Re: HTMLtext in Label?

2014-05-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/05/14 07:18, Peter W A Wood wrote: Hi Scott This works for me in LiveCode 7 dp3: set the Label of Button Button to numToCodepoint(0x1D122) ;; bass clef Also pasting the correct character into the label field in the property inspector works under OS X (and may work on other

Add extra properties to objects.

2014-05-11 Thread Richmond
It would be really wonderful if one could add extra properties to objects; preferably from within Livecode rather than having recourse to other languages such as C++. http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=6t=20366 Richmond. ___ use-livecode

HTMLtext in Label?

2014-05-11 Thread Peter W A Wood
On Sunday, 11 May 2014, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','richmondmathew...@gmail.com'); wrote: On 11/05/14 07:18, Peter W A Wood wrote: Hi Scott This works for me in LiveCode 7 dp3: set the Label of Button Button to numToCodepoint(0x1D122) ;; bass

Re: HTMLtext in Label?

2014-05-11 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richmond I mistakenly typed 03A9 as 0349. A trip to the optician is in order. Regards Peter On Sunday, 11 May 2014, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, 11 May 2014, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/05/14 07:18, Peter W A Wood wrote: Hi Scott This

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Alex Tweedly
That's great news. Thank you ! Even if it can't be installed on a shared server, it should still be usable from a private one - and therefore usable for many people. Most importantly, if it can be installed on a local server for development testing then that would be the way to go. The old

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Robert Mann
Hi I would be happy to help advance the tools we have to share plugins etc... I've never co-worker in an open source thingy, so I would not be an initiator but a follower. How does such a group get constituted? Could something like *LOOMIO* provide a first group backbone? (/collaborative decision

Re: HTMLtext in Label?

2014-05-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter- Saturday, May 10, 2014, 9:18:18 PM, you wrote: set the Label of Button Button to numToCodepoint(0x1D122) ;; bass clef I CAN HAZ BASS CLEF! -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA)

Re: HTMLtext in Label?

2014-05-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/05/14 19:19, Mark Wieder wrote: Peter- Saturday, May 10, 2014, 9:18:18 PM, you wrote: set the Label of Button Button to numToCodepoint(0x1D122) ;; bass clef I CAN HAZ BASS CLEF! I think that should come with a rider that that is, presumably, for Livecode 7, and not for

Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Recent article published by Don Norman. http://www.jnd.org/dn.mss/error_messages_are_e.html Error messages punish people for not behaving like machines. It is time we let people behave like people. When a problem arises, we should call it machine error, not human error: the machine was

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Richard, Could you ask RunRev to consider using an open source web-based translation platform to translated LiveCode dictionary, docs, guides and tutorials? 1) https://www.transifex.com 2) https://launchpad.net 3) http://pootle.translatehouse.org/index.html 4) http://weblate.org 5)

Finding stacks on Mobile

2014-05-11 Thread Michael Doub
Can anyone clue me in on the proper use of library stacks in the mobile environment? I thought I understood it, but i guess not. I started putting my library code in substacks and I quickly realized that that causes name conflicts when in the IDE when trying to re-use the stacks and it kind

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/05/14 21:48, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Recent article published by Don Norman. http://www.jnd.org/dn.mss/error_messages_are_e.html Error messages punish people for not behaving like machines. It is time we let people behave like people. When a problem arises, we should call it machine

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/05/14 22:18, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richard, Could you ask RunRev to consider using an open source web-based translation platform to translated LiveCode dictionary, docs, guides and tutorials? 1) https://www.transifex.com 2) https://launchpad.net 3)

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Call me a naysayer, but I think the premise is nonsense. Only a perfect machine could conform to those standards, and there is no perfect machine. All will have or develop problems, and to not inform the user when that happens is irresponsible at best, and disastrous at worse. And it doesn’t

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote Having experimented quite a bit with web-based machine translation I think that is most unwise. However; it might not be a bad idea to use a machine-based translation first, and then follow it up by proper checking / style-editing / remedial

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Probably, the point of Mr. Donald Norman is: Reduce as much as possible the chance of human error... (Richmond wrote about this key concept in a previous message: affordance) http://www.jnd.org/dn.mss/affordances_and.html A truly collaborative system would tell me the requirements before I did

LiveCode uses in Science

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi all, Does LiveCode newsletters publish articles about LiveCode uses in Science? Just found this: http://eurekamag.com/research/036/892/context-congruency-effects-in-change-detection-opposing-effects-on-detection-and-identification.php

functionNames, commandNames, etc. not returning complete list

2014-05-11 Thread Mark
Hi list, I was mucking around in the IDE trying to get a complete list of function names, command names, etc., and wrote a simple script to produce a list: on mouseUp put the functionNames into field Display end mouseUp That produced a rather short list of 290 functions (the dictionary

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Dar Scott
Ah, I have much to learn. I said, “The house was painted red.” I should have said, “The house was painted redly.” Dar On May 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/05/14 21:48, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Recent article published by Don Norman.

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Dar Scott
Often I design communications without error responses to commands. Instead there is state information while the underlying system is working doggedly to make what you wanted work. On May 11, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Recent article published by Don

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread dunbarx
I am a person, and I behave like a person. That means that 99% of all mistakes, errors and harebrained methods are proudly mine. The machine is not perfect; LC has its peccadillos. But I would never have the temerity to accuse the machine being the source of my woes. Craig Newman

Re: functionNames, commandNames, etc. not returning complete list

2014-05-11 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 11.05.2014 at 14:17 Uhr -0800 Mark apparently wrote: That produced a rather short list of 290 functions (the dictionary lists close to 500). A quick check showed that there are no entries in the output that contain rev anything, among others. I'm assuming, probably incorrectly, that the

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
I'm interested. Can I get an example? I know Apple discourages error dialogs now. On May 11, 2014 5:44:47 PM CDT, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: Often I design communications without error responses to commands. Instead there is state information while the underlying system is working

[OT] Compilation of some of the best robotics articles

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
The wonders of hyperlinked information! :D http://explore.tandfonline.com/page/est/us-national-robotics-week-2014-roboweek Taylor Francis Online announces: In celebration of RoboWeek 2014, we have compiled a selection of some of our best robotics articles and made them free to view for the

Re: functionNames, commandNames, etc. not returning complete list

2014-05-11 Thread Peter Haworth
There are bug reports on this. Not only is there a lot of stuff missing but you'll also find things like abbrev which to my mind are keywords not functions. Pete lcSQL Software On May 11, 2014 3:17 PM, Mark mark@administrivia.solutions wrote: Hi list, I was mucking around in the IDE trying

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Perfect example - signing up for an account online and getting an error because your password didn't meet the site 's rules which they didn't reveal to start with. That's evil! Pete lcSQL Software On May 11, 2014 2:24 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Probably, the point of

Re: LiveCode uses in Science

2014-05-11 Thread Terry Judd
I'm sure I'm not the only one doing this butŠ I've used Livecode in some way to collect and/or analyse data for most of the papers I've authored or co-authored over the last 10-15 years. Unfortunately you won't find any/many specific mentions of Livecode in these articles as the convention is to

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Dar Scott
Sure. Here is a belabored example of my style of tenacious I/O. I typically start one each of a communications “machine with prefixStart command and stop it with prefixStop. The status is available though a status function and notification of the status change by a callback. A very simple

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Dar- Do not go gently into that good night. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Dar Scott
Long ago, deep in a previous century, I set up a Cromemco or MITS Altair for my secretary to do some word processing while I was out. When I came back, she was in tears. The computer told her, “Invalid! Jump to!” I looked at the screen. At the bottom was the line “Invalid jump to .”

Re: functionNames, commandNames, etc. not returning complete list

2014-05-11 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: However, many entries in the dictionary list are synonyms and those are not included by the functionNames, so the discrepancy is not so big. http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode That's interesting

Re: functionNames, commandNames, etc. not returning complete list

2014-05-11 Thread Mark
On 2014-05-11 17:07, Kay C Lan wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: However, many entries in the dictionary list are synonyms and those are not included by the functionNames, so the discrepancy is not so big.

Unicode

2014-05-11 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello, I am using version 6.1.0-rc-1 (Desktop) None of the unicode stuff works [for me]: * set the useUnicode to true * the unicodeText of field * the unicodeFormattedText of field No error messages; just empty. Can anyone give me a clue as to what to do ? Thanks, Alain

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Richmond
On 05/12/2014 01:41 AM, Dar Scott wrote: Ah, I have much to learn. I said, “The house was painted red.” I should have said, “The house was painted redly.” LOL! You made my Monday a thousand times more cheerful. Thanks so much. Richmond. Dar On May 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Richmond

Re: Unicode

2014-05-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Post a bug report. That is what pre-releases are for. http://quality.runrev.com/ Also, try with no plugins and a new set of preferences. Bob On May 11, 2014, at 17:31 , Alain Farmer alain_far...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I am using version 6.1.0-rc-1 (Desktop) None of the unicode stuff

Re: Error Messages Are Evil

2014-05-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I also meant to say that to imagine one could predict every kind of erroneous user input or machine fault and program around it is easy, but it’s just our imagination. In reality, it is a great deal more difficult to do. I remember articles written when Hypercard was rolled out, about how much

Re: Unicode

2014-05-11 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/11/2014 10:31 PM, Alain Farmer wrote: Hello, I am using version 6.1.0-rc-1 (Desktop) None of the unicode stuff works [for me]: * set the useUnicode to true * the unicodeText of field * the unicodeFormattedText of field No error messages; just empty. Can anyone give me a clue as to what to