Re: WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

[Graham Samuel via use-livecode]

OK I was being dumb as I suspected. And I wasn't ready for irony, maybe because 
it's four in the morning here. Must go to bed.

Graham

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Jan 2017, at 03:10, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Graham, 
> I think he was referring to Nortan Anti Virus.
> Anyway, I totally feel your pain. I have decided to NOT sign my Windows app 
> and just see what happens. It sounds like signing hasn’t solved your problems.
> Good luck,
> Bill
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mark but sorry, too laconic for me (and Google). What's NAV and what 
>> kind of help can it offer potential downloaders? Probably a very dumb 
>> question.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On 20 Jan 2017, at 02:53, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 On 01/19/2017 10:36 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote:
 
 So it looks like I can’t get round this - has anyone any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> NAV has a well-deserved reputation.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Graham, 
I think he was referring to Nortan Anti Virus.
Anyway, I totally feel your pain. I have decided to NOT sign my Windows app and 
just see what happens. It sounds like signing hasn’t solved your problems.
Good luck,
Bill

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mark but sorry, too laconic for me (and Google). What's NAV and what 
> kind of help can it offer potential downloaders? Probably a very dumb 
> question.
> 
> Graham
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 20 Jan 2017, at 02:53, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 01/19/2017 10:36 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote:
>>> 
>>> So it looks like I can’t get round this - has anyone any suggestions?
>> 
>> NAV has a well-deserved reputation.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark Wieder
>> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

[Graham Samuel via use-livecode]

Thanks Mark but sorry, too laconic for me (and Google). What's NAV and what 
kind of help can it offer potential downloaders? Probably a very dumb question.

Graham

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Jan 2017, at 02:53, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 01/19/2017 10:36 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>> So it looks like I can’t get round this - has anyone any suggestions?
> 
> NAV has a well-deserved reputation.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 01/19/2017 10:36 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote:


So it looks like I can’t get round this - has anyone any suggestions?


NAV has a well-deserved reputation.

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Re : write to file at end

[Francis Nugent Dixon via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

I think that you are forgetting at least two parameters in the
open file command :

open flle ABC for update (existing file you want to READ and then WRITE to)
(I never used this form ...)
open file ABC for append  (existing fille you want to "ADD" to)
("just the job !")

I hope that this will solve your problem

Best Regards

-Francis

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Re: Write to file at end

[Jim Lambert via use-livecode]

Bob,

 'for UPDATE’  works as well for your case as long as you write ‘at END'


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Re: WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I may have mentioned that many reputable vendors and developers do NOT sign 
their apps just because of this very thing. I suppose one day ew will wake up 
and discover that an OS will not allow you to run an app unless it's signed. 
That will be a black day.

Bob S


On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:36 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

This whole process of publishing has surprised me by being such a pain. And I 
haven’t started on the Mac version yet.

TIA for any reassurance.

Graham

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Re: WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Dear Graham,

this is a known behavior of Symantec´s Norton Antivirus.

See
https://community.norton.com/en/forums/norton-security-thinks-my-inno-setup-files-are-threat
 

and
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/codeandweb2/wsreputation1_or_how_symantec_ruins_independent_developers_24/
 

and
http://www.ghacks.net/2012/06/25/how-to-bypass-symantecs-ws-reputation-1-system/
 



Regards,

Matthias


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> Am 19.01.2017 um 19:36 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> I’ve prepared and code-signed a Windows installer for my LiveCode app. When I 
> download it via Google Chrome, the browser tries to discard it, then Norton 
> tries to delete it. When I get over these humps (let’s hope other folks 
> downloading will be prepared to do this!), Norton reports that the installer 
> contains an “Insight Network Threat” named "WS.Reputation.1”. The installer 
> has been thoroughly virus checked etc, so this must be wrong. However it 
> looks like you can’t change Norton’s mind without making a submission about a 
> false positive (I’ve done that) and then wait for some users to endorse it. 
> If it’s that hard to install, then nobody will be downloading it…
> 
> So it looks like I can’t get round this - has anyone any suggestions?
> 
> I should say that after getting past all that, Windows 7 agrees that the 
> installer does come from a verified publisher, so at least the code signing 
> worked.
> 
> This whole process of publishing has surprised me by being such a pain. And I 
> haven’t started on the Mac version yet.
> 
> TIA for any reassurance.
> 
> Graham
> 
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Re: What has changed in MacOS 10.12 in handling code pages?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 1/17/17 11:24 PM, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote:

In LC 6.6.5 on OS X 10.11.6 I created a new stack, dragged a field
onto it (i.e. no font specified for the field) and then in the msg
box:

put the effective textFont of field 1
--the result is 'Lucidia Grande'

In LC 9.0.0 dp4 on the same machine if I do the same thing the result
is '(Text)'

If I go into the LC 9 Object Inspector to set the Font of the newly
created field there are a bunch of entries at the top, which you don't
get in 6.6.5, like:
(Default)
(System)
(Text)
(Styled Text)


These are special font names introduced recently, explained in the 
dictionary under "fontnames". Basically these assignments use the 
system-compatible font for the designated category.


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WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

[Graham Samuel via use-livecode]

I’ve prepared and code-signed a Windows installer for my LiveCode app. When I 
download it via Google Chrome, the browser tries to discard it, then Norton 
tries to delete it. When I get over these humps (let’s hope other folks 
downloading will be prepared to do this!), Norton reports that the installer 
contains an “Insight Network Threat” named "WS.Reputation.1”. The installer has 
been thoroughly virus checked etc, so this must be wrong. However it looks like 
you can’t change Norton’s mind without making a submission about a false 
positive (I’ve done that) and then wait for some users to endorse it. If it’s 
that hard to install, then nobody will be downloading it…

So it looks like I can’t get round this - has anyone any suggestions?

I should say that after getting past all that, Windows 7 agrees that the 
installer does come from a verified publisher, so at least the code signing 
worked.

This whole process of publishing has surprised me by being such a pain. And I 
haven’t started on the Mac version yet.

TIA for any reassurance.

Graham


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Re: Write to file at end

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Oh append ok. 

Bob S


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:03 , Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
> CraP! Never mind. Open file for UPDATE
> 
> I'm such a moron. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 


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Re: Write to file at end

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

CraP! Never mind. Open file for UPDATE

I'm such a moron. 

Bob S



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Re: Write to file at end

[Thierry Douez via use-livecode]

2017-01-19 18:53 GMT+01:00 Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:

> Hi all.
>
> Given code snippet:
>
> open file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" for write
>

​

open file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" for
​append



HTH

Thierry​



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Re: Write to file at end

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hmmm... 

I inserted 

read from file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" until EOF 

before the writes, then removed "at end" from the write commands. IT STILL 
overwrites the entire file! 

It looks like the open file command is wiping the file before any writes 
happen! Is this normal??

Bob S


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 09:53 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. 
> 
> Given code snippet:
> 
> open file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" for write
> write formatDate(the date, "sql date") && formatTime(the long time, "sql 
> time") & cr \
> to file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" at end
> write tContexts & cr to file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" at end
> close file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt"
> 
> Shouldn't this APPEND to the file? It's replacing the contents of the file 
> instead. If it's a bug I'll report it. I can always read until EOF to do the 
> same thing. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
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Write to file at end

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hi all. 

Given code snippet:

open file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" for write
write formatDate(the date, "sql date") && formatTime(the long time, "sql time") 
& cr \
to file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" at end
write tContexts & cr to file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt" at end
close file "Forms Generator 8 Crash Log.txt"

Shouldn't this APPEND to the file? It's replacing the contents of the file 
instead. If it's a bug I'll report it. I can always read until EOF to do the 
same thing. 

Bob S



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Re: Alternative to Caller

[Ali Lloyd via use-livecode]

The executionContexts is what you're looking for.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:29 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Whoops! Caller is not a property. I guess I don't know.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2017, at 08:23 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I know about the Caller property, which holds the name of the handler that
> called the current one. I notice however in the script debugger that it has
> a popup menu of every handler back to the beginning. What I need is a way
> to discern what that list is, and the line numbers of each script back to
> the beginning of the first call. THAT is what is needed in any error log.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Bob S
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Re: Alternative to Caller

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Found it! ExecutionContexts!

Bob S


On Jan 19, 2017, at 08:29 , Bob Sneidar 
mailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>> wrote:

Whoops! Caller is not a property. I guess I don't know.

Bob S


On Jan 19, 2017, at 08:23 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hi all.

I know about the Caller property, which holds the name of the handler that 
called the current one. I notice however in the script debugger that it has a 
popup menu of every handler back to the beginning. What I need is a way to 
discern what that list is, and the line numbers of each script back to the 
beginning of the first call. THAT is what is needed in any error log.

Any ideas?

Bob S


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Re: Alternative to Caller

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Whoops! Caller is not a property. I guess I don't know.

Bob S


On Jan 19, 2017, at 08:23 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hi all.

I know about the Caller property, which holds the name of the handler that 
called the current one. I notice however in the script debugger that it has a 
popup menu of every handler back to the beginning. What I need is a way to 
discern what that list is, and the line numbers of each script back to the 
beginning of the first call. THAT is what is needed in any error log.

Any ideas?

Bob S

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Alternative to Caller

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hi all. 

I know about the Caller property, which holds the name of the handler that 
called the current one. I notice however in the script debugger that it has a 
popup menu of every handler back to the beginning. What I need is a way to 
discern what that list is, and the line numbers of each script back to the 
beginning of the first call. THAT is what is needed in any error log. 

Any ideas? 

Bob S



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Re: Engine Performance across Versions

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

Performance times of a standalone created from each version would be
interesting as well.  And on each platform...


On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> Bob:
>
>> If you get around to it try one for Save As Standalone times.
>>
>
> Sounds like a good test of IDE tasks, thanks!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Curry K.
>
>
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Re: Engine Performance across Versions

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Bob:

If you get around to it try one for Save As Standalone times.


Sounds like a good test of IDE tasks, thanks!

Best wishes,

Curry K.


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Re: Engine Performance across Versions

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

If you get around to it try one for Save As Standalone times. If I manually 
configure included libraries, LC 8.1.2 kicks some royal bahinca over earlier 
versions.

Bob S


On Jan 19, 2017, at 07:46 , Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Howdy,

Whenever I have time between client work and addon updates, I will be 
publishing a series of test results and "Fight Night" videos comparing 
performance of different LC versions on tasks.

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Engine Performance across Versions

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Howdy,

Whenever I have time between client work and addon updates, I will be 
publishing a series of test results and "Fight Night" videos comparing 
performance of different LC versions on tasks.


My first test involved math and appending text to a variable, and 
LiveCode 6.7 was the winner! It just beat LC 5.5, but really stomped 
8.1.2 and 9 dp 4, more than 10 times as fast.


In case the video screen recorder impacts the exact ratio, I'll rerun 
and publish the results in non-video format later, and also follow 
up/drill down on the different tasks in future fights. The text append 
was the real speed issue here with 8 and 9, there was not as much 
difference in the math calculations.


Here's Fight Night #1:

https://youtu.be/6737_kCLOBU

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/


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Re: Exit without quitting

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Thanks for the reply all. I will have to create some kind of logging system to 
see where it is exiting. At least I don't have to refactor 2 years of coding. 

Bob S



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Re: AW: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

That was a very interesting bug, requiring a separate click to correctly 
display each menu! Fixed now, also I found an easy workaround for anyone 
using LC 6.7 - 8.1.2.


Best wishes,

Curry K.


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Re: Exit without quitting

[pink via use-livecode]

I have a program that uses exit to top quite a lot, I compiled it for
Windows, Mac, Linux and iOS.
I've never had the program quit out on me when it hits the command.



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