> each tab in the line?  If so, split may be useful to chunk the data into an 
> array.
> 
> And yes, there are many ways to do just about anything.  Glad you found 
> something that works for your situation.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Brian. I looked at matchChunk in the dictionary & it seems to return 
>> a boolean, rather than the offset. 
>> 
>> Thanks all - I’ve stopped trying to find the syntax for ‘find any char but 
>> this’ in offset and instead, taken Dick’s advice to iterate through the 
>> chars and count the loops until char <> tab. :)
>> Best,
>> Keith 
>> 
>>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 14:03, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You could also use matchChunk with a regular expression that excludes the 
>>> tab character.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 21, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
 
 Ah yes indeed, I’d forgotten I could test with 'put not(tab)’ in the 
 message box - that certainly proves the syntax was wrong! :-)
 Best,
 Keith
 
>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 10:49, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:34 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I was just keen to understand why offset wasn’t happy with the 
>> ‘not(tab)’ in this instance.
> 
> expression "not(tab)" evaluates to true, which doesn’t serve your purpose
> 
> — Dick
> 
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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Keith Clarke via use-livecode]

Ah yes indeed, I’d forgotten I could test with 'put not(tab)’ in the message 
box - that certainly proves the syntax was wrong! :-)
Best,
Keith

> On 21 Jan 2021, at 10:49, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:34 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
> 
>> I was just keen to understand why offset wasn’t happy with the ‘not(tab)’ in 
>> this instance.
> 
> expression "not(tab)" evaluates to true, which doesn’t serve your purpose
> 
> — Dick
> 
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Re: How to find the offset of the first character in a string that's not a tab?

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Always remember who is the computer, and who is the coder!

The computer may need to perform a loop under the hood, but that doesn't 
mean you need to use the "repeat" keyword.


It's often cleaner/faster when you don't. For those who value concise 
code and good performance in LiveCode, avoid unnecessary repeats.


Several other methods - regex as already suggested, or replace, word (if 
you're also skipping spaces), etc


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

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I Want to Print Out the Entire "mobile (ad,Control,Set,Get,Do"

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

It seems to be NOT in the guide. At least printable
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Fwd: xAPI in LiveCode (was Cmi5 eLearning Standard in LiveCode)

[Brian K. Duck via use-livecode]

Copy to the list...

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Brian K. Duck" 
> Subject: Re: xAPI in LiveCode (was Cmi5 eLearning Standard in LiveCode)
> Date: January 22, 2021 at 12:52:40 AM EST
> To: Martin Koob , David Bovill , 
> Brian Duck 
> Cc: i...@mac.com, Alex , chi...@themartinz.com, Henry 
> Ryng , Bryan Anderson 
> 
> I’ve not heard back that David can make the meeting or host the zoom, with 
> that in mind, I’ll make the first Zoom meeting for. 9 AM EST later this 
> morning, and if we run out of time, I’ll schedule another and share via email 
> and chat.
> 
> Brian
> 
> Brian Duck is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
> 
> Topic: xAPI in LiveCode - Zoom Meeting
> Time: Jan 22, 2021 09:00 AM America/Detroit
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://us04web.zoom.us/j/76771139503?pwd=UGRpWno1b0d6c1hPUlRUY0pTdmtzZz09 
> 
> 
> Meeting ID: 767 7113 9503
> Passcode: g95CH6
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Brian K. Duck > > wrote:
>> 
>> Martin, et al.
>> 
>> I see both Friday 9-11 am EST and Tuuesday 9-11 am as good working times.
>> 
>> David Boville has offered his premium Zoom account, so I’ve forwarded 
>> meeting notices to him to see if he is available. 
>> 
>> If anyone has a PRO/paid zoom account and may be able to host meetings, 
>> please let me know - it seems we may be best served with 2 hour work 
>> sessions. These are longer than the 40 minute free account allows, and it’s 
>> a challenge to get going, only to be kicked out of the room and get everyone 
>> to rejoin.
>> 
>> I should have said this sooner: one major drawback of When2Meet is that I 
>> don’t see email addresses for those who add their time, but don’t respond to 
>> this group.
>> If you are interested, please send email Il directly to bduck at mac dot 
>> com, and we’ll get you on this list.
>> 
>> We’ve also had some interest from the CMI5 working group, they meet Fridays 
>> at 10:30 EST, so there is overlap with their meeting.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad,
>> Brian Duck
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:18 PM, Martin Koob >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian
>>> 
>>> I put my availability for https://www.when2meet.com/?10756300-eiYV4 
>>>   Mine overlaps with yours and 
>>> Henk’s availability on Friday Jan 22, 2021 9:30 am - 10:00 am EST  and on 
>>> Tuesday Jan 26, 2021 from 9:30 am - 10:45 am EST
>>> 
>>> Anyone else available at those times?
>>> 
>>> Martin
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Brian K. Duck >>> > wrote:
 
 
 Please take the time to sign in to When2Meet at this URL, and let us know 
 when you are available for week #2 of xAPI in LiveCode:
 xAPI in LiveCode (Week 2)
 
 https://www.when2meet.com/?10756300-eiYV4 
 
 
 Thanks for your attention,
>>> 
> 

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Re: I Want to Print Out the Entire "mobile (ad,Control,Set,Get,Do"

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

I think you will need to print the dictionary entries for mobileControlSet and 
mobileControlGet and mobileControlDo.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 9:31 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
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> It seems to be NOT in the guide. At least printable
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Re: Call lc from php?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Rick Harrison wrote:
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 6:13 AM, Neville Smythe wrote:
>> A slightly less cursory investigation informs me that
>> 
>
> Why are you still using PHP when LC is better?


I agree of course that LC is a strong contender against any popular 
server-side language, as LC's chunk expressions and self-documenting 
style make clear.


But it isn't nearly as popular.

LC is where Ruby was before Rails: an interesting and useful language 
largely underappreciated for server work.


We don't even have a single generalized user management library for LC, 
let alone any of the CMSes, CRMs, LMSes, or hundreds of other categories 
where PHP is well established.


So one way LC can play a growing role in server development is through 
integration with existing services.


And odds are those existing services are written in PHP.

So Neville's question is one we might all ask ourselves:

How can we use LC to add new capabilities to the PHP-based systems that 
run most of the online world?



For my own part I've been exploring ways LC can be usefully integrated 
with the breadth of services provided with Nextcloud, which like most 
server systems is written in PHP.


I could theoretically reinvent everything in Nextcloud using LC, but 
given the countless thousands of hours that have gone into the vast 
suite of apps that community provides, why would I?


Right out of the box I get an API for user management, with access to 
arbitrary user-specific storage via WebDAV. One line of install code 
gives me a ready-to-go backend for a wide range of apps, letting me 
focus on the client side.


Lately I've begun taking that further, poking around the server side 
similar to whatever Neville's working on, looking for ways to integrate 
LC services with the services already built into Nextcloud.


Rewriting Nextcloud from scratch would be doable but prohibitively 
expensive.  But building on top of the Nextcloud platform lets me stand 
on the shoulders of giants, to see much further than I could on my own.


Integration is increasingly a core part of what my clients ask me to do 
as well.


The days of monolithic one-size-fits-all systems are passing, if they 
haven't passed already.


From here forward, the biggest opportunities are in integration with 
well established services.


This not only lets us focus on the specific functionality we enjoy 
building, but also carries the additional benefit for all of us in the 
LC community in introducing our favorite language into the communities 
for those systems.


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


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Fwd: xAPI in LiveCode (was Cmi5 eLearning Standard in LiveCode)

[Brian K. Duck via use-livecode]

 Martin, et al.


I see both Friday 9-11 am EST and Tuuesday 9-11 am as good working times.

David Boville has offered his premium Zoom account, so I’ve forwarded meeting 
notices to him to see if he is available. 

If anyone has a PRO/paid zoom account and may be able to host meetings, please 
let me know - it seems we may be best served with 2 hour work sessions. These 
are longer than the 40 minute free account allows, and it’s a challenge to get 
going, only to be kicked out of the room and get everyone to rejoin.

I should have said this sooner: one major drawback of When2Meet is that I don’t 
see email addresses for those who add their time, but don’t respond to this 
group.
If you are interested, please send email Il directly to bduck at mac dot com, 
and we’ll get you on this list.

We’ve also had some interest from the CMI5 working group, they meet Fridays at 
10:30 EST, so there is overlap with their meeting.

Sent from my iPad,
Brian Duck
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Re: xAPI in LiveCode (was Cmi5 eLearning Standard in LiveCode)

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

Hi Brian

I put my availability for https://www.when2meet.com/?10756300-eiYV4 
  Mine overlaps with yours and 
Henk’s availability on Friday Jan 22, 2021 9:30 am - 10:00 am EST  and on 
Tuesday Jan 26, 2021 from 9:30 am - 10:45 am EST

Anyone else available at those times?

Martin


> On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Brian K. Duck  wrote:
> 
> 
> Please take the time to sign in to When2Meet at this URL, and let us know 
> when you are available for week #2 of xAPI in LiveCode:
> xAPI in LiveCode (Week 2)
> 
> https://www.when2meet.com/?10756300-eiYV4 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your attention,

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