Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Monte Goulding
LiveCode does use UIWebView. I can’t speak for the team but I would think it’s unlikely we would look at altering that until support for iOS 7 is dropped. Down the track with WKWebView having a common api on Mac 10.10 and iOS 8.0 it would make sense to share code when they are our minimum

help wanted!

2016-07-11 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi LiveCoders I have just pushed a patch to the LiveCode docs which changes all 2625 files. The patch does the following: - hard wraps the docs where appropriate/possible to 72 columns (this will make it easier for us to review changes) - fixes a few file name anomalies - removes web as a

Re: Windows Equivalents for Shell: cp (copy)

2016-07-11 Thread Mike Bonner
Windows has copy and xcopy as well as move and rename along with a bunch of other nifty things. On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami < bra...@hindu.org> wrote: > What alternatives do we have for basic shell commands on Windows? > > Rumors are out that later this year,

Windows Equivalents for Shell: cp (copy)

2016-07-11 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
What alternatives do we have for basic shell commands on Windows? Rumors are out that later this year, Windows will support bash.. and perhaps then Livecode's shell calls to unix/bash commands will be cross platform-- like the one (cp) in this script below. But until then, can anyone provide

How we got to the moon

2016-07-11 Thread Mark Wieder
# PLEASE CRANK THE SILLY THING AROUND ... # "IT WILL BE PROVED TO THY FACT THAT THOU HAST MEN ABOUT THEE THAT # USUALLY TALK OF A NOUN AND A VERB, AND SUCH ABOMINABLE

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Colin Holgate
I needed to use WKWebView not long ago, and started by making a native app test. As far as I could tell Xcode still uses UIWebView for Objective-C projects. I did find a Swift test project, and was able to prove how great WKWebView is. WKWebView requires iOS 8 or later, I think LiveCode still

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread jameshale
According to an article on TechRepublic ( http://www.how-to-migrate-to-https-using-app-transport-security-when-developing-ios-apps ) "If you're using WKWebView, an arbitrary

Re: portrait upside-down (iOS)

2016-07-11 Thread Randy Hengst
Ben, this works for me…. on startUp iphoneSetAllowedOrientations "portrait,portrait upside down" end startUp be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > > Attempting to support portrait

portrait upside-down (iOS)

2016-07-11 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Attempting to support portrait upside-down on iOS (specifically iPad); I've set the allowed orientations to portrait and portrait upside-down. Rotating the iPad has no effect. Tracking the orientationChanged message reports landscape left and right, but only "unknown" for the two portrait

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Dupuis wrote: >>> On 12 Jul 2016, at 6:55 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >>> >>> I wonder what happens if your app allows general browsing with, >>> say, a browser widget? > > And this is why I think what Apple is doing - regardless of the > security benefits - is wrong. Someone tell their

Re: screen capture from LC as video?

2016-07-11 Thread Terry Judd
Thanks Hugh - I¹m not much of a Windows user but I¹ll check it out. Which version of Expression (design or web) should I be looking at? Regards, Terry... On 12/07/2016 1:29 am, "use-livecode on behalf of FlexibleLearning.com"

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 7/11/2016 5:21 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > The browser widget will be blank. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 12 Jul 2016, at 6:55 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >> I wonder what happens if your app allows general browsing with, say, a >> browser widget? > And this is

RE: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Ralph DiMola
Jacqueline Landman Gay Wrote: > I wonder what happens if your app allows general browsing with, say, a browser widget? Good Question... All of my app's web services use https so this is good. But my app has a database of 3rd party URLs(3,000+) to various websites via the browser control. Some

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Monte Goulding
The browser widget will be blank. Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Jul 2016, at 6:55 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > I wonder what happens if your app allows general browsing with, say, a > browser widget? ___ use-livecode

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/11/2016 9:31 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: Of course, it should be pointed out here that ATS relates to app developers writing apps *not* general internet usage through browsers on iOS and Mac devices. i.e. Apple are saying - "if you have control over your servers and such then we expect you

Re: Parsing a PDF file

2016-07-11 Thread [-hh]
Sorry, an essential line is missing: replace "" with f0 in fScript Here the full (correct) button-script: local PDFfolder="/Users/admin/Downloads/precincts" on mouseUp set defaultfolder to PDFfolder put the files into ff filter ff with "*.pdf" put field "AS" into aScript

Re: Parsing a PDF file

2016-07-11 Thread [-hh]
> Roger E. wrote: > > Since this seems to be Mac only, why not "do as Applescript" then select > > all, and Copy? Kay C. L. wrote > Because Preview isn't properly scriptable and you can't "Select All" > or "Copy". As Richard said, the answer is with Automator. Automator is a GUI to "bundled"

RE: screen capture from LC as video?

2016-07-11 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
On Win32, try Microsoft Expression. The free version does all you describe. Hugh Senior FLCo > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:45:36 + > From: Terry Judd > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: screen capture from LC as video?

Re: Parsing a PDF file

2016-07-11 Thread Jim Hurley
Kay Lan wrote: In this particular case I found it much easier to open the PDF file in Adobe Acrobat and doing a “Save as — Text (Accessible)” Jim > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Roger Eller > > wrote: >> Since this seems to

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-07-11 16:43, Richard Gaskin wrote: HTTPS serves two purposes: one is encryption of data in transport, which may or may not be truly necessary. When when a server only hosts publicly-available information it may indeed seem overkill. I'd perhaps suggest that encryption of all internet

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter TB Brett wrote: On 11/07/2016 15:43, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Dupuis wrote: On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ... Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app store from the beginning of 2017. ... The "Let's Encrypt" project may be useful.

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 11/07/2016 15:43, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Dupuis wrote: On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ... Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app store from the beginning of 2017. ... The "Let's Encrypt" project may be useful. https://letsencrypt.org/ I

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Dupuis wrote: > On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ... >> Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app >> store from the beginning of 2017. ... >> The "Let's Encrypt" project may be useful. https://letsencrypt.org/ > > I realize that LiveCode has no influence

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Mike Bonner
Having a pass-through would work, it just always amazes me that "increased security" forces work arounds that in the end will decrease it. Forcing a developer to route all traffic through one hole in this manner so that they can actually keep things working basically sets up a huge clearinghouse

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-07-11 16:15, Paul Dupuis wrote: It is good to know that, at least for a time, some way to make exceptions exists. I still think, that all the benefits of HTTPS aside, taking choice away from consumers, is wrong and a "bad" move on Apple's part. They aren't taking the choice away from

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Alex Tweedly
You (i.e. a developer who has one of these apps that scrapes from non-hhtp sites) could always provide a "relay" site that took https connections, made the request to the http site and then forwarded the end result. -- Alex. On 11/07/2016 15:13, Paul Dupuis wrote: On 7/11/2016 9:42 AM,

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 7/11/2016 9:52 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > Of course, Apple will likely become more and more strict over time - > but it sounds like there is still 'plenty' of time for third-party > HTTP-only services to upgrade. I imagine there will be a great deal > less time for web services owned and

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 7/11/2016 9:42 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > If taken to court, I expect Apple would show evidence of the above and > argue that they are taking much-needed steps to ensure users' security > and safety, by making sure that the data the user receives is the same > as the data that was sent, and

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-07-11 14:25, Paul Dupuis wrote: I realize that LiveCode has no influence over Apple, but this is one of the most bone-headed thing Apple has ever done to it's developers. There are millions of web servers out there without any logins, serving publicly available data or information,

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 11/07/2016 13:25, Paul Dupuis wrote: I truly hope someone sues them over such censorship on 1st amendment (freedom of speech) grounds. According to my recollection of judicial precedent, the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution enjoins state and federal from prior restraint of speech, and

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi all, > > Many LiveCode developers currently disable (Application Transport > Security) ATS when deploying to iOS in order to access web resources > over insecure HTTP, rather than HTTPS > > Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 41

2016-07-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #41 here: https://goo.gl/yxN0VT This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and

Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

2016-07-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi all, Many LiveCode developers currently disable (Application Transport Security) ATS when deploying to iOS in order to access web resources over insecure HTTP, rather than HTTPS Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app store from the beginning of 2017. At that