RE: OSX/Xcode/LC Version Compatibility Panic

2016-09-13 Thread panagiotis merakos 
Hi Ralph,
LC 6.7.10 needs xcode 7.1 on OSX 10.11.

But why are you using 6.7.10 and not 6.7.11? Or why not 8.1.0 ?  :)

Panos
--
On 13 Sep 2016 21:27, "Ralph DiMola"  wrote:

I can't get a green box using 6.7.10 on OSX 10.11.6. I tried to use Xcode
7.3 and Xcode 7.3.1 and I get an error message: "The chosen folder is not a
valid iOS SDK..." I tried using 6.2 and 6.4 and although the SDK is
recognized by LC the mobile prefs box stays red. Anyone else have this
problem?

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of panagiotis merakos
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:20 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: OSX/Xcode/LC Version Compatibility Panic

Hi Ralph,

You can see that in the Release notes. IIRC, the following holds for all the
LC versions you are interested:

Xcode 6.2 on MacOSX 10.9
Xcode 6.2 and 7.2 on MacOSX 10.10
Xcode 7.3 on MacOSX 10.11

Regarding the problem your customer noticed on iOS 10, I guess it is this
one:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18327

If yes, the fix is merged and it will be included in the next LC 8.1.1 RC-1
release.

Best,
Panos
--

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Ralph DiMola 
wrote:

> I just upgraded my Mac getting ready for iOS 10. I thought I remember
> someone having a more complete list than the one on the LC web site.
> My current setup (that I have been submitting apps to the app store)
> isn't even on the LC list. (Mavericks/Xcode 6.2/ LC 6.7.x). A list
> like below would be very helpful not only to me but to the newbie.
>
> OSX version / Xcode version / LC version(s) / iOS version(s) /
> Simulator
> Version(s)
>
> Does anyone have a complete matrix?
>
> I just upgraded to OSX 10.11.6. I need to use LC
> 6.7.x/7.1.4/8.02/8.1.0 What versions of Xcode do I need to support
> what versions of iOS for the 4 LC versions I am using? I'm getting
> everything moved to 8.x but I am not there yet.
>
> ***One customer said an app choked on iOS 10 pre-release. I am
> upgrading a device to iOS 10 now to see what's happening. I might have
> a serious issue so I want to get this Xcode/LC version thing sorted out
today if possible.
>
> Thank in advance!
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
>
>
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[ANN] WordOut 1.3.004

2016-09-13 Thread Curry Kenworthy 


Are you ready to export Word documents from LiveCode?

If you've ever used WordLib, this is just the reverse. Issue a one-liner 
(wordout "field myDocument") and the contents of a LiveCode field become 
an MS Word file! That's it, you're done.


It slices, it dices, and folds up to a small electronic size (32K 
unzipped) for your daily commute. Your word processor will never look at 
you the same again. :) Yes folks, it's WordOut!


WordOut doesn't rely on Microsoft or any other product to write your 
Word file; it handles the file format natively with LC code. You don't 
even need MS Office installed.


Version 1.3 handles images and has added conveniences, including more 
options for input and handier document launch. It works great with 
LiveCode 8, and equally well with LC 5.5 and 6.7. So crank out some cool 
docs for your end users! Get it here:


http://livecodeaddons.com/wordout/

BTW, if you paid full price for WordLib (not a revBundle) before 2016 
there's a $20 discount for WordOut, just follow the directions at the store.


Speaking of which, WordLib 2.1 is also being tidied up for release. 
Celebrating 8 years of LC document imports! Thanks to LiveCode Ltd and 
my fans, friends, colleagues, and amazing clients. Those 8 years are 
hard to beat, but I'm hoping the next 8 will be even bigger, better, 
brighter, and bolder for all of us here.


WordOut recognizes tons of text formatting features, and you'll love the 
export quality, especially if you have optimized images. As always, 
unzip the download and use the Try WordOut stack to see things in 
action. Currently the Try stack also has the instructions and 
documentation. Enjoy your coding.


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy
http://curryk.com/consulting/

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RE: OSX/Xcode/LC Version Compatibility Panic

2016-09-13 Thread Ralph DiMola 
I can't get a green box using 6.7.10 on OSX 10.11.6. I tried to use Xcode
7.3 and Xcode 7.3.1 and I get an error message: "The chosen folder is not a
valid iOS SDK..." I tried using 6.2 and 6.4 and although the SDK is
recognized by LC the mobile prefs box stays red. Anyone else have this
problem?

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of panagiotis merakos
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:20 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: OSX/Xcode/LC Version Compatibility Panic

Hi Ralph,

You can see that in the Release notes. IIRC, the following holds for all the
LC versions you are interested:

Xcode 6.2 on MacOSX 10.9
Xcode 6.2 and 7.2 on MacOSX 10.10
Xcode 7.3 on MacOSX 10.11

Regarding the problem your customer noticed on iOS 10, I guess it is this
one:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18327

If yes, the fix is merged and it will be included in the next LC 8.1.1 RC-1
release.

Best,
Panos
--

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Ralph DiMola 
wrote:

> I just upgraded my Mac getting ready for iOS 10. I thought I remember 
> someone having a more complete list than the one on the LC web site. 
> My current setup (that I have been submitting apps to the app store) 
> isn't even on the LC list. (Mavericks/Xcode 6.2/ LC 6.7.x). A list 
> like below would be very helpful not only to me but to the newbie.
>
> OSX version / Xcode version / LC version(s) / iOS version(s) / 
> Simulator
> Version(s)
>
> Does anyone have a complete matrix?
>
> I just upgraded to OSX 10.11.6. I need to use LC 
> 6.7.x/7.1.4/8.02/8.1.0 What versions of Xcode do I need to support 
> what versions of iOS for the 4 LC versions I am using? I'm getting 
> everything moved to 8.x but I am not there yet.
>
> ***One customer said an app choked on iOS 10 pre-release. I am 
> upgrading a device to iOS 10 now to see what's happening. I might have 
> a serious issue so I want to get this Xcode/LC version thing sorted out
today if possible.
>
> Thank in advance!
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
>
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Re: attempt to delete unsaved stack bombs out in IDE

2016-09-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins 
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dr. Hawkins  wrote:

> "delete stack" bombs out to the end of the script, then to the end of the
> calling script, and gives the message,
>
> Script compile error:
>
> Error description: request: no 'type' expression
>
>
This is apparently happening because the stack in question was the active
stack, even though the handler is in a shared behavior.

send "delete stack " & stk to stack "mcp" in 0


solves this.
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attempt to delete unsaved stack bombs out in IDE

2016-09-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins 
I create stacks as I go along by cloning the source stacks.  I then try to
remove them.

"victims" was created by filtering the lines of the openStacks

   *lock* messages

   *repeat* for each word stk in victims

  *if* stk is among the lines of the openStacks *then*

 *close* stack stk

 *-- send "closeStack" to stack stk   *

 *delete* stack stk

  *end* *if*

   *end* *repeat*

   *unlock* messages

The "close stack" works fine.

"delete stack" bombs out to the end of the script, then to the end of the
calling script, and gives the message,

Script compile error:

Error description: request: no 'type' expression


The stacks are transient and for data entry.  I'm cloning so that I can
have more than one.  (Eventually, I'll get around to copying deleting
cards, but I had to make some other changes, and this was natural.

The stack is never, and should never, be saved to disk after creation.

Is this a bug, or am I missing something?

I'm using 7.1.4.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Mike Kerner 
The .1 doesn't do this one justice.  This is a big deal.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Skip Kimpel  wrote:

> Really, really excited about this release, especially sFTP and SMTP
> support!
>
> SKIP
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Mike Kerner 
> wrote:
>
> > Oh, yeah.  8.1 is out.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Peter TB Brett <
> peter.br...@livecode.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear list members,
> > >
> > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0, our latest
> > > feature release.
> > >
> > > Read more about LiveCode 8.1 here:
> > > https://livecode.com/livecode-8-1-is-a-major-minor-release
> > >
> > > Getting the Release
> > > ===
> > > You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> > > via the automatic updater.
> > >
> > > Release Contents
> > > 
> > > LiveCode 8.1 has several great new features:
> > >
> > > Faster, better networking with tsNet
> > > 
> > > In partnership with Tech Strategies, LiveCode Indy and Business
> editions
> > > now automatically use the new tsNet external to make your network-aware
> > > apps more reliable and responsive.
> > >
> > > Windows multimedia without QuickTime
> > > 
> > > A completely-rewritten Windows player object means that LiveCode 8.1
> has
> > > out-of-the-box video playback on Windows, Android, MacOS and iOS.
> > >
> > > Streamlined deployment
> > > --
> > > The updated and improved standalone builder automatically handles
> adding
> > > externals, extensions and script libraries to your app, and enables
> > > one-click deployment to all platforms.
> > >
> > > The full release notes are available from:
> > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_0.pdf
> > >
> > > LiveCode 8.1.0 contains 2 additional bug fixes since the LiveCode 8.1.0
> > RC
> > > 2 release.
> > >
> > > Known issues
> > > 
> > > * The Windows installer will fail when running from a network share
> > >
> > > * The browser widget does not work on 32-bit Linux
> > >
> > > * HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions
> > > with dependencies
> > >
> > > * 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio
> recording
> > > or the revVideoGrabber external
> > >
> > > Feedback
> > > 
> > >
> > > Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> > > http://quality.livecode.com/
> > >
> > >
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Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-13 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
Paul Hibbert wrote:

So I made a Plugin that allows me to refresh my PB. :)


BR: Can you share this with us?


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Skip Kimpel 
Really, really excited about this release, especially sFTP and SMTP support!

SKIP

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Mike Kerner 
wrote:

> Oh, yeah.  8.1 is out.
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Peter TB Brett  >
> wrote:
>
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0, our latest
> > feature release.
> >
> > Read more about LiveCode 8.1 here:
> > https://livecode.com/livecode-8-1-is-a-major-minor-release
> >
> > Getting the Release
> > ===
> > You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> > via the automatic updater.
> >
> > Release Contents
> > 
> > LiveCode 8.1 has several great new features:
> >
> > Faster, better networking with tsNet
> > 
> > In partnership with Tech Strategies, LiveCode Indy and Business editions
> > now automatically use the new tsNet external to make your network-aware
> > apps more reliable and responsive.
> >
> > Windows multimedia without QuickTime
> > 
> > A completely-rewritten Windows player object means that LiveCode 8.1 has
> > out-of-the-box video playback on Windows, Android, MacOS and iOS.
> >
> > Streamlined deployment
> > --
> > The updated and improved standalone builder automatically handles adding
> > externals, extensions and script libraries to your app, and enables
> > one-click deployment to all platforms.
> >
> > The full release notes are available from:
> > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_0.pdf
> >
> > LiveCode 8.1.0 contains 2 additional bug fixes since the LiveCode 8.1.0
> RC
> > 2 release.
> >
> > Known issues
> > 
> > * The Windows installer will fail when running from a network share
> >
> > * The browser widget does not work on 32-bit Linux
> >
> > * HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions
> > with dependencies
> >
> > * 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio recording
> > or the revVideoGrabber external
> >
> > Feedback
> > 
> >
> > Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> > http://quality.livecode.com/
> >
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
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[ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Peter TB Brett 

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0, our latest 
feature release.


Read more about LiveCode 8.1 here:
https://livecode.com/livecode-8-1-is-a-major-minor-release

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or 
via the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8.1 has several great new features:

Faster, better networking with tsNet

In partnership with Tech Strategies, LiveCode Indy and Business editions 
now automatically use the new tsNet external to make your network-aware 
apps more reliable and responsive.


Windows multimedia without QuickTime

A completely-rewritten Windows player object means that LiveCode 8.1 has 
out-of-the-box video playback on Windows, Android, MacOS and iOS.


Streamlined deployment
--
The updated and improved standalone builder automatically handles adding 
externals, extensions and script libraries to your app, and enables 
one-click deployment to all platforms.


The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_0.pdf

LiveCode 8.1.0 contains 2 additional bug fixes since the LiveCode 8.1.0 
RC 2 release.


Known issues

* The Windows installer will fail when running from a network share

* The browser widget does not work on 32-bit Linux

* HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions 
with dependencies


* 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio 
recording or the revVideoGrabber external


Feedback


Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/



Have fun!

The LiveCode Team

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Mike Kerner 
Oh, yeah.  8.1 is out.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Peter TB Brett 
wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0, our latest
> feature release.
>
> Read more about LiveCode 8.1 here:
> https://livecode.com/livecode-8-1-is-a-major-minor-release
>
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> via the automatic updater.
>
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 8.1 has several great new features:
>
> Faster, better networking with tsNet
> 
> In partnership with Tech Strategies, LiveCode Indy and Business editions
> now automatically use the new tsNet external to make your network-aware
> apps more reliable and responsive.
>
> Windows multimedia without QuickTime
> 
> A completely-rewritten Windows player object means that LiveCode 8.1 has
> out-of-the-box video playback on Windows, Android, MacOS and iOS.
>
> Streamlined deployment
> --
> The updated and improved standalone builder automatically handles adding
> externals, extensions and script libraries to your app, and enables
> one-click deployment to all platforms.
>
> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_0.pdf
>
> LiveCode 8.1.0 contains 2 additional bug fixes since the LiveCode 8.1.0 RC
> 2 release.
>
> Known issues
> 
> * The Windows installer will fail when running from a network share
>
> * The browser widget does not work on 32-bit Linux
>
> * HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions
> with dependencies
>
> * 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio recording
> or the revVideoGrabber external
>
> Feedback
> 
>
> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
>
>
> Have fun!
>
> The LiveCode Team
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Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-13 Thread Paul Hibbert 
The Application Browser has always had a Refresh Icon just below the right hand 
side of the left pane, it’s only small and light grey, but it’s there. When I 
suggested a Refresh button for the Project Browser, MW didn’t think it was a 
good idea! So I made a Plugin that allows me to refresh my PB. :)

Paul

> On Sep 13, 2016, at 5:36 AM, Roger Eller  wrote:
> 
> Why hide it behind a right-click?  A tiny recognisable refresh icon in
> plain sight would be better, IMHO.
> 
> ~Roger
> 
> On Sep 13, 2016 5:43 AM, "Ben Rubinstein"  wrote:
> 
>> On 13/09/2016 05:31, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>> 
>>> On September 12, 2016 9:57:40 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <
>>> bra...@hindu.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 But both the Project Browser and RevApplicationbrowser do not reflect the
 change. Once in a while they do… but 80% of the time, change of layers
 are
 not reflected/updated.
 
 Is there a way force refresh these lists?
 
>>> 
>>> For the App Browser, right click anywhere in the right hand pane and
>>> choose
>>> Refresh from the contextual menu.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'll just leave this here:
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17916
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
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Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay 
The tiny refresh icon is on the left side under the stack list. Only it's 
not always so recognizable.



Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On September 13, 2016 7:37:37 AM Roger Eller  
wrote:



Why hide it behind a right-click?  A tiny recognisable refresh icon in
plain sight would be better, IMHO.

~Roger

On Sep 13, 2016 5:43 AM, "Ben Rubinstein"  wrote:


On 13/09/2016 05:31, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On September 12, 2016 9:57:40 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <
bra...@hindu.org>
wrote:



But both the Project Browser and RevApplicationbrowser do not reflect the
change. Once in a while they do… but 80% of the time, change of layers
are
not reflected/updated.

Is there a way force refresh these lists?



For the App Browser, right click anywhere in the right hand pane and
choose
Refresh from the contextual menu.



I'll just leave this here:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17916

Ben


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Re: Why Chained Behaviors May Be A Bad Idea

2016-09-13 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
mwieder wrote:

Hopefully that's a typo and not a circular reference.
So

A
|
BC
|
D

Is perfectly reasonable. B has access to A, C has access to A, D has access
to C and A. But not B.

To use a textbook example,
if A=shape, B=circle, C=triangle, and D=right triangle
you wouldn't expect (or want) a right triangle to inherit anything from
circles, but any changes to triangle should be accessible from right
triangles. You might want all circles to be blue and all triangles to be
red. Those would be handlers in the B and C scripts. You could then have all
right triangles be black (in the D script), and that wouldn't affect other
types of triangles.

BR: yes that was a typo: thanks for this "textbook example"  very helpful… 

gives me the courage to try using it… as it could solve a number of challenges 
where re-use of code *should* be the best practice but exactly how to 
accomplish that without polluting a global API (backscript) with all kinds of 
non-global, extraneous handlers/functions (and mysterious since you lose 
context)… --one just needs to adopt a smart naming convention so that in the 
PB, you know what is going on by look at the behavior/scripts file names… 

Thanks for your patient responses

BR


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Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-13 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
I am not able to reproduce this, this morning after a fresh reboot of LC.

If I create new stack, create two groups with multiple objects and move one 
group into the other group, I can move it out again in the PB… I can also 
relayer objects in the property inspector and "fresh just out of the box" LC 
IDE and PB behave as expected. the PB is updated.


This goes to the overall problem I have experienced from the beginning with 
LC8.*…. as you use the IDE.. over time, mysterious things start happening in 
the background.

I have no recipe, but the overall symptom seems to be that in many different 
contexts, conditions start to arise where some IDE messages stop being passed, 
or IDE globals/locals that should be updated, are not… I was studying some past 
posts by Allie, where he discusses the new methods for revIDELibrary "catching" 
messages etc.. in the effort to encapsulate IDE functions etc…I think there is 
some flaw deep in that framework…

Here are just a few… I should start keeping a list.. and, as I watch this use 
list… I see others are report things that might just go away if they rebooted 
LC and tried again… (to be tested, your mileage may vary)

--  the Project Browser stops listening to changes in the Project inspector. 
-- The project inspector doesn't open from any contextual window.
-- Choose Card Script from the menu does nothing… SE does not open.
-- option-command click on an object will not invoke the SE/script for that 
object.
-- Editing script of an object in the PB opens the tab for a script of a 
different object in the SE
- preopenstack issued from the message box with a top stack open that has even 
a simple 

on preopenstack
answer "hello" with "OK"
end preopenstack

does not fire

-- in the message box you type something like 

resetGUI  (a command in your stack script)
and the msg box updates itself with

put resetGUI  

# without firing your command.

-- LC mysteriously opens an IDE stack breaking on some error deep in the IDE 
stack frame work "something went wrong on line 1867 of 
revWhatever.livecodescript" 

-- use of some plugins that used to work  are simply out of the question. at 
one time they did not interfere.. .now we find code breaking inside scripts of 
plugins… an error message and SE will open a tab with a script for a plug in 
today, that worked just fine two hours ago and yesterday… 

-- the script editor has a mind of it's own now… suddenly you have a failure 
because

"end resetGUI"  # has become

"nd resetGUI"  # and you were no where near that line with your cursor!  the SE 
just chopped of char 1 of the end of a handler (I experienced this many times 
in the past three days)
 
There are many more such failures that start piling up that 

It can get extremely frustrating to the point of ones love of LC turning a bit 
sour (I hear this from some others off list too… it's not just me)… you live 
with the anxiety that something you are trying to debug actually has nothing to 
do with one's own code/stacks/scripts… 

I've come to the point where my prompt 

 "Stand up and Stretch" has become 

"Stand up and stretch; Save all stacks, close all stacks manually and reboot 
LC" on the hour every hour.

These issues are so opaque/numerous that trying to report them is out of the 
question… otherwise you will not get any work done.  You just have to "bite the 
bullet" reboot and keep going…



I realize this "recipeless" report is not as helpful as a singular issue 
report, but my gut it telling me that there is probably something deep in the 
IDE framework that may be the underlying cause for *all* these issues.

I wonder if we could turn on some log thing and instead of reporting each 
failure.. .we work for a week and then send in the log?

BR

PS on the positive side, I just learned how to use getprop to fire/listen for 
virtual property. So you can have an object "broadcast" an "agnostic" event and 
different scripts and contexts can handle that in different ways. Awesome!  How 
many solutions I have struggled with that now are solvable with this!  It would 
be great to do a big lesson-demo on various uses of this for newbies… it's a 
bit opaque/esoteric…



On 9/13/16, 2:36 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Roger Eller" 
 wrote:

But both the Project Browser and RevApplicationbrowser do not reflect the
change. Once in a while they do… but 80% of the time, change of layers
are
not reflected/updated.

Is there a way force refresh these lists?


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Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-13 Thread Roger Eller 
Why hide it behind a right-click?  A tiny recognisable refresh icon in
plain sight would be better, IMHO.

~Roger

On Sep 13, 2016 5:43 AM, "Ben Rubinstein"  wrote:

> On 13/09/2016 05:31, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>> On September 12, 2016 9:57:40 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <
>> bra...@hindu.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But both the Project Browser and RevApplicationbrowser do not reflect the
>>> change. Once in a while they do… but 80% of the time, change of layers
>>> are
>>> not reflected/updated.
>>>
>>> Is there a way force refresh these lists?
>>>
>>
>> For the App Browser, right click anywhere in the right hand pane and
>> choose
>> Refresh from the contextual menu.
>>
>
> I'll just leave this here:
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17916
>
> Ben
>
>
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Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-13 Thread Ben Rubinstein 

On 13/09/2016 05:31, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On September 12, 2016 9:57:40 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
wrote:


But both the Project Browser and RevApplicationbrowser do not reflect the
change. Once in a while they do… but 80% of the time, change of layers are
not reflected/updated.

Is there a way force refresh these lists?


For the App Browser, right click anywhere in the right hand pane and choose
Refresh from the contextual menu.


I'll just leave this here:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17916

Ben


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