Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Mark Schonewille
So... previously I was free to do whatever I wanted and at some point I chose Save As... if I wanted to keep my current version next to my new version. Simple. Now I no longer have the freedom to do whatever I want, as Apple forces me to use their and exactly their workflow and nothing but

Re: Kicking Off a Standalone Save

2012-05-29 Thread Mark Schonewille
Pete, This is the script of a build button of one of my plugins: on mouseUp save the topStack put empty into gRevStackStatus[the short name of the topStack] repeat for each line myStack in (the substacks of stack (the mainstack of the topStack)) put empty into gRevStackStatus[myStack]

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Pierre Sahores
Igor, Thanks for pointing this to our eyes ! Useful to know. Kind regards, Pierre Le 29 mai 2012 à 02:14, Igor de Oliveira Couto a écrit : -- Understanding Old Save + Save As... x New Autosave Versions + Duplicate

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread stephen barncard
Unfortunately no Photoshop, Pro Tools HD or Final Cut 7 for Linux. I hope Digidesign doesn't try to go with the flow. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: So... previously I was free to do whatever I wanted and at some point I chose Save

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Kay C Lan
Hmmm, All this seems to just confirm that we are old and set in our ways, not that Apple is headed in the wrong direction. It seems to remind me of the complaints about the introduction of automatic chokes vs manual chokes; electronic ignition vs mechanical points; fuel injection vs

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Mark Schonewille
Kay, It is too early to decide whether Apple is heading in the right direction or not. If Mac-veterans leave Apple, Apple is definitely doing something wrong, even if it is good for their business. Your statement that I'm old is appalling and offensive and makes me not want to read the

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Kay C Lan
Mark, My apologies, I did not appreciate that old is an offensive term and will try not use it from now on. The term is a sign of respect in my culture, but mine is not necessarily the right culture and I should appreciate other cultures can be 180 degrees out of phase to my own. I merely tried

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread stephen barncard
Maybe this doesn't affect *your* Save methodology, but it affects *mine*. The Macintosh used to be about having several ways to accomplish a task, now we are confronted with fewer choices, THEIR choices. That's my problem with what's happening to the OS. When I save an audio or video file, I

Export display of Livecode app doesn't work

2012-05-29 Thread Glen Bojsza
I have two linux machines (A and B) on Linux machine A I have a Livecode application on Linux machine B I : - ssh -X machineA@192.168.15.6 - launch the Livecode application on machine A but gets displayed on machine B When you do this with any other linux applications everything works fine.

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
Kay, thank you very much for the correction: On 29/05/2012, at 4:42 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: [...] I don't know where you got the information about Versions taking up a lot of storage space if you have a lot of backups, but my understanding its the complete opposite. Like TimeMachine, Version

Re: Constant statement limitations.

2012-05-29 Thread Alex Tweedly
No. What tripped me up was ?livecode put lc version is the version br constant x = 4 put this web page shows the problem br put here x = x br on somehandler put within a handler, x = x br end somehandler somehandler put and finally x still = x br ? Constants do not take effect

Re: Constant statement limitations.

2012-05-29 Thread Alex Tweedly
Thanks Igor, but you're talking about where constants can be declared; I was talking about where they can be used. I read the dictionary the same way you do, in the context of declaration (constants can be declared within or outwith handlers, with different context). And I agree with Mark

Re: Constant statement limitations.

2012-05-29 Thread Keith Clarke
Forgive the naiveté (I have no formal development background) - and so maybe there is a subtlety about the formal definition of constants in computer science that I'm missing - but to have a mathematical constant available outside of handlers, can we not choose from script variables, global

Re: Constant statement limitations.

2012-05-29 Thread Peter W A Wood
I know its a kludge but couldn't you do something like: ?livecode constant x = 4 on somehandler put within a handler, x = x br end somehandler on run-it put lc version is the version br put this web page shows the problem br put here x = x br somehandler put and finally x

Rotating a 3D object / movie

2012-05-29 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Hi Charles, I was thinking about trying the approach you suggest but I wasn't convinced it would run smoothly because my looping movie has 300 frames. But now that I've read about your results I will try it, maybe removing some frames of the movie before. You used the hidden cards method,

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
stephen barncard wrote: Maybe this doesn't affect *your* Save methodology, but it affects *mine*. The Macintosh used to be about having several ways to accomplish a task, now we are confronted with fewer choices, THEIR choices. That's my problem with what's happening to the OS. When I save an

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Kay C Lan
Stephen, undoubtedly you are right, our methodologies are different. But that is not what my comments are about, and clearly I have problems expressing myself - which is understandable when you consider I only passed English because 49.5 was rounded up to 50% :-( So in attempt not to offend

Re: Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

2012-05-29 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On May 25, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, Bob Sneidar already helped me out. Regards, Matthias Am 25.05.2012 um 23:26 schrieb Matthias Rebbe: Hi, last year in summer Peter M. Brigham posted a download link to his library textlib.rev. The download link is not

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Colin Holgate
I seem to be having a different experience with Lion than many here. I too was reluctant to change my way of scrolling, or to give up on using Rosetta apps, and so had not yet upgraded to Lion. I usually grab OSX updates very early on (as a piece of trivia, I was the first person anywhere,

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Jones
On May 29, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Having got a little used to Lion I then felt better about trying out Mountain Lion. My current setup is that I have 10.8 on my internal SSD, and still have 10.7.4 on the external SSD. I still need that because under 10.8 you can't publish

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/29/12 2:22 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I merely tried to use an analogy that people get set in their ways, especially the longer they have been using something. I hope I haven't offended any Hot Rodders, as that was not my intent either. I'm an old hot-rodder. I kept my 17-year-old car until a

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar
That was just a scam our parents conned us into. We all fell for it. Now they AND our children are laughing at us! ;-) Bob On May 29, 2012, at 9:52 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm getting used to being old. Sort of. Now I'm waiting for respect for the aged to kick in. :)

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: On 5/29/12 2:22 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I merely tried to use an analogy that people get set in their ways, especially the longer they have been using something. I hope I haven't offended any Hot Rodders, as that was not my intent either. I'm an old hot-rodder. I kept my

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
I bought a new car recently. It has automatic transmission so it decides when to shift gears. Except that there's a mode where I can use it like manual transmission and control when the gear shifts happen. It also has computer controlled traction control. But I can switch it off if I want to

Re: Kicking Off a Standalone Save

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Monte: Thanks, yes I'm aware of those and aleady use them for a couple of things. I was looking for a way to programmitically start the standalone build process. Mark: Thanks, I think you solved my problem! Actually, your code looks familiar; I think you may have sent it to me once before,

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread dunbarx
I am jumping into this late, so maybe this was answered, but Colin had mentioned the new insane scroll direction. This is the Lion default, but you can change it back to normal. I am not near my Lion machine, but I believe the fix is in the trackPad/mouse pane of system preferences, under

Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
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Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar
No but I bet Apple will buy them or shut them down. ;-) Bob On May 29, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: Anybody know anything about Bodega - http://appbodega.com/ Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Hah! So the scroll direction DID change! That's been driving me crazy, thinking I just wasn't remembering how things used to work. Glad there's a way to put it back to the old way. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: I am

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Pete wrote: Anybody know anything about Bodega - http://appbodega.com/ I haven't used them yet, but have been considering it. They got a very good write-up at CultOfMac this month:

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
PS The setting is in the mouse Prefs, uncheck Move Contenet in the direction of finger movement to get back to the old way. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Hah! So the scroll direction DID change! That's been

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Colin Holgate
I use trackpad full time, and the new way feels fine. I think with a mouse wheel it would be a little more confusing. On May 29, 2012, at 2:23 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: I am not near my Lion machine, but I believe the fix is in the trackPad/mouse pane of system preferences, under either

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin ambassador@... writes: I haven't used them yet, but have been considering it. They got a very good write-up at CultOfMac this month: It does beg the question as to why a developer would bother placing apps in a store that nobody knows exists... -- Mark Wieder

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
I think I will give them a whirl, no setup fees and 7% per transaction, plus a few minutes to set up the app. I'd also like to pass on an interesting side effect of selling an app on your own web site and through the Mac App Store. This applies to situations where the version on your web site

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Yes, I think the problme is with the mouse wheel. At the risk of being accused of being to set in my ways, why did Apple change this? It made me feel seasick! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I use trackpad

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/29/12 12:29 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: But I can switch it off if I want to do things where I would rather it wasn't in control (don't ask!). Exactly the point. That's what Apple should have done. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Jones
They made the change because it's more like moving the page with your finger on the iPad/iPhone. You want the page to move up - you flick up, move down, flick down. This is the exact opposite of the old scrollwheel way where you moved the scrollbar thumb, not the contents. Also, once you get

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
I thought you'd get it! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:15 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 5/29/12 12:29 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: But I can switch it off if I want to do things where I would rather it wasn't in control (don't ask!).

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Yeah, I can certainly see that it would be more natural for gestures and/or a trackpad. All I can say is it confused the heck out of me and I'm happy now I'm back to the old way. I use a Kensington mouse on my Mac and I thought for a while it wasn't compatible with Lion. Pete lcSQL Software

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/29/12 1:39 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Pete wrote: Anybody know anything about Bodega - http://appbodega.com/ I haven't used them yet, but have been considering it. They got a very good write-up at CultOfMac this month:

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Oh dear. I assume that's in the Bodega TCs? I really hope that's not true because I refuse to be told where I can and cannot sell my app. I will check into this further. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:31 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread François Chaplais
My two cents: about the scrolling: first time I got a mac (in '88) I found the way scroll arrows worked totally counter intuitive about time machine: yes, it can be a plague. I recently thought of excluding ~/Library/Caches in the Time machine options and things are definitively better now. IMHO,

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:31 PM, J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 5/29/12 1:39 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I haven't used them yet, but have been considering it. They got a very good write-up at CultOfMac this month:

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Richard, Yes I realise it's Apple's doing that, not Bodega. I've emailed Bodega about the issue but it doesn't seem true to me. For example, Coda 2 is available on the Mac App Store. It's also available on the Panic web site, either through the Mac App Store or directly from Panic, with the

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Andrew Henshaw
I think the article may have that wrong, you can sell your apps anywhere you want, the MAS is just another outlet. Quite a few developers seem to be switching to Mac App Store only policies (eg Pixelmator) which is their choice, but ive not seen anywhere that is a requirement unless its

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Jones
I'm with Andrew. There's noting in the license agreement I agreed to that prevents me from selling somewhere besides the AppStore. That may work for a closed ecosystem like iOS, but Mac users would not put up with that (nor would Mac developers...). Tim On May 29, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Andrew

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread stephen barncard
I've got you beat on that Jacque, my 1988 stick Volvo station wagon is still my favorite car, even though I inherited a 2005 Prius. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 5/29/12 2:22 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I merely tried to use an analogy that people

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread stephen barncard
yeah otherwise Apple should be due for an anti-trust investigation soon. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Tim Jones tolis...@me.com wrote: I'm with Andrew. There's noting in the license agreement I agreed to that prevents me from selling somewhere besides the AppStore. That may work for a

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/29/12 4:46 PM, Tim Jones wrote: I'm with Andrew. There's noting in the license agreement I agreed to that prevents me from selling somewhere besides the AppStore. That may work for a closed ecosystem like iOS, but Mac users would not put up with that (nor would Mac developers...).

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Phew, I was worried there for a while. I'm gonna give Bodega a shot. I'll post some feedback. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:47 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 5/29/12 4:46 PM, Tim Jones wrote: I'm with Andrew. There's noting in

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
I've noticed some people complaining about Time Machine in this thread. On 30/05/2012, at 6:01 AM, François Chaplais wrote: [...] about time machine: yes, it can be a plague. [...] I have to say, Time Machine has saved my skin twice already. First time, a visiting cousin accidentally

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Igor, I agree with you on this one. TM has saved me on more than one occasion. Maybe I've just got used to using it and don't notice whatever the problems are that others have referred to. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Looney
Stephen, Jacque, You kids and your new toys! My daily driver is an 1984 MB 300D - with 514,000 miles (830,000 k). Runs fine, a joy to drive. Would not hesitate to take it again to Maine, or Florida, or British Columbia, or Iowa or... any of the other places it's been. I AM (proudly) old and I

hello

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Kann
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Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Hibbert
I for one am pleased that some developers still sell through their own sites as well as MAS. I recently had a bad experience with Apple when I moved from the UK to Canada, believe it or not I lost ALL licences for apps purchased through MAS just because I updated my Apple ID to reflect my new

Re: hello

2012-05-29 Thread Jerry Jensen
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Tracking And Deleting Objects Via Custom Properties?

2012-05-29 Thread JOHN PATTEN
Hi All… I have a script that is storing objects via their name in a custom property of the card. I'm trying to delete one of the objects by checking if the object name is 'among' the 'list' of items. This works fine. However I can delete the name of the object from the list of objects in the

Re: Tracking And Deleting Objects Via Custom Properties?

2012-05-29 Thread Mike Bonner
Probably something like this would work. on mouseUp put the buttonList of current card into tButtons put the short name of last btn into tTargetButton put lineoffset(tTargetButton,tButtons) into tOffset -- get the matching line number in tButtons if tOffset 0 then -- if there was a

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Jones
On May 29, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: I've noticed some people complaining about Time Machine in this thread. […] Before the days of Time Machine, we used to have Retrospect in our office, backing up to external drives. Let me assure you: recovering your lost work was

Re: Tracking And Deleting Objects Via Custom Properties?

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Hibbert
John, You can't edit the list of items in a custom property directly, but you can put the list of items in the custom property into a variable, delete the item from the variable then set the custom property back to the modified variable. HTH Paul On 2012-05-29, at 7:14 PM, JOHN PATTEN wrote:

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Jones
Ugh - these are all mine … On May 29, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Tim Jones wrote: … a life saver if you have nothing else, but I do have something else ... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Tracking And Deleting Objects Via Custom Properties?

2012-05-29 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
You could use this, something I saved along the way. I *think* it's from the stdLib by Ken Ray and Richard Gaskin, but I've lost track. on deleteCustomProperty tObjRef,tPropSet,tProp -- not sure where this comes from, it's not mine -- thanks to whoever ! put the custompropertyset of

Re: Tracking And Deleting Objects Via Custom Properties?

2012-05-29 Thread JOHN PATTEN
Thanks Peter, Paul, and Mike! I forgot about the lineOffset… :) Cheers! John Patten SUSD On May 29, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: You could use this, something I saved along the way. I *think* it's from the stdLib by Ken Ray and Richard Gaskin, but I've lost track. on

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/29/12 7:40 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Igor, I agree with you on this one. TM has saved me on more than one occasion. Maybe I've just got used to using it and don't notice whatever the problems are that others have referred to. I really like Time Machine too -- for backups. It's always

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Kay C Lan
Tim wrote: One tip - turn off Spotlight. I've found that the mdimport daemon spikes - even on my Mac Pros - every time I save a file in LC or one of the NLE apps. I mentioned this on another thread about Steven B's slow Lion (which he's since fixed), but was informed by a 'wise' user that

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Paul Hibbert l...@pbh.on-rev.com wrote: I for one am pleased that some developers still sell through their own sites as well as MAS. I recently had a bad experience with Apple when I moved from the UK to Canada, believe it or not I lost ALL licences for apps

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread -=JB=-
I had a problem with MAS when I changed my id which is my email address. I changed my email address and id and then I could not update programs or access them with my new id. I learned to correct the problem so you can download updates for software bought with your old id is to delete the

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Hibbert
On 2012-05-29, at 9:48 PM, -=JB=- wrote: I learned to correct the problem so you can download updates for software bought with your old id is to delete the program from your disk. Then start up MacApp and you will be able to install the software you have purchased on the old id without any

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm puzzled by this reference to sqlite being slow, I think the second time you've mentioned it. It's an in memory database and faster than probably any other SQL implementation. It does indeed have many settings that control cache, etc. As for industrial strenght (whatever that means), there

Re: Outlet for Mac Apps

2012-05-29 Thread -=JB=-
I was able to use my current versions too. Sorry to hear about the problems and I have no answer. Are you able to access them from your old account in any way or is that closed and you have no access. Were you required to transfer your MAS account when you moved to Canada? -=JB=- On May 29,