Re: mergExt $49 on RunRev Marketplace

OK, that was the shortest sale ever. Apparently a coupon went on a destructive rampage. It's all over now but still a good deal at $149. Cheers Monte On 22/08/2012, at 4:06 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > Hi LiveCoders > > I've just been informed by a mergExt customer that the RunRev store has >

mergExt $49 on RunRev Marketplace

Hi LiveCoders I've just been informed by a mergExt customer that the RunRev store has massively marked down the price on mergExt Complete from $149 to $49. When you consider the individual components add up to a whopping $415 this could be the deal of a lifetime. I didn't know about the deal an

Re: The Owner of a background group

On 8/21/12 10:23 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: And so a group, being an object that contains other objects, has no unequivocal place in the hierarchy. There's an order. It's changed a couple of times, but as I understand it, the system is: 1. Card groups BackgroundBehavior: false Shared: n

Re: local helper application for remote database buffering

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, william humphrey wrote: > Try Valentina if speed is an issue as it is much faster. Its not the database speed that's at issue here; the are small databases and pretty much instant. It's the lag from the remote database that I'm dealing with her. -- The Hawkins L

Re: The Owner of a background group

Jacque. And so a group, being an object that contains other objects, has no unequivocal place in the hierarchy. Well, this is what you get when you mongrelize these things. I would prefer that even the blank spaces send their messages to the group, then to the card. Craig -Original Me

Re: The Owner of a background group

On 8/21/12 7:50 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Cards lived on HC backgrounds. But LC groups live on cards, even though the background versions of these have a sort of "shared" existence within the stack. But this is closer, in my opinion, to the sharedText of a field, rather than an object class in

Re: New Pricing

Warren- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 3:20:31 PM, you wrote: >> It's not at all clear to me how to do that. Clicking on any of the >> "Buy" links doesn't allow any configuration. >> > Try the Android or iOS "Perpetual" option. Ah. There they are. And that brings things down to a reasonable level ag

Re: The Owner of a background group

Jacque. Your HC age is showing. Cards lived on HC backgrounds. But LC groups live on cards, even though the background versions of these have a sort of "shared" existence within the stack. But this is closer, in my opinion, to the sharedText of a field, rather than an object class in and of

LibURL vs. cURL

*Would anyone here venture an opinion whether libURL or cURL has advantages over the other in terms of downloading via HTTP? Is one more reliable? More robust? More better?* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this ur

Re: New Pricing

On 22/08/2012, at 8:35 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > Yes, personal licensing has changed for new customers. However nothing has > changed for existing customers, you can still buy upgrades in the same way > to those licenses at the same price point. I think the changes are good for everyone in gene

Re: The Owner of a background group

It might. Then again it might freak out that the group is not on any card, so rather than put him through that, I told him a way that would definitely work. Interesting though that if you delete a card with the last instance of a background group on it, the group remains a part of the stack, bu

Re: New Pricing

Yes, personal licensing has changed for new customers. However nothing has changed for existing customers, you can still buy upgrades in the same way to those licenses at the same price point. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Kil

Re: Button Basher

Hi Richmond, Thanks, I'll navigate there soon! Rick On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 08/21/2012 06:17 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: >> Hi Richmond, >> >> Whatever happened to "Button Basher"? I know it was an old program. >> I was looking on revOnline, and didn't find it, even wit

Re: New Pricing

On 08/21/2012 05:02 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Kevin- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 1:00:29 PM, you wrote: As far as the store front is concerned, we are showing the most popular products there. You can select a license and customize it, for example to get a desktop only product for a single platform.

Re: New Pricing

Good point! On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > I've never > been a fan of the limited 30-day trial period, and this gives people > the option of trying the product for a more extended period until > they're ready to convert to a normal license. > > -- > -Mark Wieder ___

Re: New Pricing

Kevin- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 1:00:29 PM, you wrote: > Pay as you go pricing is something you are either going to love, or you > are going to hate. Anyone want to take bets as to where I stand on this? > as far as I'm aware not a single $ has been added or subtracted to > any option in any

Re: New Pricing

Jacque- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 1:47:18 PM, you wrote: > I just now noticed that if I point to the word "perpetual" and wait > for the popup to appear it was explained. I didn't notice that either - I went to the chart at the bottom of the page which seems to have the same data but no popups,

Re: New Pricing

Bob- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 1:09:17 PM, you wrote: > Heh heh. I remember when the market pundits were saying Apple was > dead when they got to 5% market share. I never believed it, but no > one else listened to me at the time. Of course, no one listens to me > now! ...sorry... were you sayin

Re: Mobile mapping with native browser control

I'm not sure but perhaps they are now rejecting google maps in apps because they have their own tiles. Take a look at mergMK for an alternative. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 22/08/2012, at 7:40 AM, "Ralph DiMola" wrote: > I just go

Re: New Pricing

Kevin- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 1:00:29 PM, you wrote: > As far as the store front is concerned, we are showing the most popular > products there. You can select a license and customize it, for example to > get a desktop only product for a single platform. That is a design It's not at all clear

Re: The Owner of a background group

Oohh didn't think of delete background. Good to know. Bob On Aug 21, 2012, at 1:02 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 8/21/12 1:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: >> Is there a way to delete a group completely from thestack? > > Place the group on any card, select it with the edit tool, and hit the del

Re: New Pricing

On 08/22/2012 12:37 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: Interesting that there's no personal license users complaining. They are the only ones that could lose out with the new plans but arguably the low cost pay as you go could cover that market. It appears the only people complaining are the ones that

Re: The Owner of a background group

On 8/21/12 1:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: Is there a way to delete a group completely from thestack? Place the group on any card, select it with the edit tool, and hit the delete key. Or alternately, in the message box: delete background "" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac..

Re: Button Basher

On 08/21/2012 06:17 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi Richmond, Whatever happened to "Button Basher"? I know it was an old program. I was looking on revOnline, and didn't find it, even with a search! Did it get moved somewhere else, and if so, do you have a link to it? Now available in both pre and

Mobile mapping with native browser control

I just got rejected by the iTunes let's call them folks for now. I have been running in circles with them for 2 months now. I address one issue and then they find another. The performance is too slow then they try it on a device and it's fine. Then I address an issue and this old performance is

Re: New Pricing

Interesting that there's no personal license users complaining. They are the only ones that could lose out with the new plans but arguably the low cost pay as you go could cover that market. It appears the only people complaining are the ones that state they are using very old versions with no p

Re: The Owner of a background group

Hi. Doesn't "delete grp yourGroup" work? -Original Message- From: Peter Bogdanoff To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 2:35 pm Subject: Re: The Owner of a background group I've seen this. Is there a way to delete a group completely from the stack? I'm working with a sta

Re: New Pricing

On 08/21/2012 11:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/21/12 3:00 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: As far as the store front is concerned, we are showing the most popular products there. You can select a license and customize it, for example to get a desktop only product for a single platform. Ah. I see

Re: New Pricing

I guess I never made it past the front page of the store, so I was as confused as anyone. I just poked around a little bit. Hovering over the words Pay as You Go or Perpetual explains what they mean. Click "Buy" on any perpetual package to swap components in and out. That allows you to purchas

Re: New Pricing

On 8/21/12 3:00 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: As far as the store front is concerned, we are showing the most popular products there. You can select a license and customize it, for example to get a desktop only product for a single platform. Ah. I see now. When I first looked at the storefront, my i

Re: The Owner of a background group

Thanks, that works perfectly! On Aug 21, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Yes. Place the group on a card. Set it's BackgroundBehavior to false. Delete > the group from the card. Save. Should be gone forever. > > Bob > > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > >> I've

Re: local helper application for remote database buffering

Try Valentina if speed is an issue as it is much faster. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Monday, August 20, 2012, william humphrey wrote: > > > What remote database are you using? > > > > I'm planning on it being Postgres, but I want to stay compatible with > MySQL, too

Re: New Pricing

Heh heh. I remember when the market pundits were saying Apple was dead when they got to 5% market share. I never believed it, but no one else listened to me at the time. Of course, no one listens to me now! Bob On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > EA has also begun moving so

Re: The Owner of a background group

On 8/21/12 10:50 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hmmm now that I am thinking about it with a full cup of coffee surging through my veins, I seem to remember Jacque mentioning in the past that a background group really belongs to the stack as a whole from a certain point of view, although as Craig says, fo

Re: The Owner of a background group

Yes. Place the group on a card. Set it's BackgroundBehavior to false. Delete the group from the card. Save. Should be gone forever. Bob On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > I've seen this. Is there a way to delete a group completely from the stack? > I'm working with a stac

Re: New Pricing

Pay as you go pricing is something you are either going to love, or you are going to hate. We have done our homework, we know what % of you do and don't like it. Therefore, like other big companies before us (e.g. Adobe) we have made it an option. You may choose if it is for you. Or not. You may co

Re: New Pricing

On 8/21/12 1:30 PM, Richmond wrote: It is amazing, how, after supper, and a glass of Bulgarian Rakia [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakia ] everything becomes, all at once, simpler and highly comical. And (with a sideways dig at the 'GAY' component) it slippeth down somewhat more smoothly tha

Re: Older versions. Was "New Pricing".

On 8/21/12 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote: I know that when J. Landman Gay writes her messages are fairly authoritative. As A result I will drop that 'beef' of mine. It was purely personal opinion, based only on previous observations of human behavior. Which, sorry to say, isn't always inspiring. :

Re: New Pricing

On 08/21/2012 10:30 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 11:05:05 AM, you wrote: It's even worse than you describe, though what you describe is already taken care of: It's even worse than *you* describe. While a pay-as-you-go subscription model may work for some sofware-a

Re: New Pricing

Richard- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 11:05:05 AM, you wrote: > It's even worse than you describe, though what you describe is already > taken care of: It's even worse than *you* describe. While a pay-as-you-go subscription model may work for some sofware-as-a-service platforms, it most definitely

Re: Button Basher

Whatever happened to "Button Basher"? It was having a prolonged holiday on a 2 TeraByte external thing . . . Actually one of the reasons I stopped working on it was that RR/LC 4.0 seemed to make that sort of thing rather easier. If you e-mail me off-list I will lob you a zip file. --

Re: The Owner of a background group

I've seen this. Is there a way to delete a group completely from the stack? I'm working with a stack that has over a dozen unused groups. It is a legacy from when it was a HyperCard stack. The unused groups aren't causing a problem other than there are many with duplicate names. Can these be de

Re: New Pricing

I'd noticed the same thing but thought I was missing something. I have to say that this whole pricing change seems to have been done in haste, and without the necessary expalnations to clarify what's chenged and what hasn't. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11

Re: New Pricing

On 08/21/2012 09:05 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Indeed, not offering a desktop-only option for any platform is so silly that I have to assume it's an error that will be corrected before the day's out. Very much so. I would (RunRev and Kevin Miller forgive me) offer something like this: 1.

Re: New Pricing

Richmond wrote: 3. How many of them feel that a Linux version of Livecode at the same sort of pricing as the versions for Mac and Win is financially worth it. I finally took a moment to look at the new store pricing grid. Now I see why folks are concerned. It's even worse than you describe

Re: New Pricing

Peter Alcibiades wrote: The Linux market is certainly difficult and has some real challenges, and the prevalence of free as in beer is certainly one of them. But this is what you have to contend with if going after that market. RealBasic is an example of a company that's made the decision and i

Re: Older versions. Was "New Pricing".

On 08/21/2012 07:17 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/21/12 8:18 AM, Ken Corey wrote: On 21/08/2012 14:09, Richmond wrote: It would bring RunRev some modest revenue from people who have neither the money to invest in the latest version, nor the requirements to have it. I disagree. I disagree

Re: New Pricing

On 08/21/2012 06:31 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richard, I think this is the problem, isn't it? If you're going to support Linux in a way that is viable and attractive for people wanting a Linux based programming environment, this is not cutting it. To do that you have to make the Linux environ

Raiders of the lost resources.

Hey-Ho . . . Trying to connect to OLD revOnline with my Mav version of Revolution Dreamcard 2.6 largely on Rick Harrison's behalf, but not entirely and getting no joy whatsoever.. has it been purged? or, has it moved? or, has some blessed soul backed its contents up somewhere? Richmon

Re: Button Basher

On 08/21/2012 06:17 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi Richmond, Whatever happened to "Button Basher"? I know it was an old program. I was looking on revOnline, and didn't find it, even with a search! Did it get moved somewhere else, and if so, do you have a link to it? Thanks, Rick I have a feeli

Re: Resize stack

Pete, I think the current behavior is the correct one from a user's perspective. It always shows me what is selected. I can see circumstances where I don't want that behavior but I think that would be rare. Until you mentioned it I never noticed it worked that way. Bill Vlahos

Re: Resize stack

Yes, the field, not the stack, sorry about the typo. Although, I recall other discussions about a stack having the ability to scroll instead of having to group every control together to achieve that result. Thanks for the code. I was hoping there might be some other property that would avoid the

Re: The inmates have been let loose!

I agree on the whole issue of Apple backing people into corners on how they want us to use our computers. One poijnt though in this case. I believe the article mentioned a way of disabling this "feature" entirely if you never want to use iCloud. Who knows, maybe the upcoming decision on Apple and

Re: New Pricing

The Linux market is certainly difficult and has some real challenges, and the prevalence of free as in beer is certainly one of them. But this is what you have to contend with if going after that market. RealBasic is an example of a company that's made the decision and is doing it. Whether right

Re: changes to the runrev store

I find myslef increasingly intersted in a trial of Real Studio. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I meant where would old fogies like me go, who have learned too many > languages already, and shudder at the thought of having to lea

Re: Older versions. Was "New Pricing".

On 8/21/12 8:18 AM, Ken Corey wrote: On 21/08/2012 14:09, Richmond wrote: It would bring RunRev some modest revenue from people who have neither the money to invest in the latest version, nor the requirements to have it. I disagree. I disagree too. A new customer may decide to download ver

Re: changes to the runrev store

I meant where would old fogies like me go, who have learned too many languages already, and shudder at the thought of having to learn Java or some flavor of C or even Python. LC is attractive to hobbyist and some time developers like me because we can hold down a job doing other things perfectly

Re: New Pricing

Yes, and risk that someone else will come along and reinvent the wheel as an open source project, cutting the dev out entirely. A lot of people in the Linux world see charging for software an evil thing. If people can produce something as good(?) as Office that costs nothing, why would MS try to

Re: Bug with acceleratedRendering

This probably has to do with the layerMode setting (or lack of setting). >From the 5.02 release notes (doesn't seem to be in the current release notes):  Accelerated rendering comes with some restrictions:  € Bitmap effects which use the multiply and color dodge blend modes will  not work correctl

Re: The Owner of a background group

Hmmm now that I am thinking about it with a full cup of coffee surging through my veins, I seem to remember Jacque mentioning in the past that a background group really belongs to the stack as a whole from a certain point of view, although as Craig says, for the purposes of the message path it h

Re: changes to the runrev store

slylabs13 wrote > > Where else would we go? > > Bob > It depends for what platform. For Linux you would likely go to Python and use one of the gui kits of which there are several. I don't know about Windows or Mac. It would not be as nice or as easy, at least not for me. But the nature o

Re: The inmates have been let loose!

Agreed Richmond. My complaint is that the devs (or whoever made the decision) see fit to push me in any direction whatsoever. If I decide I NEVER want to use iCloud, well that's my business. Making my job and the jobs of all the users I service even a little more difficult in order to "persuade"

Re: New Pricing

Richard, I think this is the problem, isn't it? If you're going to support Linux in a way that is viable and attractive for people wanting a Linux based programming environment, this is not cutting it. To do that you have to make the Linux environment available in the same way you make Mac, Win

Re: The Owner of a background group

I have sometimes been tripped up by the fact the the long id of a control is in fact not very robust, in the sense that it will vary depending on which card you are currently on and where the stack is stored on disk. I needed a long ID equivalent that would be consistent no matter where it was c

Re: Button Basher

Hi Richmond, Whatever happened to "Button Basher"? I know it was an old program. I was looking on revOnline, and didn't find it, even with a search! Did it get moved somewhere else, and if so, do you have a link to it? Thanks, Rick On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > New

Re: The Owner of a background group

Pete. I would worry that cards can be shuffled. And using the "place" command can target any card. I would think that a library handler that automatically sets the "progenitor" property on group creation would be best. You can always ignore it. Craig -Original Message- From: P

Re: Resize stack

Peter, Do you mean the scroll position of the field or the stack (I'm not sure a stack can have a scroll position)? Probably something like this: on resizeStack put the vScroll of fld x into myScroll send "restoreScroll myScroll" to me in 0 millisecs pass resizeStack end resizeStack on re

Re: Older versions. Was "New Pricing".

On 08/21/2012 04:18 PM, Ken Corey wrote: On 21/08/2012 14:09, Richmond wrote: Why version 4.0 specifically? Why not version 3.0, or 2.0, or 5.0? I used the word 'say'. I would like it if Runrev offered all previous whole-number versions from 2.0 onwards with a rider that NO SUPPORT is offe

Re: Older versions. Was "New Pricing".

On 21/08/2012 14:09, Richmond wrote: Why version 4.0 specifically? Why not version 3.0, or 2.0, or 5.0? I used the word 'say'. I would like it if Runrev offered all previous whole-number versions from 2.0 onwards with a rider that NO SUPPORT is offered Offered or not people who pay expect

Re: Weird speed problem

On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Lars Brehmer wrote: > I am looking for tips on how to solve a strange problem I am having. > > I have two very similar stacks that are behaving very differently speed wise. > … > The stacks are very similar - the faster one is based entirely on the older > one! Wha

Older versions. Was "New Pricing".

On 08/21/2012 03:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: > 108. This reverts to my earlier question as to why RunRev aren't > prepared to market earlier versions > (say version 4.0) at a relatively reduced rate to folks like the > example above. Why version 4.0 specifically? Why not versi

Re: New Pricing

Richmond wrote: > 1. No way am I going to pay a monthly fee, as for, say, 4 months I > may do nothing, and then, > all of a sudden, I may have to prepare 5 stacks. > > 2. Yer, right, I could go on and on. And indeed you have, for about half a dozen posts. Meanwhile, just two days ago Kevin wrot

Re: New Pricing

On 08/21/2012 03:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: > 1. No way am I going to pay a monthly fee, as for, say, 4 months I > may do nothing, and then, > all of a sudden, I may have to prepare 5 stacks. > > 2. Yer, right, I could go on and on. And indeed you have, for about half a dozen

Bug with acceleratedRendering

Hi there If I use acceleratedRendering, the blendmode "transparent" set on images is not working. That is, white areas are not transparent, but opaque/white. OSX 10.6.8 Livecode 5.5.1 Thanks Michael ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.r

Re: has anyone worked on in-app purchase through google?

Just as I was about the consider these issues, google took my app down. Gotta love IP take-down notices: guilty until proven innocent. I ended up going through ejunkie (which was also stopped because the aggressors pursued us through paypal as well...ugh!). That said, the integration with ej

Re: New Pricing

The PAYG model seems to me one of the most important and better deccissions taken. Being an ocassional developer using LiveCode monthly payment model it is something I could afford, in other way will have to choose other platform, I spent some time with Corona last year because the same reason.

Re: New Pricing

On 08/21/2012 10:55 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: The pricing at the moment appears to be (is this right?) that if as a new customer you want Linux you pay either Gold Perpetual, at $1,000, or you go PAYG Cross Platform at $50 a month. PAYG seems very odd indeed . . . Suppose I am the sort of

New Pricing

The pricing at the moment appears to be (is this right?) that if as a new customer you want Linux you pay either Gold Perpetual, at $1,000, or you go PAYG Cross Platform at $50 a month. This seems to give you IOS, Android, Sever, Mac and Windows, none of which you may want, but they are includ

[OT] Compare and Contrast

http://www.mackiev.com/hyperstudio/hs_features.html OK, OK, OK, I know HyperStudio is for "babies", teeny-boppers [pace "Kaila Ponce" (is that a real name?)], Primary school teachers and so on. HOWEVER . . . some of these features (while not being rocket science as such) do seem quite appealin