Re: Need suggestions: very start of a stack revision system.
On 9/19/12 9:18 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 7:26:14 PM, you wrote: I just updated the Rev Interop page at lcj to reflect the URL to the new forum: http://livecodejournal.com/revinterop/index.html please joing the RIP Yahoo Group ? I don't see the poblem. -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
On 09/19/2012 09:16 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Okay I modified Richmond's experiment to include a send mouseup to button Single Undo at the end of the first buttons script, and the field does indeed remain hidden, so yes a series of screen locks do stack. Pardon me for the false info. I was wrong (not for either the first or the last time, LOL) . . . BUT: That 'multiple lockscreen' thing does seem illogical and/or daft, and it might not be a bad thing if it were changed so that 'locked' meant 'locked once' and was not ambiguous. Bob On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Richmond wrote: Richmond had a genius moment :) I made a wee stack called LOCKER with two buttons; Triple-Play and Single Undo and a fld fff containing the text UNLOCKED! the script of btn Triple-Play goes like this: on mouseUp set the vis of fld fff to false set the lockscreen to true set the lockscreen to true set the lockscreen to true end mouseUp the script of btn Single Undo goes like this: on mouseUp set the lockscreen to false if the lockscreen is false then set the vis of fld fff to true end if end mouseUp HOT, SCREAMING STUFF! so; click on btn Triple-Play which locks the screen THRICE, then; click on btn Single Undo which unlocks the screen ONCE, and, Bingo, Kazoom, Jumping Space Potatoes; fld fff becomes visible. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
FlexibleLearning apologises...
Mail is down here... It seems that any mail sent to flexibleLearning.com is being trashed by the ISP server, with no error or bounceback. If you have been trying to reach me, I have not responded because I am not getting any emails. I am trying to resolve the problem with the ISP and it has been escallated. Meanwhile, any urgent mail can be sent to flexiblelearn...@tiscali.co.uk (this seems to work) until the problem is sorted out. With best regards, Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need suggestions: very start of a stack revision system.
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 7:26:14 PM, you wrote: I just updated the Rev Interop page at lcj to reflect the URL to the new forum: http://livecodejournal.com/revinterop/index.html please joing the RIP Yahoo Group ? Fixed - now reads please join the forums. Thanks for the report. It was very expensive to make all of the changes necessary to move RevJournal.com to LiveCodeJournal.com, and now that Yahoo Groups is too flaky to use and we're bringing that into LCJ, we can expect that transition to also take some time to complete. If any of you have time and interest, I would happy to provide access to the site to help maintain and enhance it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS 6 crash
Hi, I`ve just installed iOS 6 in my iPhone and the apps I've made with LiveCode crash immediately while opening. :-( Is there any issue that we must update regarding to iOS 6 ? It only happens to me or does someone had the same troubles ? Thanks. __ Sergio Schvarstein sschvarst...@gmail.com __ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
Richmond- Thursday, September 20, 2012, 1:29:32 AM, you wrote: That 'multiple lockscreen' thing does seem illogical and/or daft, and it might not be a bad thing if it were changed so that 'locked' meant 'locked once' and was not ambiguous. It's actually quite useful as is. It means I can write smaller routines that fiddle with the screen, locking before and unlocking afterwards. I can then string these routines together in a larger construct, locking before and unlocking after, without needing to worry about the screen suddenly popping to life (and slowing things down) in the middle. Remembering to unlock after you've locked isn't any more cumbersome than remembering to close parentheses or quotes. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
I agree with Richmond. I cannot think of a case where I would want to lock a screen multiple times and then incrementally unlock the screen, knowing that the screen is still locked! I can think of examples where I would want to lock then unlock the screen while the script was still executing, but not multiple times stacked. Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Thursday, September 20, 2012, 1:29:32 AM, you wrote: That 'multiple lockscreen' thing does seem illogical and/or daft, and it might not be a bad thing if it were changed so that 'locked' meant 'locked once' and was not ambiguous. It's actually quite useful as is. It means I can write smaller routines that fiddle with the screen, locking before and unlocking afterwards. I can then string these routines together in a larger construct, locking before and unlocking after, without needing to worry about the screen suddenly popping to life (and slowing things down) in the middle. Remembering to unlock after you've locked isn't any more cumbersome than remembering to close parentheses or quotes. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I agree with Richmond. I cannot think of a case where I would want to lock a screen multiple times and then incrementally unlock the screen, knowing that the screen is still locked! I have several; it's quite common in what I'm writing. I have routines that want the screen locked that have other routines that want the screen locked. Those secondary routines, though, sometimes are called from different places from which the screen is not already locked--these can safely do an unlock, without worrying about whether or not they're nested, or by how many levels. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
Hi. Can't get simpler than that, eh? I assume you have no issues with earlier builds, that this is only a 5.5.2 thing? Craig Newman -Original Message- From: lunchnmeets lunchnme...@aol.com To: How use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:58 am Subject: Show/hide problem Hi Everyone, I'm probably missing something obvious. I just upgraded to v5.5.2 build 1492. I'm using OSX 10.6.8. When I enter: hide grp grpName or show grp GrpName into a script, it executes that and then nothing after it is working. I tried changing to visible and the same thing happens. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for all your help. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS 6 crash
Hi Sergio, I just noticed the same thing. My 2 crash as well. I'm assuming I have to recompile them and submit an update. Does anyone know if there is anything within the app that must be changed... or will an old stack that is recompiled run on iOS 6? - Charles On 2012-09-20, at 9:47 AM, Sergio Schvarstein sschvarst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I`ve just installed iOS 6 in my iPhone and the apps I've made with LiveCode crash immediately while opening. :-( Is there any issue that we must update regarding to iOS 6 ? It only happens to me or does someone had the same troubles ? Thanks. __ Sergio Schvarstein sschvarst...@gmail.com -- Charles E. Buchwald http://buchwald.ca Vancouver / Mexico City / NYC Member of the 02 Global Network for Sustainable Design • Connect on LinkedIn • Follow me on Twitter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS 6 crash
Hi there, The same crashes for me on my iPhone on iOS 6. Last year was the same thing with iOS 5. Recompiling should be enough. But testing on iOS 6 needs Xcode 4.5 and I don't know if LC 5.5.2 is compatible with it. I will test tonight. greetings, William 2012/9/20 Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.ca Hi Sergio, I just noticed the same thing. My 2 crash as well. I'm assuming I have to recompile them and submit an update. Does anyone know if there is anything within the app that must be changed... or will an old stack that is recompiled run on iOS 6? - Charles On 2012-09-20, at 9:47 AM, Sergio Schvarstein sschvarst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I`ve just installed iOS 6 in my iPhone and the apps I've made with LiveCode crash immediately while opening. :-( Is there any issue that we must update regarding to iOS 6 ? It only happens to me or does someone had the same troubles ? Thanks. __ Sergio Schvarstein sschvarst...@gmail.com -- Charles E. Buchwald http://buchwald.ca Vancouver / Mexico City / NYC Member of the 02 Global Network for Sustainable Design • Connect on LinkedIn • Follow me on Twitter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
Wrap the problem code in a try/catch construct. try hide grp grpName -- other code you want to include catch theError answer theError end try On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:05 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm probably missing something obvious. I just upgraded to v5.5.2 build 1492. I'm using OSX 10.6.8. When I enter: hide grp grpName or show grp GrpName into a script, it executes that and then nothing after it is working. I tried changing to visible and the same thing happens. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for all your help. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
The nested handler situation mentioned by Bob and Dr Hawkins are where the layered lock/unlock is useful. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I agree with Richmond. I cannot think of a case where I would want to lock a screen multiple times and then incrementally unlock the screen, knowing that the screen is still locked! I can think of examples where I would want to lock then unlock the screen while the script was still executing, but not multiple times stacked. Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Thursday, September 20, 2012, 1:29:32 AM, you wrote: That 'multiple lockscreen' thing does seem illogical and/or daft, and it might not be a bad thing if it were changed so that 'locked' meant 'locked once' and was not ambiguous. It's actually quite useful as is. It means I can write smaller routines that fiddle with the screen, locking before and unlocking afterwards. I can then string these routines together in a larger construct, locking before and unlocking after, without needing to worry about the screen suddenly popping to life (and slowing things down) in the middle. Remembering to unlock after you've locked isn't any more cumbersome than remembering to close parentheses or quotes. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Oval Bug in iOS
Greetings! If you grow an oval with a repeat loop that incrementally increases its width and height, it works fine in the IDE and standalone Mac app. But, if you run the same code in the iOS simulator or an iPad, there is a small sector missing at 3 o'clock. It looks like the oval has settings of a startAngle of about 1 or 2, with an arcAngle of about 358 or 359. Any ideas? Thanks very much! Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS 6 crash
Thanks for the answers. I will try to recompile with 5.5.2 and Xcode 4.4.1 and send an update. And I hope Runrev people can tell us some more details. I still prefer not to change Xcode version untill knowing more about this issues. William, please let us know your results with Xcode 4.5. Greetings, __ Sergio Schvarstein __ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
On 9/20/12 10:30 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I agree with Richmond. I cannot think of a case where I would want to lock a screen multiple times and then incrementally unlock the screen, knowing that the screen is still locked! I can think of examples where I would want to lock then unlock the screen while the script was still executing, but not multiple times stacked. It's necessary often. The useful behavior dates back 25 years. When a called handler needs to lock and unlock the screen it shouldn't need to worry about whether it was called from a handler while the screen is unlocked, or one where the screen is already locked and shouldn't be changed. For example: on moveStuffAround lock screen move and hide/show objects unlock screen end moveStuffAround on goToCard pCd lock screen go cd pCd moveStuffAround unlock screen end goToCard on changeStuff put the cProp of btn 1 into tProp if tProp = true then moveStuffAround end changeStuff When going to another card the screen will remain locked even though the calls are nested. When changeStuff is called, the screen will only lock if it needs to moveStuffAround. The calling handler doesn't need to worry about the state of the screen. MoveStuffAround might be called from a library, perhaps a commercial one, where the user may not even know the screen needs to be locked, and where the user's scripts may or may not have already done so. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
2012/9/20 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com: On 9/20/12 10:30 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I agree with Richmond. I cannot think of a case where I would want to lock a screen multiple times and then incrementally unlock the screen, knowing that the screen is still locked! I can think of examples where I would want to lock then unlock the screen while the script was still executing, but not multiple times stacked. It's necessary often. The useful behavior dates back 25 years. When a called handler needs to lock and unlock the screen it shouldn't need to worry about whether it was called from a handler while the screen is unlocked, or one where the screen is already locked and shouldn't be changed. +1 Another context is using a third party library which does use the lockscreen. As a user of this library, it will always works whatever your calling handler has locked or not the screen. Thierry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
Hi Again: Thanks for your responses Craig and Bob. I need all the help I can get sometimes. I found out two things. 1) When I got information on each of my stacks it wasn't showing that it was using v5.5.2. So I fixed that. 2) At one time the about live code screen said setting defaults. I may have interfered with that process. How do I reset those defaults if necessary? Maybe one of those defaults is not set properly and causing the problem. In the version I was using when I opened a stack it automatically opened the liveCard app. It also put the bar across the top that started with Inspector. Even though I've been using liveCode for a while I don't know what that is called. Now I have to open the app first and then the stack. I probably need a line in my startup routine to address that. I tried to go back to a previous version, but I couldn't. Joe Orlando, FL USA On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:57:44 AM, lunchnmeets lunchnme...@aol.com wrote: From: lunchnmeets lunchnme...@aol.com Subject:Show/hide problem Date: September 20, 2012 10:57:44 AM EDT To: How use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Hi Everyone, I'm probably missing something obvious. I just upgraded to v5.5.2 build 1492. I'm using OSX 10.6.8. When I enter: hide grp grpName or show grp GrpName into a script, it executes that and then nothing after it is working. I tried changing to visible and the same thing happens. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for all your help. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
Hi. In the preferences menu, all the way at the bottom... Craig Newman -Original Message- From: lunchnmeets lunchnme...@aol.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 1:48 pm Subject: Re: Show/hide problem Hi Again: Thanks for your responses Craig and Bob. I need all the help I can get sometimes. I found out two things. 1) When I got information on each of my stacks it wasn't showing that it was using v5.5.2. So I fixed that. 2) At one time the about live code screen said setting defaults. I may have interfered with that process. How do I reset those defaults if necessary? Maybe one of those defaults is not set properly and causing the problem. In the version I was using when I opened a stack it automatically opened the liveCard app. It also put the bar across the top that started with Inspector. Even though I've been using liveCode for a while I don't know what that is called. Now I have to open the app first and then the stack. I probably need a line in my startup routine to address that. I tried to go back to a previous version, but I couldn't. Joe Orlando, FL USA On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:57:44 AM, lunchnmeets lunchnme...@aol.com wrote: From: lunchnmeets lunchnme...@aol.com Subject:Show/hide problem Date: September 20, 2012 10:57:44 AM EDT To: How use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Hi Everyone, I'm probably missing something obvious. I just upgraded to v5.5.2 build 1492. I'm using OSX 10.6.8. When I enter: hide grp grpName or show grp GrpName into a script, it executes that and then nothing after it is working. I tried changing to visible and the same thing happens. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for all your help. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
revMail to Browser
Greetings! I am sure this has come up before, but what does one do when you use the revMail command: revMail m...@someaddress.com,,eMailTitle,field eMailContent and the user isn't using a mail client like Mail or Outlook, but gMail in a web browser. Is there a call to do this? Or perhaps a workaround? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks in advance, -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
Joe- Thursday, September 20, 2012, 10:47:28 AM, you wrote: I tried to go back to a previous version, but I couldn't. set the stackfileversion to 2.7 save stack -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revMail to Browser
If there is already email client application associated with mailto: links (which is what revMail is using), the gMail Notifier add-on can help by assigning a default browser to handle them. http://toolbar.google.com/gmail-helper/notifier_windows.html I always set it to NOT start when Windows starts, but the options still allow you to assign a default browser for mailto: links. ~Roger On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Dan Friedman d...@clearvisiontech.comwrote: Greetings! I am sure this has come up before, but what does one do when you use the revMail command: revMail m...@someaddress.com,,eMailTitle,field eMailContent and the user isn't using a mail client like Mail or Outlook, but gMail in a web browser. Is there a call to do this? Or perhaps a workaround? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks in advance, -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] listing installed software on Linux
type this into a terminal emulator: dpkg --get-selections installed-software this will dump a text file called 'installed-software' in your HOME folder. This WILL NOT list software such as RunRev/Livecode as it is not installed in the system-qua-system, but is normally in the HOME folder. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
SO . . . there is a 'political divide' over those who think that multiple lockscreens followed by multiple unlockings is a good thing, and those who think it is a bad thing. What to do ? Well, here's a thought . . . Would things not be easier to understand if each subsequent lockscreen was signalled in some sort of way so one can keep track of all the nested lockscreens - Tangential Burble follows. - This makes me think of why I fell in love with SWITCH and CASE, after developing cluster headaches over embedded FOR . . . NEXT loops . . . . . . . oh, Dear, I suddenly remembered GOSUB in some variety of BASIC . . . . running for the toilet. - Enough of that. - At present (as I'm sure 99% of the readers of this Use-List already know) each lockscreen is initiated like this: set the lockscreen to true and, as we have all recently become, almost painfully, aware, you can do that as many times as you like, but then have to do set the lockscreen to false just as many times to reverse the process --- How about being able to give each LOCKSCREEN command a name: set lockscreen A to true set lockscreen B to true it may look a bit odd at first, but it would make keeping track of multiple screen lockings a whole lot simpler. AND what about set the lockscreens to false where 'lockscreens' would unlock all screen lockings at once? --- Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Show/hide problem more information
Hi Again. Thanks for your patience on this issue. There's obviously something wrong with Show and Hide. Now I've gone through several scripts. Every time the script encounters a show or hide it executes that and then nothing that follows is done. I reset the preferences and I even reinstalled v5.5.2. I tried going back to a previous version but I deleted it from my computer so now I'm stuck. I can't imagine why this is happening. Could something trap a show or hide after execution? Obviously I did something seriously wrong. Oh, and one more thing. Every time I use the inspector it wants me to save it. That's annoying and unnecessary. I shouldn't even be able to change the inspector, at least I don't think so. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem more information
On 9/20/12 2:40 PM, lunchnmeets wrote: Hi Again. Thanks for your patience on this issue. There's obviously something wrong with Show and Hide. Now I've gone through several scripts. Every time the script encounters a show or hide it executes that and then nothing that follows is done. When that happens, the problem isn't with the command that executes, it's in the line that immediately follows. Something right after that is causing an error and aborting the rest of the script. Every time I use the inspector it wants me to save it. I saw that occasionally in an older version. The IDE was opening the inspector as top-level. Usually restarting LiveCode fixed it. I haven't seen it in a while so maybe it got fixed. In the version I was using when I opened a stack it automatically opened the liveCard app. It also put the bar across the top that started with Inspector. Even though I've been using liveCode for a while I don't know what that is called. Now I have to open the app first and then the stack. I probably need a line in my startup routine to address that. That's the toolbar. There's something in your scripts that is either blocking or hiding the toolbar. If it happens again you can restore it from the View menu; choose Toolbar Icons and/or Toolbar Text. User stacks should not be getting a startup message in the IDE. If you have a startup handler and it runs when you open your stack, then you should start the IDE first so it can load before your stack does. When you do that, your own stack will not get a startup message. The solution is to move the startup instructions to a preOpenStack handler located on the first card. It will work identically and you'll avoid these issues. Some of the other problems you're having may be fixed by not using a startup handler too. If the IDE isn't loading completely then who knows what could be failing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
Face it Richmond. It's you and me against the world. ;-) Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 2:07 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 9/20/12 2:31 PM, Richmond wrote: Would things not be easier to understand if each subsequent lockscreen was signalled in some sort of way so one can keep track of all the nested lockscreens I think that would increase complexity and decrease functionality. As Thierry pointed out, scripts would break if you use anyone else's libraries. And there's not much advantage to tracking all that when the engine does it for you anyway. At present (as I'm sure 99% of the readers of this Use-List already know) each lockscreen is initiated like this: set the lockscreen to true and, as we have all recently become, almost painfully, aware, you can do that as many times as you like, but then have to do set the lockscreen to false just as many times to reverse the process Not really. You don't have to track it at all. There are several ways to handle it: 1. Just ignore it. When the handlers are done the screen will unlock automatically. 2. If you always pair locks and unlocks in each handler, the situation will never arise. 3. If you do feel that you simply must make sure the screen is unlocked, the method is three lines of code: repeat until the lockscreen is false unlock screen end repeat But I can't remember ever needing to do that. Have you ever run up against a problem with it? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Need help
I have a main card with a button on it, the button has icons . When I click the button it opens a sub card. Some times on the sub card, I can see the icon from the main card. Why does this happen and how can I stop it ? Thanks Terence web:http://www.ctec.co.nz ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: lock/unlock screen
Bob Sneidar bobs@... writes: Face it Richmond. It's you and me against the world. Uh oh. Look out, world. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] listing installed software on Linux
Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes: dpkg --get-selections installed-software dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory My guess is you're running one of those ubuntu-thingies. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need help
Sounds like the screen is not refreshing properly. Do you have any screen locks, message locks, etc in the buttons or cards? Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Terence Blyth wrote: I have a main card with a button on it, the button has icons . When I click the button it opens a sub card. Some times on the sub card, I can see the icon from the main card. Why does this happen and how can I stop it ? Thanks Terence web:http://www.ctec.co.nz ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need help
Hi thanks, I have in preOpenCard at the start lock screen and at the end PreOpenCard unlock screen. Could this do it ? Thanks Terence On 21/09/2012, at 10:14 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Sounds like the screen is not refreshing properly. Do you have any screen locks, message locks, etc in the buttons or cards? Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Terence Blyth wrote: I have a main card with a button on it, the button has icons . When I click the button it opens a sub card. Some times on the sub card, I can see the icon from the main card. Why does this happen and how can I stop it ? Thanks Terence web:http://www.ctec.co.nz ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need help
I bet it could. One way to find out: Comment out the lock screen. Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Terence Blyth wrote: Hi thanks, I have in preOpenCard at the start lock screen and at the end PreOpenCard unlock screen. Could this do it ? Thanks Terence On 21/09/2012, at 10:14 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Sounds like the screen is not refreshing properly. Do you have any screen locks, message locks, etc in the buttons or cards? Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Terence Blyth wrote: I have a main card with a button on it, the button has icons . When I click the button it opens a sub card. Some times on the sub card, I can see the icon from the main card. Why does this happen and how can I stop it ? Thanks Terence web:http://www.ctec.co.nz ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need help
On 9/20/12 5:19 PM, Terence Blyth wrote: Hi thanks, I have in preOpenCard at the start lock screen and at the end PreOpenCard unlock screen. Could this do it ? Not really. But I'm not sure what you mean by a sub card. Do you mean just another card in the stack? If so, you've probably added the button to a shared group and that group has been placed on the other card. You can unplace the group from that card using the Objects menu - Remove group. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need help
Except that the initial email said it was intermittent. I have had something like this happen to me whilst messing with locking screens in preopencard handlers. Not sure what I did to remedy it though. I would get datagrid redraw problems and what not. Gave me a start the first time I saw it I can tell you! Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 9/20/12 5:19 PM, Terence Blyth wrote: Hi thanks, I have in preOpenCard at the start lock screen and at the end PreOpenCard unlock screen. Could this do it ? Not really. But I'm not sure what you mean by a sub card. Do you mean just another card in the stack? If so, you've probably added the button to a shared group and that group has been placed on the other card. You can unplace the group from that card using the Objects menu - Remove group. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Show/hide problem
Hi Again, Thanks Jackie. OK, there was a problem with my startup script. It involved a repeat loop I used to get rid of pendingMessages(). When I disabled that the toolBar was shown again. I can't figure out where to put Choose Browse Tool it doesn't seem to work in the preOpenStack handler. I'm still have a problem with show and hide but I have some things I want to try. I didn't have these problems when I was using v4.6.3 The Try structure didn't find an error because as soon as the script hit a show or a hide it did that action and then it exited to the top so the script didn't see the catch theerror Since I don't seem to have the show hide problem the first time I use the script after I restart liveCode. There's obviously something I'm doing wrong. So I'm still diagnosing it. Let me know if you think of a direction for me to go. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: strange htmltext problem
I've discovered that my htmltext problem with sub tags does not happen in 5.5.1. Unfortunately I want to use the code in a plugin so it really has to work in all recent versions of LC. Past experience suggests that there's not much hope of getting a bug fixed in a version when there's a later version in which it's already fixed. Ahhh, the joys of writing plugins! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I'm having issues with htmltext also. I'm using the sub tag to do the equivalent of setting the textshift of a character and the img tag to do the equivalent of setting the imagesource, eg sub shift=2img src=1234 char= /sub I can clearly see this in the variable I use to set the htmltext, yet when I get the htmltext of the field, the sub clauses are sometimes there, sometimes not. Even if they are there, they don't have any effect. I'd really like to get this working if I can since using htmltext appears much faster than setting the imagesource and textshift on individual lines in the field when there are a large number of lines to be processed. This is with LC 5.5.0, OSX 10.7. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote: Hi friends, I have a strange htmltext problem with LC 5.52 while working on a rating thing (5 stars etc..) with a LOCKED field :-) I have this script: on mouseUp put 12345 into fld 1 repeat with i = 1 to 5 set the imagesource of char i of fld 1 to 1005 end repeat end mouseUp Works fine, 5 white stars appear, and when I check the htmltext of fld 1 I get: RETURNS added for readability p img src=1005 char=1 img src=1005 char=2 img src=1005 char=3 img src=1005 char=4 img src=1005 char=5 /p Fine so far, but when I set the htmltext of that field to the (Livecode approved?) string above, only ONE star appears and the htmltext reports: p img src=1005 char=12345 /p WTF? What am I missing? Any hints very appreciated! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] listing installed software on Linux
Those commands will only display software that was installed using the package manager. LiveCode is not installed using the package manager so it will not display. PS: I think you need to run that as root On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes: dpkg --get-selections installed-software dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory My guess is you're running one of those ubuntu-thingies. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
Do we all agree that this is worth asking for an enhancement? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote: Colin, Thanks, the upper 3rd is my current solution. Getting message whenever the working rect changes with a list rect(s) of open real-estate would allow me to deal with this, or I can just keep all input fields in the upper 3rd. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:26 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: detect keyboard height on mobile The situation is more complicated than you may be thinking. On iOS you can split the keyboard into two halves that slide up to half way, or you can undock and the keyboard remains intact, but sits halfway up the screen. You may want to always make sure that important text into fields are in the top third of the screen. On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I am running into the same issue on iOS also as I use generic resizing SW. The rect of the real-estate remaining would be nice to know. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
What is the nature of the group you are showing or hiding? Is it a datagrid? It's my opinion that preOpenStack should be used only for things that need to happen before the stack opens. If it can be put into an openStack handler, put it there. If you are trying to show a group on a card in a preOpenCard or preOpenStack handler, technically the group doesn't exist in memory yet. (Someone will correct me if I am wrong). What I do if I do not want the end user to see a bunch of setup stuff like showing and hiding objects on a card, is I put a lock screen in the preOpenCard handler, then I do all my setup stuff in the openCard handler. As soon as all the scripts are done, the screen will automatically unlock and refresh. Not sure if any of that helps. Bob On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:02 PM, lunchnmeets wrote: Hi Again, Thanks Jackie. OK, there was a problem with my startup script. It involved a repeat loop I used to get rid of pendingMessages(). When I disabled that the toolBar was shown again. I can't figure out where to put Choose Browse Tool it doesn't seem to work in the preOpenStack handler. I'm still have a problem with show and hide but I have some things I want to try. I didn't have these problems when I was using v4.6.3 The Try structure didn't find an error because as soon as the script hit a show or a hide it did that action and then it exited to the top so the script didn't see the catch theerror Since I don't seem to have the show hide problem the first time I use the script after I restart liveCode. There's obviously something I'm doing wrong. So I'm still diagnosing it. Let me know if you think of a direction for me to go. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
Andre, I agree. I'm on board! Ralph DiMola MIS Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original message- From: Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 23:29:48 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: detect keyboard height on mobile Do we all agree that this is worth asking for an enhancement? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote: Colin, Thanks, the upper 3rd is my current solution. Getting message whenever the working rect changes with a list rect(s) of open real-estate would allow me to deal with this, or I can just keep all input fields in the upper 3rd. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:26 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: detect keyboard height on mobile The situation is more complicated than you may be thinking. On iOS you can split the keyboard into two halves that slide up to half way, or you can undock and the keyboard remains intact, but sits halfway up the screen. You may want to always make sure that important text into fields are in the top third of the screen. On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I am running into the same issue on iOS also as I use generic resizing SW. The rect of the real-estate remaining would be nice to know. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
Hey guys Short term iOS only solution could be mergNotify and UIKeyboardWillShowNotification and parsing the pNotification parameter for it's size. Cheers Monte On 21/09/2012, at 9:29 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Do we all agree that this is worth asking for an enhancement? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote: Colin, Thanks, the upper 3rd is my current solution. Getting message whenever the working rect changes with a list rect(s) of open real-estate would allow me to deal with this, or I can just keep all input fields in the upper 3rd. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:26 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: detect keyboard height on mobile The situation is more complicated than you may be thinking. On iOS you can split the keyboard into two halves that slide up to half way, or you can undock and the keyboard remains intact, but sits halfway up the screen. You may want to always make sure that important text into fields are in the top third of the screen. On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I am running into the same issue on iOS also as I use generic resizing SW. The rect of the real-estate remaining would be nice to know. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
More preOpenCard Problems
A couple of weeks ago, I posted about strange problems I was having in preOpenCard. I thought I had got rid of them by moving some code into a separate handler and using send in zero to execute it. However, the problems are back, different ones this time. I can tell from various variables and files that a good portion of my preOpenCard code is not being executed. However, as on the last occasion, as soon as I go into debug mode to track down what is going wrong (almost always need a breakpoint command rather than a red dot), everything works. I also notice that things work differently, but still incorrectly, when the stack is run as a plugin than when it is run toplevel. I've tried the obvious debug methods of inserting either answer or put to the message box commands, but they also make things work correctly - I guess they delay processing long enough for whatever the problem is to go away. It doesn't feel like I'm doing anything unreasonable in the code: - Set some variables - Enable/Disable come controls - Open a prefs file and read its contents (create it and its enclosing folders if not present) - Check either demo expiration or valid license code - Put data into one of the fields - set the rectangle of the stack - Insert a front script - that's the very last thing I do before exiting preOpenCard I'm hoping for some suggestions as to how on earth to debug this. I'm using 5.5.0 on OSX 10.7.4 and I've also tried 5.5.1 with the same problem. Or maybe I should just move all the code to openCard and see if it works there since there's very little screen manipulation going on. preOpenCard just seems to be very flakey these days! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
Monte - is there a list of notification messages that mergNotify could potentially act on anywhere? Terry... On 21/09/2012, at 10:23 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hey guys Short term iOS only solution could be mergNotify and UIKeyboardWillShowNotification and parsing the pNotification parameter for it's size. Cheers Monte On 21/09/2012, at 9:29 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Do we all agree that this is worth asking for an enhancement? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote: Colin, Thanks, the upper 3rd is my current solution. Getting message whenever the working rect changes with a list rect(s) of open real-estate would allow me to deal with this, or I can just keep all input fields in the upper 3rd. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:26 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: detect keyboard height on mobile The situation is more complicated than you may be thinking. On iOS you can split the keyboard into two halves that slide up to half way, or you can undock and the keyboard remains intact, but sits halfway up the screen. You may want to always make sure that important text into fields are in the top third of the screen. On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I am running into the same issue on iOS also as I use generic resizing SW. The rect of the real-estate remaining would be nice to know. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Dr Terry Judd Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Eduction Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
My main issue is not iOS but Android where each vendor has his own keyboard and the user can install third party keyboards. Unless there is an API in the engine or they implement externals for both iOS and Android, there is no solution. I think the working screen rect should change if the keyboard is visible in my opinion. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.auwrote: Monte - is there a list of notification messages that mergNotify could potentially act on anywhere? Terry...le On 21/09/2012, at 10:23 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hey guys Short term iOS only solution could be mergNotify and UIKeyboardWillShowNotification and parsing the pNotification parameter for it's size. Cheers Monte On 21/09/2012, at 9:29 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Do we all agree that this is worth asking for an enhancement? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote: Colin, Thanks, the upper 3rd is my current solution. Getting message whenever the working rect changes with a list rect(s) of open real-estate would allow me to deal with this, or I can just keep all input fields in the upper 3rd. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:26 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: detect keyboard height on mobile The situation is more complicated than you may be thinking. On iOS you can split the keyboard into two halves that slide up to half way, or you can undock and the keyboard remains intact, but sits halfway up the screen. You may want to always make sure that important text into fields are in the top third of the screen. On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I am running into the same issue on iOS also as I use generic resizing SW. The rect of the real-estate remaining would be nice to know. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Dr Terry Judd Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Eduction Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
Not really, basically if you are poking around apple docs and you see there is a notification about something and you need it then you can use mergNotify to get it. For example if you go here: https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIWindow_Class/UIWindowClassReference/UIWindowClassReference.html Scroll to the bottom you will see the notifications related to UIWindow. Cheers Monte On 21/09/2012, at 11:03 AM, Terry Judd wrote: Monte - is there a list of notification messages that mergNotify could potentially act on anywhere? Terry... -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
I agree although an alternative might be a rect parameter to keyboardActivated. Hmm... I haven't done much LC android stuff because of the no externals issue. I see keyboardActivated is iOS only. How are you dealing with that? On 21/09/2012, at 11:25 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I think the working screen rect should change if the keyboard is visible in my opinion. -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: I agree although an alternative might be a rect parameter to keyboardActivated. Hmm... I haven't done much LC android stuff because of the no externals issue. I see keyboardActivated is iOS only. How are you dealing with that? I have a specific card for text input. When the user selects an input from a form, he is driven to that card that acts like a modal. The input field there is placed very high so there is a strong chance of it being visible but this is not the best solution. On 21/09/2012, at 11:25 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I think the working screen rect should change if the keyboard is visible in my opinion. -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
On 9/20/12 6:40 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: What is the nature of the group you are showing or hiding? Is it a datagrid? It's my opinion that preOpenStack should be used only for things that need to happen before the stack opens. If it can be put into an openStack handler, put it there. Maybe datagrids are a different beast, but I've never had trouble with preopencard. Its purpose is to allow us to set up everything before the card is drawn to screen, so that's what I use it for. If you are trying to show a group on a card in a preOpenCard or preOpenStack handler, technically the group doesn't exist in memory yet. (Someone will correct me if I am wrong). Okay. :) I thought that too for 20 years, but it's wrong. I was corrected a couple of years ago by Mark Waddingham when I reported an erroneous bug against it. Logic and intuition both told me that each message would fire sequentially as stack parts were loaded into memory. I operated on that assumption forever. Turns out it isn't true. The whole stack is loaded completely, THEN the messages are sent. To paraphrase Mark, otherwise there wouldn't be any card to send the messages to. Right. Duh. But then, I always feel a little stupid after talking with him. What I do if I do not want the end user to see a bunch of setup stuff like showing and hiding objects on a card, is I put a lock screen in the preOpenCard handler, then I do all my setup stuff in the openCard handler. As soon as all the scripts are done, the screen will automatically unlock and refresh. Shouldn't be necessary. I never bother. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
I agree although an alternative might be a rect parameter to keyboardActivated. Hmm... I haven't done much LC android stuff because of the no externals issue. I see keyboardActivated is iOS only. How are you dealing with that? I have a specific card for text input. When the user selects an input from a form, he is driven to that card that acts like a modal. The input field there is placed very high so there is a strong chance of it being visible but this is not the best solution. It would be much simpler to have a cross platform modal for text editing. Perhaps single and multiline options. -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
Hi Jacque, I don't know if I'm just unlucky or what but see my other current post about preOpenCard issues. I just moved all the preOpenCard code to openCard and now all my problems are gone well at least the Livecode ones. OK, SOME of the Livecode ones. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:35 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Maybe datagrids are a different beast, but I've never had trouble with preopencard. Its purpose is to allow us to set up everything before the card is drawn to screen, so that's what I use it for. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
On 21/09/2012, at 11:47 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: I agree although an alternative might be a rect parameter to keyboardActivated. Hmm... I haven't done much LC android stuff because of the no externals issue. I see keyboardActivated is iOS only. How are you dealing with that? I have a specific card for text input. When the user selects an input from a form, he is driven to that card that acts like a modal. The input field there is placed very high so there is a strong chance of it being visible but this is not the best solution. It would be much simpler to have a cross platform modal for text editing. Perhaps single and multiline options. I'd be happy with that. Dr Terry Judd Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Eduction Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Show/hide problem
I have tried and shifted all code to the openCard from preOpenCard, this has not fixed the problem. It is interesting that my resizing of controls looks different when running from the two different handlers. I will try a new card stack tonight to see if I can recreate the problem. Thanks for all your help Cheers Terence Blyth Managing Director Computer Technologies Ltd Computer Technologies Ltd 27 Selwyn Place, Nelson City Nelson 7014 Email: tere...@ctec.co.nz Phone: +64 3 545 9001 Fax: +64 3 545 9002 Mobile: +64 21 220 5670 Please consider the environment before printing this email. All information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the designated addressee and cannot be passed on to any third party without the express written consent of Computer Technologies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be Unlawful. -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Peter Haworth Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012 1:58 p.m. To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Show/hide problem Hi Jacque, I don't know if I'm just unlucky or what but see my other current post about preOpenCard issues. I just moved all the preOpenCard code to openCard and now all my problems are gone well at least the Livecode ones. OK, SOME of the Livecode ones. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:35 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Maybe datagrids are a different beast, but I've never had trouble with preopencard. Its purpose is to allow us to set up everything before the card is drawn to screen, so that's what I use it for. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: detect keyboard height on mobile
It would be much simpler to have a cross platform modal for text editing. Perhaps single and multiline options. Except sometimes you wish your editing was not modal... A client complained about the modal editing, he wanted me to provide in-place editing for the apps forms but since they were complex forms that went below the the middle of the card, I could not provide in-place editing because the keyboard would launch on top of the fields. My solution was to hard code some modal inputs which is not bad but still I need to figure out where to place the controls on the modal input card. For example is my ok button too far down that it will overlap with the keyboard? This is a hard question to answer. Not all inputs are single line. Sometimes you have a text area input, how tall can this text area be before it overlaps with the keyboard? I want the working screenrect to tell me that information. =) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can I develop my IOS app away from my home computer?
Hi Howard, the solution is AirLaunch : http://hyperactivesw.com/airlaunch/index.html ... a very useful plugin for LiveCode. :-) Guglielmo On 21.09.2012 07:16, Howard Bornstein wrote: I need to be somewhere away from home for several weeks and want to continue to develop my IOS app while away. I can bring LC and the SDK to this computer. So I know I can develop code and check it in the simulator. But is there any way I can get an app loaded on my iphone to test when I am not near my home computer? As far as I can tell, iTunes won't sync with my iPhone (which would allow an updated version of my app to get loaded on the phone) unless I sync to the computer where I originally set up my iPhone (ok, it will, but it will wipe out everything currently on my phone). Is there any other way I can get a new, compiled mobile standalone to upload onto my phone without syncing to my home computer? I haven't used Xcode for this but is there a way to upload an app directly to the iPhone using Xcode and bypassing iTunes altogether? If so, would someone please describe the steps to someone who has only used LC/iTunes to get apps onto their phone? I am in your debt. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can I develop my IOS app away from my home computer?
Hi Howard, You can use Dropbox for this. Compile an app with one button. The button is linked to a stack op Dropbox. Put the app on your iPhone. Use LC to edit the stack on Dropbox. Refreshing the app on your iPhone gives you the latest changes. Scott Rossi put this on the list a few months ago. Greetings, William Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 21 sep. 2012 om 07:16 heeft Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com het volgende geschreven: I need to be somewhere away from home for several weeks and want to continue to develop my IOS app while away. I can bring LC and the SDK to this computer. So I know I can develop code and check it in the simulator. But is there any way I can get an app loaded on my iphone to test when I am not near my home computer? As far as I can tell, iTunes won't sync with my iPhone (which would allow an updated version of my app to get loaded on the phone) unless I sync to the computer where I originally set up my iPhone (ok, it will, but it will wipe out everything currently on my phone). Is there any other way I can get a new, compiled mobile standalone to upload onto my phone without syncing to my home computer? I haven't used Xcode for this but is there a way to upload an app directly to the iPhone using Xcode and bypassing iTunes altogether? If so, would someone please describe the steps to someone who has only used LC/iTunes to get apps onto their phone? I am in your debt. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
On 9/20/12 8:58 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Jacque, I don't know if I'm just unlucky or what but see my other current post about preOpenCard issues. I just moved all the preOpenCard code to openCard and now all my problems are gone well at least the Livecode ones. OK, SOME of the Livecode ones. In this particular case, I'd suspect the frontscript. If it's the one I'm thinking of, it duplicates some of LiveCode's frontscript (which I understand is necessary for what you want to do.) I'd guess that moving it down the message path avoids some conflict. That might be why any type of delay fixes it too; the IDE's script gets a chance to run first. Just a guess. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can I develop my IOS app away from my home computer?
Take a look at mergTestApp's fruitstrap button ;-) As you will have LC, Xcode, your phone and your cord you will be set. Cheers Monte On 21/09/2012, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: I need to be somewhere away from home for several weeks and want to continue to develop my IOS app while away. I can bring LC and the SDK to this computer. So I know I can develop code and check it in the simulator. But is there any way I can get an app loaded on my iphone to test when I am not near my home computer? As far as I can tell, iTunes won't sync with my iPhone (which would allow an updated version of my app to get loaded on the phone) unless I sync to the computer where I originally set up my iPhone (ok, it will, but it will wipe out everything currently on my phone). Is there any other way I can get a new, compiled mobile standalone to upload onto my phone without syncing to my home computer? I haven't used Xcode for this but is there a way to upload an app directly to the iPhone using Xcode and bypassing iTunes altogether? If so, would someone please describe the steps to someone who has only used LC/iTunes to get apps onto their phone? I am in your debt. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Show/hide problem
On 9/20/12 6:02 PM, lunchnmeets wrote: I can't figure out where to put Choose Browse Tool it doesn't seem to work in the preOpenStack handler. The IDE sets the tool late in its startup sequence. Generally you have to call a handler to do the job after after a short period of time, which allows the IDE to finish: on preOpenStack -- or openStack send chooseTool to me in 10 milliseconds -- adjust as necessary end preOpenStack on chooseTool choose browse tool end chooseTool Let me know if you think of a direction for me to go. Hard to say without knowing what the script does. If you can post a relevant portion of your scripts maybe we can spot something. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
