Re: Multiple Displays and Screenrect

[Richmond via use-livecode]

put the screenrects

with an 's'

Best, Richmond.

On 18.03.21 23:28, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to get the screenRect of multiple monitor setup?

Thanks,
Roger
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Re: Multiple Displays and Screenrect

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Got it. Thanks, Richmond.



> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:31 AM, Richmond via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> put the screenrects
> 
> with an 's'
> 
> Best, Richmond.
> 
> On 18.03.21 23:28, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:
>> Can someone please tell me how to get the screenRect of multiple monitor 
>> setup?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Roger
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Re: Android commissions

[JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode]

LiveCode is already looking into how to better support our revenue stream @ 
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23116 




Note that this can take a long while, perhaps a very long while

Op 18-3-2021 om 14:46 schreef Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via 
use-livecode:

In November 2020 I reported a similar story about Apple. It seems Android is 
following suit and cutting their take from 30% to 15% for small developers. 
This is GREAT for those of us selling under $1M worth of software annually!

Blog story: 
https://www.engadget.com/google-play-store-fee-reduction-july-1-172359771.html 

Official PR: 
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2021/03/boosting-dev-success.html 


LiveCode is already looking into how to better support our revenue stream @ 
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23116 


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Re: [ANN] New Book: Development Oriented Development

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

Hi Andre

I am enjoying your new book. It demystifies for me plug-ins and how to create 
them. My mystification creates anxiety around venturing into creating a plugin 
much less adding existing plugins to my IDE and configuring them.  After 
reading the first sections of your book that anxiety is dissipating.   

You advice to look for areas of friction in your workflow really relates to an 
experience I had recently.  For a new project I had to make lots of fields with 
lots of labels and changing the text of a label takes way longer than it 
should.  Finally, after years of grumbling to myself that this should be easier 
I created a handler that I added as a behaviour to a template label field.  
Basically it allows you to set the text of a label by double clicking with the 
browse tool on a text label field and then entering the text in an answer 
dialog. I could then option drag the label field template and then change its 
text with a simple double click. As a bonus I could set it to align left by 
holding the option + double clicking the label field. 

It worked ok speeding up that task but it was a handler incorporated in a 
specific project. I thought this should be incorporated into the IDE to really 
work as I intended but I wasn’t sure how I could do that. I had thoughts of 
frontscripts or backscripts or plugins in mind but I did not know how to work 
with any of these, and, due to the mystification factor which leads to anxiety 
which prevents me from trying new approaches I didn’t go any further with that. 
 Now after reading up to page 43 of your book I think that I should be able to 
create a plugin to add this feature to mould the IDE.

Now I am starting the section “What are your needs?” Well I already have my 
need in mind — a quick and easy way to set label field text.  My goal now is to 
create a plugin that will accomplish this.   Looking forward to learning how in 
the rest of your book. 

Martin Koob. 
 

Sent from my iPhone after much consternation trying to type with one finger. 

> On Mar 17, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a ton for the kind words my friends :D
> 
> In essence, this is a very simple book that is aiming to convey a single
> idea: "you can and should create  your own tools". I think that is a topic
> that we need to explore more.
> 
> Cheers
> A
> 
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 01:56, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andre
>> 
>> I had to get this one. The title alone intrigued me. But looking at the
>> contents I know I need it to grow further. I'm looking forward to getting
>> your insights. I'll start tonight.
>> 
>> All the very best
>> Sean
>> Pi
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 14:11, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Friends,
 
 I'm quite happy to announce the initial release of my new LiveCode
>> eBook.
 This is a companion book to the previous "LiveCode Advanced Application
 Architecture" eBook that dives further into making LiveCode IDE a
 comfortable place for your development workflow.
 
 "Development Oriented Development" is a novel approach to coding with
 LiveCode that prioritizes developer comfort and robustness by favouring
 treating LiveCode as a mouldable environment. By the end of this book,
 you’ll know how and why to build custom plugins to make your
>> development
 workflow easier, and how bespoke project-specific tools lead to
>> software
 that is easier to maintain.
 
 You can get the new book at: https://payhip.com/b/18eH
 
 I look forward to feedback, suggestions, and requests for more chapters
 
 Cheers
 Andre
 
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Re: LC Bug: Copying an Image fails

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

MS Office copy operations are notoriously problematic. Microsoft maintains 
their own clipboard format, so that when switching to another product the 
clipboard must be translated. Other apps may do the same. The translation does 
not always go to plan.

Bob S


On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Paul:

>  Return an error code or even just empty or something

A very prophetic statement; that appears to be the case on Mac.
I copy a Word image, LC "paste" is not enabled.

Thus, likely image copy/paste trouble is not limited to Windows.
(As opposed to the separate hard crash bug.)

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Help! I'm stuck

[prothero--- via use-livecode]

Folks:
I have a pretty complicated application, with numerous stacks and lib stacks. 
I’m trying to build a stand-alone but after making a bunch of progress dealing 
with obvious errors, the standalone builder gives me an error listing that I 
can’t figure out where to go from here. All of the stacks and text only stacks 
are in the “Stacks” list. The app runs fine in the IDE.

I’d really appreciate it if someone would look at this error list and give me 
some hints about where I should go from here to get an app built. There are no 
reverences to stacks that I created in the error list, only to rev code.

I’m on Big Sur, Macintosh, LC 9.6.2 (RC-3), Business Version

Link to page 1: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1q7d3emqq8ygis/Errors-Page-1.pdf?dl=0 

Link to page 2: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc18s3gkzv92w2w/Errors-page-2.pdf?dl=0 


Thanks for any insight!
Bill

William A. Prothero, Ph.D.
University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus)
Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
http://earthlearningsolutions.org/

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Re: Help! I'm stuck

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Do you have a copy of 9.6.0? Try compiling with that. 

Bob S


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:03 PM, prothero--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> I have a pretty complicated application, with numerous stacks and lib stacks. 
> I’m trying to build a stand-alone but after making a bunch of progress 
> dealing with obvious errors, the standalone builder gives me an error listing 
> that I can’t figure out where to go from here. All of the stacks and text 
> only stacks are in the “Stacks” list. The app runs fine in the IDE.
> 
> I’d really appreciate it if someone would look at this error list and give me 
> some hints about where I should go from here to get an app built. There are 
> no reverences to stacks that I created in the error list, only to rev code.
> 
> I’m on Big Sur, Macintosh, LC 9.6.2 (RC-3), Business Version
> 
> Link to page 1: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1q7d3emqq8ygis/Errors-Page-1.pdf?dl=0 
> 
> Link to page 2: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc18s3gkzv92w2w/Errors-page-2.pdf?dl=0 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any insight!
> Bill
> 
> William A. Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus)
> Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org/
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Re: Help! I'm stuck

[ELS Prothero via use-livecode]

Thanks, Bob,
I tried it and got the same error message.
Tnx,
Bill

William Prothero
https://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do you have a copy of 9.6.0? Try compiling with that. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:03 PM, prothero--- via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks:
>> I have a pretty complicated application, with numerous stacks and lib 
>> stacks. I’m trying to build a stand-alone but after making a bunch of 
>> progress dealing with obvious errors, the standalone builder gives me an 
>> error listing that I can’t figure out where to go from here. All of the 
>> stacks and text only stacks are in the “Stacks” list. The app runs fine in 
>> the IDE.
>> 
>> I’d really appreciate it if someone would look at this error list and give 
>> me some hints about where I should go from here to get an app built. There 
>> are no reverences to stacks that I created in the error list, only to rev 
>> code.
>> 
>> I’m on Big Sur, Macintosh, LC 9.6.2 (RC-3), Business Version
>> 
>> Link to page 1: 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1q7d3emqq8ygis/Errors-Page-1.pdf?dl=0 
>> 
>> Link to page 2: 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc18s3gkzv92w2w/Errors-page-2.pdf?dl=0 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for any insight!
>> Bill
>> 
>> William A. Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus)
>> Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org/
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Re: Help! I'm stuck

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

i am not an expert for that kind of error message. Too much numbers i do not 
know what they mean. 
The text in the error message mentions several time revdebugger.

Are you including the RemoteDebugger to your standalone or do you have red 
breakpoints somewhere in the script which might cause this?

Sometimes it helps to close Livecode, reopen it and try to build the standalone 
again. 
But i am sure you did that already.

Regards,
Matthias
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> Am 20.03.2021 um 00:03 schrieb prothero--- via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Folks:
> I have a pretty complicated application, with numerous stacks and lib stacks. 
> I’m trying to build a stand-alone but after making a bunch of progress 
> dealing with obvious errors, the standalone builder gives me an error listing 
> that I can’t figure out where to go from here. All of the stacks and text 
> only stacks are in the “Stacks” list. The app runs fine in the IDE.
> 
> I’d really appreciate it if someone would look at this error list and give me 
> some hints about where I should go from here to get an app built. There are 
> no reverences to stacks that I created in the error list, only to rev code.
> 
> I’m on Big Sur, Macintosh, LC 9.6.2 (RC-3), Business Version
> 
> Link to page 1: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1q7d3emqq8ygis/Errors-Page-1.pdf?dl=0 
> 
> Link to page 2: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc18s3gkzv92w2w/Errors-page-2.pdf?dl=0 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any insight!
> Bill
> 
> William A. Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus)
> Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org/
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Re: Help! I'm stuck

[ELS Prothero via use-livecode]

Matthias,
I know, I don’t think I’m using the remote debugger. I’m building a standalone 
app for the computer I’m developing on, so I wouldn’t need the remote debugger. 
I have some code that is never called...I wonder if that could cause problems. 
Of course, that is the situation for libs, so I wouldn’t think that was a 
problem. I cleared all breakpoints using the development menu of the IDE, for 
all the stacks. It’s mystifying that all messages seem to come from the rev 
builder scripts, with no hint of what could be the problem.

Bill

William Prothero
https://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Mar 19, 2021, at 5:03 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> i am not an expert for that kind of error message. Too much numbers i do not 
> know what they mean. 
> The text in the error message mentions several time revdebugger.
> 
> Are you including the RemoteDebugger to your standalone or do you have red 
> breakpoints somewhere in the script which might cause this?
> 
> Sometimes it helps to close Livecode, reopen it and try to build the 
> standalone again. 
> But i am sure you did that already.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 20.03.2021 um 00:03 schrieb prothero--- via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Folks:
>> I have a pretty complicated application, with numerous stacks and lib 
>> stacks. I’m trying to build a stand-alone but after making a bunch of 
>> progress dealing with obvious errors, the standalone builder gives me an 
>> error listing that I can’t figure out where to go from here. All of the 
>> stacks and text only stacks are in the “Stacks” list. The app runs fine in 
>> the IDE.
>> 
>> I’d really appreciate it if someone would look at this error list and give 
>> me some hints about where I should go from here to get an app built. There 
>> are no reverences to stacks that I created in the error list, only to rev 
>> code.
>> 
>> I’m on Big Sur, Macintosh, LC 9.6.2 (RC-3), Business Version
>> 
>> Link to page 1: 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1q7d3emqq8ygis/Errors-Page-1.pdf?dl=0 
>> 
>> Link to page 2: 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc18s3gkzv92w2w/Errors-page-2.pdf?dl=0 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for any insight!
>> Bill
>> 
>> William A. Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus)
>> Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org/
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Re: Help! I'm stuck

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Another thing. I am not sure if your problems are also a result of the 
following, but you could giv it a try.

There was something changed in Standalonebuilder process starting  in LC 9.0 or 
so to fix a problem. But this fix could cause other problems in some situation.
While before that fix the main stacks did not receive any openstack and 
closestack messages during standalone build, now with the fixed standalone 
builder they do.
Therefore some lines of code need to be added to avoid this.

See here on page 2 for an explanation what you have to add to your openstack 
and closestack handler
https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_1/LiveCodeNotes-9_0_1_rc_1.pdf 


-
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> Am 20.03.2021 um 01:31 schrieb ELS Prothero via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> It’s mystifying that all messages seem to come from the rev builder scripts, 
> with no hint of what could be the problem.

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Re: Help! I'm stuck

[ELS Prothero via use-livecode]

Thanks, Matthias,
I’ll try it. Time for dinner, tho so it will be a bit.
Bill

William Prothero
https://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Mar 19, 2021, at 5:47 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Another thing. I am not sure if your problems are also a result of the 
> following, but you could giv it a try.
> 
> There was something changed in Standalonebuilder process starting  in LC 9.0 
> or so to fix a problem. But this fix could cause other problems in some 
> situation.
> While before that fix the main stacks did not receive any openstack and 
> closestack messages during standalone build, now with the fixed standalone 
> builder they do.
> Therefore some lines of code need to be added to avoid this.
> 
> See here on page 2 for an explanation what you have to add to your openstack 
> and closestack handler
> https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_1/LiveCodeNotes-9_0_1_rc_1.pdf 
> 
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 20.03.2021 um 01:31 schrieb ELS Prothero via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> It’s mystifying that all messages seem to come from the rev builder scripts, 
>> with no hint of what could be the problem.
> 
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Re: Android commissions (JeeJeeStudio)

[Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via use-livecode]

> Note that this can take a long while, perhaps a very long while

I’m just excited to increase my earning potential by 15% in 6 months at the 2 
app stores, all by doing absolutely nothing myself (thanks Epic Games for 
scaring big tech!). 

After having a paid app in the stores for a few years I just released my first 
mobile project with In-app purchases this month so I plan on nudging this along 
through Bugzilla. Feel free to add yourself as a CC to the bug! 
[shameless plug]
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23116 
 

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Re: LC Bug: Copying an Image fails

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Bob:

> MS Office copy operations are notoriously problematic.
> Microsoft maintains their own clipboard format, so that when
> switching to another product the clipboard must be translated.
> Other apps may do the same.
> The translation does not always go to plan.

Eh ... I think this is a more useful current summary:

1. The Windows blank pasted image bug was about a data stream pointer.
Thanks to the LC Team for looking into that; hope it's merged sooner.

2. There's a crash for some copied image data. Not just MS Office.

3. Mac has image copy/paste troubles too. Also not just MS Office.
I'll report that soon, and we'll probably see improvement.

4. There are dozens of issues with copied content being converted in LC.
I'm crushing many of those with workarounds, so improvement there too!

Is copy/paste between apps effortless? No.
Do users expect it? Yes.
Even with the most popular apps? Of course!
There are problems, but also progress

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
"Better Methods, Better Results"
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