date:20161128

Sent link to attachment in the bug report. Only one day to DL. (Probably should 
have made that longer in retrospect.) 10 megs is not very large attachment 
limit for the stacks getting created these days.

Bob S


On Nov 22, 2016, at 15:52 , Bob Sneidar 
> wrote:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18896

Hi all.

Anyone having Save As Standalone isues in 8.1.1 and up should look at this bug 
report. Essentially, if I have a splash stack that references a Main Stack, 
which itself has library stacks in it's Stack Files settings, and I Save As 
Standalone for OS X and Windows, and I autodetect libraries, the "compiler" 
ADDS the libraries to the Splash Stack Stack Files list, but adds the WRONG 
COPIES. It adds the copy meant to go with the Windows standalone, so that when 
the app for OS X is run, it cannot find the libraries.

Please take the time to one up this bug. As is I cannot test standalones beyond 
8.0.1 as is.

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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

2016-11-28 Thread Mike Bonner

My english skills are degrading at a high rate of speed apparently.  Fixes:
 "set it up clean and up to date"  and "at the end of each day, multicast
the clean image to all computers to prep for the next day"

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Mike Bonner  wrote:

> If you have a spare machine and a large drive to store images, you might
> look at FOG.  When I was working at the local computer lab it was very
> helpful since people can be..shall we say, destructive.  We had a couple
> groups of machines, and would use one as master.  Set it up clean and up to
> day, use fog to do an image backup, then multi cast (pxe boot) to all the
> matching machines.  At the end of each day, do a multicast to imaging to
> each machine to prep for the next day.  On maintenance day, load the master
> machine, do its updates, refresh the image to the fog server and then push
> the new image out to the rest of the machines.
>
> Even if you just use it to cache image backups for multiple individual
> machines, it works very well. And I think it has greatly improved since I
> last used it.  Its a great way to manage things. In fact, if you are about
> to do a version upgrade to a machine, its pretty easy to back up the
> current, do the update and if things don't go as expected, roll back to a
> previous version.  (in case you haven't noticed, I really like the way fog
> works)
> Too late to help now, but for future safety you can read up on it here:
> https://fogproject.org/
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Richard Gaskin <
> ambassa...@fourthworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>
>> > I was unaware that there was malware for Linux :(
>>
>> Everything is hackable.
>>
>>
>> > I turned on my Xubuntu system this morning and found *nothing*,
>> >
>> > so I started the machine up from a GParted boot disk and found that
>> > not only had my boot disk been deleted, all the files on my other 2
>> > hard drives had vanished
>> >
>> > and were not recoverable by GParted.
>> >
>> > I would be most grateful for any advice in this respect.
>>
>> This may or may not be malware.
>>
>> A more common attack would encrypt your files and demand bitcoin ransom.
>> Merely deleting the files means an attacker would be working with no
>> benefit to themselves; not impossible, but with so many more lucrative
>> opportunities it seems unlikely.
>>
>> It may just be some sort of glitch (though it does seem an odd one).
>>
>> To get some help diagnosing and possibly repairing the situation, I would
>> recommend taking advantage of the Ubuntu forums, where they have a section
>> for general help with derivative flavors like Xubuntu here:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> > I was naive enough to think that backing up data onto other hard
>> > drives within the same computer was safe.
>>
>> Better than no backup at all, but not without risks.
>>
>> With HDDs currently available for about US$50/TB I've become a big fan of
>> removable portable drives.
>>
>> I've collected quite a few, used in rotation with each containing the
>> last set of files from the day before.
>>
>> I use my secondary internal drive for incremental backups made with the
>> backup utility included with Ubuntu, so I can restore any given file to any
>> version over the last several months.
>>
>> And then I further hedge my bets with both a NextCloud setup which backs
>> up and versions my work files to my office server, and a second mirror
>> repository on my Mac which is also backed up to an attached drive via Time
>> Machine.
>>
>> Given that all software has bugs, and some will eventually make mash of a
>> backup, and that all hard drives will eventually fail, this
>> multiply-redundant setup helps mitigate those risks, using HDDs I'd
>> acquired over the years for various purposes so the redundancy has grown
>> over time.
>>
>> Of course manually managing these would be quite a time waster, so I
>> wrote a pair of bash scripts, one for my Linux box and one for my Mac,
>> which use rsync to automate the copying.  So now at the end of the day I
>> just run one script on my Linux box, then a second on my Mac, and when
>> they're done I have four local copies of everything (five for work files
>> thanks to the always-updating NextCloud) and one removable drive updated to
>> take home with the others for offsite protection.
>>
>> Back in the '90s I lost a big chunk of critical data in a hard drive
>> failure.  For me, taking a few minutes at the end of the day to run an
>> automated redundant backup helps me sleep better.
>>
>> --
>>  Richard Gaskin
>>  Fourth World Systems
>>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>>  
>>  ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
>>
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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

2016-11-28 Thread Mike Bonner

If you have a spare machine and a large drive to store images, you might
look at FOG.  When I was working at the local computer lab it was very
helpful since people can be..shall we say, destructive.  We had a couple
groups of machines, and would use one as master.  Set it up clean and up to
day, use fog to do an image backup, then multi cast (pxe boot) to all the
matching machines.  At the end of each day, do a multicast to imaging to
each machine to prep for the next day.  On maintenance day, load the master
machine, do its updates, refresh the image to the fog server and then push
the new image out to the rest of the machines.

Even if you just use it to cache image backups for multiple individual
machines, it works very well. And I think it has greatly improved since I
last used it.  Its a great way to manage things. In fact, if you are about
to do a version upgrade to a machine, its pretty easy to back up the
current, do the update and if things don't go as expected, roll back to a
previous version.  (in case you haven't noticed, I really like the way fog
works)
Too late to help now, but for future safety you can read up on it here:
https://fogproject.org/

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:

> Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>
> > I was unaware that there was malware for Linux :(
>
> Everything is hackable.
>
>
> > I turned on my Xubuntu system this morning and found *nothing*,
> >
> > so I started the machine up from a GParted boot disk and found that
> > not only had my boot disk been deleted, all the files on my other 2
> > hard drives had vanished
> >
> > and were not recoverable by GParted.
> >
> > I would be most grateful for any advice in this respect.
>
> This may or may not be malware.
>
> A more common attack would encrypt your files and demand bitcoin ransom.
> Merely deleting the files means an attacker would be working with no
> benefit to themselves; not impossible, but with so many more lucrative
> opportunities it seems unlikely.
>
> It may just be some sort of glitch (though it does seem an odd one).
>
> To get some help diagnosing and possibly repairing the situation, I would
> recommend taking advantage of the Ubuntu forums, where they have a section
> for general help with derivative flavors like Xubuntu here:
>
> 
>
>
> > I was naive enough to think that backing up data onto other hard
> > drives within the same computer was safe.
>
> Better than no backup at all, but not without risks.
>
> With HDDs currently available for about US$50/TB I've become a big fan of
> removable portable drives.
>
> I've collected quite a few, used in rotation with each containing the last
> set of files from the day before.
>
> I use my secondary internal drive for incremental backups made with the
> backup utility included with Ubuntu, so I can restore any given file to any
> version over the last several months.
>
> And then I further hedge my bets with both a NextCloud setup which backs
> up and versions my work files to my office server, and a second mirror
> repository on my Mac which is also backed up to an attached drive via Time
> Machine.
>
> Given that all software has bugs, and some will eventually make mash of a
> backup, and that all hard drives will eventually fail, this
> multiply-redundant setup helps mitigate those risks, using HDDs I'd
> acquired over the years for various purposes so the redundancy has grown
> over time.
>
> Of course manually managing these would be quite a time waster, so I wrote
> a pair of bash scripts, one for my Linux box and one for my Mac, which use
> rsync to automate the copying.  So now at the end of the day I just run one
> script on my Linux box, then a second on my Mac, and when they're done I
> have four local copies of everything (five for work files thanks to the
> always-updating NextCloud) and one removable drive updated to take home
> with the others for offsite protection.
>
> Back in the '90s I lost a big chunk of critical data in a hard drive
> failure.  For me, taking a few minutes at the end of the day to run an
> automated redundant backup helps me sleep better.
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World Systems
>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>  
>  ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
>
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Re: Serving Videos with LC/iRev

Rick Harrison wrote:

>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
>>
>> FYI  the PHP forums mentioned devious ways to get info from folders
>> outside of web root using INCLUDE.
>>
>> In a test with LIVECODE SERVER I was able to get html data from a
>> text file inside of a folder above a web root using INCLUDE  but I
>> didn't explore further.
>
> Hmm.. that’s rather disturbing for security isn’t it.
> So much for PHP.  That’s why it’s best not to
> set up PHP to be able to be used on servers.

Just about any language that can support file I/O can read and write 
files from any location it has access to.

Scripting engines don't generally care whether they're asked to read:

/home/user/htdocs/something.lc

...or:

   /home/user/something.lc

If you set your folder and file permissions correctly, and properly 
sanitize inputs, there's nothing inherently unsafe about it.

On the contrary, sometimes it can be safer to be able to make use of 
data stored outside the web root, under the control of your script.

For example, Wordpress, Drupal, and most other systems that need to 
connect to a database need to store the password to the DB somewhere. 
Keeping that in the web root would be unsafe, so those systems usually 
keep it outside of that.

In most of my server systems I even keep stack files outside of the web 
root, served up with my CGI.  This keeps them safely away from spiders, 
and allows me to ensure authentication before access.

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Re: Serving Videos with LC/iRev

2016-11-28 Thread Rick Harrison

Hi Stephen,

Hmm.. that’s rather disturbing for security isn’t it.
So much for PHP.  That’s why it’s best not to
set up PHP to be able to be used on servers.

Thanks for the information.

Rick

> On Nov 28, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Stephen Barncard  wrote:
> 
> FYI  the PHP forums mentioned devious ways to get info from folders outside
> of web root using INCLUDE.
> 
> In a test with LIVECODE SERVER I was able to get html data from a text file
> inside of a folder above a web root using INCLUDE   but I didn't explore
> further.

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Re: Serving Videos with LC/iRev

2016-11-28 Thread Stephen Barncard

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Richard Harrison  wrote:

> Well I was trying to talk in black-box terms here, but I can
> see that isn’t sufficient information for you as inquiring
> minds always want to know.  It really shouldn’t hurt if
> I reveal the third party anyway.
>

FYI  the PHP forums mentioned devious ways to get info from folders outside
of web root using INCLUDE.

In a test with LIVECODE SERVER I was able to get html data from a text file
inside of a folder above a web root using INCLUDE   but I didn't explore
further.
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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

Unfortunately it is not a matter of permissions: I have been reliably 
informed that my boot partition
has been set to "unallocated space" and that my 'home' partition, while 
retaining the file structure

(directories and so forth) conatins no actula files beyond a few GIF files.

Richmond.

On 11/28/16 9:45 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> On 11/28/16 9:25 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Anything noteworthy in ~/.bash_history, /var/log/auth.log, or
>> /var/log/syslog?
>>
>> Are those files even remaining?
>>
> There seems to be no way to get at those files if they still remain
> on the partition.

If it's a matter of permissions you can use:

   sudo su

...to become root (be careful while you're root, of course).




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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system


Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> On 11/28/16 9:25 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Anything noteworthy in ~/.bash_history, /var/log/auth.log, or
>> /var/log/syslog?
>>
>> Are those files even remaining?
>>
> There seems to be no way to get at those files if they still remain
> on the partition.

If it's a matter of permissions you can use:

   sudo su

...to become root (be careful while you're root, of course).

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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

No: the root account was not enabled, and as the thing won't boot there 
is no way one can tell

if a password has been changed.

Running *extundelete* from a live disk keeps giving this sort of
message on all the partitions of all the disks inside the machine:

Failed to restore inode 11796494 to file 
RECOVERED_FILES/file.11796494:Unable to set proper file size (enormous 
numner in brackets)


Prior to that extundelete shows that it *can* see files on the disk 
partitions.


Richmond.

On 11/28/16 9:29 pm, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Can anything not running as root even do this?? And if not, is root account 
enabled? and if so, has the password been changed?

Bob S


On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:25 , Richard Gaskin 
> wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

Once *extundelete* told me "space has been reallocated" I knew
everything was cooked.

It may not be recoverable, but I'm curious as to how it happened in the first 
place.

Anything noteworthy in ~/.bash_history, /var/log/auth.log, or /var/log/syslog?

Are those files even remaining?

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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

There seems to be no way to get at those files if they still remain on 
the partition.

Richmond.

On 11/28/16 9:25 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> Once *extundelete* told me "space has been reallocated" I knew
> everything was cooked.

It may not be recoverable, but I'm curious as to how it happened in 
the first place.

Anything noteworthy in ~/.bash_history, /var/log/auth.log, or 
/var/log/syslog?

Are those files even remaining?

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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

Can anything not running as root even do this?? And if not, is root account 
enabled? and if so, has the password been changed?

Bob S

On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:25 , Richard Gaskin 
> wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> Once *extundelete* told me "space has been reallocated" I knew
> everything was cooked.

It may not be recoverable, but I'm curious as to how it happened in the first 
place.

Anything noteworthy in ~/.bash_history, /var/log/auth.log, or /var/log/syslog?

Are those files even remaining?

--
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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system


Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> Once *extundelete* told me "space has been reallocated" I knew
> everything was cooked.

It may not be recoverable, but I'm curious as to how it happened in the 
first place.


Anything noteworthy in ~/.bash_history, /var/log/auth.log, or 
/var/log/syslog?


Are those files even remaining?

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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

Once *extundelete* told me "space has been reallocated" I knew 
everything was cooked.

Richmond.

On 11/28/16 5:30 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> I was unaware that there was malware for Linux :(

Everything is hackable.

> I turned on my Xubuntu system this morning and found *nothing*,
>
> so I started the machine up from a GParted boot disk and found that
> not only had my boot disk been deleted, all the files on my other 2
> hard drives had vanished
>
> and were not recoverable by GParted.
>
> I would be most grateful for any advice in this respect.

This may or may not be malware.

A more common attack would encrypt your files and demand bitcoin 
ransom.  Merely deleting the files means an attacker would be working 
with no benefit to themselves; not impossible, but with so many more 
lucrative opportunities it seems unlikely.

It may just be some sort of glitch (though it does seem an odd one).

To get some help diagnosing and possibly repairing the situation, I 
would recommend taking advantage of the Ubuntu forums, where they have 
a section for general help with derivative flavors like Xubuntu here:

> I was naive enough to think that backing up data onto other hard
> drives within the same computer was safe.

Better than no backup at all, but not without risks.

With HDDs currently available for about US$50/TB I've become a big fan 
of removable portable drives.

I've collected quite a few, used in rotation with each containing the 
last set of files from the day before.

I use my secondary internal drive for incremental backups made with 
the backup utility included with Ubuntu, so I can restore any given 
file to any version over the last several months.

And then I further hedge my bets with both a NextCloud setup which 
backs up and versions my work files to my office server, and a second 
mirror repository on my Mac which is also backed up to an attached 
drive via Time Machine.

Given that all software has bugs, and some will eventually make mash 
of a backup, and that all hard drives will eventually fail, this 
multiply-redundant setup helps mitigate those risks, using HDDs I'd 
acquired over the years for various purposes so the redundancy has 
grown over time.

Of course manually managing these would be quite a time waster, so I 
wrote a pair of bash scripts, one for my Linux box and one for my Mac, 
which use rsync to automate the copying.  So now at the end of the day 
I just run one script on my Linux box, then a second on my Mac, and 
when they're done I have four local copies of everything (five for 
work files thanks to the always-updating NextCloud) and one removable 
drive updated to take home with the others for offsite protection.

Back in the '90s I lost a big chunk of critical data in a hard drive 
failure.  For me, taking a few minutes at the end of the day to run an 
automated redundant backup helps me sleep better.

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Re: Lock Screen command not locking the screen

2016-11-28 Thread Peter Bogdanoff

Yes, this is also my (original) question. Is there any answer???

Peter Bogdanoff

On Nov 28, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> So THAT is my problem!!! IS there any way to lock the screen to prevent card 
> changes from displaying? I use a method of encapsulating certain 
> functionality in the script of a particular card (my Database Setup card is a 
> perfect example). By simply going to the card all the variables and 
> connections are established, but I don't want the user to actually see me 
> going to that card, or any other card I use in this way. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 08:01 , J. Landman Gay  wrote:
>> 
>> If you are looking the screen and issuing a "go"  command, LC is behaving as 
>> expected. The screen is always unlocked on a card change.
>> 
>> To do things before the card is displayed, use a preopencard handler to set 
>> things up.
>> 
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On November 26, 2016 2:25:45 AM Peter Bogdanoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> I’m going to another card and I want the screen to lock while controls on 
>>> the this second card are being worked on: old controls deleted, new fields 
>>> and graphics created, an image loaded from a remote server and the like.
>>> 
>>> I set the lockScreen to true and then issue the commands to go to the other 
>>> card and do the work. However, I’m seeing the bits and pieces happening in 
>>> real time, not a clean show as I would like.
>>> 
>>> Am I missing something? Should I expect otherwise?
>>> 
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Re: iTunes Connect rejection

2016-11-28 Thread Andrew Bell

I needed to get the update pushed through so I hadn't gone back to test 
until now. Same error message when compiling another build in 8.1.2rc2 
as well as 9.0.0dp2 using Xcode 8.1. Building in 8.1.1 using Xcode 8 
doesn't get auto-flagged by Apple (within minutes) like the 8.1 builds 
are.


Here is a link to the compliled binary: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c1xiuet59jvwz8v/Indiana%20On%20Tap-LC8.1.2.2%20Xcode8.1.zip?dl=0


--Andrew Bell


On 2016-11-21 12:26, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
Hi Andrew,

Do you consistently get the same problem if you recompile with
8.1.2-rc-2?

If so, could you compile your app and send the compiled binary to us so
we can inspect it? The engine certainly doesn't use those calls (there
is no reference to them in the engine source), so it might well be a
false-positive on Apple's part (when statically checking the binary).

It *could* be that a name of one of the (public) symbols in the engine
is confusing their system.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: [OT] Hosed Xubuntu system

Thanks for the advice and comfort.

On 11/28/16 6:28 am, Kay C Lan wrote:

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson
wrote:

I am slowly recovering my stuff: estimated completion about 2 weeks . . .

Ouch. But surely a better Disk Utility Tool would help reduce that.
It's unlikely that the files are gone; especially if the computer was
working last night. GParted seems to be a basic Disk Utility program,
not a Disk Repair program. Here is a list of some that might help:

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-linux-rescue-tools-for-recovering-linux-windows-or-mac-machines/

Gparted says there is nothing wrong with the disks!

I am wondering about demounting them and having the Macintosh check
them, but not sure whether the

mac will recognise them.

I was naive enough to think that backing up data onto other hard drives
within the same computer was safe.

As above; it's more like that the catalog files and the 'structure'
that points to all the 1 and 0's has been mangled but the actual files
are still in their location and with a good Repair program can be
retrieved - saving you well over a weeks worth of time.

Um: testdisk brings back the file structure: the directories and a lot
of "0 kb" files

reflecting the files that have vanished.

I was unaware that there was malware for Linux :(

That has to be the quote of the Decade.

Richmond.

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Re: Serving Videos with LC/iRev

2016-11-28 Thread Richard Harrison

Hi Mark,

Well I was trying to talk in black-box terms here, but I can
see that isn’t sufficient information for you as inquiring
minds always want to know.  It really shouldn’t hurt if
I reveal the third party anyway.

I have an enhanced eBook with an embedded video in it.
I was able to publish it to Apple’s iTunes store in the EPub 3
format just fine, without having to resort to using
iBooks Author to create the book.  The plus side of
that is I don’t have an exclusive obligation to Apple
if I do it that way, and I can publish the book elsewhere.

So the next good place to publish the eBook would be
to Amazon.com .  Unfortunately, they want their books
to use the .mobi format.  That format does not allow
embedded content such as videos etc.  You have only
one way to share enhanced content and that’s by
giving out a URL link to one’s web content.  That
URL is a fixed link in the book once it’s published,
and will always go to the same place.

So yes, I could painfully decide not to publish to
Amazon.com  but I’d rather not have to not use them
as they are pretty big.  Now you can understand
my problem and my attempted solution.

Thank you for your input!

Rick


On Nov 27, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

Hi Rick,

That third party must have an API for it. If not, you need to change the
vendor. I can't be that e.g. Apple sells music, while everybody is able to
download the content once it has been bought by one person. Can you tell
the name of that third party?

Kind regards,

Mark Schonewille
http://economy-x-talk.com
https://www.facebook.com/marksch
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[Blog] What You've Been Doing with HTML5

2016-11-28 Thread Heather Laine

Dear list folks,

It's great to see some of you getting stuck in with the latest iteration of 
LiveCode HTML5:

http://livecode.com/some-exciting-html5-demos-for-livecode-9-dp-3/ 


Go take a look!

Regards,

Heather


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LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



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[ ANN ] Release 9.0.0 DP-3

2016-11-28 Thread panagiotis merakos

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.0 DP-3.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back up your
stacks before testing them.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.

Release Contents

LiveCode 9.0.0 DP-3 contains a fix to ensure that the "do as JavaScript"
feature for HTML5 works in LiveCode Indy and LiveCode Business.

A total of 6 bugs have been fixed since the last development preview
release (LiveCode 9.0.0 DP-2).

Many thanks to the community members who made improvements to the
documentation and the IDE since the previous developer preview release:

Bernd Niggemann
Bob Hall
Devin Asay
Sean Cole

The full release notes are available from:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_0_0_dp_3.pdf

Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93

Have fun!
The LiveCode Team
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Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-28 Thread Peter TB Brett




On 28/11/2016 16:19, Bob Sneidar wrote:

It was a joke Peter. Buggy? Licecode? Ticksperience??


Apparently I missed it.  Sorry!

Peter :-)

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Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

It was a joke Peter. Buggy? Licecode? Ticksperience??

Bob S


> On Nov 28, 2016, at 08:16 , Peter TB Brett  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 28/11/2016 16:00, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> I personally have founf the current version of Licecode to be too
>> buggy for my needs. You may have a different ticksperience. :-)
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Please can you let me know which bugs are causing you particular
> trouble?  I could take a look and see whether they're something we can
> get fixed sooner rather than later.
> 
> Peter
> 
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> LiveCode Technical Project Manager
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Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-28 Thread Peter TB Brett




On 28/11/2016 16:00, Bob Sneidar wrote:

I personally have founf the current version of Licecode to be too
buggy for my needs. You may have a different ticksperience. :-)


Hi Bob,

Please can you let me know which bugs are causing you particular
trouble?  I could take a look and see whether they're something we can
get fixed sooner rather than later.

 Peter

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Re: Lock Screen command not locking the screen

So THAT is my problem!!! IS there any way to lock the screen to prevent card 
changes from displaying? I use a method of encapsulating certain functionality 
in the script of a particular card (my Database Setup card is a perfect 
example). By simply going to the card all the variables and connections are 
established, but I don't want the user to actually see me going to that card, 
or any other card I use in this way. 

Bob S


> On Nov 26, 2016, at 08:01 , J. Landman Gay  wrote:
> 
> If you are looking the screen and issuing a "go"  command, LC is behaving as 
> expected. The screen is always unlocked on a card change.
> 
> To do things before the card is displayed, use a preopencard handler to set 
> things up.
> 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> 
> 
> 
> On November 26, 2016 2:25:45 AM Peter Bogdanoff  wrote:
> 
>> I’m going to another card and I want the screen to lock while controls on 
>> the this second card are being worked on: old controls deleted, new fields 
>> and graphics created, an image loaded from a remote server and the like.
>> 
>> I set the lockScreen to true and then issue the commands to go to the other 
>> card and do the work. However, I’m seeing the bits and pieces happening in 
>> real time, not a clean show as I would like.
>> 
>> Am I missing something? Should I expect otherwise?
>> 
>> Peter Bogdanoff
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Re: Lock Screen command not locking the screen

NVM Jacque recinded in what ammounts to a completely different thread in my 
email app becase of the way other people use the list.

Bob S


On Nov 28, 2016, at 08:07 , Bob Sneidar 
> wrote:

So THAT is my problem!!! IS there any way to lock the screen to prevent card 
changes from displaying? I use a method of encapsulating certain functionality 
in the script of a particular card (my Database Setup card is a perfect 
example). By simply going to the card all the variables and connections are 
established, but I don't want the user to actually see me going to that card, 
or any other card I use in this way.

Bob S

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Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

I personally have founf the current version of Licecode to be too buggy for my 
needs. You may have a different ticksperience. :-)

Bob S


On Nov 24, 2016, at 07:49 , Todd Fabacher 
> wrote:

Our thinking is it would have 5+ core functionalities that woul dbe shared
by most HTML5 apps.  I think this would be a great community project and
help people who may not be so familiar with Javascript and can stay focused
on LiceCode.

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Re: LibraryStack Message

No close quote

Bob S


On Nov 23, 2016, at 17:38 , Richard Gaskin 
> wrote:

> start using stack "HelloWorld.livecodescript #

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Re: Mac Pro Touch Bar

Bill Vlahos wrote:

> How can I program the new MacBook Pro Touch Bar?
>
> I’ll be getting my new MacBook Pro in a couple of days and I haven’t
> seen any discussion on the new touch bar.
>
> Does it show up as a display?

While it is functionally both a display and an input device, it's unique 
role would seem to make it difficult to address directly using existing 
APIs for either.

Apple provides new APIs for the Touch Bar, with HIGs and tech notes here:

Perhaps an LCB wrapper for those would make a good community project?

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