Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Tiemo via use-livecode
Hello, LC 9.6.1 macOS 11.2.3 when trying to close and remove a file from memory I get the known window "really remove the stack file stack?" with the options "cancel" & "OK" Both options are non responsible, nothing happens. I still can navigate thru the file menu (with the above dialog

the systemversion shows wrong version # on Mac

2021-05-07 Thread Tiemo via use-livecode
Hello, I am on macOS 11.2.3 and the systemversion shows 10.16.0? It shows the same at least going back to 8.1.7 Do I have to multiply the systemversion by 1.1053 to get the real one? Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: the systemversion shows wrong version # on Mac

2021-05-07 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Tiemo, This is not a bug. MacOS Big Sur will identify itself as both 10.16.0 and 11.x. This is by design so that scripts checking for version compatibility can see Big Sur as just a minor version of 10.x The version seen depends on both which SDK was used to compile the app, and also on the

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Panos: > If I remember correctly, this happened on Big Sur only, > and it is fixed in LC 9.6.2 rc-X No way. Hangs have become a defining feature of the LC experience. They are quite common on both Mac and PC in various situations. I'm not disputing that you fixed "something" recently.

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Tiemo: > Only a hard close via task manager > is the only option to quit the engine That has become a defining feature of the LC experience. Hangs are quite common on both Mac and PC in various situations. > Is it something about my stack what makes > the engine hang, or do you also >

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Are you trying to remove a substack? I'm not sure you can do that. Substacks are always in memory until the mainstack is closed. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On May 7, 2021 4:08:19 AM Tiemo via use-livecode wrote:

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello all, If I remember correctly, this happened on Big Sur only, and it is fixed in LC 9.6.2 rc-X Cheers, Panos On Fri, 7 May 2021, 18:52 J. Landman Gay via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Are you trying to remove a substack? I'm not sure you can do that. > Substacks

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Tiemo, I have also seen this weirdness, I don’t think it’s just your computer. Rick > On May 7, 2021, at 5:04 AM, Tiemo via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > LC 9.6.1 macOS 11.2.3 > > > > when trying to close and remove a file from memory I get the known window > "really

Re: the systemversion shows wrong version # on Mac

2021-05-07 Thread Phil Davis via use-livecode
If you want the actual macOS system version, you can use the 'sw_vers' shell command. phils-macbook-pro:~ pdslabs2$ sw_vers -productVersion 10.15.7 or phils-macbook-pro:~ pdslabs2$ sw_vers ProductName:    Mac OS X ProductVersion:    10.15.7 BuildVersion:    19H1030

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Panos: > What Tiemo described sounded like this issue > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22896 > - so if this is the > case, this bug is very specific to Big Sur, > and it is fixed in LC 9.6.2 RC-1+. Hi Panos, I'm not disputing that you recently addressed a specific Hang. But you

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Matthias: > I did not had any hang/freeze. Hi Matthias, Good for you! Perhaps you work with fewer projects, or fewer LC areas. Anyway, you and I are obviously not doing the exact same work, right? So count your blessings. Every hang does have a trigger and a cause. No trigger = no hang.

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello Curry, What Tiemo described sounded like this issue https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22896 - so if this is the case, this bug is very specific to Big Sur, and it is fixed in LC 9.6.2 RC-1+. Kind regards, Panos -- On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 19:19, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <

Re: 9.6.0 simulator issue

2021-05-07 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Hi Mike, I have seen this problem as well, rebooted, reloaded everything and it worked. You might want to try that. Simulator first, then load the app and try the Test button. Mark > On May 7, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > Since 9.6.2 is giving me issues, I

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Matthias: > I just wrote about my observations and asked for a recipe. ... > If you felt that as "doubt" then i am really sorry. No worries! I also apologize if I've misread your message. It's probably a "Good Thing" anyway that we've had some exchange, because it brings more attention to

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I have the same experience. I routinely run 3 versions of LC simultaneously with different stacks and projects in each. I've left them all running for weeks at a time without any issues (I don't shut down my Mac unless there's an OS update that requires a restart.) I don't doubt at all that the

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
Paypal account or not, if Matthias is a bot we need to figure out how to spawn more instances. -- Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web https://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com booth1-360-734-4701

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Scott: > Paypal account or not, if Matthias is a bot we need to > figure out how to spawn more instances. That's no problem; we can hack into the server and "borrow" the Matthias source code. But I don't know what kind of hardware he requires. ;) (Again, for any who did not understand the

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Dear Curry, just to make clear, i've never wrote that i doubted your observations. I just wrote about my observations and asked for a recipe. Not to proof you wrong, but to see if i could replicate and to see if there is something in common, because that maybe would help the Livecode team to

Re: Updated version of the SignNotarizeHelper stack available

2021-05-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hi again, i've just uploaded a quick overview / diagram about the different ways/methods to notarize an app. If your time allows, i would be very happy if some of you could have a quick look and tell me, if the overview is clear enough and complete or if there is something missing.

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Jacqueline: > I routinely run 3 versions of LC simultaneously > with different stacks and projects in each. > I've left them all running for weeks at a time without any issues That's pretty scary; your habits are much like mine! That's how I work. I have two LCs minimized today, and each has

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 5/7/21 6:39 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: More moderate: An LC print bug won't bother people who never print. Being on linux, I'd love to have print bugs. https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21131 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

9.6.0 simulator issue

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Since 9.6.2 is giving me issues, I decided to try the simulator in 9.6.0. That is giving me "Unable to start simulator: 634,0,0,unknown C++ exception 573,263,1,revPhoneSetSimulatorSDK" -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the

Updated version of the SignNotarizeHelper stack available

2021-05-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Dear all, i have uploaded an updated version of my SignNotarizeHelper stack. I've added package installer support. So it's now also possible to create, sign and notarize a .pkg So now all combinations should be possible: - Sign & Notarize App - Sign & Notarize App - Sign & Notarize App - Sign

9.6.2 rc5/xcode 12.1 ipad simulator

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm getting an error when trying to fire up the simulator: "Booting available device failed with error: Boot a device" In case I was missing a simulator, I fired up XC and then made sure that the ios simulator for 14.0 was installed, but no joy. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and

Re: 9.6.0 simulator issue

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
otay, let's see: quitting LC and restarting seems to get it over the hump. On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:41 PM Mike Kerner wrote: > what do you mean - reloaded as in reinstalled xcode or just restarted LC? > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:39 PM Mark Smith via use-livecode < >

Re: the systemversion shows wrong version # on Mac

2021-05-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello all, Yeap, what Phil said: function mySystemVersion get shell("sw_vers -productVersion") return it end mySystemVersion This will return 11.2.3 on a Mac running Big Sur 11.2.3 See https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22887 Cheers, Panos -- On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 19:43, Phil

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Am 07.05.2021 um 21:18 schrieb Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > : > > > Matthias: > > > I did not had any hang/freeze. > > > That's good to hear! I have a similar approach to unconfirmed data: > I've never seen Matthias, but I don't rule out his existence either. :) > Believe me i am

making transparent pdf output

2021-05-07 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
I’m finally getting back to work on this project. The first thing I need to do is figure out how to make livecode pdf output transparent. A page of one will be mostly fields with transparent backgrounds. But when I pint to pdf, the background of the card, supposedly transparent, renders as

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Curry, i am working on macOS 10.14.6 and i cannot remember that i had any "unspecified" hangs/freezes in LC the last weeks or months. I had 2 or 3 hangs when i tested some code that used tsNET, but those hangs were caused more by my code and not by LC. ;) But no hangs when i was just coding or

Re: 9.6.0 simulator issue

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
what do you mean - reloaded as in reinstalled xcode or just restarted LC? On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:39 PM Mark Smith via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I have seen this problem as well, rebooted, reloaded everything and it > worked. You might want to try that.

Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

2021-05-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Matthias: > Believe me i am real. I purchased every library > you've created in the past, so i must be real. Not necessarily! You could be a "bot" with a Paypal account. But I am not prejudiced; human or not, you're a valued customer. :) And so hopefully you see, and understand, what I'm