Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread Richmond

On 02/07/14 00:09, Terence Heaford wrote:

On 1 Jul 2014, at 16:16, Heather Laine heat...@livecode.com wrote:


We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
deployment, ASAP.


Nobody surveyed me?


—Terry




Nor me.

a massive 85% ???

our entire user base

That is not true: all the kids I have taught Livecode to over the last 4 
years

(half of who use it for doing things on an on-off basis) were not surveyed.

Those kids (who, unlike 52 year olds like me, are the future of Livecode)
and their opinions matter; as do all the other kids around the world
quietly getting to grips with Livecode.

Come to think of things; I wonder how many kids younger than say, 18,
who are tinkering with Livecode know what is meant by HTML5?



I think Livecode's plan to develop  HTML5 capabilities is marvellous
(I have already stated that), but their way of promoting it, like a lot
of their other advertising, leaves a lot to be desired.

I never buy washing powder because 9 out of 10 housewives prefer
washing with Livecode!

I wash with Livecode because I see what it does to my clothes.

Richmond.

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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread Heather Laine
If you didn't get a survey request from us, either you are not signed up to 
receive emails from us (you've opted out of both promotional and newsletter 
lists), you spam filtered or bounced our mail, or you joined the community 
after we sent the survey. We sent that survey to every email address that we 
had permission to mail.

Regards,

Heather

On 2 Jul 2014, at 07:53, Richmond wrote:

 On 02/07/14 00:09, Terence Heaford wrote:
 On 1 Jul 2014, at 16:16, Heather Laine heat...@livecode.com wrote:
 
 We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
 deployment, ASAP.
 
 Nobody surveyed me?
 
 
 —Terry
 
 
 
 Nor me.
 
 a massive 85% ???
 
 our entire user base
 
 That is not true: all the kids I have taught Livecode to over the last 4 years
 (half of who use it for doing things on an on-off basis) were not surveyed.
 
 Those kids (who, unlike 52 year olds like me, are the future of Livecode)
 and their opinions matter; as do all the other kids around the world
 quietly getting to grips with Livecode.
 
 Come to think of things; I wonder how many kids younger than say, 18,
 who are tinkering with Livecode know what is meant by HTML5?
 
 
 
 I think Livecode's plan to develop  HTML5 capabilities is marvellous
 (I have already stated that), but their way of promoting it, like a lot
 of their other advertising, leaves a lot to be desired.
 
 I never buy washing powder because 9 out of 10 housewives prefer
 washing with Livecode!
 
 I wash with Livecode because I see what it does to my clothes.
 
 Richmond.
 
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread Björnke von Gierke
It's not about who'm you email, it's about what you say.

I'm sure I'm part of those 85%, which is misleading. Why? Because the poll 
asked What technology would be nice to have? please select all that apply.. 
HTML5 was part of that list. Meanwhile Less bugs, and a better coding 
experience was not.



On 02 Jul 2014, at 09:55, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote:

 If you didn't get a survey request from us, either you are not signed up to 
 receive emails from us (you've opted out of both promotional and newsletter 
 lists), you spam filtered or bounced our mail, or you joined the community 
 after we sent the survey. We sent that survey to every email address that we 
 had permission to mail.
 
 Regards,
 
 Heather
 
 On 2 Jul 2014, at 07:53, Richmond wrote:
 
 On 02/07/14 00:09, Terence Heaford wrote:
 On 1 Jul 2014, at 16:16, Heather Laine heat...@livecode.com wrote:
 
 We surveyed our entire user base and a massive 85% of you want HTML5 
 deployment, ASAP.
 
 Nobody surveyed me?
 
 
 —Terry
 
 
 
 Nor me.
 
 a massive 85% ???
 
 our entire user base
 
 That is not true: all the kids I have taught Livecode to over the last 4 
 years
 (half of who use it for doing things on an on-off basis) were not surveyed.
 
 Those kids (who, unlike 52 year olds like me, are the future of Livecode)
 and their opinions matter; as do all the other kids around the world
 quietly getting to grips with Livecode.
 
 Come to think of things; I wonder how many kids younger than say, 18,
 who are tinkering with Livecode know what is meant by HTML5?
 
 
 
 I think Livecode's plan to develop  HTML5 capabilities is marvellous
 (I have already stated that), but their way of promoting it, like a lot
 of their other advertising, leaves a lot to be desired.
 
 I never buy washing powder because 9 out of 10 housewives prefer
 washing with Livecode!
 
 I wash with Livecode because I see what it does to my clothes.
 
 Richmond.


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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread jbv
And what does Livecode do to your clothes ?

(sorry, I couldn't resist)...
jbv


 I wash with Livecode because I see what it does to my clothes.

 Richmond.




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Re: WebRTC support and Chromium Embedded Framework in LiveCode

2014-07-02 Thread David Bovill
On 1 July 2014 21:03, Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk wrote:

 Alternatively it's simple enough that you could contract
 someone to do it after all the refactoring is sorted for significantly
 less than the cost of a Premium license.


Sounds a way to go. Even better would be to have a well structured and
promoted bounty platform for open source code. Richard


 Now iOS 8
 has added a new WKWebView with a much nicer way of doing it (and much
 better JavaScript performance!)


Just did a little reading about WKWebView (thanks for the tip)  - this is a
good review with some speed tests -
http://developer.telerik.com/featured/why-ios-8s-wkwebview-is-a-big-deal-for-hybrid-development/


I'm looking to have good interoperability between JavaScript/HTML5,
LiveCode, and C++. It looks like there are powerful things on the horizon
with regard to LiveCode / C++
http://livecode.com/blog/2014/05/29/eating-our-own-haggis/ but it's not
so clear with regard to HTML5/Javascript which has always seemed to be
treated as more of an competitor than a friend to embrace. Though this may
be simply that not many people use this aspect of Livecode?
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread Terence Heaford
Just had a look at my account page and all it says is:


 Keep me informed of LiveCode special offers  updates 
 Subscribe to our newsletter

A survey is neither of the above?

Perhaps you should have posted on the list that people wanting to take the 
survey can find the link on their account page.


Terry


On 2 Jul 2014, at 08:55, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote:

 If you didn't get a survey request from us, either you are not signed up to 
 receive emails from us (you've opted out of both promotional and newsletter 
 lists), you spam filtered or bounced our mail, or you joined the community 
 after we sent the survey. We sent that survey to every email address that we 
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Re: popUp a button with itself on modified mouseDown?

2014-07-02 Thread Peter Brigham
I'm late to this discussion but here's what I do. It's a modular solution,
and I use it a lot. It's great for contextual menus for right-clicking in a
field (customize the button contents depending on context) and I've often
used it for just what you are doing, to offer a popup list on
right-clicking a standard button. Once it's set up you will likely find
yourself using it for lots of things, since calling it is as simple as:
   put popChoose(Vera,Chuck,Dave,-,Lovely Rita,Nowhere Man)
into uChoice

function popChoose
   -- create a popup button in your mainstack or a library stack
   --button style = menu, menumode = popup, name = contextualMenu
   --button script:
   --  on menupick what
   -- set the uSelection of me to what
   --  end menupick
   -- make the button invisible when you're done, if needed

   -- then paste this handler into a suitable stack script, so it's
available anywhere
   --could be the same stack the button is in, but that's not necessary
   -- enter the short name of the stack containing the button
   --into the constant declaration below.

   -- popChoose() can accept a cr-delimited list of choices
   --or a comma-delimited list
   -- eg: put Vera  cr  Chuck  cr  Dave into choiceList
   -- put popChoose(choiceList) into userChoice
   -- or: put popChoose(choice1,choice2,choice3) into userChoice
   -- or: put popChoose(One,Two,Three) into userChoice

   constant popChooseStackName = yourLibraryStack

   put the params into tList
   put offset((,tList) into q
   delete char 1 to q of tList
   delete char -1 of tList
   replace comma  space  quote with comma  quote in tList
   replace quote  comma  quote with cr in tList
   if char 1 of tList = quote then delete char 1 of tList
   if char -1 of tList = quote then delete char -1 of tList
   put empty into u
   set the uSelection of btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
to empty
   put tList into btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
   popup btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
   put the uSelection of btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
into u
   set the uSelection of btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
to empty
   put empty into btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
   -- belt and suspenders, don't leave contents hanging around
   select empty
   if u = empty then
  exit to top
  -- ie, mouseRelease, no action
   end if
   return u
end popChoose

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com wrote:

 create a popup button
 move it to -100,-100

 create your standard visible button with the following script:

 on mousedown thebutton
   popup button x
else
   beep
end if
 end mousedown

 Does this do what you want?

 -= Mike



 On Jun 30, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Take a look at the button style, menumode and general appearance
  properties.  I would think that you could dynamicly change the style and
  menu mode and general appearance.   Just a thought….
 
 
  Within limits, it does that so far.
 
  The code I have successfully changes the button type; my problem is
 getting
  the now-popup to pop.
 
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Re: popUp a button with itself on modified mouseDown?

2014-07-02 Thread Michael Doub
Thanks Peter.  Very handy.

-= Mike

On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Peter Brigham pmb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm late to this discussion but here's what I do. It's a modular solution,
 and I use it a lot. It's great for contextual menus for right-clicking in a
 field (customize the button contents depending on context) and I've often
 used it for just what you are doing, to offer a popup list on
 right-clicking a standard button. Once it's set up you will likely find
 yourself using it for lots of things, since calling it is as simple as:
   put popChoose(Vera,Chuck,Dave,-,Lovely Rita,Nowhere Man)
 into uChoice
 
 function popChoose
   -- create a popup button in your mainstack or a library stack
   --button style = menu, menumode = popup, name = contextualMenu
   --button script:
   --  on menupick what
   -- set the uSelection of me to what
   --  end menupick
   -- make the button invisible when you're done, if needed
 
   -- then paste this handler into a suitable stack script, so it's
 available anywhere
   --could be the same stack the button is in, but that's not necessary
   -- enter the short name of the stack containing the button
   --into the constant declaration below.
 
   -- popChoose() can accept a cr-delimited list of choices
   --or a comma-delimited list
   -- eg: put Vera  cr  Chuck  cr  Dave into choiceList
   -- put popChoose(choiceList) into userChoice
   -- or: put popChoose(choice1,choice2,choice3) into userChoice
   -- or: put popChoose(One,Two,Three) into userChoice
 
   constant popChooseStackName = yourLibraryStack
 
   put the params into tList
   put offset((,tList) into q
   delete char 1 to q of tList
   delete char -1 of tList
   replace comma  space  quote with comma  quote in tList
   replace quote  comma  quote with cr in tList
   if char 1 of tList = quote then delete char 1 of tList
   if char -1 of tList = quote then delete char -1 of tList
   put empty into u
   set the uSelection of btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
 to empty
   put tList into btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
   popup btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
   put the uSelection of btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
 into u
   set the uSelection of btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
 to empty
   put empty into btn contextualMenu of stack popChooseStackName
   -- belt and suspenders, don't leave contents hanging around
   select empty
   if u = empty then
  exit to top
  -- ie, mouseRelease, no action
   end if
   return u
 end popChoose
 
 -- Peter
 
 Peter M. Brigham
 pmb...@gmail.com
 http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 create a popup button
 move it to -100,-100
 
 create your standard visible button with the following script:
 
 on mousedown thebutton
  popup button x
   else
  beep
   end if
 end mousedown
 
 Does this do what you want?
 
 -= Mike
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Take a look at the button style, menumode and general appearance
 properties.  I would think that you could dynamicly change the style and
 menu mode and general appearance.   Just a thought….
 
 
 Within limits, it does that so far.
 
 The code I have successfully changes the button type; my problem is
 getting
 the now-popup to pop.
 
 --
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 (702) 508-8462
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Re: push/pop and need for items on another card

2014-07-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Can't you refer to the card remotely without going there? 

On July 1, 2014 7:11:24 PM CDT, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a stack with various cards for parts for building my output. 
I
need to use the formattedText of fields on it, so the particular card
has
to be open.


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Re: push/pop and need for items on another card

2014-07-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:21 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
wrote:

 Can't you refer to the card remotely without going there?


I can refer remotely, but if the particular card, not just the stack, isn't
actually open, then the formattedHeight of a field doesn't actually get
calculated.


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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk wrote:

 It's running in the browser, with the LiveCode engine compiled to
 JavaScript. Compiling SQLite to JavaScript and running it locally in the
 browser is not a great option - how will you reliably persist the data
 and keep decent performance? Not that there aren't JavaScript based DB
 solutions that use local file storage.


Actually, all I need is the in-memory db, and for a fairly small database
at that.  Performancewise, however, I need that data locally.  Changing one
item can result in the need to reference dozens of others to recalculate,
its dependent values.





 Sadly the web standards folks messed up here. Web SQL was effectively
 killed because Mozilla and Microsoft refused to implement it. IndexedDB
 looks like the option that everyone eventually agreed on but it's not
 implemented everywhere yet. I suspect it will be fairly widespread by
 the time the HTML5 deployment option is complete though...


I don't need any *particular* database, but I do need to be able to use
revDataFromQuery().  I initially implented value storage with my getVal()
and setVal() to use an array, but there are too many different ways I
access particular data types; to use anything other than a (light) database
means custom loops through everything for each type of WHERE that I use.
If there were an array type that could access the same data from different
independent indices, that *could* work, but I think we'd call that array a
database :)

As things get set and calculated and changed, a db row gives me a nice way
to access by any of these.  Without it, I'd have to manually set everything
in additional arrays just to keep track of things, which is an army of bugs
waiting to be sprayed . . .

Also, my db need is *very* simple.  I use a few UNION just to turn things
into a single access, and some compound WHERE, but no JOIN, related tables,
and whatnot.
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread jacques CLAVEL
I have posted a message about the campaign bring HTML5 to LiveCode on the
forum of the French site 01net (forum: Logiciels/developpement)
http://www.01net.com/

Jacques


2014-07-02 18:59 GMT+02:00 Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk
 wrote:

  It's running in the browser, with the LiveCode engine compiled to
  JavaScript. Compiling SQLite to JavaScript and running it locally in the
  browser is not a great option - how will you reliably persist the data
  and keep decent performance? Not that there aren't JavaScript based DB
  solutions that use local file storage.
 

 Actually, all I need is the in-memory db, and for a fairly small database
 at that.  Performancewise, however, I need that data locally.  Changing one
 item can result in the need to reference dozens of others to recalculate,
 its dependent values.




 
  Sadly the web standards folks messed up here. Web SQL was effectively
  killed because Mozilla and Microsoft refused to implement it. IndexedDB
  looks like the option that everyone eventually agreed on but it's not
  implemented everywhere yet. I suspect it will be fairly widespread by
  the time the HTML5 deployment option is complete though...
 

 I don't need any *particular* database, but I do need to be able to use
 revDataFromQuery().  I initially implented value storage with my getVal()
 and setVal() to use an array, but there are too many different ways I
 access particular data types; to use anything other than a (light) database
 means custom loops through everything for each type of WHERE that I use.
 If there were an array type that could access the same data from different
 independent indices, that *could* work, but I think we'd call that array a
 database :)

 As things get set and calculated and changed, a db row gives me a nice way
 to access by any of these.  Without it, I'd have to manually set everything
 in additional arrays just to keep track of things, which is an army of bugs
 waiting to be sprayed . . .

 Also, my db need is *very* simple.  I use a few UNION just to turn things
 into a single access, and some compound WHERE, but no JOIN, related tables,
 and whatnot.
 --
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 (702) 508-8462
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[ANN] HTML 5 Campaign Monitor

2014-07-02 Thread Scott Rossi
I saw a request from Heather about wanting a notifier for the HTML 5
campaign so I put together a little stack for this.  Execute the following
in your message box:

go url http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7192863/HTML5_Monitor.livecode;


The stack scrapes data from the campaign page and is configured to
automatically check status every 5 minutes, with a chime/refresh animation
if a change is detected.  There's a manual refresh at the bottom of the
window.  Note that the campaign page is slow to load here in California
(several seconds) so a busy indicator is displayed while the stack is
fetching data.

Make your pledge and listen for the chime  :-)

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




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OT: Collaborative Diagramming Software

2014-07-02 Thread Brahmanathswami
Anyone using Diagramming software.  Look for a free option that runs 
online and is collaborative.


Draw.io Pro for Google Apps seems like the best option, but it is never 
mentioned anywhere in any of the Diagramming software comparisons.



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Re: OT: Collaborative Diagramming Software

2014-07-02 Thread Brahmanathswami


Anyone using Diagramming software.  Look for a free option that runs 
online and is collaborative.


Draw.io Pro for Google Apps seems like the best option, but it is 
never mentioned anywhere in any of the Diagramming software comparisons.





I have used this, and it seems to do the job:

https://www.lucidchart.com/




Lucid Chart: I've been watching that one for years... Very limited 
options in the free version...only 5 diagrams


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Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App Store?

2014-07-02 Thread Brahmanathswami
Dumb, old question: Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's 
App Store?


I'm reviewing again the differences between the  Open Source community 
version and the Commercial license, which I thought I understood well... 
(See the faq http://livecode.com/support/ask-a-question/)


But this is puzzling: Under

Open source:

1) Acme Corp wants to distribute their app and source code 
directly from their website, for use on any platform


Commercial option:

2) Acme Corp wants to submit their free or paid iOS or Mac 
OS app, to the official Apple iTunes or Mac App Store


Regarding # 1 above:

Can iOS users really download an app from any web site and install it on 
their iPhone or iPad without going through the App Store?


I did not think this was possible unless you had the GUID for each 
device you want to deploy to and that was limited to 100 devices. But 
this verbiage -- distribute their app and source code directly from 
their website, for use on any platform -- implies I could put an iOS 
app on our site and someone could just download -- drag into iTunes -- 
sync  and voila!... the app is running on their iPhone/iPad. or navigate 
in their iPhone to a download link and click to install the app


Is that even possible? What am I missing here?

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RE: Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App Store?

2014-07-02 Thread Ralph DiMola
Apple has removed the option to delete a device except at license renewal
time. This limits non iStore distribution to 100 devices per year per
license.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Of Brahmanathswami
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:14 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App Store?

Dumb, old question: Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App
Store?

I'm reviewing again the differences between the  Open Source community 
version and the Commercial license, which I thought I understood well... 
(See the faq http://livecode.com/support/ask-a-question/)

But this is puzzling: Under

Open source:

 1) Acme Corp wants to distribute their app and source code
directly from their website, for use on any platform

Commercial option:

 2) Acme Corp wants to submit their free or paid iOS or Mac OS
app, to the official Apple iTunes or Mac App Store

Regarding # 1 above:

Can iOS users really download an app from any web site and install it on
their iPhone or iPad without going through the App Store?

I did not think this was possible unless you had the GUID for each device
you want to deploy to and that was limited to 100 devices. But this verbiage
-- distribute their app and source code directly from their website, for
use on any platform -- implies I could put an iOS app on our site and
someone could just download -- drag into iTunes -- sync  and voila!... the
app is running on their iPhone/iPad. or navigate in their iPhone to a
download link and click to install the app

Is that even possible? What am I missing here?

Swasti Astu, Be Well!
Brahmanathaswami

Kauai's Hindu Monastery
www.HimalayanAcademy.com


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Re: [ANN] HTML 5 Campaign Monitor

2014-07-02 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Scott

Nice little app...

Thank you

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 I saw a request from Heather about wanting a notifier for the HTML 5
 campaign so I put together a little stack for this.  Execute the following
 in your message box:

 go url http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7192863/HTML5_Monitor.livecode;


 The stack scrapes data from the campaign page and is configured to
 automatically check status every 5 minutes, with a chime/refresh animation
 if a change is detected.  There's a manual refresh at the bottom of the
 window.  Note that the campaign page is slow to load here in California
 (several seconds) so a busy indicator is displayed while the stack is
 fetching data.

 Make your pledge and listen for the chime  :-)

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




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Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App Store?

2014-07-02 Thread Peter W A Wood
Brahmanathswami

It seems that what you are missing is that your LiveCode script and the 
LiveCode engine will be compiled to a Web App, a combination of HTML, CSS and 
JavaScript. It will not be installed on the iOS device but will run in the 
browser.

I suspect that the resultant HTML, CSS and JavaScript will not just be big, it 
will be massive. However, provided you use future dating on the HTML, CSS and 
JavaScript, users should only need to download the WebApp once. (This will take 
a little care or else users will find it very difficult to receive updates to 
the WebApp).

Regards

Peter



On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:14, Brahmanathswami bra...@hindu.org wrote:

 Dumb, old question: Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App 
 Store?
 
 I'm reviewing again the differences between the  Open Source community 
 version and the Commercial license, which I thought I understood well... (See 
 the faq http://livecode.com/support/ask-a-question/)
 
 But this is puzzling: Under
 
 Open source:
 
   1) Acme Corp wants to distribute their app and source code directly 
 from their website, for use on any platform
 
 Commercial option:
 
   2) Acme Corp wants to submit their free or paid iOS or Mac OS app, 
 to the official Apple iTunes or Mac App Store
 
 Regarding # 1 above:
 
 Can iOS users really download an app from any web site and install it on 
 their iPhone or iPad without going through the App Store?
 
 I did not think this was possible unless you had the GUID for each device you 
 want to deploy to and that was limited to 100 devices. But this verbiage -- 
 distribute their app and source code directly from their website, for use on 
 any platform -- implies I could put an iOS app on our site and someone could 
 just download -- drag into iTunes -- sync  and voila!... the app is running 
 on their iPhone/iPad. or navigate in their iPhone to a download link and 
 click to install the app
 
 Is that even possible? What am I missing here?
 
 Swasti Astu, Be Well!
 Brahmanathaswami
 
 Kauai's Hindu Monastery
 www.HimalayanAcademy.com
 
 
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Re: OT: Collaborative Diagramming Software

2014-07-02 Thread Peter Haworth
The Chrome Web Store has another one named Glifffy Diagrams.  Never used it
so can't comment on if it's any good or not.

Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Brahmanathswami bra...@hindu.org wrote:


  Anyone using Diagramming software.  Look for a free option that runs
 online and is collaborative.

 Draw.io Pro for Google Apps seems like the best option, but it is never
 mentioned anywhere in any of the Diagramming software comparisons.



 I have used this, and it seems to do the job:

 https://www.lucidchart.com/



 Lucid Chart: I've been watching that one for years... Very limited options
 in the free version...only 5 diagrams

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Re: [ANN] HTML 5 Campaign Monitor

2014-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
Your eye for detail is amazing. Heather will be pleased 



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