Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Scott, > Am 15.06.2016 um 02:00 schrieb Scott Rossi : > On 6/14/16, 1:20 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k" > > wrote: > >> Hi Dar, >>> Am 14.06.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Dar Scott

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Scott Rossi
On 6/14/16, 1:20 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k" wrote: >Hi Dra, > >> Am 14.06.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Dar Scott : >> >> Now that is goofy. Why would that work and Scott's not? > >well, that's a

neither error nor change on internal mySQL query

2016-06-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
It seems to me that I should either get an entry or an error out of this: Where dcmd is *BEGIN ;* *CREATE TABLE dhdbt_testy_zeke___001 (unqKy SERIAL PRIMARY KEY, ktyp CHAR(1), kywd VARCHAR(50) UNIQUE, usr VARCHAR(20), tstmp TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE, scr TEXT, dltd BOOLEAN, cmd TEXT );*

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner
I kept expecting it to turn into a full blown tale of daring "do", a "call" to arms, and code troops sending pending. Thanks for the time you 'put into it', I like 'the result' On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > Actually not! I have just gotten over some

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Dar Scott
Actually not! I have just gotten over some under-the-weather and I need to get back to work. Work, Dar, work! But, I am feeling a lot better. I just wanted to say that send is much like do but I forgot what the differences were. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Phil Davis

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Phil Davis
Dar clearly has too much time on his hands. ;-) Phil Davis On 6/14/16 3:34 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: I've read this 3 times now and I'm still fascinated. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Be careful! There are some things you can do with 'do' but can't send

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner
I've read this 3 times now and I'm still fascinated. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > Be careful! There are some things you can do with 'do' but can't send > with 'send'. Also, as I recall, not all you can 'call' can lend itself to > 'send'. I've seen things

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Dar Scott
Be careful! There are some things you can do with 'do' but can't send with 'send'. Also, as I recall, not all you can 'call' can lend itself to 'send'. I've seen things that 'do' did but sent d'n't. Also, a sending pending is not the same as a do doing since a pending sending is not done as

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner
Ah well, I was hoping. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Klaus major-k wrote: > Hi Mike, > > > Am 15.06.2016 um 00:00 schrieb Mike Bonner : > > > > Silly question but.. Is the image id that you're setting your windowshape > > to an imported image or a

Re: Need Help With String Pattern Matching

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner
If you don't want to write a regex loop, you can also use regex with filter. I haven't done speed comparisons though. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Quentin Long wrote: > sez Gregory Lypny: > > Thank you for the tips on string pattern matching. I?m > > used to Mathematica?s

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Mike, > Am 15.06.2016 um 00:00 schrieb Mike Bonner : > > Silly question but.. Is the image id that you're setting your windowshape > to an imported image or a referenced image? While it doesn't explain the > 2nd window having a windowshape and the first not (unless both

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner
Silly question but.. Is the image id that you're setting your windowshape to an imported image or a referenced image? While it doesn't explain the 2nd window having a windowshape and the first not (unless both do have windowshapes set...) ,it might explain why the windowshape for the first is

Re: Need Help With String Pattern Matching

2016-06-14 Thread Quentin Long
sez Gregory Lypny: > Thank you for the tips on string pattern matching. I?m > used to Mathematica?s string pattern syntax, which is > probably built on regex, but I can see the similarities in > your nice examples, particularly the using of > alternatives [Joe|Anges]. While Mathematica?s string >

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
The whole thing is goofy. Why is openStack behaving like preOpenStack just because it's a non-standard window style? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Dar Scott
Of course. It is a bug. Bugs are supposed to act strange. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Klaus major-k wrote: > > Hi Dra, > >> Am 14.06.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Dar Scott : >> >> Now that is goofy. Why would that work and Scott's not? > > well, that's a

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Dra, > Am 14.06.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Dar Scott : > > Now that is goofy. Why would that work and Scott's not? well, that's a rhetorical question, right? ;-) I added an appropriate comment to the bug report! > Did you remember the "in 5 seconds" for his? >From the card

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Dar Scott
Now that is goofy. Why would that work and Scott's not? Did you remember the "in 5 seconds" for his? > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Klaus major-k wrote: > > Hi Dar, > >> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott : >> >> Without knowing the context and just

RE: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Erik Beugelaar
This is what we call "the slang language of LiveCode" feature ;-) Good to know this! Sent from solidit -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Klaus major-k Sent: dinsdag 14 juni 2016 22:08 To: How to use LiveCode

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Dar, > Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott : > > Without knowing the context and just adding random things: > > send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds that was the next thing to try, and YES, that actually works! :-) >> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Scott, > Am 14.06.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Scott Rossi : > > Hi Klaus: > > I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with > messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"? > > wait 5 secs with messages > > Or: > > send

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Dar Scott
Without knowing the context and just adding random things: send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > > Hi Klaus: > > I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with > messages" to your code or

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Klaus: I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"? wait 5 secs with messages Or: send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds command goNextCard go next cd end goNextCard Regards, Scott Rossi

Re: LC8 - Stumbling into JSON

2016-06-14 Thread Graham Samuel
More thanks is due, to Devin and to Richard. Some of the fog of my ignorance is dispersing, I hope and believe. Graham > On 14 Jun 2016, at 21:09, Devin Asay wrote: > > >> On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Richard Gaskin >> wrote: > >>> As you’ll

RE: Indy licence

2016-06-14 Thread Ralph DiMola
> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Richmond wrote: > > Someone has just paid for a 2 year licence for Livecode Commercial on my behalf. > > This is amazingly generous, and I will always be indebted to them. Nice to hear about and also feel the love. Thanks for sharing

Re: Indy licence

2016-06-14 Thread Devin Asay
> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Richmond wrote: > > Someone has just paid for a 2 year licence for Livecode Commercial on my > behalf. > > This is amazingly generous, and I will always be indebted to them. +1 How incredibly generous. And we know it’ll be put to

Re: LC8 - Stumbling into JSON

2016-06-14 Thread Devin Asay
> On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > As you’ll see it’s a whole new world of functionality, and so simple > > to access through LiveCode, using GET and POST requests. > > ...and with LC Server also easy to provide. That’s the rest of the

Indy licence

2016-06-14 Thread Richmond
Someone has just paid for a 2 year licence for Livecode Commercial on my behalf. This is amazingly generous, and I will always be indebted to them. --- Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: LC8 - Stumbling into JSON

2016-06-14 Thread Devin Asay
> On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > > As you’ll see it’s a whole new world of functionality, and so simple > > to access through LiveCode, using GET and PUT requests. That should be GET and POST, of course. Devin Asay Office of Digital

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
oooh funfunfunfunfunfunfun On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I happen to be doing some Alexa work today. They have it hooked up to > ifttt.com now, which broadens what it’s able to do. > > > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Richard Gaskin

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Colin Holgate
I happen to be doing some Alexa work today. They have it hooked up to ifttt.com now, which broadens what it’s able to do. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > And when we do, as much as I may like Mycrosft I'd have to support Colin's >

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > "All" means all. "All" is a very big number. The largest possible. As such it's a uniquely expensive option. If we had a universal API for bots the way we do for email, this would be a no-brainer. And we will, but not for some time. We're still in the early days, in

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > Here's all I can say about Apple in the last few years. Tim Cook is > no Steve Jobs. Agreed, but at the risk of veering off into cheeseland here I'll say that's not entirely a bad thing. Steve was a gifted product designer, and indeed his loss is a loss for not just

Re: LC8 - Stumbling into JSON

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Graham Samuel wrote: > My query about ‘result’ and ‘value’ wasn’t about arrays as such, > it was about the use of those particular labels in that context > - the answer is (I suppose) that one has to know the spec of the > JSON that is being used in order to know what the JSON output > looks

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
"All" means all. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > > I emailed Kevin and proposed another funding round, for universal > > voice support across all platforms for all digital assistants. We > > paid Monte to give us

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > > I emailed Kevin and proposed another funding round, for universal > voice support across all platforms for all digital assistants. We > paid Monte to give us hooks into Dragon (for both voice in and out), > because Siri wasn't available. With all due respect to you and the

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
Here's all I can say about Apple in the last few years. Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > I am also extremely disappointed that we are not seeing any sort of > > real convergence between

SelectedObjectChanged in LC8... Bug?

2016-06-14 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
When the "Browse" tool is selected in the UI, any selected objects are deselected and a SelectedObjectChanged message used to be sent. This is no longer the case in LC8. I have also tried trapping for a NewTool message, but this is similarly ignored. Any insights, or is this a bug? Hugh Senior

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > I am also extremely disappointed that we are not seeing any sort of > real convergence between macOS and ios. Here, we have several users > that are on surface pro's, because they can get the best of both > worlds in the windows universe on one device. No worries, it'll

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner
I'll keep my fingers crossed that its located and fixed. If I find a reliable recipe I'll report it, but so far no luck. (the same standalone does sometimes start correctly. Annoying!) On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > On 6/14/2016 11:47 AM, Mike

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 6/14/2016 11:47 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Paul, I've seen this too. Launch a standalone and it doesn't show. I've > only seen this when using the browser widget as part of the build. (haven't > really used other widgets, so I can't speak for those) If I then go into > task manager and tell it

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner
Paul, I've seen this too. Launch a standalone and it doesn't show. I've only seen this when using the browser widget as part of the build. (haven't really used other widgets, so I can't speak for those) If I then go into task manager and tell it to create a dump file for my application, poof..

Re: LC8 - Stumbling into JSON

2016-06-14 Thread Devin Asay
> On Jun 14, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: > > Thanks Mike, and thanks to everyone else who explained. My query about > ‘result’ and ‘value’ wasn’t about arrays as such, it was about the use of > those particular labels in that context - the answer is (I suppose)

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder
On 06/14/2016 07:24 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Something else from yesterday, macOS 10.12 has a new feature where applications that didn’t have a tabs feature before suddenly do now. The way I understand this is that applications *that support multiple windows* now have tabs. LC doesn't have

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Colin Holgate
Although I’m a fan of Apple, and a fan of Halo, Alexa is my favorite one of these. Amazon have done a good job with it. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > I emailed Kevin and proposed another funding round, for universal voice > support across

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 6/14/2016 9:56 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: > Hi all, > > i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set. > > I has a script like this: > on opencard > wait 5 secs > go next cd > end opencard > > In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows > I see

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Colin Holgate
Did you see the shared clipboard feature? And Siri on Mac is pretty neat. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > I am also extremely disappointed that we are not seeing any sort of real > convergence between macOS and ios. Here, we have several users

Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Paul, > Am 14.06.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Paul Dupuis : > > On 6/14/2016 9:56 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set. >> >> I has a script like this: >> on opencard >> wait 5 secs >> go next cd >>

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
I am also extremely disappointed that we are not seeing any sort of real convergence between macOS and ios. Here, we have several users that are on surface pro's, because they can get the best of both worlds in the windows universe on one device. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Mike Kerner

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
I emailed Kevin and proposed another funding round, for universal voice support across all platforms for all digital assistants. We paid Monte to give us hooks into Dragon (for both voice in and out), because Siri wasn't available. For those keeping score at home, I think there are now 5: Siri,

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Also, they're opening up the Siri and messaging apis to developers. > This is what I've been waiting for--I want to be able to tell Siri to record billing information while out and about. -- Dr. Richard E.

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Colin Holgate
Something else from yesterday, macOS 10.12 has a new feature where applications that didn’t have a tabs feature before suddenly do now. I’ve tried that with SketchUp, and it works well. The system inserts a Show Tab Bar into the top of the View menu. In some cases that option is there but

Re: csvToText Repository

2016-06-14 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 14/06/2016 14:33, Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi Alex, I don't think an enhancement to the split command would be adequate for correct parsing of a CSV file. I wasn't suggesting that. Having struggled to create the current version of csvToText, I am all too aware of the vagaries of csv

Re: csvToText Repository

2016-06-14 Thread Peter M. Brigham
Be my guest. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Peter B, > If you don't mind, I would like to add your goodies to the codebase we're > building for csv handling. I'll want to tweak it so that we use the other > code we already have

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
the playgrounds looks like fun... On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I’m running it from my internal drive, and open stack works fine. I do use > the utility Default Folder, and that isn’t working it seems. > > > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:12 AM, [-hh]

strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

2016-06-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi all, i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set. I has a script like this: on opencard wait 5 secs go next cd end opencard In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows I see NOTHING for 5 secs and then second card of this stack appear and

Re: csvToText Repository

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
Peter B, If you don't mind, I would like to add your goodies to the codebase we're building for csv handling. I'll want to tweak it so that we use the other code we already have inside, of course. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > Although

Re: csvToText Repository

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
Peter, You forgot "far" as in "far beyond". Coping with non-standards and moving standards is something that is better left at a higher level, IMHO. I want to add more test and corner cases for things that are legitimate csv that we should make sure that we handle, properly, so when anyone thinks

Re: LC8 - Stumbling into JSON

2016-06-14 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks Mike, and thanks to everyone else who explained. My query about ‘result’ and ‘value’ wasn’t about arrays as such, it was about the use of those particular labels in that context - the answer is (I suppose) that one has to know the spec of the JSON that is being used in order to know

Re: csvToText Repository

2016-06-14 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 13/06/2016 12:45, Alex Tweedly wrote: "into an array" in what way ?presumably a numerically indexed array. Perhaps a more general feature requests would be to extend the 'split' command, so that it would parse by Primary and Secondary delimiters into numerically indexed arrays ?

Re: csvToText Repository

2016-06-14 Thread Peter M. Brigham
Although incorporating this into the engine is clearly the way to go, here are a couple of pure LC functions that are possibly relevant. They could be generalized to arbitrary line- and item-delimiters. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com --- function tabTableToArray pTable,

Re: LC8 - Stumbling into JSON

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner
Graham, The syntax you are asking about is array syntax. There are two axes in this particular array. They are called "result" and "value". The "round" is rounding the value to clean up the decimals. JSON is a web data standard. On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Mark Wieder

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread Colin Holgate
I’m running it from my internal drive, and open stack works fine. I do use the utility Default Folder, and that isn’t working it seems. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:12 AM, [-hh] wrote: > > Sadly LC is not OK with 10.12 here: > > Menu file > Open stack ... *crashes* LC

Re: [OT-ish] WWDC things of interest

2016-06-14 Thread [-hh]
Sadly LC is not OK with 10.12 here: Menu file > Open stack ... *crashes* LC immediately. Tested with LC 6/7/8 latest releases. [I'm running MacOS 10.12 beta (16A201w) from an external disk]. Is that system dialog working in LC with you? -- View this message in context: