Re: [OT] what RGB is blue?

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Clarke
...I see it Colin - but then, I have astigmatism, where everything viewed is 
distorted and even with spectacles the brain has an ongoing job to recalibrate 
the 'seen' against known patterns.
Best,
Keith..

On 11 Jul 2011, at 02:49, Colin Holgate wrote:

 Don't zoom in on the image, just view it at normal size, then you may see 
 what  I mean.
 On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
 
 Colin,
 
 I only see a diagonal lines in different shades of blue and a peanut with 
 three legs and two eyes. How many images, you say?
 
 --
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Schonewille
 
 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
 KvK: 50277553
 
 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for LiveCode here 
 http://qery.us/ce
 
 On 11 jul 2011, at 02:18, Colin Holgate wrote:
 
 Here's an interesting optical illusion:
 
 http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/images/diagonals.jpg
 
 Notice how the images seems to be slanted slightly, and even appears to go 
 into the browser window chrome.
 
 
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How to test if an image is empty?

2011-07-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

when I put empty into img foo the imagedata of img foo is still not
empty, there are still any binary data in the image.

I can't test if the imagedata of img foo is empty nor can I test if the
img foo is empty. How can I test if I have put empty into an image? Can I
test it binary?

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

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Re: Anyone A Guru With RevBrowser ?

2011-07-11 Thread Scott Rossi
Yes, well, that might work for me, but I don't think I can tell the client
to force everyone else with a similar setup.  The problem has something to
do with the way RevBrowser interacts with IE.  In IE, Javascript errors are
silently indicated via an icon in the status portion of the browser --
perhaps it can't find settings to control this under RevBrowser so it throws
up a standard error dialog.

Plus, I've tried everything I can think of to exit the browser when clicking
a logout link, but it still refuses to shutdown unless clicking a native
LiveCode button.

Really wish I could find some solutions so I don't have to tell the client
to forget it.  Oh well.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design




Recently, Chipp Walters wrote:

 Scott,
 
 You might want to make sure you're using an updated version of IE on
 Windows.
 
 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:
 
 More RevBrowser weirdness...
 
 While testing the running of a Web app in a RevBrowser stack on Vista, any
 page that contains Javascript errors causes an IE script error window to
 appear...  WTF?  How can this be disabled or at least handled?
 
 Thanks for any advice.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi



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Re: How to test if an image is empty?

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Tiemo,

To make an image object really empty, set its text to empty, rather than the 
imagedata. Now, 'img x is empty' should return true.

--
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On 11 jul 2011, at 11:39, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

 Hello,
 
 when I put empty into img foo the imagedata of img foo is still not
 empty, there are still any binary data in the image.
 
 I can't test if the imagedata of img foo is empty nor can I test if the
 img foo is empty. How can I test if I have put empty into an image? Can I
 test it binary?
 
 Thanks
 
 Tiemo


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getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-11 Thread planix
Hi,

I have just discovered, after numerous changes of my operating system
(finally settled on Ubuntu) for various reasons, that I have deleted (doh!)
my latest version of an application that I was working on. I did do backups
and archive and all the rest but these files were worked on in a rush and I
obviously forgot to put them where they needed to be for capture (damn and
blast). I usually also print out a hard copy of the scripts that I am
writing but, wouldn't you know it, I didn't do that this time.

I do, however, have a windows exe file of the last version which I (happily
enough) emailed to a student to use in his project. I bet you can see where
this is going. Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward (not
necessarily simple) way of reverse engineering the exe file so that I can
get at the scripts?

cheers

Alistair Campbell
Townsville 

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AW: How to test if an image is empty?

2011-07-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Thanks Mark and Scott,
the text ... hmm, not the first to think about with an image :)
Thanks for your quick response
Tiemo

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 Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-
 boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Scott Rossi
 Gesendet: Montag, 11. Juli 2011 11:48
 An: LiveCode Mail List
 Betreff: Re: How to test if an image is empty?
 
 Recently, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
  when I put empty into img foo the imagedata of img foo is still not
  empty, there are still any binary data in the image.
 
  I can't test if the imagedata of img foo is empty nor can I test if
the
  img foo is empty. How can I test if I have put empty into an image?
Can I
  test it binary?
 
 To truly empty an image, I set the text property of the image to empty,
 and also check that property to make sure it's empty.
 
   return (the text of img 1 is empty)
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX Design
 
 
 
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Re: Question for Trevor DeVore

2011-07-11 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:

 Do you foresee  any undesirable side effects from storing other, custom,
 column properties within the datagrid in the same way? For example - set
 the
 mydgColumnProperty[Col1] of datagridRef to xyz


No. Just don't prefix it with dg. That way there is no chance of a naming
conflict going forward.

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Re: getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Kann
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Programming/textscan/Freeware.htm

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, planix dr.alist...@gmail.com wrote:

From: planix dr.alist...@gmail.com
Subject: getting from exe to Livecode
To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:53 AM

Hi,

I have just discovered, after numerous changes of my operating system
(finally settled on Ubuntu) for various reasons, that I have deleted (doh!)
my latest version of an application that I was working on. I did do backups
and archive and all the rest but these files were worked on in a rush and I
obviously forgot to put them where they needed to be for capture (damn and
blast). I usually also print out a hard copy of the scripts that I am
writing but, wouldn't you know it, I didn't do that this time.

I do, however, have a windows exe file of the last version which I (happily
enough) emailed to a student to use in his project. I bet you can see where
this is going. Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward (not
necessarily simple) way of reverse engineering the exe file so that I can
get at the scripts?

cheers

Alistair Campbell
Townsville 

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Re: Anyone A Guru With RevBrowser ?

2011-07-11 Thread Chipp Walters
I take it you've tried send in time on your before navigate handler, to give 
the handler time to finish before trying to shut it down?

Chipp Walters
CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc

On Jul 11, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 Yes, well, that might work for me, but I don't think I can tell the client
 to force everyone else with a similar setup.  The problem has something to
 do with the way RevBrowser interacts with IE.  In IE, Javascript errors are
 silently indicated via an icon in the status portion of the browser --
 perhaps it can't find settings to control this under RevBrowser so it throws
 up a standard error dialog.
 
 Plus, I've tried everything I can think of to exit the browser when clicking
 a logout link, but it still refuses to shutdown unless clicking a native
 LiveCode button.
 
 Really wish I could find some solutions so I don't have to tell the client
 to forget it.  Oh well.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX Design
 
 
 
 
 Recently, Chipp Walters wrote:
 
 Scott,
 
 You might want to make sure you're using an updated version of IE on
 Windows.
 
 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:
 
 More RevBrowser weirdness...
 
 While testing the running of a Web app in a RevBrowser stack on Vista, any
 page that contains Javascript errors causes an IE script error window to
 appear...  WTF?  How can this be disabled or at least handled?
 
 Thanks for any advice.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 
 
 
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Re: AW: How to test if an image is empty?

2011-07-11 Thread Ken Ray
 Thanks Mark and Scott,
 the text ... hmm, not the first to think about with an image :)

If it helps, Tiemo, you can use this:

  put  into image 1

and 

  if image 1 is empty then...

The text property is implied in the same was as for fields (put field 1 
into.. vs. put the text of field 1 into...).

Here's a good way to think about images: there's a distinction between the 
actual image binary data and what is used to show the user what the image 
currently looks like (including scaling, rotation, rendering in various quality 
levels, the paintCompression, etc.). The binary data is the image's 
*contents* (the 'text' of the image in this case), and what is shown to the 
user is the 'imageData'+'maskData'+'alphaData' (which I'll just call image 
data). If you empty out the image data, the binary data still exists - all 
you've done is to say (in effect) don't show this image to the user, or more 
accurately: show blank to the user.

You can have binary data without image data but not the other way around; once 
you set the image data of an image, the binary data is *created* to support the 
image data you set. This can be very useful in keeping a scaled version of an 
image in a stack without holding on to all the extra weight of the original 
image. 

So for example, if you imported a 100K image that was 1000 x 1000 pixels and 
then scaled it down to 100 x 100 (and set the lockLoc to true so it doesn't 
pop back to its original size), the user would see 100 x 100 pixels of image 
data, but the image would be storing 1000 x 1000 pixels of binary data. 
However, if you created a new blank 100 x 100 image an then executed:

   set the imageData of img 2 to the imageData of img 1
   set the alphaData of img 2 to the alphaData of img 1
   set the maskData of img 2 to the maskData of img 1

the binary data for img 2 would only be what is necessary to support what the 
user sees (100 x 100 pixels). It would look exactly like image 1, but would be 
only 1% of the original number of pixels and would only take up 1K instead of 
100K. You could then delete image 1 and you'd have exactly what you started 
with but storing a bunch less space.

This is great for working with thumbnails of full-resolution images; of course 
if you *need* to keep the full-res image around because the image might scale 
*up* from 100x100 to 1000x1000 (or any size in between) then you want to work 
with the full-res image and not make a cheap copy, but you get the idea.

I have a very old (but still mostly accurate) primer on imageData, alphaData, 
and maskData here:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/imag003.htm

Hope this helps,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  



 Thanks for your quick response
 Tiemo
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-
 boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Scott Rossi
 Gesendet: Montag, 11. Juli 2011 11:48
 An: LiveCode Mail List
 Betreff: Re: How to test if an image is empty?
 
 Recently, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
 when I put empty into img foo the imagedata of img foo is still not
 empty, there are still any binary data in the image.
 
 I can't test if the imagedata of img foo is empty nor can I test if
 the
 img foo is empty. How can I test if I have put empty into an image?
 Can I
 test it binary?
 
 To truly empty an image, I set the text property of the image to empty,
 and also check that property to make sure it's empty.
 
  return (the text of img 1 is empty)
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX Design
 
 
 
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Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone,

Have any of you received this message from Heather?  Implications?

Gregory


 Dear Gregory Lypny,
 
 I need to inform you that over the weekend we experienced an attack on our 
 customer database. Although we caught this very quickly I regret that some 
 information may have been compromised. A small number of accounts were 
 affected, unfortunately yours was one of them.
 
 The information concerned includes your name, email address, on-rev username 
 and the server you are hosted on. It does not include your password, or any 
 postal address or billing information. This information alone does not 
 represent a security risk. However, if you have any concerns at all that your 
 password for your on-rev account is not secure, you should change it 
 immediately. cPanel offers a secure password generator that includes numbers 
 and punctuation in a random string, we strongly advise you use this service.
 
 We deeply regret this breach of our security procedures.  We felt it 
 important to inform you of it as quickly as possible as a precautionary 
 measure.
 
 We have already traced and fixed the exploit that made this possible and can 
 assure you that the same error will not happen again in the future.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Heather Nagey
 Customer Services Manager
 http://www.runrev.com/
 LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Rombauts
I did too...

Le 11 juil. 2011 à 15:34, Gregory Lypny a écrit :

 Hello everyone,
 
 Have any of you received this message from Heather?  Implications?
 
 Gregory
 
 
 Dear Gregory Lypny,
 


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread René Micout
Yes, I changed my password... in case...

Le 11 juil. 2011 à 15:34, Gregory Lypny a écrit :

 Hello everyone,
 
 Have any of you received this message from Heather?  Implications?
 
 Gregory
 
 
 Dear Gregory Lypny,
 
 I need to inform you that over the weekend we experienced an attack on our 
 customer database. Although we caught this very quickly I regret that some 
 information may have been compromised. A small number of accounts were 
 affected, unfortunately yours was one of them.
 
 The information concerned includes your name, email address, on-rev username 
 and the server you are hosted on. It does not include your password, or any 
 postal address or billing information. This information alone does not 
 represent a security risk. However, if you have any concerns at all that 
 your password for your on-rev account is not secure, you should change it 
 immediately. cPanel offers a secure password generator that includes numbers 
 and punctuation in a random string, we strongly advise you use this service.
 
 We deeply regret this breach of our security procedures.  We felt it 
 important to inform you of it as quickly as possible as a precautionary 
 measure.
 
 We have already traced and fixed the exploit that made this possible and can 
 assure you that the same error will not happen again in the future.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Heather Nagey
 Customer Services Manager
 http://www.runrev.com/
 LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Kerner
Not yet I haven't, which is curious to me.


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[ANN] Update 3 custom controls on RevOnLine

2011-07-11 Thread René Micout
New versions of 3 custom controls on RevOnline :

Circular Slider Store: version 1.1 (revision 2)
- Replace copy-paste by Drag and Drop.
- Remove bug under Windows (0 millisecs)  thank you SparkOut (Simon).

Spinner Store: version 1.2 (revision 4)
- Changing name: Spinner Store.
- Add 12 types of spinner.
- Add drag and drop.

HUD Panel Factory: version 1.6 (revision 7)
simplifying interface and adding drag and drop and direct resizing.

Bon souvenir de Paris
René
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Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread René Micout
I made an inventory of missing Mac OS X controls, see list below :
1. Round button
2. • Textured button  
http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
3. ◊ Recessed button  I have a project on it
4. ◊ Disclosure button  I have a project on it
5. • Gradient button  http://www.buttongadget.com (?)
6. • Rounded rect button  
http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
7. • Rounded textured button  
http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
8. ◊ Help button  I have a project on it
9. • Bevel button  http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ 
(?)
10. ◊ Radio button  size mini  I work on it
11. ◊ Check box  size mini  I work on it
12. ◊ Stepper  size mini  I work on it
13. Date picker
14. Segmented control
15. • Search field  http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/all.irev
16. Token field
17. • Image Well  http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/all.irev
18. Color well
19. ◊ Slider (vertical and horizontal)  size : small and mini  I work on it
20. ◊ Circular slider  I have a project on it
21. • Circular progress indicator  
http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/440/Spinning-wheel
22. Vertical and horizontal split view
23. • HUD panel  http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/574/HUD-Panel-Factory
24. Puff of smoke animation
25. Answer font
26. Toolbar and his items (separator toolbar, print toolbar item, show color 
toolbar item, show font toolbar item, customize toolbar item, search toolbar 
item).
Some have their custom control... But not all... Is my list up to date, 
incomplete or wrong?
Thank you by advance...
René
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Kann
Mike,
Not everyone's data got hacked.
Mike

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote:

From: Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:08 AM

Not yet I haven't, which is curious to me.


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Kerner
So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It doesn't
make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records
compromised but others do not?


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Kann
Mike,
You make a good point. I bought the lifetime membership so perhaps my info is 
in a different pile than yours. I was more concerned that any data was 
obtainable from the outside at all.
Mike

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote:

From: Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:44 AM

So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It doesn't
make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records
compromised but others do not?


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On the second day, God created the oceans.
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 07/11/2011 05:44 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:

So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It doesn't
make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records
compromised but others do not?


I wonder if RunRev don't have 2 databases (say, an older one with 
longer-term customers, and a newer one with newer customers), and 1 got 
hacked ???


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Nonsanity
I think it's more likely that someone found a way to query user information
from the database, and started doing so, probably with some automation. The
culprit was noticed by the unusual activity before they hit on every record
in the DB.

It's highly unlikely that someone managed to just download the whole DB.

 ~ Chris Innanen
 ~ Nonsanity


On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It doesn't
 make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records
 compromised but others do not?


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It doesn't
 make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records
 compromised but others do not?


The original poster did not include the subject of the email that RunRev
sent out.

Important information about your on-Rev hosting account

Only user information for on-Rev accounts was obtained.

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Jeff Massung
I would just like to say that I haven't been an On-Rev customer for over a
year now, and I want to thank the Rev team for still including me in this
email (so, yes, I got one, too).

Jeff M.
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Jim Ault

and now my password is 127.5 characters long...
OK, I am not that paranoid, but I did make a change for On-Rev
(and the On-Rev forums just in case, even though it is a separate  
entity.  No need to have spam hit that server require the moderators  
to do extra work.)


Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:
So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It  
doesn't
make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their  
records

compromised but others do not?


The original poster did not include the subject of the email that  
RunRev

sent out.
Important information about your on-Rev hosting account
Only user information for on-Rev accounts was obtained.







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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin

Michael Kann wrote:

 I was more concerned that any data was obtainable from the outside
 at all.

A concern, but not a surprise, given the range of software components 
that comprise modern web apps.  I think it speaks well of the RunRev 
that passwords weren't compromised.


Oddly enough I was writing this morning's post to the LiveCode Journal 
blog about security when this thread showed up here.  The post includes 
a couple helpful links, the best one being to a recent report of the 25 
Most Dangerous Software Errors:


http://livecodejournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1310397018.990871

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/11/11 9:44 AM, Mike Kerner wrote:

So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It doesn't
make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records
compromised but others do not?


It may be significant that not all accounts are on the same server.

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Marian Petrides
I am an On-Rev lifetime subscriber but don't recall getting this message.  So 
it must be something else, I guess.

On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

 I have received it. It's probably legit. I don't see any links to a site to 
 authenticate, so what would anyone gain by telling you to change your 
 password? 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Have any of you received this message from Heather?  Implications?
 
 Gregory
 
 
 Dear Gregory Lypny,
 
 I need to inform you that over the weekend we experienced an attack on our 
 customer database. Although we caught this very quickly I regret that some 
 information may have been compromised. A small number of accounts were 
 affected, unfortunately yours was one of them.
 
 The information concerned includes your name, email address, on-rev 
 username and the server you are hosted on. It does not include your 
 password, or any postal address or billing information. This information 
 alone does not represent a security risk. However, if you have any concerns 
 at all that your password for your on-rev account is not secure, you should 
 change it immediately. cPanel offers a secure password generator that 
 includes numbers and punctuation in a random string, we strongly advise you 
 use this service.
 
 We deeply regret this breach of our security procedures.  We felt it 
 important to inform you of it as quickly as possible as a precautionary 
 measure.
 
 We have already traced and fixed the exploit that made this possible and 
 can assure you that the same error will not happen again in the future.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Heather Nagey
 Customer Services Manager
 http://www.runrev.com/
 LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding
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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread stephen barncard
Perhaps with the new externals interface we can get access to these directly
from the OS.

Id like to use the system font and size menu panel like the one that's used
almost everywhere like TextEdit and TexEdit.

On 11 July 2011 07:31, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:

 I made an inventory of missing Mac OS X controls, see list below :
 1. Round button
 2. • Textured button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 3. ◊ Recessed button  I have a project on it
 4. ◊ Disclosure button  I have a project on it
 5. • Gradient button  http://www.buttongadget.com (?)
 6. • Rounded rect button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 7. • Rounded textured button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 8. ◊ Help button  I have a project on it
 9. • Bevel button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 10. ◊ Radio button  size mini  I work on it
 11. ◊ Check box  size mini  I work on it
 12. ◊ Stepper  size mini  I work on it
 13. Date picker
 14. Segmented control
 15. • Search field  http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/all.irev
 16. Token field
 17. • Image Well  http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/all.irev
 18. Color well
 19. ◊ Slider (vertical and horizontal)  size : small and mini  I work on
 it
 20. ◊ Circular slider  I have a project on it
 21. • Circular progress indicator 
 http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/440/Spinning-wheel
 22. Vertical and horizontal split view
 23. • HUD panel  http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/574/HUD-Panel-Factory
 24. Puff of smoke animation
 25. Answer font
 26. Toolbar and his items (separator toolbar, print toolbar item, show
 color toolbar item, show font toolbar item, customize toolbar item, search
 toolbar item).
 Some have their custom control... But not all... Is my list up to date,
 incomplete or wrong?
 Thank you by advance...
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson

I feel deprived, unloved and generally rejected because I didn't receive
the Hacked e-mail.

Har, har, har.

Bl**dy glad I didn't get it; but reading this thread it does have a 
feling of

bruised egos who weere not included.

Now I remember a lecture on that psychological phemenon at Durham
years ago . . .  :)

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I am speculating here but if the attacker just go some of the accounts then
it is possible that the attacker hacked into some of the on-rev servers but
not all of them, then, just the users on those machines were compromissed. I
did not change my password, I am still deciding if I will do it or not.

Again, if you have a need for utmost security, you should not be on shared
hosting, you need to me on your own box on co-location with security experts
on payroll. If you are on shared hosts, then, by default, you are subject to
such attacks.

Cheers
andre
PS: I have a lifetime on-rev account and am happy with it. I also have a VPS
(it is as good as I can pay) for more sensitive stuff and I have one or two
linodes.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Marian Petrides mpetri...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I am an On-Rev lifetime subscriber but don't recall getting this message.
  So it must be something else, I guess.

 On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

  I have received it. It's probably legit. I don't see any links to a site
 to authenticate, so what would anyone gain by telling you to change your
 password?
 
  Bob
 
 
  On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote:
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  Have any of you received this message from Heather?  Implications?
 
  Gregory
 
 
  Dear Gregory Lypny,
 
  I need to inform you that over the weekend we experienced an attack on
 our customer database. Although we caught this very quickly I regret that
 some information may have been compromised. A small number of accounts were
 affected, unfortunately yours was one of them.
 
  The information concerned includes your name, email address, on-rev
 username and the server you are hosted on. It does not include your
 password, or any postal address or billing information. This information
 alone does not represent a security risk. However, if you have any concerns
 at all that your password for your on-rev account is not secure, you should
 change it immediately. cPanel offers a secure password generator that
 includes numbers and punctuation in a random string, we strongly advise you
 use this service.
 
  We deeply regret this breach of our security procedures.  We felt it
 important to inform you of it as quickly as possible as a precautionary
 measure.
 
  We have already traced and fixed the exploit that made this possible
 and can assure you that the same error will not happen again in the future.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Heather Nagey
  Customer Services Manager
  http://www.runrev.com/
  LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding
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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread René Micout

Le 11 juil. 2011 à 18:46, stephen barncard a écrit :

 Perhaps with the new externals interface we can get access to these directly
 from the OS.

Thank you Stephen...
I am not informed about new externals interface... What is it? and where can 
I find information about that?

 Id like to use the system font and size menu panel like the one that's used
 almost everywhere like TextEdit and TexEdit.

YES !!!
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Re: getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/11/11 4:53 AM, planix wrote:


I do, however, have a windows exe file of the last version which I (happily
enough) emailed to a student to use in his project. I bet you can see where
this is going. Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward (not
necessarily simple) way of reverse engineering the exe file so that I can
get at the scripts?


If you did not password-protect your stack before building the exe, then 
the scripts will be in plain text in the executable. Open it in a text 
editor and they will be visible, in between all the binary code.


If you did password-protect the stack then you can't get access or 
extract the stack. To RR's credit, the ability to do that was removed 
some years ago. But you can write to support to see if they can help 
you. It may cost a fee.


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Marian Petrides
Not bruised egos, Richmond--at least not in my case.  Simply concern about 
whether I was one of the intended recipients of the email but did not receive 
it for sometime.  I would rather NOT change my password but will if I have to.

On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

 I feel deprived, unloved and generally rejected because I didn't receive
 the Hacked e-mail.
 
 Har, har, har.
 
 Bl**dy glad I didn't get it; but reading this thread it does have a feling of
 bruised egos who weere not included.
 
 Now I remember a lecture on that psychological phemenon at Durham
 years ago . . .  :)
 
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 07/11/2011 08:13 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:

Not bruised egos, Richmond--at least not in my case.  Simply concern about 
whether I was one of the intended recipients of the email but did not receive 
it for sometime.  I would rather NOT change my password but will if I have to.


I wonder what the hackers could want with the information? Maybe just 
pure malice.

On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


I feel deprived, unloved and generally rejected because I didn't receive
the Hacked e-mail.

Har, har, har.

Bl**dy glad I didn't get it; but reading this thread it does have a feling of
bruised egos who weere not included.

Now I remember a lecture on that psychological phemenon at Durham
years ago . . .  :)

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/11/11 12:13 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:

Not bruised egos, Richmond--at least not in my case.  Simply concern
about whether I was one of the intended recipients of the email but
did not receive it for sometime.  I would rather NOT change my
password but will if I have to.


The info was sent out about 11 AM UK time. I think if you haven't 
received it by now, you were not affected. Passwords were not obtained, 
so if the affected people are using good passwords, I don't see any 
reason to change them. I'm not changing mine.


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Jerry J
On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:31 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 The info was sent out about 11 AM UK time. I think if you haven't received it 
 by now, you were not affected. Passwords were not obtained, so if the 
 affected people are using good passwords, I don't see any reason to change 
 them. I'm not changing mine.

I'm not bothering to change my password either. As for the info that was 
compromised, the only bit thats not been posted here before is my on-rev 
username, and I bet you can look at my email address and guess it on the first 
try!

--jhj


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[ANN] MobGUI V0.12 : tab bar and buttons

2011-07-11 Thread John Craig
Hi, all.  I've just updated the plugin and uploaded a new video to 
http://mobgui.com

The test stack created in the video is available in the RunRev MobGUI forum.

I created a few (basic) icons with GIMP (gimp.org) for the demo, but was 
thinking of compiling a
list of the most useful general purpose icons.  I have the glyphish 
icons, but can't give
them away with the plugin and they don't come with inactive and active 
states.  I know a graphic
designer over here who'll give me a good rate for spending a few hours 
creating a small icon set
that I can give away with the plugin, so gather your thoughts.  It means 
you'd have a set of icons that
you knew were definitely OK for use in your apps without royalties or 
affiliation.


Don't send me lists of icons just yet - let me organize something online 
where we can try to
determine what the most popular would be and I'll try and move it 
forward.  That is unless
everyone already knows of good resources, are happy using them and 
aren't really interested

in this idea!


JC



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Re: getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Kann
Alistair,

I checked out the program I recommended and it doesn't work on LiveCode 
standalones with passwords. As usual, Jacqueline is the go-to person for 
standalones (and everything else). 

The analogx website does have some other interesting programs and I've never 
had any problem with any of them. When TechTV was on, the main guy (can't think 
of his name) used to always put in a good word for analogx.

--- Good program, but NOT for LIVECODE --

http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Programming/textscan/Freeware.htm

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, planix dr.alistair at gmail.com wrote:

From: planix dr.alistair at gmail.com
Subject: getting from exe to Livecode
To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:53 AM

Hi,

I have just discovered, after numerous changes of my operating system
(finally settled on Ubuntu) for various reasons, that I have deleted (doh!)
my latest version of an application that I was working on. I did do backups
and archive and all the rest but these files were worked on in a rush and I
obviously forgot to put them where they needed to be for capture (damn and
blast). I usually also print out a hard copy of the scripts that I am
writing but, wouldn't you know it, I didn't do that this time.

I do, however, have a windows exe file of the last version which I (happily
enough) emailed to a student to use in his project. I bet you can see where
this is going. Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward (not
necessarily simple) way of reverse engineering the exe file so that I can
get at the scripts?

cheers

Alistair Campbell
Townsville 
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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread stephen barncard
crap...I hope I didn't blow my NDA...  I thought it was a feature
announced/added for 4.6.2 gm1

but yes...  that would change things. That would be incentive for me or
anyone else to cram and to  learn enough Obj-C to put these suggested xcmds
to work.

xcmds would be a solution to keep up with the rapidly changing and platform
specific UI components.

However this is accomplished with the cost of losing cross-platform
compatibility. Since what we are talking about is tapping the very specific
'furniture' of the OS, it should be noted these objects do not stand alone,
they build on libraries deep in the gut of the OS and cannot be
cross-compiled. Also there would be copyright issues here.

So it's clear that if one is considering  deployment on a number of
platforms in Livecode, that constructing *custom controls* is still the way
to go. I know it's possible to create customs that look and work *exactly *like
the native controls ( the amazing datagrid comes to mind) - but many of us
(myself included) get carried away with custom controls and make
improvements to the look which gives it away.

Sometimes there is just too much complexity in the information needed for a
dialog to use the stock dialogs, and one has to break the rules.

Custom controls are *cool*. One can make any UI gadget work just the way one
wants and clone hundreds of them and run them from a single behavior script.
And make a Droptool™ to share with others.


On 11 July 2011 10:06, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:


 Le 11 juil. 2011 à 18:46, stephen barncard a écrit :

  Perhaps with the new externals interface we can get access to these
 directly
  from the OS.

 Thank you Stephen...
 I am not informed about new externals interface... What is it? and where
 can I find information about that?

  Id like to use the system font and size menu panel like the one that's
 used
  almost everywhere like TextEdit and TexEdit.

 YES !!!
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Re: getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-11 Thread FlexibleLearning
Try...

on mouseUp
  answer file Select a Standalone...
  if it is cancel or it =  then exit to top
  put url (binfile:it) into tStack
  repeat forever
-- there's more than one stackfile in there which is interesting
put offset(#!/bin/sh,char 10 to -1 of tStack) into tOff
if tOff = 0 then exit repeat
put char tOff+9 to -1 of tStack into tStack
  end repeat
  ask file Name the Stack...
  if it is cancel or it =  then exit to top
  set the fileType to RevoRSTK
  put tStack into url (binfile:it)
  answer Conversion finished with OK
end mouseUp

From the Scripter's Scrapbook

Hugh Senior
FLCo



Alistair Campbell wrote:

Hi,

I have just discovered, after numerous changes of my operating system
(finally settled on Ubuntu) for various reasons, that I have deleted (doh!)
my latest version of an application that I was working on. I did do backups
and archive and all the rest but these files were worked on in a rush and I
obviously forgot to put them where they needed to be for capture (damn and
blast). I usually also print out a hard copy of the scripts that I am
writing but, wouldn't you know it, I didn't do that this time.

I do, however, have a windows exe file of the last version which I (happily
enough) emailed to a student to use in his project. I bet you can see where
this is going. Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward (not
necessarily simple) way of reverse engineering the exe file so that I can
get at the scripts?

cheers

Alistair Campbell
Townsville 

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how to make answer and ask work in revweb?

2011-07-11 Thread Kee Nethery
When I create a revlet using revweb, and access it via a browser, it appears 
that answer and ask don't work 100%. 

In ask, I can type in the field presented and completely replace what is in 
the field but I cannot edit what is in the dialog field. It also appears that I 
cannot click on the buttons, I have to hit the enter key to press the default 
button. The Cancel button is not clickable (far as I can tell).

for example:
ask Your name is: with John Dough
will display John Dough but if you try to edit Dough to Doe all you can 
do is retype the entire string to fix it John Doe. 

I find that if I move the dialog around on the screen, sometimes that lets me 
select a button on it, but not always.

In the answer dialog, I can select the default but selecting any other button 
seems problematic. Again, it seems that if I move the dialog around on the 
screen, sometimes that will let me select a button with the mouse.

Is there a way to make these work or am I out of luck when trying to use ask 
and answer within a revlet?

Thanks,
Kee



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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
An useful link to check our n-tier stuffs against those 25 rules ! Thanks 
Richard.

Pierre

Le 11 juil. 2011 à 17:48, Richard Gaskin a écrit :

 Michael Kann wrote:
 
  I was more concerned that any data was obtainable from the outside
  at all.
 
 A concern, but not a surprise, given the range of software components that 
 comprise modern web apps.  I think it speaks well of the RunRev that 
 passwords weren't compromised.
 
 Oddly enough I was writing this morning's post to the LiveCode Journal blog 
 about security when this thread showed up here.  The post includes a couple 
 helpful links, the best one being to a recent report of the 25 Most Dangerous 
 Software Errors:
 
 http://livecodejournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1310397018.990871
 
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread SparkOut
The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any hacker
at accessing your (our) password information.

BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be harder
to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM, SparkOut sparkout...@gmail.com wrote:

 The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any
 hacker
 at accessing your (our) password information.

 BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
 have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be
 harder
 to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
 future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.


You are actually correct I will change it to something awfully large
completely random... argh haven't thought about brute force attacks





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Fwd: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best for 
all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe by the 
cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels are always more 
trusty than only letters + numbers ;-)

Best, Pierre

Début du message réexpédié :

 The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any hacker
 at accessing your (our) password information.
 
 BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
 have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be harder
 to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
 future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:

 I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best
 for all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe
 by the cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels are
 always more trusty than only letters + numbers ;-)


I used http://strongpasswordgenerator.com/ to generate mine... :-)



 Best, Pierre

 Début du message réexpédié :

  The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any
 hacker
  at accessing your (our) password information.
 
  BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
  have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be
 harder
  to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
  future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.

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Re: [ANN] MobGUI V0.12 : tab bar and buttons

2011-07-11 Thread Shao Sean
Using the new iOS external SDK you can (hopefully) tap in to the  
system and use the built-in icons (in the Constants section, scroll  
down for images)..


http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIBarButtonItem_Class/Reference/Reference.html#/ 
/apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40007519-CH3-DontLinkElementID_2


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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread René Micout

Le 11 juil. 2011 à 23:48, Shao Sean a écrit :

 Perhaps with the new externals interface we can get access to these directly
 you can with the old SDK.. the SDK that uses Obj-C seems to be pretty flakey 
 and I have not been able to do anything with it other than build their 
 example.. Mind you, you can use Obj-C in the old SDK so not real loss there.. 
 Or is there yet another new SDK coming that actually allows us to do 
 interface features like HC/SC/Rb/every other language ?

Here I am overwhelmed !!
 
 24. Puff of smoke animation
 done

Good ! But where ?
 
 25. Answer font
 could be fun, i had started work on the text palette

Good !

 
 26. Toolbar and his items (separator toolbar, print toolbar item, show
 less fun but it is doable.. I had actually found some code that would have 
 made this so easy to fake, but the non-standardness of Rev causes it to 
 fail (works so nice in REALbasic)..

It would be nice !

...
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Terry Judd
Same here.

Terry...

On 12/07/2011, at 1:44 AM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would just like to say that I haven't been an On-Rev customer for over a
 year now, and I want to thank the Rev team for still including me in this
 email (so, yes, I got one, too).
 
 Jeff M.
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Re: [ANN] MobGUI V0.12 : tab bar and buttons

2011-07-11 Thread John Craig
Thanks for the link - will check it out!

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Jul 2011, at 23:06, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote:

 Using the new iOS external SDK you can (hopefully) tap in to the system and 
 use the built-in icons (in the Constants section, scroll down for images)..
 
 http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIBarButtonItem_Class/Reference/Reference.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40007519-CH3-DontLinkElementID_2
 
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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread Shao Sean

 24. Puff of smoke animation
 done
Good ! But where ?

external


 26. Toolbar and his items (separator toolbar, print toolbar item,  
show
 less fun but it is doable.. I had actually found some code that  
would have made this so easy to fake, but the non-standardness of  
Rev causes it to fail (works so nice in REALbasic)..

It would be nice !

yes it would

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Re: how to make answer and ask work in revweb?

2011-07-11 Thread Kee Nethery

On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

 Hi Kee,
 
 There is a focus problem that either doesn't let you type text in the dialog 
 or doesn't let you use the browser after the dialog disappears.

yep

 I think that the best way to do this is by making a group with a custom 
 dialog. Simply show and hide the group and grab the info you need from that 
 group.

I thought so too except that I had ask and answer in code that waits for the 
answer and then continues with the results obtained. 

For example, click on a line in a table, ask what should happen, and then do it 
to that line of data in that table. Kinda difficult to simulate that with a 
group without a bunch of message passing and such and breaking up the code in 
strange ways. But it will have to be done.

 Btw, although I have a license for it, I don't use the revweb plugin stuff 
 anymore because it is 32 bit only, which is quite deprecated by now. All 
 companies that ask me to do web stuff have 64 bit machines (except for 
 schools and universities, which won't install the plugin anyway).

I am lucky in that the target audience is 32bit.

Thanks, Kee
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Re: getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-11 Thread Chipp Walters
If that works, please PURCHASE Scripter's Scrapbook! (Even if it doesn't you
should still purchase it as it has a ton of GREAT scripts!)

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:32 PM, FlexibleLearning 
ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:

 Try...

 on mouseUp
  answer file Select a Standalone...
  if it is cancel or it =  then exit to top
  put url (binfile:it) into tStack
  repeat forever
-- there's more than one stackfile in there which is interesting
put offset(#!/bin/sh,char 10 to -1 of tStack) into tOff
if tOff = 0 then exit repeat
put char tOff+9 to -1 of tStack into tStack
  end repeat
  ask file Name the Stack...
  if it is cancel or it =  then exit to top
  set the fileType to RevoRSTK
  put tStack into url (binfile:it)
  answer Conversion finished with OK
 end mouseUp

 From the Scripter's Scrapbook

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 Alistair Campbell wrote:

 Hi,

 I have just discovered, after numerous changes of my operating system
 (finally settled on Ubuntu) for various reasons, that I have deleted (doh!)
 my latest version of an application that I was working on. I did do backups
 and archive and all the rest but these files were worked on in a rush and I
 obviously forgot to put them where they needed to be for capture (damn and
 blast). I usually also print out a hard copy of the scripts that I am
 writing but, wouldn't you know it, I didn't do that this time.

 I do, however, have a windows exe file of the last version which I (happily
 enough) emailed to a student to use in his project. I bet you can see where
 this is going. Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward (not
 necessarily simple) way of reverse engineering the exe file so that I can
 get at the scripts?

 cheers

 Alistair Campbell
 Townsville

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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Wieder
stephen-

Monday, July 11, 2011, 11:11:21 AM, you wrote:

 crap...I hope I didn't blow my NDA...  I thought it was a feature
 announced/added for 4.6.2 gm1

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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread Shao Sean
If it is not covered under NDA feel free to let us know about it..  
Some of us have been waiting since 4.0 for the new SDK..


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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-11 Thread Chipp Walters
Shao,

I believe the altButton control is better now than ButtonGadget as it can do
much of what BG can do, and all of it's properties are accessible by script.
Also, the gradient property for the button is also settable by script for
altButton. I'm EOL'ing ButtonGadget in favor of altButton. I'll use the base
altButton object as a point of departure for other controls.

Also, please consider allowing any controls you create to work with Ken's
fabulous DropTools architecture. It would be nice to have some of the
wonderful things you make available as DropTools-- your work speaks for
itself!

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:31 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote:

 I made an inventory of missing Mac OS X controls, see list below :
 1. Round button
 2. • Textured button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 3. ◊ Recessed button  I have a project on it
 4. ◊ Disclosure button  I have a project on it
 5. • Gradient button  http://www.buttongadget.com (?)
 6. • Rounded rect button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 7. • Rounded textured button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 8. ◊ Help button  I have a project on it
 9. • Bevel button 
 http://blog.chipp.com/new-altbutton-control-for-livecode/ (?)
 10. ◊ Radio button  size mini  I work on it
 11. ◊ Check box  size mini  I work on it
 12. ◊ Stepper  size mini  I work on it
 13. Date picker
 14. Segmented control
 15. • Search field  http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/all.irev
 16. Token field
 17. • Image Well  http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/all.irev
 18. Color well
 19. ◊ Slider (vertical and horizontal)  size : small and mini  I work on
 it
 20. ◊ Circular slider  I have a project on it
 21. • Circular progress indicator 
 http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/440/Spinning-wheel
 22. Vertical and horizontal split view
 23. • HUD panel  http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/574/HUD-Panel-Factory
 24. Puff of smoke animation
 25. Answer font
 26. Toolbar and his items (separator toolbar, print toolbar item, show
 color toolbar item, show font toolbar item, customize toolbar item, search
 toolbar item).
 Some have their custom control... But not all... Is my list up to date,
 incomplete or wrong?
 Thank you by advance...
 René
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Re: how to make answer and ask work in revweb?

2011-07-11 Thread Chipp Walters
Kee,

I just finished creating a generic dialog sheet created with groups. It's
modal but does not use windows. The function call is:

altAnswerDialog (*dialog icon, dialog title, dialog msg, any number of
buttons)*
*
*
It supports icons: help,information,warning,about,error,question
If the msg is html, then it will display as htmltext
It uses the altButton object, but could be modified to use regular buttons
It slides down from the top of the window, and adjusts it's height to how
large the message. If taller than the window, it will instead put a
scrollbar on the msg field.

it is used like this:

   *get* altAnswerDialog(Question,Logoff or Quit,Do you want to Logoff
or Quit Now?,Logoff,Quit,Cancel)

if it is Cancel then exit to top


If this is of interest, holler at me offline and I'll send you copy. I'm
using it in an app which has to work on Mac, PC, and iPad, thus the
requirement of not using real dialogs.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote:


 On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

  Hi Kee,
 
  There is a focus problem that either doesn't let you type text in the
 dialog or doesn't let you use the browser after the dialog disappears.

 yep

  I think that the best way to do this is by making a group with a custom
 dialog. Simply show and hide the group and grab the info you need from that
 group.

 I thought so too except that I had ask and answer in code that waits for
 the answer and then continues with the results obtained.

 For example, click on a line in a table, ask what should happen, and then
 do it to that line of data in that table. Kinda difficult to simulate that
 with a group without a bunch of message passing and such and breaking up the
 code in strange ways. But it will have to be done.

  Btw, although I have a license for it, I don't use the revweb plugin
 stuff anymore because it is 32 bit only, which is quite deprecated by now.
 All companies that ask me to do web stuff have 64 bit machines (except for
 schools and universities, which won't install the plugin anyway).

 I am lucky in that the target audience is 32bit.

 Thanks, Kee
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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page

2011-07-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Andre,

Your new website looks great!
Congratulations!

Only one question:
Does it really took 24 hours? :-)

Alejandro

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Re: AW: How to test if an image is empty?

2011-07-11 Thread Jim Lambert
Ken,

Great explanation.

Thanks,
JimL

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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Alejandro Tejada
capellan2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Andre,

 Your new website looks great!
 Congratulations!

 Only one question:
 Does it really took 24 hours? :-)



Alejandro,

It actually took less than 24h... I will write a little journal on how it
was built shortly.

:-)





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Re: getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/11/11 7:37 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:

If that works, please PURCHASE Scripter's Scrapbook! (Even if it doesn't you
should still purchase it as it has a ton of GREAT scripts!)


I'm afraid the extraction method in the script has been obsolete for 
some years, so it won't work any more. That's no reflection on SS by any 
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