Re: Dragging widgets

2017-02-27 Thread hh via use-livecode
This is not a bug because a widget is not an ordinary control:
Nearly all user interaction has to be allowed and scripted.
I implemented a kind of "grab" in some of my LC8-widget examples.

You can for example also Not focus on a widget from LC Script (that's
why the browser widget is 'robust' against commands like "click"). 

To the current handling of elementary mouse messages by widgets/LCB
see for example here, in the LC Builder forum

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=93=24369=mousedown

I don't know what's updated since then because the widget format changed
again with LC 9, so I wait first for a stable release before going on.


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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

2017-02-27 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Thanks for the thorough reply Trevor. 

I left Sublime Text when it was "2" years ago…thinking it was an EOL'd tool but 
here you say "Sublime Text 3"

Oh… sweet, my Sublime Text 2 license works!

OK I'll try it..since Atom and Visual Studio still don't quite gel for my work 
flow… 


On 2/23/17, 4:33 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Trevor DeVore via use-livecode" 
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Overall I feel like Sublime Text reduces friction while I’m working. I feel
like I can work much faster.

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Re: Apple, Developer Certificates, Provisioning Profiles

2017-02-27 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Huh. I always thought CN meant Canonical Name. 

Bob S


> On Feb 26, 2017, at 18:21 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Required reading.
> 
> There's a lot to read here, and for once, the comments (also written by 
> AgileBits devs) are at least as informative as the original message.
> 
> https://blog.agilebits.com/2017/02/21/certificates-provisioning-profiles-and-expiration-dates-the-perfect-storm/
> 
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Re: Sublime Text - Trevors LivecodeLint - some questions

2017-02-27 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Matthias,

Did you ever get this figured out? If not then email me off-list and we can
troubleshoot. Right now the extension isn’t available on Package Control.
I’m waiting for the Sublime Linter folks to approve the package and make it
a part of their distribution. They seem to be backed up with new
submissions though.

-- 
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> I was wondering about how this code checking would work, so i installed
> SublimeText, installed the LiveCode Package, SublimeLinter and LC server
> community as described  at https://github.com/trevordevore/sublimelinter-
> contrib-livecodelint  contrib-livecodelint>
>
> I then tried to install the plugin SublimeLinter-contrib-livecodelint via
> Package Control, but i do not see the plugin in the list. So i downloaded
> the plugin from github, rename the folder from 
> SublimeLinter-contrib-livecodelint-master
> to SublimeLinter-contrib-livecodelint and moved it into the folder
> ~/Library/Application Support/Sublime Text 3/Packages/User
>
> I added the described settings to the linters section and set the Lint
> Mode to Background. But i do not get an error when for example using a non
> declared variable. What am i missing.
>
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
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compiling cruft?

2017-02-27 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
I'm starting to notice a pattern here.

It seems like the first time I merge and compile a version of my code, the
resultant stack compiles quickly, but on subsequent compiles, it slows down
and takes many minutes longer to compile.


To prepare a compile, I have to reload in version 7 (supposedly as of
8.1.4-rc1 I won't), and run a routine that saves the file with a new name
including "to_compile", and loads all of the other stacks as substacks, and
then exits.  I then compile with a current version.

I just don't see where the cruft could accumulate, though--there is a "save
as" with the new name before the others are loaded, and thus well before
the compile.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.3

2017-02-27 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I couldn’t see the update via “check for updates” in 8.1.2 on a Mac.
> Anyone else notice this? Works OK from the downloads site.
>

I've given up on taking check for updates seriously.

Things eventually show up, but sometimes a release or two later.



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OT: javascript graphics fun

2017-02-27 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
This animation: https://www.dwitter.net/d/739
remembers me this Jim Hurley's stack:
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/577/Kaleidoscope-Deluxe

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017
Mark Wieder wrote:

>
> https://www.dwitter.net/top
>
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.3

2017-02-27 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
I couldn’t see the update via “check for updates” in 8.1.2 on a Mac. Anyone 
else notice this? Works OK from the downloads site.

Graham


> On 21 Feb 2017, at 10:57, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List Members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.3 Stable. By
> "Stable", we mean that no reported regressions have been introduced in
> 8.1.3, compared to the previous Stable release.
> 
> LiveCode 8.1.3 contains 90 extra bug fixes and new features, compared to
> LiveCode 8.1.2.
> 
> *Getting the Release*
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
> the automatic updater.
> 
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Re: Dragging widgets

2017-02-27 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I found that messing around at work in my lunch hour on Linux 32-bit; 
just tried the same thing on Mac OS with the same results.


Richmond.

On 2/27/17 2:43 pm, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote:

Let’s hope it’s a bug. I have not tried this yet, but I am about to embark on a 
development that allows a lot of dragging of SVG widgets. I hope someone who 
knows replies soon. If it’s not a bug, my whole resizing strategy will have to 
revert to a library of images with different resolutions with the appropriate 
sizes picked out at launch  time. Yuk.

Graham


On 27 Feb 2017, at 13:36, Richmond via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I have a stack containing an image and an SVG widget:

both contain the script:

on mouseDown
  grab me
end mouseDown

this means that end-users in standalones are able to drag around the image, and 
when they
release their mouse button the image stays where they placed it.

This does NOT work with the widget.

Why?

Richmond.

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Re: Where did the cErrorsList go?

2017-02-27 Thread Thierry Douez via use-livecode
Hi Ben,

try this:

the scriptExecutionErrors


HTH,

Thierry


2017-02-27 17:11 GMT+01:00 Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:

> For years I've been accustomed to interpreting the error reported in a
> 'catch' statement using
>
> put line xx of the cErrorsList of card 1 of stack "revErrorDisplay"
>
>
> In 8.1.3, AFAICT, the stack "revErrorDisplay" has no such property.
>
> The dictionary still recommends this technique.
>
> Was there a flaw in the building process, or has there been a change (not
> yet reflected in the documentation)?
>
> TIA,
>
> Ben
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Re: Where did the cErrorsList go?

2017-02-27 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
I'm not sure if its the same thing, but you might try "put line xx of the
scriptexecutionerrors"

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> For years I've been accustomed to interpreting the error reported in a
> 'catch' statement using
>
> put line xx of the cErrorsList of card 1 of stack "revErrorDisplay"
>
>
> In 8.1.3, AFAICT, the stack "revErrorDisplay" has no such property.
>
> The dictionary still recommends this technique.
>
> Was there a flaw in the building process, or has there been a change (not
> yet reflected in the documentation)?
>
> TIA,
>
> Ben
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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

2017-02-27 Thread Simon Knight via use-livecode
Hi, it was the comment by Dr. Hawkins : "as well
as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps on a card (just a bitmap of
it won't do); livecode just doesn't seem to me doing towards such a
direction.

Sorry for causing confusion.




> On 27 Feb 2017, at 16:10, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand the last question, on PDF's
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’m curious how do the likes of Swift, C# store details of their GUI ?
>> 
>> As to display of PDF what is it you want to do that can’t be achieved
>> using the browser ?
>> 
>> best wishes
>> Simon
>> 
>> Simon Knight
>> s...@anvic.net
>> Telephone : 01427 325911
>> Mobile : 07963 077071
>> Skype : jtidsskids
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Feb 2017, at 21:06, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dr. Hawkins wrote:
>>> 
 More commonly, until and unless livecode can save such that such
 standard tools or comparable can be applied, multi-person development
 will remain a fantasy and/or novelty.
>>> 
>>> And yet here we are, using an IDE written in LiveCode by a team
>> comprised of dozens of company and community developers working together on
>> a single code base.
>>> 
>>> 
 I've come to accept that the next major rewrite of my software is
 going to have to be in something else (Swift?) so that I can add
 developers, as well as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps
 on a card (just a bitmap of it won't do); livecode just doesn't
 seem to me doing towards such a direction.
>>> 
>>> The Business Edition has already gone that direction:
>>> https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pdf-viewer/
>>> 
>>> Probably at least an order of magnitude cheaper to upgrade to Business
>> than to rewrite the whole thing in Swift from scratch.  And with LC you get
>> a cross-platform solution, while even if you did find a GUI framework for
>> Swift for Windows you'd likely be writing a lot of forked code for each
>> platform.
>>> 
>>> --
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Where did the cErrorsList go?

2017-02-27 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
For years I've been accustomed to interpreting the error reported in a 'catch' 
statement using


put line xx of the cErrorsList of card 1 of stack "revErrorDisplay"


In 8.1.3, AFAICT, the stack "revErrorDisplay" has no such property.

The dictionary still recommends this technique.

Was there a flaw in the building process, or has there been a change (not yet 
reflected in the documentation)?


TIA,

Ben

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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

2017-02-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I don't understand the last question, on PDF's

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I’m curious how do the likes of Swift, C# store details of their GUI ?
>
> As to display of PDF what is it you want to do that can’t be achieved
> using the browser ?
>
> best wishes
> Simon
>
> Simon Knight
> s...@anvic.net
> Telephone : 01427 325911
> Mobile : 07963 077071
> Skype : jtidsskids
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 26 Feb 2017, at 21:06, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> >
> > > More commonly, until and unless livecode can save such that such
> > > standard tools or comparable can be applied, multi-person development
> > > will remain a fantasy and/or novelty.
> >
> > And yet here we are, using an IDE written in LiveCode by a team
> comprised of dozens of company and community developers working together on
> a single code base.
> >
> >
> > > I've come to accept that the next major rewrite of my software is
> > > going to have to be in something else (Swift?) so that I can add
> > > developers, as well as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps
> > > on a card (just a bitmap of it won't do); livecode just doesn't
> > > seem to me doing towards such a direction.
> >
> > The Business Edition has already gone that direction:
> > https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pdf-viewer/
> >
> > Probably at least an order of magnitude cheaper to upgrade to Business
> than to rewrite the whole thing in Swift from scratch.  And with LC you get
> a cross-platform solution, while even if you did find a GUI framework for
> Swift for Windows you'd likely be writing a lot of forked code for each
> platform.
> >
> > --
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> > Fourth World Systems
> > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> > 
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Re: Dragging widgets

2017-02-27 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Let’s hope it’s a bug. I have not tried this yet, but I am about to embark on a 
development that allows a lot of dragging of SVG widgets. I hope someone who 
knows replies soon. If it’s not a bug, my whole resizing strategy will have to 
revert to a library of images with different resolutions with the appropriate 
sizes picked out at launch  time. Yuk.

Graham

> On 27 Feb 2017, at 13:36, Richmond via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a stack containing an image and an SVG widget:
> 
> both contain the script:
> 
> on mouseDown
>  grab me
> end mouseDown
> 
> this means that end-users in standalones are able to drag around the image, 
> and when they
> release their mouse button the image stays where they placed it.
> 
> This does NOT work with the widget.
> 
> Why?
> 
> Richmond.
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Dragging widgets

2017-02-27 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

I have a stack containing an image and an SVG widget:

both contain the script:

on mouseDown
  grab me
end mouseDown

this means that end-users in standalones are able to drag around the 
image, and when they

release their mouse button the image stays where they placed it.

This does NOT work with the widget.

Why?

Richmond.

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[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 72

2017-02-27 Thread Peter TB Brett via use-livecode

Hi all,

Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source
community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter!

Read issue #72 here: https://goo.gl/HBdY5z


This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been
going on in and around the open source project.  New issues will be
released weekly on Mondays.  We have a dedicated mailing list that will
deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any!

If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion
somewhere, an upcoming event) then please get in touch.

 Peter

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Re: SHA1 cracked .... What are the chances this will be addressed in LC?

2017-02-27 Thread Peter TB Brett via use-livecode

On 24/02/2017 18:47, axwald via use-livecode wrote:

few days ago I read about PHP incorporating a modern crypto lib now:

https://dev.to/paragonie/php-72-the-first-programming-language-to-add-modern-cryptography-to-its-standard-library


Not a specialist regarding this, but wouldn't it be possible to interface
such?

https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium


@Lagi: The first customer already called to ask if I'd use "this security
risk" - thanks "LibHash-Hmac" (Richard posted the URL) I could deny
plausibly :)
Even if I agree with you about the real risk, it would be very bad idea not
to update any commercial software now. It might even have juristic
consequences, knowingly using broken crypto?


If you're using SHA-1 to implement an HMAC, you should already be using 
the recommended formulation:


hmac := hash(key | hash(key | message))

Or, in LiveCode:

function HmacSha1(pKey, pData)
return sha1digest(pKey & sha1digest(pKey & pData))
end HmacSha1

If you are doing this, then the current attack on SHA-1 does not affect 
the security of your system at all [1].


Peter

[1] I am not a cryptographer but this is my understanding of the situation.

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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

2017-02-27 Thread Simon Knight via use-livecode
I’m curious how do the likes of Swift, C# store details of their GUI ?

As to display of PDF what is it you want to do that can’t be achieved using the 
browser ?

best wishes
Simon

Simon Knight
s...@anvic.net
Telephone : 01427 325911
Mobile : 07963 077071
Skype : jtidsskids





> On 26 Feb 2017, at 21:06, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> 
> > More commonly, until and unless livecode can save such that such
> > standard tools or comparable can be applied, multi-person development
> > will remain a fantasy and/or novelty.
> 
> And yet here we are, using an IDE written in LiveCode by a team comprised of 
> dozens of company and community developers working together on a single code 
> base.
> 
> 
> > I've come to accept that the next major rewrite of my software is
> > going to have to be in something else (Swift?) so that I can add
> > developers, as well as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps
> > on a card (just a bitmap of it won't do); livecode just doesn't
> > seem to me doing towards such a direction.
> 
> The Business Edition has already gone that direction:
> https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pdf-viewer/
> 
> Probably at least an order of magnitude cheaper to upgrade to Business than 
> to rewrite the whole thing in Swift from scratch.  And with LC you get a 
> cross-platform solution, while even if you did find a GUI framework for Swift 
> for Windows you'd likely be writing a lot of forked code for each platform.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World Systems
> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> 
> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

2017-02-27 Thread Simon Knight via use-livecode
Thanks for the decode - I did wonder why the forerunner of the CIA was being 
talked about ;-)

OSS - Office of Strategic Services

Simon

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> On 26 Feb 2017, at 13:40, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Abbreviations that come up in this thread:
> LC - livecode
> SE - script editor
> IDE - Integrated Development Environment
> OSS - open source software
> SOS - script-only stack
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, as someone who came to Livecode attracted by the hook that it could be
>> used by Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) I try and follow these threads but
>> please take care with the use of abbreviations / acronyms.  Some I’ve
>> worked out others I’ve no idea : OSS open source S?, SOS ??? or
>> generally  morse code dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot “Save Our
>> Souls”  however it doesn’t read well below ;-)
>> 
>> My concern with external editors is based on my use of the tRev editor in
>> the past, which while having some nice features often lost the edits I
>> made.  I have no idea how it communicated with the IDE.
>> 
>> I agree with your comments re GIT.  As a one man band it seems like over
>> kill in my situation.  So I am creating an AutoSave plugin that makes a
>> backup every few minutes if the scripts have been modified (it has no
>> knowledge of changes to the UI).  It also produces a simple log file that
>> describes the delta between backups.  I am happy to share if it is of any
>> interest.
>> 
>> best wishes
>> 
>> Skids
>> 
>> Simon Knight
>> s...@anvic.net
>> Telephone : 01427 325911
>> Mobile : 07963 077071
>> Skype : jtidsskids
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Feb 2017, at 01:05, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think SOS is the main future.  I think it gives us another
>> option.
>>> Long before someone learns that technique, they should have the
>> traditional
>>> method down, cold, and understand why they would use one or the other.
>> SOS
>>> definitely make working on the IDE easier, and they make complicated
>>> projects easier, but I wouldn't even think of teaching someone who isn't
>>> already a LC expert about doing it this way.
>>> 
>>> The one thing to remember about the SOS technique is that Git isn't the
>>> only option.  Git is hard core, and it is hard.  I still don't like it,
>> but
>>> I am trying to tolerate it.  If you're using any cloud syncing tool that
>>> can keep track of versions (Office365, Gsuite, and Dropbox come to mind),
>>> you have simple version control/rollbacks/archiving/etc.
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