Re: Can the new player work with YouTube in 8.1.1?

2016-11-17 Thread Paul Hibbert
One way that does work with YouTube is to use a browser widget instead of the 
player control, then set the URL to the “embed” link provided by YouTube, but 
first, remove all of the iFrame tags and parameters, so in this case the URL 
would be, https://www.youtube.com/embed/K033kBr3C6c 


HTH

Paul

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Roger Eller  > wrote:
> 
> A YouTube URL doesn't seem to work as the fileName.  Is there some special
> method or format of the URL needed?
> 
> on mouseUp
> 
> set the fileName of player 1 to "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K033kBr3C6c 
> 
> "
> 
> end mouseUp
> 
> 
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Re: lcGoogleDrive, Livecode for FM, etc.

2016-11-17 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Alex

Yes one of the side effects of the LiveCode for FM project is a renewed push to 
show off what can be done with LiveCode to a community that hasn't seen it 
before and the oauth2 library and google drive library are a result of that. 
The oauth2 library is in/will be in LC community 9. We really wanted to 
facilitate people wrapping web services with this.

Google drive might possibly make 9 (not sure on the edition) but it may need to 
be fleshed out with more APIs than have been done thus far.

I also have a MIME library that has a pretty handy htmlText field to multipart 
email handler. It does embedded images too so it's quite helpful. That's what 
he Troubleshooting dialog uses. I believe that will be in community too.

Cheers

Monte

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Nov. 2016, at 11:29 am, Alex Tweedly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Actually, that subject line should probably be
> 
>lcGoogleDrive *without* Livecode for FM
> 
> 
> I see that one of the components listed under Livecode for FM is a library 
> for OAuth2 and GoogleDrive.
> 
> Have I missed any announcement of those being available generally - i.e. 
> without LC4FM ?I'm not expecting them to be free - but I do think they'd 
> be useful in themselves.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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lcGoogleDrive, Livecode for FM, etc.

2016-11-17 Thread Alex Tweedly


Actually, that subject line should probably be

lcGoogleDrive *without* Livecode for FM


I see that one of the components listed under Livecode for FM is a 
library for OAuth2 and GoogleDrive.


Have I missed any announcement of those being available generally - i.e. 
without LC4FM ?I'm not expecting them to be free - but I do think 
they'd be useful in themselves.


Thanks

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Re: Can the new player work with YouTube in 8.1.1?

2016-11-17 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
It might be the codec that YouTube is using. See:

http://video.stackexchange.com/questions/5318/how-does-youtube-encode-my-uploads-and-what-codec-should-i-use-to-upload

Peter


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Roger Eller  wrote:

> A YouTube URL doesn't seem to work as the fileName.  Is there some special
> method or format of the URL needed?
> 
> on mouseUp
> 
> set the fileName of player 1 to "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K033kBr3C6c
> "
> 
> end mouseUp
> 
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Can the new player work with YouTube in 8.1.1?

2016-11-17 Thread Roger Eller
A YouTube URL doesn't seem to work as the fileName.  Is there some special
method or format of the URL needed?

on mouseUp

set the fileName of player 1 to "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K033kBr3C6c
"

end mouseUp


~Roger
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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Bouncing is highly unusual for cloud based mail systems as it is now an 
ineffective method for spam systems to remove obsolete emails, and malicious 
spammers can use this to clean up their databases by purging the bounced 
emails, or trolling for valid email accounts. It can also be used as a 
distributed denial of service mechanism. Newer mail systems will just drop the 
email unless otherwise configured. Exchange defaults to bouncing. 

Bob S


> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:01 , Colin Holgate  wrote:
> 
> I’m using Mail, and my provider is Verizon. I checked my settings online, and 
> they do have an option where they delete spam automatically. I’ve changed 
> that to have it save the messages in a spamdetecter folder. I should be able 
> to see which messages are coming from the LiveCode lists.
> 
> Still not sure that any mail system would pretend to bounce the message, 
> instead of just blocking it.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:53 PM, J. Landman Gay  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Typically the hosting service handles the spam filtering before your email 
>> client gets it. That's the filter I was referring to. GMail users may not 
>> have the same options though.
>> 
>> On 11/17/16 1:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
>>> That would make sense if you had spam system that sent back a rejection 
>>> message. I don’t use spam filters, I just let some emails go into Mail’s 
>>> Junk mailbox. But I’ve also had the excessive bounce message a few times.
>>> 
>>> For what it’s worth, my Junk mailbox currently has four emails from Roger 
>>> Eller, one from Jan Schenkel, and two copies of the same email from the 
>>> LiveCode team.
>>> 
>>> The LiveCode team ones look like adverts, but the other messages seem 
>>> harmless.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:26 PM, J. Landman Gay  
 wrote:
 
 On 11/17/16 1:15 PM, Jacques Clavel wrote:
> The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
> just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
> (see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
> received again the messages from the list.
> Can I do something to help to solve the problem?
 
 I wonder if the problem is over-aggressive spam filtering. If a spam 
 filter bounces the list mail back to Mailman, you'd have "excessive 
 bounces".
 
 I am not having the problem. In my cPanel I have spam filtering set to the 
 default average level (5) and I receive list mails individually. I think 
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 I wonder if those people who are getting unsubscribed are receiving the 
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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Colin Holgate
I’m using Mail, and my provider is Verizon. I checked my settings online, and 
they do have an option where they delete spam automatically. I’ve changed that 
to have it save the messages in a spamdetecter folder. I should be able to see 
which messages are coming from the LiveCode lists.

Still not sure that any mail system would pretend to bounce the message, 
instead of just blocking it.


> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:53 PM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:
> 
> Typically the hosting service handles the spam filtering before your email 
> client gets it. That's the filter I was referring to. GMail users may not 
> have the same options though.
> 
> On 11/17/16 1:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
>> That would make sense if you had spam system that sent back a rejection 
>> message. I don’t use spam filters, I just let some emails go into Mail’s 
>> Junk mailbox. But I’ve also had the excessive bounce message a few times.
>> 
>> For what it’s worth, my Junk mailbox currently has four emails from Roger 
>> Eller, one from Jan Schenkel, and two copies of the same email from the 
>> LiveCode team.
>> 
>> The LiveCode team ones look like adverts, but the other messages seem 
>> harmless.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:26 PM, J. Landman Gay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/16 1:15 PM, Jacques Clavel wrote:
 The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
 just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
 (see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
 received again the messages from the list.
 Can I do something to help to solve the problem?
>>> 
>>> I wonder if the problem is over-aggressive spam filtering. If a spam filter 
>>> bounces the list mail back to Mailman, you'd have "excessive bounces".
>>> 
>>> I am not having the problem. In my cPanel I have spam filtering set to the 
>>> default average level (5) and I receive list mails individually. I think 
>>> sometimes the digest can appear as spam and that might cause a bounce. So I 
>>> wonder if those people who are getting unsubscribed are receiving the 
>>> digest? If you try receiving individual messages, do you still get the 
>>> warning?
>>> 
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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
Typically the hosting service handles the spam filtering before your 
email client gets it. That's the filter I was referring to. GMail users 
may not have the same options though.


On 11/17/16 1:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

That would make sense if you had spam system that sent back a rejection 
message. I don’t use spam filters, I just let some emails go into Mail’s Junk 
mailbox. But I’ve also had the excessive bounce message a few times.

For what it’s worth, my Junk mailbox currently has four emails from Roger 
Eller, one from Jan Schenkel, and two copies of the same email from the 
LiveCode team.

The LiveCode team ones look like adverts, but the other messages seem harmless.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:26 PM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:

On 11/17/16 1:15 PM, Jacques Clavel wrote:

The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
(see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
received again the messages from the list.
Can I do something to help to solve the problem?


I wonder if the problem is over-aggressive spam filtering. If a spam filter bounces the 
list mail back to Mailman, you'd have "excessive bounces".

I am not having the problem. In my cPanel I have spam filtering set to the 
default average level (5) and I receive list mails individually. I think 
sometimes the digest can appear as spam and that might cause a bounce. So I 
wonder if those people who are getting unsubscribed are receiving the digest? 
If you try receiving individual messages, do you still get the warning?

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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Colin Holgate
That would make sense if you had spam system that sent back a rejection 
message. I don’t use spam filters, I just let some emails go into Mail’s Junk 
mailbox. But I’ve also had the excessive bounce message a few times.

For what it’s worth, my Junk mailbox currently has four emails from Roger 
Eller, one from Jan Schenkel, and two copies of the same email from the 
LiveCode team.

The LiveCode team ones look like adverts, but the other messages seem harmless.


> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:26 PM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:
> 
> On 11/17/16 1:15 PM, Jacques Clavel wrote:
>> The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
>> just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
>> (see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
>> received again the messages from the list.
>> Can I do something to help to solve the problem?
> 
> I wonder if the problem is over-aggressive spam filtering. If a spam filter 
> bounces the list mail back to Mailman, you'd have "excessive bounces".
> 
> I am not having the problem. In my cPanel I have spam filtering set to the 
> default average level (5) and I receive list mails individually. I think 
> sometimes the digest can appear as spam and that might cause a bounce. So I 
> wonder if those people who are getting unsubscribed are receiving the digest? 
> If you try receiving individual messages, do you still get the warning?
> 
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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Looks like you are using Gmail. There may be a setting in your Gmail web page 
account settings where you can white list 
*@lists.runrev.com.

Bob S


On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:15 , Jacques Clavel 
mailto:jacques.cla...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks Bob,

The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
(see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
received again the messages from the list.
Can I do something to help to solve the problem?

Content of the mail :
Your membership in the mailing list use-livecode has been disabled due
to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
17-Nov-2016.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 11/17/16 1:15 PM, Jacques Clavel wrote:

The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
(see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
received again the messages from the list.
Can I do something to help to solve the problem?


I wonder if the problem is over-aggressive spam filtering. If a spam 
filter bounces the list mail back to Mailman, you'd have "excessive 
bounces".


I am not having the problem. In my cPanel I have spam filtering set to 
the default average level (5) and I receive list mails individually. I 
think sometimes the digest can appear as spam and that might cause a 
bounce. So I wonder if those people who are getting unsubscribed are 
receiving the digest? If you try receiving individual messages, do you 
still get the warning?


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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Jacques Clavel
Thanks Bob,

The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
(see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
received again the messages from the list.
Can I do something to help to solve the problem?

Content of the mail :
Your membership in the mailing list use-livecode has been disabled due
to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
17-Nov-2016.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
(leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/confirm/use-livecode/
f17a8c7b29616ab1770a683
blablabla...
(more hex chars)


You can also visit your membership page at

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/options/use-livecode/
jacques.clavel%40gmail.com


On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such
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2016-11-17 16:55 GMT+01:00 Bob Sneidar :

> Possibly because someone is using your email address in a forged header to
> send spam to others and your address is the one that has been reported and
> blocked in spam filters everywhere. Without seeing the initial bounce
> messages, no one can tell. Do you have one of those? I can look at it for
> you.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 22:19 , Jacques Clavel  mailto:jacques.cla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I don't understand why I was disabled for the third time from the list and
> received this message "excessive bounces" as I haven't sent message to the
> list since two years at least (but I read all posts).
>
> Jacques Clavel
>
> 2016-11-04 2:51 GMT+01:00 J. Landman Gay  jac...@hyperactivesw.com>>:
>
> And this is a test post because the one I sent hours ago never showed up.
>
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com jac...@hyperactivesw.com>
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ttp://www.hyperactivesw.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On November 3, 2016 8:24:49 PM Mike Kerner  mailto:mikeker...@roadrunner.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I just had that happen, again - second time in a week.
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Re: Inconsistent results in simple script

2016-11-17 Thread Phil Davis

Amen!
First there was sliced bread...
Then there was LC text parsing...
Then came ARRAYS!
(choir singing in background)

Phil Davis


On 11/17/16 7:59 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Take Richard's advice. I did and I've never looked back. There are some 
situations where text parsing becomes cumbersome.

Bob S



On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:51 , Richard Gaskin  wrote:

JOHN PATTEN wrote:

When you don’t use arrays very much, and you have old, slow, brute
force scripting skills, arrays are kind of hard to wrap your head
around. But I obviously see their advantages :)

Arrays are so useful in so many contexts that they're well worth spending an 
afternoon experimenting with to really grok them.

Once grokked, they open up many worlds of simpler, more efficient algos across 
a wide range of use cases.

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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Possibly because someone is using your email address in a forged header to send 
spam to others and your address is the one that has been reported and blocked 
in spam filters everywhere. Without seeing the initial bounce messages, no one 
can tell. Do you have one of those? I can look at it for you.

Bob S


On Nov 16, 2016, at 22:19 , Jacques Clavel 
mailto:jacques.cla...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I don't understand why I was disabled for the third time from the list and
received this message "excessive bounces" as I haven't sent message to the
list since two years at least (but I read all posts).

Jacques Clavel

2016-11-04 2:51 GMT+01:00 J. Landman Gay 
mailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com>>:

And this is a test post because the one I sent hours ago never showed up.

Jacqueline Landman Gay | 
jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | 
http://www.hyperactivesw.com




On November 3, 2016 8:24:49 PM Mike Kerner 
mailto:mikeker...@roadrunner.com>>
wrote:

I just had that happen, again - second time in a week.

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Re: Inconsistent results in simple script

2016-11-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Take Richard's advice. I did and I've never looked back. There are some 
situations where text parsing becomes cumbersome. 

Bob S


> On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:51 , Richard Gaskin  wrote:
> 
> JOHN PATTEN wrote:
> > When you don’t use arrays very much, and you have old, slow, brute
> > force scripting skills, arrays are kind of hard to wrap your head
> > around. But I obviously see their advantages :)
> 
> Arrays are so useful in so many contexts that they're well worth spending an 
> afternoon experimenting with to really grok them.
> 
> Once grokked, they open up many worlds of simpler, more efficient algos 
> across a wide range of use cases.
> 
> -- 
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> Fourth World Systems
> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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Re: [ANN] LiveCode for FM Brings Easy Flexible Coding to FileMaker Apps

2016-11-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
THAT is interesting. However, there is still a licensing issue for Filemaker 
standalones which is why I am using Livecode now. But for developing for 
clients who already use Filemaker clients, this could be a great thing! 

Bob S


> On Nov 16, 2016, at 09:42 , Heather Laine  wrote:
> 
> Dear List members,
> 
> Today we are proud to announce the first release of the LiveCode for FM beta:
> 
> https://filemaker.livecode.com
> 
> This allows you to use the power of LiveCode inside FileMaker, bringing the 
> best of both worlds to your app. FileMaker excels at providing data driven 
> capabilities while LiveCode excels at native app centric features. By running 
> LiveCode applications within FileMaker a whole new class of interactive app 
> can now be created rapidly by using the unique strengths from each 
> environment.
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Re: savingStandalone message

2016-11-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Just discovered that the reason for this is that the compiler somehow changed 
the path to the mainstack in the Stack Properties Stack Files. What the...??? I 
reset the path to the main stack and now I can compile.

Bob S


On Nov 15, 2016, at 09:37 , Bob Sneidar 
mailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>> wrote:

I just compiled for Mac only and the dialog about the open library does not 
appear. However I am getting this runtime error:

Executing at 9:35:40 AM on Tuesday, November 15, 2016
Type: Handler: error in statement
Object: stack '/Applications/Forms Generator.app/Contents/MacOS/Forms Generator'
Line: go invisible to card 'Main' of stack 'Forms Generator'
Line Num: 12
Hint: openStack

Comments:

Remember this compiles on 8.0.1 some something dramatic has changed. And not in 
a good way.

Bob S

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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Colin Holgate
Heather is looking into the issue, and it’s not bounces of posts that you tried 
to make, it's bounces of the emails other people posted, when they try to get 
sent to you.


> On Nov 16, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Jacques Clavel  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand why I was disabled for the third time from the list and
> received this message "excessive bounces" as I haven't sent message to the
> list since two years at least (but I read all posts).
> 
> Jacques Clavel
> 
> 2016-11-04 2:51 GMT+01:00 J. Landman Gay :
> 
>> And this is a test post because the one I sent hours ago never showed up.
>> 
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On November 3, 2016 8:24:49 PM Mike Kerner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just had that happen, again - second time in a week.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Bob Sneidar 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, that being said, my spam filter is reporting fairly regularly that
 certain use list accounts have been quarantined for spam. This can happen
 if someone gets ahold of your email address, then uses it in a spoofed
 header to distribute spam. Alternately, some people also actually *do*
 send
 spam from their own account by adding WAY to dam many email addresses in
 the TO: or CC: fields. This is not the way to do this. Use the :BCC field
 for large numbers of email addresses, and even then, if you have that
 many
 addresses, use a list server instead.
 
 Bob S
 
 
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:31 , Dr. Hawkins  wrote:
> 
> Did anyone else get de-subscribed recently?
> 
> I got an email, that got filtered to promotions, that I was
 unsubscribed
 on
> 10/28 due to excessive bounces--but this is a gmail account.
> 
> And what's the best way to sift through a few days of archives?
> 
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>>> On the second day, God created the oceans.
>>> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
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LC 6 to 8 some strange expieriences aligning objects at resizeStack

2016-11-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

I am migrating an old LC 2-6 stack to LC 8.1.1 In this stack I resize and
arrange all objects by script when resizing the window.

First experience was, that on Windows everything worked the same as in LC 6,
all objects looked fine and aligned when resizing.

On OS X 10.11 I am still fiddling around since some days to get all objects
aligned. The nasty thing is, that I now have lots of code, which I have to
differentiate between Win and Mac, where I had all the same code for
resizing up to now in LC 6.

One of the tiny, nasty things is, that the rect of an option button now can
be different, as the visible rect of the button. Only at the default button
height of 22 both are congruent. I know, this is a new thing of the
underlying OS X drawing routines. But since I can't test it, I have no idea,
what happens going back on a 10.8 system or to Sierra, are there the same
graphic objects, or do I have to differentiate for 10.8,10.9,..?

What is more annoying is that the height of the stack isn't anymore the same
as the parameter newHeight of the resizeStack handler (what it was before on
OS X and still is on Windows). Again lots more of code differentiation.

Another weird issue is that the video appears 26 pixel lower as the player
object is located (26 is the height of my stack menubar). Now I have to
place the player object more to top by the height of the menubar. Since I
couldn't create a recipie in a test stack for this strange issue, I didn't
reported this as a bug. Again here I feel very unsafe if this hard coded
workaround to place the player object more to top, as the video has to
appear, works on all OS X platforms.

Now I feel very uncomfortable with LC 8.1.1 shortly before release.
(Unfortunatly I discovered these resizing anomalies on OS X pretty late in
my project) 

Do you have any similar experiences? Any recommendations?

Tiemo

 

 

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AW: German Umlaute get corrupted on macOS Sierra

2016-11-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
I have found a workaround, though not the reason.
The version of my program with the corrupted Umlaute is from 2013. I have send 
my customer a test version of a newer version of my program from 2014 and 
voila, all Umlaute appear correct.
This show to me that the issue is a Livecode issue in combination with Sierra. 
Since I don't have a history, which standalone I have build with which LC 
version (I should start with such a history now), I can't say which LC 6 
version works with Sierra and which LC 6 version not. I think some nerds can 
find the LC version in the hex file of the stack, but I can't.
Does anybody remembers if there was some change in handling code tables?
Any other idea as giving the customer a free upgrade?
Tiemo


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von 
Tiemo Hollmann TB
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. November 2016 17:20
An: 'How to use LiveCode' 
Betreff: AW: German Umlaute get corrupted on macOS Sierra

Hello Hermann and Paul,
good idea, but my customer checked "Tahoma" with the fontbook and it is 
installed and looks fine in the fontbook.
I also tried the indirect enter with holding the "u" for 2 sec and then 
choosing the "ü" from the menu, but the letter also is corrupted, when 
displayed in the field. Very weird.
Thanks
Tiemo

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von 
Paul Hibbert
Gesendet: Montag, 14. November 2016 22:07
An: How to use LiveCode 
Betreff: Re: German Umlaute get corrupted on macOS Sierra

I run Sierra on an older iMac (2009) and a newer MacBook Pro, I don’t see any 
problem with LC6, I just tested the German Umlaut with pasted text as well as 
typed text in LC5.5.5, LC6.7.11(rc2) and LC8.1.2(rc1) and I’m seeing exactly 
the same result in all 3 versions, the umlauts are present and correct.

If it’s just one customer on one Mac, I would guess that maybe it’s a Font 
problem, can you check if they have the same font installed that your app uses, 
and if it is, maybe they need to check for font problems with the Font Book.app 
(should be in their Applications Folder).

Paul

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> Today a customer with a Mac book Air and macOS Sierra called me and 
> told me that all German Umlaute in my LC 6 program are corrupted 
> (while they are working fine in all other programs). This is in text 
> displayed in fields as well as text entered in fields.
> 
> Since I don't have Sierra yet installed on my machine, I can't 
> reproduce, if this is a general Sierra issue, or something special on 
> that customer machine. Since this is the first customer telling me 
> this problem I don't even know, if no other customer has installed 
> Sierra yet and it's a LC 6 - Sierra issue or if others already have 
> installed Sierra and don't see this issue.
> 
> 
> 
> I checked with this customer all language and keyboard layout settings 
> and they are all standard German, like on my 10.11 machine.
> 
> Has anybody any idea what could cause such a phenomenon? Any idea what 
> to look for? Or is LC 6 just incompatible with Sierra?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: savingStandalone message

2016-11-17 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi all

Ali I would find it really useful if we could set a build number for iOS builds 
inside the plist file where I’m using the 'external test’ functionality in 
TestFlight

I normally use my own way of setting and recording build numbers - and I’m 
happy to carry on doing do. But where there’s a problem is that there is 
currently no way to indicate to iTunesConnect what an app’s build number is as 
a separate value to the app’s version number (see 
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14163 
) - this means we can’t 
upload incremented binaries of the same version number to iTunesConnect for 
rapid deployment via TestFlight, and must instead upload an incremented version 
and then wait around three days for it to exit ‘Beta review'

So, if you are making changes to the standalone builder and including an option 
for build number could you bear TestFlight in mind?

Kind regards

Dave 



> Thanks for the feedback Paul. How is your build number increment 
> implemented? 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM Paul Dupuis <[hidden email] 
> >
>  wrote: 
> 
> > I make use of the savingStandalone message in a few projects. Generally, 
> > I would prefer a single message regardless of the number of platforms I 
> > am building for. For ecample, I set a incremental "build' number on 
> > savingStandalone and I would want that build number to be the same for 
> > all platforms built for. If the message was sent for each platform I 
> > suspect I could come up with some what to still do this, but the code 
> > complexity would increase for a relatively simple task. 
> > 
> > It would seem to me that if you are looking for platform specific 
> > actions to modify the stack(s) used in each platform build, then ideally 
> > you would want a set of platform specific messages. i.e 
> > 
> > savingStandaloneForWindows 
> > savingStandaloneForOSX 
> > savingStandaloneForiOS 
> > savingStandaloneForAndroid 
> > savingStandaloneForHTML5 
> > ... 
> > 
> > Or something like that. That way if you only meed to make a specific 
> > scripted stack modification for Android, you only need to handle that 
> > specific message. 
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/15/2016 4:45 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: 
> > > Hi all, 
> > > 
> > > Various tweaks to the standalone builder seem to have broken the way the 
> > > savingStandalone message is supposed to work 
> > > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18778 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have submitted a pull request that fixes it - the only wrinkle might be 
> > > that it reintroduces the following bug: 
> > > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18364 
> > > , namely that the 
> > > savingStandalone message gets sent for each build platform. 
> > > 
> > > Now, my personal view is that that is how it should work, provided the 
> > > stack state is restored before building for the next platform. It allows 
> > a 
> > > more fine-grained build step where, if we added suitable parameters to 
> > the 
> > > message, you could for example ensure substacks with 
> > platform/architecture 
> > > specific resources were not included in the standalones where they are 
> > > irrelevant. 
> > > 
> > > My question to you is the same as I asked Lyn Teyla in the above report: 
> > > 
> > > Would the following behavior be a problem for your use case, and if so 
> > why? 
> > > 
> > > store stack state (*) 
> > > repeat for each target architecture 
> > >dispatch saving standalone message 
> > >modify stack for per-arch settings 
> > >deploy stack 
> > >restore to state in (*) 
> > >dispatch standalone saved message 
> > > end repeat 
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Re: autoScript

2016-11-17 Thread Kay C Lan
Manually enter a scrip into btn "BB"

Then modify your first mentioned script to:

on mouseUp
  put the script of btn "BB" into oldScript
  put "make me coffee" into newScript
  set the script of btn "BB" to newScript
  put the script of btn "BB" into checkScript
  breakpoint
end mouseUp

With debug mode ON, running the script should stop at the breakpoint
and you should be able to check the values of:

oldScript
newScript
checkScript

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Re: autoScript

2016-11-17 Thread AndyP
Try replacing btn with button
I noticed in a couple of versions btn was not picked up but button was




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