How Film Sets and Coding Are Equally Important

2015-10-06 Thread Jana Doughty
Hi All, We had a Hollywood moment at LiveCode this week. The Secret Agent - a new TV series coming to you in 2016 - was filming on our street! It made us think about how film and coding are both expressions of making something out of nothing. We want to empower everyone to create something out

Re: DP6 more strict?

2015-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/06/2015 12:07 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: My personal feeling (having observed people's interaction with the language for a long time) is that variant forms of syntax which do the same thing actually make things harder to learn and understand - it makes the dictionary larger and increases

Re: Setting a plug-in to open with the IDE

2015-10-06 Thread Richmond
On 06/10/15 20:59, Peter Haworth wrote: You don't need to do that every time you run LC, just once. Next time you run LC after doing that, the plugin will open automatically. Some plugins are preconfigured that way when you install them, others need to be tweaked the way I described to have

Re: DP6 more strict?

2015-10-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
He also said, "But in the morning Madam, I will be sober." Bob S On Oct 6, 2015, at 08:52 , Mark Wieder > wrote: My personal feeling (having observed people's interaction with the language for a long time) is that variant forms of syntax

Re: How Film Sets and Coding Are Equally Important

2015-10-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
It's amoral to my mind. Bob S On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:49 , Richmond > wrote: On 06/10/15 21:19, Bob Sneidar wrote: Actually both are examples of making illusions out of things whose real nature are nothing like what they appear to

Re: Setting a plug-in to open with the IDE

2015-10-06 Thread Peter Haworth
Development Menu | Plugins | Plugin Settings. Select the plugin from the option menu then click "Livecode starts up". On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM Richmond wrote: > How does one set a plug-in so that it executes when a user > opens LiveCode, rather than the user

Re: How Film Sets and Coding Are Equally Important

2015-10-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
Actually both are examples of making illusions out of things whose real nature are nothing like what they appear to be. Bob S On Oct 6, 2015, at 08:28 , Jana Doughty > wrote: It made us think about how film and coding are both

Re: How Film Sets and Coding Are Equally Important

2015-10-06 Thread Richmond
On 06/10/15 21:57, Bob Sneidar wrote: It's amoral to my mind. Well, amoral is a lot better than immoral. Although I would argue that it is a good thing to let computer users know that what they see on the monitor is a socking great illusion. R. Bob S On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:49 , Richmond

Re: Setting a plug-in to open with the IDE

2015-10-06 Thread Richmond
On 06/10/15 20:45, Peter Haworth wrote: Development Menu | Plugins | Plugin Settings. Select the plugin from the option menu then click "Livecode starts up". Thanks, but that isn't really what I meant. Sarah Reichelt had a plugin for messing around with the Preference Palette in RR/LC 2

Re: How Film Sets and Coding Are Equally Important

2015-10-06 Thread Richmond
On 06/10/15 21:19, Bob Sneidar wrote: Actually both are examples of making illusions out of things whose real nature are nothing like what they appear to be. Now there's a chestnut: is that supposed to be a good thing or a bad one? Bob S Richmond. On Oct 6, 2015, at 08:28 , Jana

Re: Basic grouches about LiveCode 8

2015-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-06 04:11, Monte Goulding wrote: On 6 Oct 2015, at 1:05 pm, Roger Eller wrote: Is that why LC8 takes longer to open? Could be, I think most of it is because of the docs. This is the most likely explanation - the docs are merged together on startup

Re: DP6 more strict?

2015-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-05 09:58, jameshale wrote: Except the alternate syntax can no longer be handled. The alternate syntaxes in many cases don't necessarily do what you think. In your case: repeat with x = 1 to 5 repeat for x = 1 to 5 Is certainly quit clear - one can immediately see what they

Re: Basic grouches about LiveCode 8

2015-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-06 04:54, Richard Gaskin wrote: Monte Goulding wrote: On 6 Oct 2015, at 1:15 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: some really long script somewhere to create every control and set every property? ^ this Where can I read that? I wonder what the break-even ROI calculation for that effort

Re: Setting a plug-in to open with the IDE

2015-10-06 Thread Peter Haworth
You don't need to do that every time you run LC, just once. Next time you run LC after doing that, the plugin will open automatically. Some plugins are preconfigured that way when you install them, others need to be tweaked the way I described to have them open automatically On Tue, Oct 6, 2015

Application Browser

2015-10-06 Thread Richmond
The Application Browser, which at least 2 of the Use-List members love, has been made inaccessible from the menubar of LiveCode 8. I have knocked together 2 plugin stacks that will, temporarily patch your IDE to rectify this shortcoming: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=25503

Why is the visible size of option/push buttons different?

2015-10-06 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, LC 6.7/7.0 on Windows. When putting a standard option button and a push button from the palette side by side onto a card the visible size of the push button always is 2 px smaller, when having both button borders set to 3D. In other words you have to make the push button 2px larger as the

LC8

2015-10-06 Thread Peter Haworth
Does anyone know if the location and/or format of the dictionary file changed somewhere in LC8? How about plugin setting such when to load? Both these questions relate to issues that have been reported with lcStackbrowser and LC8. Pete ___

Re: LC8

2015-10-06 Thread Ali Lloyd
Yes the dictionary has changed dramatically - the data is now in JSON format. The loading of plugins was an issue but should be fixed in the latest builds. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:55 PM Peter Haworth wrote: > Does anyone know if the location and/or format of the dictionary

Re: LC8

2015-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/06/2015 04:17 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote: The loading of plugins was an issue but should be fixed in the latest builds. And indeed that is the case. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: LC8

2015-10-06 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks. I believe the plugin problem was discovered in LC8 dp5 so sounds like will be OK in dp6. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 4:26 PM Mark Wieder wrote: > On 10/06/2015 04:17 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > > The loading of plugins was an issue but should be fixed in the latest > >

Re: How Film Sets and Coding Are Equally Important

2015-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/06/2015 12:03 PM, Richmond wrote: On 06/10/15 21:57, Bob Sneidar wrote: It's amoral to my mind. Well, amoral is a lot better than immoral. Not sure about that. Immoral means a choice has been made. Amoral implies an uneasy uncertainty. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Basic grouches about LiveCode 8

2015-10-06 Thread Richmond
On 05/10/15 22:36, Richmond wrote: 1. I seem unable to GROUP a single object. This is a real pain if one wants to do an IMPORT SNAPSHOT with a drop shadow. Importing the button as a button, rather than within its own group means one loses a DROP SHADOW or a GLOW. 2. The Application

Setting a plug-in to open with the IDE

2015-10-06 Thread Richmond
How does one set a plug-in so that it executes when a user opens LiveCode, rather than the user having to choose it from the Development/Plugins menu? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: DP6 more strict?

2015-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-06 17:52, Mark Wieder wrote: OK - playing Devil's Advocate here... I think one of the strengths of the xtalk language is that there may be many different paths to the solution of any given problem. I've learned a lot, and continue to do so, by seeing how other people approach issues