[OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-20 Thread Chipp Walters
For those of you interested in Google's new, and fascinating Chromebook, here's my first thoughts after spending the weekend with one: http://blog.chipp.com/chromebook-first-impressions/ -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___

[OT] Interesting user interface HIG piece

2011-06-20 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Hans Kwint has posted a very interesting article on LXer, which expresses what I've often thought but never expressed so clearly, about ease of use and ease of learning. Lots of very illuminating examples and some discussion of Gnome 3 and KDE4 but also discussion of Autocad in this context.

Re: [ANN] New custom control Circular Slider

2011-06-20 Thread René Micout
Ken, I will study the section Developer info of your site http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/other.irev; and I would ask if I need help ... Thank you René Le 18 juin 2011 à 16:18, Ken Ray a écrit : A new little custom control for Macintosh (Windows Linux also, I suppose...) on revOnline :

Re: LC error messages

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/19/11 10:21 PM, Slava Paperno wrote: Where are the LC error messages listed, please? See errordialog in the dictionary, where it says: *** Comments: Standard error descriptions are stored in the cErrorsList of the first card of stack revErrorDisplay. The error-code

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-20 Thread stephen barncard
Excellent and thorough review, Chip. thanks. On 20 June 2011 02:00, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: For those of you interested in Google's new, and fascinating Chromebook, here's my first thoughts after spending the weekend with one: http://blog.chipp.com/chromebook-first-impressions/

[ANN] MobGUI web site

2011-06-20 Thread John Craig
MobGUI is a plugin for quickly creating mobile prototypes and apps with LiveCode Version 0.05 is now available for download on http://mobgui.com Development is now paused so I can catch up with documentation - which shouldn't take too long. Thanks again to everyone who has tested and sent

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: For those of you interested in Google's new, and fascinating Chromebook, here's my first thoughts after spending the weekend with one: http://blog.chipp.com/chromebook-first-impressions/ Good read, Chipp. Thanks for posting that. On this item from your post: There

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
I have mixed feelings about chromebooks. I tend to place them in the same category of netbooks and then they lose the competition but I know they are a whole different thing with a different purpose. I just think they should be cheaper. $250 would be the right price for an online appliance like

Re: do statements and value function

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Bonner wrote: Say you have an unspecified number of things you want to put into their own variables (yeah, I know, use an array, but for example purposes arrays don't exist) So, if you want to put each line of a random number of lines into its very own variable, this is where the example

Re: Unicode text in custom properties

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Slava Paperno wrote: Has anyone successfully stored and retrieved non-Roman text using a custom property? Is my syntax wrong? get the cDefaultText of field MyField set the unicodeText of field MyField to it This may be helpful or it may be a red herring, but FWIW I've had robust,

RE: [ANN] MobGUI web site

2011-06-20 Thread John Dixon
Well done... very nice piece of kit..:-) LiveCode should have these controls as part of the tool palette ! MobGUI is a plugin for quickly creating mobile prototypes and apps with LiveCode Version 0.05 is now available for download on http://mobgui.com Development is now paused so I can

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-20 Thread Roger Eller
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: For those of you interested in Google's new, and fascinating Chromebook, here's my first thoughts after spending the weekend with one:

Standalone shutting down cleanly on Windows

2011-06-20 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I have a standalone that's supposed to perform various tasks when it exits. I thought it was doing so, but having recently changed the hardware it's running on, there's now an error on shutting the machine down which we've traced to my app not doing these tasks. The app consists of a

Re: do statements and value function

2011-06-20 Thread Mike Bonner
. Think the OP was asking about what do can do vs the other mentioned options, so I was pointing out something do could do with its vudu, but I'd use arrays too, just like you, oops gotta run, I'm overdue. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Mike

Re: Standalone shutting down cleanly on Windows

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Ben, You must handle the shutdownRequest and the closeStackRequest messages. on closeStackRequest quitMyProject end loseStackRequest on shutdownRequest quitMyProject end shutdownrequest You can find the quitMyProject script here http://qery.us/tg Note that you might need to remove the

Re: the mouseText and Unicode: CONCLUSION

2011-06-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Sure, but then I would be multi-talented. :-) Bob On Jun 19, 2011, at 2:45 AM, BNig wrote: I don't speak many languages but can make-up the noise of many, does that count as multlingual? :) ___ use-livecode mailing list

[ANN] new version of Spinning Wheel (custom control Macintosh OS X)

2011-06-20 Thread René Micout
Hello everybody, RevOnline New version of Spinning Wheel : Version 1.1 (revision 3) 20 juin 2011 (06/20/2011) Ajout de la version noire du Spinning Wheel + amélioration de la portabilité. Add black version of Spinning Wheel + improved portability Bon souvenir de Paris René

Re: Standalone shutting down cleanly on Windows

2011-06-20 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Hi Mark, Thanks for your reply; but I added code to handle, log, and pass both those... makes no difference. In the case that I shutdown Windows, it appears that the app does not receive any messages: not shutdownRequest, not closeStackRequest, not shutDown, not closeStack. Is there any

RE: [OT] MultiMailer software

2011-06-20 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Does anyone of you have experience with software to send newsletters to a list of 1000+ email addresses? I tried to write something myself, but I'm afraid servers will falsely recognize me as a spammer if I make my own software for this. Any recommendations? I use GroupMail 5

Re: [OT] MultiMailer software

2011-06-20 Thread Pete
I'd strongly recommend against sending out 1000+ emails from your personal computer on a regular basis. Even if your ISP allows it, it's likely that you will fall foul of the various internet police blacklist sites and getting yourself off those lists is a huge undertaking. And yes, I speak from

mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Hello :), Using RevEnterprise 4.0, I have a mouseDoubleUp handler that I ended up placing into a data grid table. on mouseDoubleUp pMouseBtnNum if pMouseBtnNum is 1 then editPayment send PopulatePaymentGrid to this stack in 2 milliseconds end if if pMouseBtnNum is 3 then

[OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
http://code.google.com/p/openxion/ XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Andrew, Probably, the answer is that the datagrid has the hcBehavior set to true. I'm not sure that you can turn this off without breaking the datagrid. The solution is to put check the target, but maybe you figured that out yourself already :-) Btw, I would write if pMouseBtnNum is 1

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-20 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 6/20/2011 3:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: http://code.google.com/p/openxion/ XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Dupuis wrote: On 6/20/2011 3:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: http://code.google.com/p/openxion/ XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution. I'd like to know if RunRev has any involvement with this Open Source initiative or what

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Andre, I think the Chromebook really competes well with EPCDs (Everday Portable Computing Devices) like iPad more than a notebook. I understand it's a direct competitor to netbooks, but it has more of a full notebook computer experience as far as speed and display go. It truly is larger than a

Re: [OT] MultiMailer software

2011-06-20 Thread stephen barncard
And for instance, many ISPs such as Dreamhost have special panels for mail lists that provide safeguards against being flagged, such as opt-in and out etc with the mandatory discaimers. I would suggest something like that. On 20 June 2011 13:22, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: I'd strongly

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 06/21/2011 12:25 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: On 6/20/2011 3:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: http://code.google.com/p/openxion/ XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution. I'd like to know if RunRev has any involvement with this Open

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
http://www.openxion.org/faq.html What? No GUI, no IDE. Are you serious? You are correct. There is no IDE or GUI, and yes, we are very serious! Many of us think that the command line and any simple text editor are the most productive and trouble-free environments for programming. Well, one

Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Chipp Walters
As it appears more and more companies are starting to focus on HTML5 app delivery, thus bypassing all sorts of App Stores (see: http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/15/facebook-project-spartan/ AND excuse reference to an MG Siegler written article! ;-). This seems on the surface like a pretty decent

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-20 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 6/20/2011 6:10 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 06/21/2011 12:25 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: On 6/20/2011 3:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: http://code.google.com/p/openxion/ XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution. I'd like to

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I went to go and check the target, but I get various answers for the target depending on which column a user clicks on the datagrid. One on datagrid with this problem I get no target being output at all (very bizzare). Also, is hcBehavior a property? I tried looking it up in the dictionary but

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Paul Looney
Phil Davis? On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: As it appears more and more companies are starting to focus on HTML5 app delivery, thus bypassing all sorts of App Stores (see: http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/15/facebook-project-spartan/ AND excuse reference to an MG Siegler

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Pete
I think it's correct that the target would be different for each column, at least that's how I've seen it work in my datagrids. That allows you to determine which column the user double-clicked on if you care, for example if you ant to allow editing of some columns but not others. Unfortunately,

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Phil Davis
On 6/20/11 4:30 PM, Paul Looney wrote: Phil Davis? Naaah - I know the guy pretty well and he's not up to the task. Maybe... Tereza Snyder? Phil Davis On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: As it appears more and more companies are starting to focus on HTML5 app delivery,

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Chipp Walters
I guess I'm not as concerned who codes it at this point, but rather is it something needed? And if so, what are the challenges? Andre once started on a javascript compiler for Rev, so he may know more about this. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: On 6/20/11

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- Monday, June 20, 2011, 3:21:56 PM, you wrote: It seems to me it would be a good idea for LC or someone else to evaluate what it takes to export to HTML5. Don't know about HTML5 (and maybe Andre can step in and say something here as well), but having spent way too much time on rev-HTML

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: Chipp- Monday, June 20, 2011, 3:21:56 PM, you wrote: It seems to me it would be a good idea for LC or someone else to evaluate what it takes to export to HTML5. Don't know about HTML5 (and maybe Andre can step

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Andrew Kluthe
The handler is only in the datagrid script and the datagrid is a background control that appears on multiple cards in this stack. I have it working, but the solution is just to check the target for anything resembling a column in the datagrid. It is ugly and inefficient, but it works. If anyone

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Well, I talked with Chris. He said he remembers years ago someone built or started to build a language tree parser for Rev so they could transcode Transcript to another language. Once a Transcript language parser is created, you can move it to other languages-- or so the theory goes. Chris

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Perhaps it's wise to consider an oft-quoted famous statement by Wayne Gretzky, I don't skate to where the puck is. I skate to where it's going to be. Let's count the number of OS'es now in need of support from multi plaftform IDEs: 1. MacOS Tiger, Lion and who knows what previous versions

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Chipp Walters
I should have said Google just end-of-life support for IE 7 in Google Apps, include Gmail. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Perhaps it's wise to consider an oft-quoted famous statement by Wayne Gretzky, I don't skate to where the puck is. I skate to where

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Chipp, I tried that but I couldn't build the language tree parser, so I started coding from the other point, assuming there would be a parser, I started coding the javascript parts to be used by the parser/converter once it was done but when I lost my HD I lost basically everything. Both my main

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: The handler is only in the datagrid script and the datagrid is a background control that appears on multiple cards in this stack. Background group scripts are inserted into the message for all controls on the card which

Re: [ANN] MobGUI web site

2011-06-20 Thread Ken Ray
Agreed! BTW: I added MobGUI to the Other Controls page at the DropTools site; you may want to notify the LiveCode forums if you haven't already... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

Re: do statements and value function

2011-06-20 Thread Timothy Miller
Okay, I get it now. Nice little essay, Jacque! Many thanks to Jacque and others on this thread. Tim On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:48 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/19/11 4:10 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Is it true that the do command and the value function perform about the same tasks in different

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Ahhh ok, how do I stop that without having to duplicate datagrids? Impossible? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/mouseDoubleUp-issues-tp3612079p3613108.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/20/11 6:25 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I went to go and check the target, but I get various answers for the target depending on which column a user clicks on the datagrid. One on datagrid with this problem I get no target being output at all (very bizzare). Also, is hcBehavior a property? I

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-20 Thread Andrew Kluthe
It looks like the rest of the problem is solved already. Unfortunately, no. I have a slightly messier solution in place, but I'd like to keep the datagrid as a background without having to catch and examine the target. -- View this message in context:

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Hi Chipp, You bring up some interesting points. But still, in my opinion, HTML5 is (as of now) too limited. In spite of everything Apple is trying to say about it, it is not a standard. And considering the approach it is taking, it never will be. What I mean is that there is still room to add

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, I just can't resist, this thread is just too good. Here is a movie I just recorded: http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.mp4 http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.webm As I said, the trick is to start by thinking that you are building a web page, not a stack. In this little