Re: Launch URL to run Windows program using command line switches

2014-07-01 Thread Bill Vlahos
So I spoke too soon. It looks like the launch command doesn’t actually send 
command line options but rather sends the command to open the specified 
document by the specified application. So I can open the application with the 
document but not actually send it parameters other than to open a document 
which is not what I’m looking for.

Bill Vlahos

On Jun 30, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote:

 Skip,
 
 This is great. I’ve been struggling with this for a couple of weeks now 
 without success.
 
 This works for me when I point to a .exe file but not if I point to a link 
 file (.lnk) such as in the Start Menu folder. The reason I want to use the 
 .lnk file in Start Menu is that the actual application may be installed in a 
 number of locations (Program Files, Program Files (x86), file server, etc.) 
 but there is always a .lnk file in the Start Menu when the application is 
 installed.
 
 The cmd window in Windows7 supports command line options for .lnk files so I 
 wonder if this is a LiveCode limitation of the launch command.
 
 Thanks for the timely posting.
 
 Bill Vlahos
 
 On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel 
 s...@magicgate.com wrote:
 
 Got it working.  Ended up with this to get it working:
 
 launch c:/Program Files (x86)/MyProgram/file.exe /P
 QUOTEmyfile.txtQUOTE
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel 
 s...@magicgate.com wrote:
 
 Hello LC'ers,
 
 I need to launch a function within my LC application.  How would I
 properly format a launch URL statement that launches a file with command
 line options?  For instance, what I need to launch is:
 
 C:\Program Files (x86)\MyProgram\file.exe /P myfile.txt
 
 Every way I try to format the statement it does not work and get a can't
 open file.
 
 Here is what I am currently trying but failing miserably with:
 launch url file:c:\Program Files (x86)\MyProgram\file.exe /P
 QUOTEmyfile.txtQUOTE
 
 Your help is always appreciated!
 
 SKIP
 
 
 
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Re: Launch URL to run Windows program using command line switches

2014-07-01 Thread Bill Vlahos
Mark,

Bingo! I have it working now and it is a bit convoluted. The aliasReference 
command in conjunction with knowing the actual path to the Start Menu makes it 
work.

Here is the final code for Windows.
set the hideConsoleWindows to true —so we don’t get the cmd window 
flashing
put the aliasReference of C:/Documents and Settings/All 
Users/Start Menu/Programs/Zultys MX/MXIE.lnk into tLInk —actual path to .lnk 
file
put tLink  mxie cmd=show;call=  vNumber into vLink —combine 
the dial command with the phone number to dial
get shell(quote  vLink  quote) —execute the shell command

Whew!

Thanks everyone.

Bill Vlahos


On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Bill-
 
 Monday, June 30, 2014, 7:03:25 PM, you wrote:
 
 The cmd window in Windows7 supports command line options for .lnk
 files so I wonder if this is a LiveCode limitation of the launch
 command.
 
 For .lnk files, check out the aliasReference function.
 
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Re: WebRTC support and Chromium Embedded Framework in LiveCode

2014-07-01 Thread David Bovill
Thanks Alejandro - I just tested and on OSX with revBrowserOpenCEF (which
is Chrome 32) - I get a score of 472 rather than 503 for Chrome 32. It
looks like webRTC is not available on Chrome 32 version in CEF for OSX.

I'm not sure about Android and iOS versions yet?


On 1 July 2014 00:13, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to http://html5test.com/
 this new Chromium Embedded Framework
 is identified as Chrome 31 and scores 450
 from 555 points.

 http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=89t=20501



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Re: OT : Advice on SQL database design

2014-07-01 Thread Wolfgang Keller
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Have you ever thought of implementing something like a Naked Objects
framework for Livecode?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_objects
https://isis.apache.org/intro/learning-more/Pawson-Naked-Objects-thesis.pdf

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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Re: OT : Advice on SQL database design

2014-07-01 Thread Wolfgang Keller
 I guess there's a meta-question about what's a good book/source on
 SQL database design ?

http://tinyurl.com/mrab534
http://tinyurl.com/md84k87

Sincerely,

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Re: OT : Advice on SQL database design

2014-07-01 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 01.07.2014 at 1:23 Uhr +0100 Alex Tweedly apparently wrote:
I guess there's a meta-question about what's a good book/source on 
SQL database design ?


I am trying to design a database. There is one table which contains, 
let's say, Armed Forces Personnel

 - each row is a different person
 - columns include the obvious  name, date of birth, ... that 
are common to all

 - there is a column saying which armed force the person is in
  - and then there are additional, DIFFERENT fields depending on 
which one it is




You will get lots of advice, I am sure. Database design is a science 
and an art. What helps often is to identify data along the lines of


lists -- lists of values that are more or less fixed, like types of 
armed forces


data -- info that is varied from data record to record, like people names

links -- tables that cross-connect data and lists (but also may have 
own fields related to that connection, like a date of cross-linking)


Such division is not fixed but it helps to identify different types 
of information and initial structure.


Things to consider in the next step are variations (like people 
changing names), permutations (like people belonging to more than one 
armed force or changing their skills), expansions (like incorporation 
of addditional lists or further personal data), whether list data 
need to be frozen (here I mean that renaming an entry in a list will 
automatically rename it for all records; however, in some database, 
the entry for a given record should remain as it was at the time of 
entry even if the list is reworked later on), etc.


Next you consider various views and reports that you need to produce 
and see whether the structure supports them without too many 
complications.


Robert

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Re: WebRTC support and Chromium Embedded Framework in LiveCode

2014-07-01 Thread Mark Wilcox
I assume CEF doesn't build the WebRTC support in the Chromium project by
default because it has extra dependencies on the audio stack. I guess
LiveCode could include such support if it wanted.

Does LiveCode plan to bundle CEF on Android? Given the built-in web view
in Android is already based on Chromium that would seem like a lot of
bloat for little gain.

For iOS it's against the App Store rules to include your own browser
engine (no downloadable code execution allowed) and not even technically
possible to ship the V8 JavaScript engine (because you can't mark memory
both writable and executable - so can't ship your own JIT compiler). As
far as I know Safari doesn't yet support WebRTC on Mac OS or iOS. Even
when it does, there's not yet any guarantee that it will have a common
video codec with other implementations because the standards people
can't agree on a mandatory one.


-- 
  Mark Wilcox
  m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014, at 02:40 AM, David Bovill wrote:
 Thanks Alejandro - I just tested and on OSX with revBrowserOpenCEF (which
 is Chrome 32) - I get a score of 472 rather than 503 for Chrome 32. It
 looks like webRTC is not available on Chrome 32 version in CEF for OSX.
 
 I'm not sure about Android and iOS versions yet?
 
 
 On 1 July 2014 00:13, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  According to http://html5test.com/
  this new Chromium Embedded Framework
  is identified as Chrome 31 and scores 450
  from 555 points.
 
  http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=89t=20501
 
 
 
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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi

I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer site.
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/SubmittingYourApp/SubmittingYourApp.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582-CH9-SW1

In the LiveCode standalone setup when I select iPad and Landscape, the
selections for the setup are reduced. I noted that the Retina screens are
available to be added. I developed the app in 1024 x 768 not retina so I
have no way to obtain screens with this setting. Does Apple kick if the
retina screens are not provided? The same question is for the icons for the
app store.  Are hiRes Retina icons required?

Thank you

Vaughn Clement

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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 This is my first submission to iTunes using LiveCode after 1 year of work.

 I have a few questions:

 Because so many things have changed with LiveCode in the last several
 months, would it be better to use iTunes Connect to setup the files for
 submission to iTunes?

 Do I need to add anything to my openStack script to for my 1024 x 768 iPad
 screen to auto size between normal and retina screen resolutions?

 Is there a LiveCode description as to the settings of the splash screen,
 and the other screen captures for the LiveCode / iTunes connect
 submissions? This would include the different icon sizes and resolutions?
 What I am trying to find out is if there is a difference between the two
 approaches?

 Thank you

 Vaughn Clement

 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Chris Sheffield
Vaughn,

Not sure if you’ve received a response yet or not, but here are my answers as 
based on my experience.

Yes, you must use iTunes Connect in order to begin the app submission process. 
It’s iTunes Connect that ultimately “connects” everything together. That’s 
where you’ll create your app, upload the large app icon (1024x1024), upload 
screen shots, and specify other information (pricing, description, etc.). It’s 
mostly self explanatory I think. Once you’ve gone through the steps and are 
ready to submit your actual app bundle, you use Application Loader, which is 
part of Xcode.

You shouldn’t need to add any extra code to your open stack script to handle 
multiple screen resolutions, so long as you’re using a version of LiveCode that 
supports auto resizing/scaling. I imagine you already are, but just double 
check that. If you don’t have a retina screen device to test on (I would highly 
recommend trying to get your hands on one, if not), at the very least you 
should test using the simulator. You can simulate a retina screen device by 
selecting the appropriate options in the Hardware menu while the simulator is 
running. Are you using any images in your app? If so, and you want them to look 
nice and crisp on the retina screen, you’ll need @2x versions of each of your 
images. Of course, maybe you’re going the simple route and don’t need to do any 
of this.

I’m sure there’s a guide somewhere for the different sizes for the splash 
screen, screen shots, and icon sizes, but honestly, I find them to be 
confusing. :-) The following should help a bit.

For iTunes Connect, screen shots either have to be 1024 x 768, or 2048 x 1536. 
You don’t have to submit both sizes. Lately I’ve just been submitting the 
larger size. I believe the app store scales them as needed. I believe you have 
to submit at least one screen shot.

For the splash screen, the same sizes apply, but you *must* have one at each 
size if you’re supporting both screen types.

For the app icon sizes, this is where it gets fun. For non-retina, pre-iOS 7 
devices (if you’re supporting those) you need a 72x72 size icon. For retina, 
pre-iOS 7 devices (not sure why anyone would have a device like this, but I 
suppose it’s possible) you’ll double that, so 144x144. For non-retina iOS 7 
devices (iPad 2) you need a 76x76 icon. For retina iOS 7 devices, you need 
152x152. Yes, you need four different icon sizes if you’re supporting all iPads 
and versions of iOS. I’m sure you know, but there are places for each of these 
in the standalone application settings under the iOS tab. And it’ll warn you if 
you try to use an icon that’s not the correct size.

Hopefully that answers your questions. And hopefully someone will correct me if 
I’m wrong about any of this.

Good luck,
Chris

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On Jun 30, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 This is my first submission to iTunes using LiveCode after 1 year of work.
 
 I have a few questions:
 
 Because so many things have changed with LiveCode in the last several
 months, would it be better to use iTunes Connect to setup the files for
 submission to iTunes?
 
 Do I need to add anything to my openStack script to for my 1024 x 768 iPad
 screen to auto size between normal and retina screen resolutions?
 
 Is there a LiveCode description as to the settings of the splash screen,
 and the other screen captures for the LiveCode / iTunes connect
 submissions? This would include the different icon sizes and resolutions?
 What I am trying to find out is if there is a difference between the two
 approaches?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Chris Sheffield
I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not sure if 
apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else know? My company 
has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten use to providing 
everything that LiveCode has a space for.

You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the Hardware 
menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app. Then use Cmd-S to 
save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save to your desktop and 
can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.

As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in the 
simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you retina device 
users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or run smoothly, 
it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get your hands on a retina 
device to test on, do it. The simulator works “mostly” well for testing, but 
it’s still not the same as testing on an actual device.

On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer site.
 https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/SubmittingYourApp/SubmittingYourApp.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582-CH9-SW1
 
 In the LiveCode standalone setup when I select iPad and Landscape, the
 selections for the setup are reduced. I noted that the Retina screens are
 available to be added. I developed the app in 1024 x 768 not retina so I
 have no way to obtain screens with this setting. Does Apple kick if the
 retina screens are not provided? The same question is for the icons for the
 app store.  Are hiRes Retina icons required?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 This is my first submission to iTunes using LiveCode after 1 year of work.
 
 I have a few questions:
 
 Because so many things have changed with LiveCode in the last several
 months, would it be better to use iTunes Connect to setup the files for
 submission to iTunes?
 
 Do I need to add anything to my openStack script to for my 1024 x 768 iPad
 screen to auto size between normal and retina screen resolutions?
 
 Is there a LiveCode description as to the settings of the splash screen,
 and the other screen captures for the LiveCode / iTunes connect
 submissions? This would include the different icon sizes and resolutions?
 What I am trying to find out is if there is a difference between the two
 approaches?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
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Re: imageData

2014-07-01 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Monte.  I had the impression from the dictionary that imageData and
text were two separate properties but on reading again, I see one can be
derived from the other.

Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com
 wrote:


 On 1 Jul 2014, at 2:31 pm, stephen barncard 
 stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
 
  Wondering if there's a good reason why the imageData property of an
 image
  is not included in its properties?
 
 
  perhaps because the missing properties' data are either huge or
  multi-dimensional

 It's due to the no duplication rule of the properties property. imageData
 and alphaData are both covered by the text property in the same way text,
 unicodeText, styledText, rtfText is represented by htmlText.

 Cheers

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We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-01 Thread Heather Laine
Dear List Folks,

You told us we need to bring HTML5 Web Delivery to LiveCode. We listened:

http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/

We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
deployment, ASAP.Today we are launching the Crowd Funding Campaign to make it 
happen. This is a project for making LiveCode the complete app development 
solution that we all want, and to bring it to you faster. It’s a project to 
change the way we create and deliver apps.

If you want to see LiveCode deploying to the Web please get involved with the 
campaign. Pledge, donate, spread the word, tell your friends, tell your family, 
tell the postman... LiveCode needs YOU! This is the final frontier to making 
LiveCode the complete all round solution for app developers anywhere. No 
plugin, platform agnostic, run in any HTML5 capable browser. 

Learn all about it here:

http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/

Warm Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
http://www.livecode.com/


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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Chris

Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did not
know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the icons
for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it as
simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way to set
the size?

The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I was
not aware that was possible.

Thank you

Vaughn Clement

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On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
wrote:

 I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not sure
 if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else know? My
 company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten use to
 providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.

 You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
 Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app. Then
 use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save to
 your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.

 As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in the
 simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you retina
 device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or run
 smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get your
 hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works “mostly”
 well for testing, but it’s still not the same as testing on an actual
 device.

 On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi
 
  I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer site.
 
 https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/SubmittingYourApp/SubmittingYourApp.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582-CH9-SW1
 
  In the LiveCode standalone setup when I select iPad and Landscape, the
  selections for the setup are reduced. I noted that the Retina screens are
  available to be added. I developed the app in 1024 x 768 not retina so I
  have no way to obtain screens with this setting. Does Apple kick if the
  retina screens are not provided? The same question is for the icons for
 the
  app store.  Are hiRes Retina icons required?
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
  https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
  FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
  LogMeIn also avaialble
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  Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  This is my first submission to iTunes using LiveCode after 1 year of
 work.
 
  I have a few questions:
 
  Because so many things have changed with LiveCode in the last several
  months, would it be better to use iTunes Connect to setup the files for
  submission to iTunes?
 
  Do I need to add anything to my openStack script to for my 1024 x 768
 iPad
  screen to auto size between normal and retina screen resolutions?
 
  Is there a LiveCode description as to the settings of the splash screen,
  and the other screen captures for the LiveCode / iTunes connect
  submissions? This would include the different icon sizes and
 resolutions?
  What I am trying to find out is if there is a difference between the two
  approaches?
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Chris

I was able to create the 2 sets of screen shots no problem.

A question on the splash screen, in past apps i developed I don't recall
the need for a splash screen? Is this required for iTunes or from LiveCode?

Thank you

Vaughn Clement

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On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris

 Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did not
 know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the icons
 for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it as
 simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way to set
 the size?

 The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I was
 not aware that was possible.

 Thank you

 Vaughn Clement

 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
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 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:

 I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not
 sure if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else know?
 My company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten use to
 providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.

 You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
 Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app. Then
 use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save to
 your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.

 As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in the
 simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you retina
 device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or run
 smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get your
 hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works “mostly”
 well for testing, but it’s still not the same as testing on an actual
 device.

 On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi
 
  I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer site.
 
 https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/SubmittingYourApp/SubmittingYourApp.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582-CH9-SW1
 
  In the LiveCode standalone setup when I select iPad and Landscape, the
  selections for the setup are reduced. I noted that the Retina screens
 are
  available to be added. I developed the app in 1024 x 768 not retina so I
  have no way to obtain screens with this setting. Does Apple kick if the
  retina screens are not provided? The same question is for the icons for
 the
  app store.  Are hiRes Retina icons required?
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
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  FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
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  Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  This is my first submission to iTunes using LiveCode after 1 year of
 work.
 
  I have a few questions:
 
  Because so many things have changed with LiveCode in the last several
  months, would it be better to use iTunes Connect to setup the files for
  submission to iTunes?
 
  Do I need to add anything to my openStack script to for my 1024 x 768
 iPad
  screen to auto size between normal and retina screen resolutions?
 
  Is there a LiveCode description as to the settings of the splash
 screen,
  and the other screen captures for the LiveCode / iTunes connect
  submissions? This would include the different icon sizes and
 resolutions?
  What I am trying to find out is if there is a difference between the
 two
  approaches?
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
  https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
  FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-01 Thread Richmond

On 01/07/14 18:16, Heather Laine wrote:

Dear List Folks,

You told us we need to bring HTML5 Web Delivery to LiveCode. We listened:

http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/

We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
deployment, ASAP.Today we are launching the Crowd Funding Campaign to make it 
happen. This is a project for making LiveCode the complete app development 
solution that we all want, and to bring it to you faster. It’s a project to 
change the way we create and deliver apps.

If you want to see LiveCode deploying to the Web please get involved with the 
campaign. Pledge, donate, spread the word, tell your friends, tell your family, 
tell the postman... LiveCode needs YOU! This is the final frontier to making 
LiveCode the complete all round solution for app developers anywhere. No 
plugin, platform agnostic, run in any HTML5 capable browser.

Learn all about it here:

http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/



snip

I'm very sorry; but I am flat skint at the moment, and working hard to 
stump up the necessary funds

for my sons at University: one in Germany and the other in the USA.

Had I money I would send you some.

All I can offer you right now is my best wishes and a pious hope that 
the HTML5 deployment will NOT

rely on a web-download as did the LC version 4 revPlayer widget.

It certainly sounds very exciting indeed!

Richmond.

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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Chris Sheffield
Yes. I’ve found Preview to be very simple for resizing icons. Start with the 
larger one, open it in Preview, create a duplicate (so you’re not editing your 
original), then just resize to half the size via the Tools menu. Super simple. 
As far as quality goes, I’m not sure if other tools are better, but it gets the 
job done.

On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris
 
 Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did not
 know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the icons
 for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it as
 simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way to set
 the size?
 
 The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I was
 not aware that was possible.
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not sure
 if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else know? My
 company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten use to
 providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.
 
 You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
 Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app. Then
 use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save to
 your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.
 
 As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in the
 simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you retina
 device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or run
 smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get your
 hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works “mostly”
 well for testing, but it’s still not the same as testing on an actual
 device.
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer site.
 
 https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/SubmittingYourApp/SubmittingYourApp.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582-CH9-SW1
 
 In the LiveCode standalone setup when I select iPad and Landscape, the
 selections for the setup are reduced. I noted that the Retina screens are
 available to be added. I developed the app in 1024 x 768 not retina so I
 have no way to obtain screens with this setting. Does Apple kick if the
 retina screens are not provided? The same question is for the icons for
 the
 app store.  Are hiRes Retina icons required?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 This is my first submission to iTunes using LiveCode after 1 year of
 work.
 
 I have a few questions:
 
 Because so many things have changed with LiveCode in the last several
 months, would it be better to use iTunes Connect to setup the files for
 submission to iTunes?
 
 Do I need to add anything to my openStack script to for my 1024 x 768
 iPad
 screen to auto size between normal and retina screen resolutions?
 
 Is there a LiveCode description as to the settings of the splash screen,
 and the other screen captures for the LiveCode / iTunes connect
 submissions? This would include the different icon sizes and
 resolutions?
 What I am trying to find out is if there is a difference between the two
 approaches?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-01 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
wrote:


 All I can offer you right now is my best wishes and a pious hope that the
 HTML5 deployment will NOT
 rely on a web-download as did the LC version 4 revPlayer widget.


My concern is that it have local, in-memory SQLite wherever it happens to
be running, whether that be the browser or the server.


-- 
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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Chris Sheffield
Again, maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain the 
app *will not* be rejected if a splash screen is missing. It is recommended, 
but not required. A splash screen is especially helpful if your app takes some 
time to load. Otherwise, probably not absolutely necessary. Keep in mind, 
however, that if it’s missing, LiveCode will give you a warning whenever you 
build your app (at least, it used; I’m assuming this is still the case). 
Sometimes just supplying a simple black splash screen image is worth it to not 
have to click OK on that warning every time you build.


On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris
 
 I was able to create the 2 sets of screen shots no problem.
 
 A question on the splash screen, in past apps i developed I don't recall
 the need for a splash screen? Is this required for iTunes or from LiveCode?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did not
 know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the icons
 for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it as
 simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way to set
 the size?
 
 The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I was
 not aware that was possible.
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not
 sure if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else know?
 My company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten use to
 providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.
 
 You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
 Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app. Then
 use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save to
 your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.
 
 As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in the
 simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you retina
 device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or run
 smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get your
 hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works “mostly”
 well for testing, but it’s still not the same as testing on an actual
 device.
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer site.
 
 https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/SubmittingYourApp/SubmittingYourApp.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582-CH9-SW1
 
 In the LiveCode standalone setup when I select iPad and Landscape, the
 selections for the setup are reduced. I noted that the Retina screens
 are
 available to be added. I developed the app in 1024 x 768 not retina so I
 have no way to obtain screens with this setting. Does Apple kick if the
 retina screens are not provided? The same question is for the icons for
 the
 app store.  Are hiRes Retina icons required?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 This is my first submission to iTunes using LiveCode after 1 year of
 work.
 
 I have a few questions:
 
 Because so many things have changed with LiveCode in the last several
 months, would it be better to use iTunes Connect to setup the files for
 submission to iTunes?
 
 Do I need to add anything to my openStack script to for my 1024 x 768
 iPad
 screen to auto size between normal and retina screen resolutions?
 
 Is there a LiveCode description as to the settings of the splash
 screen,
 and the other screen captures for the LiveCode / iTunes connect
 

Re: WebRTC support and Chromium Embedded Framework in LiveCode

2014-07-01 Thread David Bovill
Ah yes - I see the Chromium Embedded framework is really desktop only - I
missed that. I'd like to down what the long term strategy regards browser
controls cross mobile and desktop is.

For instance *revBrowserAddJavaScriptHandler* is for now CEF specific - is
the plan to add this to mobile platforms?


On 1 July 2014 14:08, Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk wrote:


 For iOS it's against the App Store rules to include your own browser
 engine (no downloadable code execution allowed) and not even technically
 possible to ship the V8 JavaScript engine (because you can't mark memory
 both writable and executable - so can't ship your own JIT compiler). As
 far as I know Safari doesn't yet support WebRTC on Mac OS or iOS. Even
 when it does, there's not yet any guarantee that it will have a common
 video codec with other implementations because the standards people
 can't agree on a mandatory one.
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-01 Thread Alain Farmer
Bravo on bringing HTML5+Javascript Web Delivery to LiveCode. Awesome!
Btw, I crafted a MetaCard WYSIWYG-editor of dHTML .. back in the day.
Of-course it will be far-better coded natively; more maintained that's for sure!
Thanks for this GREAT project.
I will try to help [financially] when I become more sure of my means.
Alain



On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 11:33:16 AM, Heather Laine heat...@livecode.com 
wrote:
 


Dear List Folks,

You told us we need to bring HTML5 Web Delivery to LiveCode. We listened:

http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/

We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
deployment, ASAP.Today we are launching the Crowd Funding Campaign to make it 
happen. This is a project for making LiveCode the complete app development 
solution that we all want, and to bring it to you faster. It’s a project to 
change the way we create and deliver apps.

If you want to see LiveCode deploying to the Web please get involved with the 
campaign. Pledge, donate, spread the word, tell your friends, tell your family, 
tell the postman... LiveCode needs YOU! This is the final frontier to making 
LiveCode the complete all round solution for app developers anywhere. No 
plugin, platform agnostic, run in any HTML5 capable browser. 

Learn all about it here:

http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/

Warm Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
http://www.livecode.com/


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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-01 Thread Heather Laine
Richmond... No Plugin! There will be no download required.

Regards,

Heather

On 1 Jul 2014, at 16:59, Richmond wrote:

 On 01/07/14 18:16, Heather Laine wrote:
 Dear List Folks,
 
 You told us we need to bring HTML5 Web Delivery to LiveCode. We listened:
 
 http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/
 
 We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
 deployment, ASAP.Today we are launching the Crowd Funding Campaign to make 
 it happen. This is a project for making LiveCode the complete app 
 development solution that we all want, and to bring it to you faster. It’s a 
 project to change the way we create and deliver apps.
 
 If you want to see LiveCode deploying to the Web please get involved with 
 the campaign. Pledge, donate, spread the word, tell your friends, tell your 
 family, tell the postman... LiveCode needs YOU! This is the final frontier 
 to making LiveCode the complete all round solution for app developers 
 anywhere. No plugin, platform agnostic, run in any HTML5 capable browser.
 
 Learn all about it here:
 
 http://livecode.com/livecode-to-html5/
 
 
 snip
 
 I'm very sorry; but I am flat skint at the moment, and working hard to 
 stump up the necessary funds
 for my sons at University: one in Germany and the other in the USA.
 
 Had I money I would send you some.
 
 All I can offer you right now is my best wishes and a pious hope that the 
 HTML5 deployment will NOT
 rely on a web-download as did the LC version 4 revPlayer widget.
 
 It certainly sounds very exciting indeed!
 
 Richmond.
 
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So who is going to write the first monitor app?

2014-07-01 Thread Heather Laine
I need a widget on my desktop that goes ching when pledges arrive! 

Warm Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
http://www.livecode.com/









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Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Chris

I looked around Apple Developer Tech and did not find that article that
described the requirements for the Hi Res icons, but in the iTunes connect
managing application, the popup next to image stated the size and file
type. So I used the info and wala it accepted my icon.

Thank you

Vaughn Clement

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On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
wrote:

 Again, maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain
 the app *will not* be rejected if a splash screen is missing. It is
 recommended, but not required. A splash screen is especially helpful if
 your app takes some time to load. Otherwise, probably not absolutely
 necessary. Keep in mind, however, that if it’s missing, LiveCode will give
 you a warning whenever you build your app (at least, it used; I’m assuming
 this is still the case). Sometimes just supplying a simple black splash
 screen image is worth it to not have to click OK on that warning every time
 you build.


 On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Chris
 
  I was able to create the 2 sets of screen shots no problem.
 
  A question on the splash screen, in past apps i developed I don't recall
  the need for a splash screen? Is this required for iTunes or from
 LiveCode?
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
  https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
  FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
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  Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
  Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Chris
 
  Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did
 not
  know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the icons
  for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it
 as
  simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way to
 set
  the size?
 
  The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I
 was
  not aware that was possible.
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
  https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
  FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
  LogMeIn also avaialble
  Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
  Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 
  wrote:
 
  I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not
  sure if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else
 know?
  My company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten
 use to
  providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.
 
  You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
  Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app.
 Then
  use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save
 to
  your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.
 
  As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in the
  simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you retina
  device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or
 run
  smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get your
  hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works
 “mostly”
  well for testing, but it’s still not the same as testing on an actual
  device.
 
  On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer
 site.
 
 
 https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/SubmittingYourApp/SubmittingYourApp.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582-CH9-SW1
 
  In the LiveCode standalone setup when I select iPad and Landscape, the
  selections for the setup are reduced. I noted that the Retina screens
  are
  available to be added. I developed the app in 1024 x 768 not retina
 so I
  have no way to obtain screens with this setting. Does Apple kick if
 the
  retina screens are not provided? The same question is for the icons
 for
  the
  app store.  Are hiRes Retina icons required?
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
  

Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Chris

There is always a last minute issue RIGHT? From LC I created the
standalone app, and found that the Application Loader did not recognize the
file. It did not look right because it had a symbol like a no parking sign
with a circle with a line across the icon. Did I do something wrong?


Thank you

Vaughn Clement

Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
*http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
Skype: vaughn.clement
https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
LogMeIn also avaialble
Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
Ph. 928-254-9062



On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris

 I looked around Apple Developer Tech and did not find that article that
 described the requirements for the Hi Res icons, but in the iTunes connect
 managing application, the popup next to image stated the size and file
 type. So I used the info and wala it accepted my icon.

 Thank you

 Vaughn Clement

 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062



 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:

 Again, maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain
 the app *will not* be rejected if a splash screen is missing. It is
 recommended, but not required. A splash screen is especially helpful if
 your app takes some time to load. Otherwise, probably not absolutely
 necessary. Keep in mind, however, that if it’s missing, LiveCode will give
 you a warning whenever you build your app (at least, it used; I’m assuming
 this is still the case). Sometimes just supplying a simple black splash
 screen image is worth it to not have to click OK on that warning every time
 you build.


 On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Chris
 
  I was able to create the 2 sets of screen shots no problem.
 
  A question on the splash screen, in past apps i developed I don't recall
  the need for a splash screen? Is this required for iTunes or from
 LiveCode?
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
  https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
  FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
  LogMeIn also avaialble
  Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
  Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Chris
 
  Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did
 not
  know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the
 icons
  for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it
 as
  simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way
 to set
  the size?
 
  The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I
 was
  not aware that was possible.
 
  Thank you
 
  Vaughn Clement
 
  Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
  *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
  http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
  Skype: vaughn.clement
  https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
  FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
  LogMeIn also avaialble
  Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
  Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield 
 cmsheffi...@icloud.com
  wrote:
 
  I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not
  sure if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else
 know?
  My company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten
 use to
  providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.
 
  You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
  Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app.
 Then
  use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save
 to
  your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.
 
  As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in
 the
  simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you
 retina
  device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or
 run
  smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get
 your
  hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works
 “mostly”
  well for testing, but it’s still not the same as testing on an actual
  device.
 
  On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  I am following the guidelines in this link on the Apple developer
 site.
 
 
 

Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread PystCat
Now you need to select the file, right-click on compress it.  iTunes Connect 
needs to have the file compressed before it will see it.

 On Jul 1, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 There is always a last minute issue RIGHT? From LC I created the
 standalone app, and found that the Application Loader did not recognize the
 file. It did not look right because it had a symbol like a no parking sign
 with a circle with a line across the icon. Did I do something wrong?
 
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 I looked around Apple Developer Tech and did not find that article that
 described the requirements for the Hi Res icons, but in the iTunes connect
 managing application, the popup next to image stated the size and file
 type. So I used the info and wala it accepted my icon.
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Again, maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain
 the app *will not* be rejected if a splash screen is missing. It is
 recommended, but not required. A splash screen is especially helpful if
 your app takes some time to load. Otherwise, probably not absolutely
 necessary. Keep in mind, however, that if it’s missing, LiveCode will give
 you a warning whenever you build your app (at least, it used; I’m assuming
 this is still the case). Sometimes just supplying a simple black splash
 screen image is worth it to not have to click OK on that warning every time
 you build.
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 I was able to create the 2 sets of screen shots no problem.
 
 A question on the splash screen, in past apps i developed I don't recall
 the need for a splash screen? Is this required for iTunes or from
 LiveCode?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did
 not
 know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the
 icons
 for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it
 as
 simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way
 to set
 the size?
 
 The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I
 was
 not aware that was possible.
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield 
 cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not
 sure if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else
 know?
 My company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten
 use to
 providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.
 
 You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
 Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app.
 Then
 use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save
 to
 your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.
 
 As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in
 the
 simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you
 retina
 device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or
 run
 smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get
 your
 hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works
 “mostly”
 well for testing, but it’s still not the same as testing on an actual
 device.
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Vaughn 

Re: First LC Submission to iTunes

2014-07-01 Thread Randy Hengst
One more thing. No spaces the the file name after compressing. 

 On Jul 1, 2014, at 1:43 PM, PystCat pyst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Now you need to select the file, right-click on compress it.  iTunes Connect 
 needs to have the file compressed before it will see it.
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 There is always a last minute issue RIGHT? From LC I created the
 standalone app, and found that the Application Loader did not recognize the
 file. It did not look right because it had a symbol like a no parking sign
 with a circle with a line across the icon. Did I do something wrong?
 
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 I looked around Apple Developer Tech and did not find that article that
 described the requirements for the Hi Res icons, but in the iTunes connect
 managing application, the popup next to image stated the size and file
 type. So I used the info and wala it accepted my icon.
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Again, maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain
 the app *will not* be rejected if a splash screen is missing. It is
 recommended, but not required. A splash screen is especially helpful if
 your app takes some time to load. Otherwise, probably not absolutely
 necessary. Keep in mind, however, that if it’s missing, LiveCode will give
 you a warning whenever you build your app (at least, it used; I’m assuming
 this is still the case). Sometimes just supplying a simple black splash
 screen image is worth it to not have to click OK on that warning every time
 you build.
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 I was able to create the 2 sets of screen shots no problem.
 
 A question on the splash screen, in past apps i developed I don't recall
 the need for a splash screen? Is this required for iTunes or from
 LiveCode?
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 
 Your email is very helpful and it has pointed out several things I did
 not
 know. I recall awhile back seeing a description on how to size the
 icons
 for retina and then to scale the icon down for non retina icons. Is it
 as
 simple as reducing the icon to half the size or is there another way
 to set
 the size?
 
 The simulator screen capture is great advice for the retina display. I
 was
 not aware that was possible.
 
 Thank you
 
 Vaughn Clement
 
 Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
 *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
 http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
 Skype: vaughn.clement
 https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
 FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com
 LogMeIn also avaialble
 Call on ooVoo at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
 Ph. 928-254-9062
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Chris Sheffield 
 cmsheffi...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 I’m not totally sure about all the requirements to be honest. I’m not
 sure if apps will be rejected if icons are missing. Does anyone else
 know?
 My company has always supported all iPad models, so I’ve just gotten
 use to
 providing everything that LiveCode has a space for.
 
 You can still get retina screen shots. Just use the simulator. In the
 Hardware menu, select a retina device profile and re-launch your app.
 Then
 use Cmd-S to save a shot of whatever screens you’d like. They’ll save
 to
 your desktop and can be uploaded to iTunes Connect.
 
 As I mentioned before, I would highly recommend testing your app in
 the
 simulator with a retina device profile selected. I guarantee you
 retina
 device users will download your app, and if it doesn’t look decent or
 run
 smoothly, it’ll cause problems. And if it’s at all possible to get
 your
 hands on a retina device to test on, do it. The simulator works

Odd Empty behavior

2014-07-01 Thread William Prothero
Folks:
LC 6.6.0, OSX 10.9.3
I have the following script:

   put XX into test[data][a1]
   if test[data] is empty then
  answer It is empty
   else
  answer Not empty
   end if

I would think that if there was some value in test[“data”], it would return 
“Not empty”. However, it returns empty. I think this is a very unexpected 
behavior because I think of the “a1” value of test as a subarray, especially 
since test[“a1”] doesn’t have the set value. In fact, test[“data”] is not 
empty. It contains the subarray [“a1”].

Is this a bug or just a livecode oddity?

Thanks,
Bill

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Re: WebRTC support and Chromium Embedded Framework in LiveCode

2014-07-01 Thread Mark Wilcox
I'm getting the impression that the LiveCode roadmap is primarily user
demand driven, so there isn't really a long term strategy apart from
keep the platform relevant and grow the user base. :)

If you really want something relatively simple like this in the roadmap
I think pledging for the new campaign with a Premium (or maybe Pro)
license and asking them to do it sooner rather than later is the best
way forward! Alternatively it's simple enough that you could contract
someone to do it after all the refactoring is sorted for significantly
less than the cost of a Premium license.

I think the main issue with doing this for mobile platforms is backwards
compatibility. On Android the WebView completely changed (to a modern
Chromium base from an old WebKit base) in one of the recent releases
(can't remember which 4.x version) - making sure it works identically on
both might be tricky - Android has always had a simple method for doing
this though. On iOS this was only doable via fake URL load requests in
the WebView before iOS 7, then iOS 7 added an almost completely
undocumented and slightly cumbersome way of doing it properly. Now iOS 8
has added a new WKWebView with a much nicer way of doing it (and much
better JavaScript performance!).

So, it's going to be cheaper and easier to do via an external/extension
if you only care about newer platform versions but to get it into the
engine where it belongs means supporting all the platform versions that
LiveCode does.

-- 
  Mark Wilcox
  m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014, at 09:28 AM, David Bovill wrote:
 Ah yes - I see the Chromium Embedded framework is really desktop only - I
 missed that. I'd like to down what the long term strategy regards browser
 controls cross mobile and desktop is.
 
 For instance *revBrowserAddJavaScriptHandler* is for now CEF specific -
 is
 the plan to add this to mobile platforms?
 
 
 On 1 July 2014 14:08, Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk wrote:
 
 
  For iOS it's against the App Store rules to include your own browser
  engine (no downloadable code execution allowed) and not even technically
  possible to ship the V8 JavaScript engine (because you can't mark memory
  both writable and executable - so can't ship your own JIT compiler). As
  far as I know Safari doesn't yet support WebRTC on Mac OS or iOS. Even
  when it does, there's not yet any guarantee that it will have a common
  video codec with other implementations because the standards people
  can't agree on a mandatory one.
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Re: Odd Empty behavior

2014-07-01 Thread Peter Haworth
Livecode always returns true if you test an array for empty, although I
think that behavior might have changed in a recent release. test[data] is
an array since it has the a1 subkey.

I think this will tell you if test[data] has any subkeys or not and thus
whether it's empty or not:

if test[data] is an array

Pete
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:58 AM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org
wrote:

 Folks:
 LC 6.6.0, OSX 10.9.3
 I have the following script:

put XX into test[data][a1]
if test[data] is empty then
   answer It is empty
else
   answer Not empty
end if

 I would think that if there was some value in test[“data”], it would
 return “Not empty”. However, it returns empty. I think this is a very
 unexpected behavior because I think of the “a1” value of test as a
 subarray, especially since test[“a1”] doesn’t have the set value. In fact,
 test[“data”] is not empty. It contains the subarray [“a1”].

 Is this a bug or just a livecode oddity?

 Thanks,
 Bill

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Re: Odd Empty behavior

2014-07-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Bill:

Over here, I get not empty using both 6.6.0 and 6.6.1.

I was going to mention something about being careful with arrays and
determining empty values, but it looks like the RunRev guys changed how
the engine sees the contents of arrays.  A quick test:

In LC 5.5:

put XX into theArray[data]
answer theArray is empty -- RETURNS TRUE

In LC 6  7:

put XX into theArray[data]
answer theArray is empty -- RETURNS FALSE



Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 7/1/14 11:58 AM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote:

Folks:
LC 6.6.0, OSX 10.9.3
I have the following script:

   put XX into test[data][a1]
   if test[data] is empty then
  answer It is empty
   else
  answer Not empty
   end if

I would think that if there was some value in test[³data²], it would
return ³Not empty². However, it returns empty. I think this is a very
unexpected behavior because I think of the ³a1² value of test as a
subarray, especially since test[³a1²] doesn¹t have the set value. In
fact, test[³data²] is not empty. It contains the subarray [³a1²].

Is this a bug or just a livecode oddity?

Thanks,
Bill

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Re: Odd Empty behavior

2014-07-01 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/1/2014, 3:03 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Livecode always returns true if you test an array for empty, although I
think that behavior might have changed in a recent release.


Right. In 6.6.2, this returns not empty:

   put XX into test[data][a1]
   if test[data] is empty then
  answer It is empty
   else
  answer Not empty
   end if


--
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Re: Odd Empty behavior

2014-07-01 Thread William Prothero
Thanks, I’ll check it on later versions. This is a pretty important issue to 
me, so I’ll try to make sure I don’t rely on the test[“data”] empty property.
Thanks,
Bill

On Jul 1, 2014, at 1:11 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 On 7/1/2014, 3:03 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
 Livecode always returns true if you test an array for empty, although I
 think that behavior might have changed in a recent release.
 
 Right. In 6.6.2, this returns not empty:
 
   put XX into test[data][a1]
   if test[data] is empty then
  answer It is empty
   else
  answer Not empty
   end if
 
 
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-01 Thread Mark Wilcox
 My concern is that it have local, in-memory SQLite wherever it happens to
 be running, whether that be the browser or the server.
 
 
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 Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.

It's running in the browser, with the LiveCode engine compiled to
JavaScript. Compiling SQLite to JavaScript and running it locally in the
browser is not a great option - how will you reliably persist the data
and keep decent performance? Not that there aren't JavaScript based DB
solutions that use local file storage.

Sadly the web standards folks messed up here. Web SQL was effectively
killed because Mozilla and Microsoft refused to implement it. IndexedDB
looks like the option that everyone eventually agreed on but it's not
implemented everywhere yet. I suspect it will be fairly widespread by
the time the HTML5 deployment option is complete though...

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Re: So who is going to write the first monitor app?

2014-07-01 Thread Alex Tweedly


I've already written one.
Unfortunately, I based it on LC + HTML5/JS, so it won't be available 
until some new funding campaign is complete :-)


I'll try for a more traditional version based just on LC tomorrow, if 
there isn't one by then.


-- Alex.

On 01/07/2014 17:50, Heather Laine wrote:

I need a widget on my desktop that goes ching when pledges arrive!

Warm Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
http://www.livecode.com/









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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-01 Thread Terence Heaford

On 1 Jul 2014, at 16:16, Heather Laine heat...@livecode.com wrote:

 We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
 deployment, ASAP.


Nobody surveyed me?


—Terry

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push/pop and need for items on another card

2014-07-01 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I have a stack with various cards for parts for building my output.  I
need to use the formattedText of fields on it, so the particular card has
to be open.

I have been using a lock message, push card, open invisible,pop card
sequence.

Until today, there was no problem, but with one more window in the mix, it
appears that the pop is bring up *two* windows back instead of one.

Are there dragons here I'm missing?

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Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462
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Re: push/pop and need for items on another card

2014-07-01 Thread dunbarx
If you, instead of pushing and popping, go to named cards instead, does the 
problem go away?


Craig



-Original Message-
From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 8:12 pm
Subject: push/pop and need for items on another card


I have a stack with various cards for parts for building my output.  I
need to use the formattedText of fields on it, so the particular card has
to be open.

I have been using a lock message, push card, open invisible,pop card
sequence.

Until today, there was no problem, but with one more window in the mix, it
appears that the pop is bring up *two* windows back instead of one.

Are there dragons here I'm missing?

-- 
Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462
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