Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Dan Brown via use-livecode
A bit OT but there's an interesting discussion here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14458648 on the merits of WebAssembly vs JavaScript for in browser applications. As WebAssembly matures it will be interesting to see what implications (if any) it has for livecode html5 i.e. will it ultimately

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
What I believe BR was referring to is that we can expose LC handlers to the local JS context of a browser widget thus enabling liveCode.* calls. What would be good, was to have functions (synchronous ones for the sake of complexity) exposed as well so that calling a liveCode.* function from JS on a

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 06/01/2017 04:59 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Why not check for CopySpecial() if the object is a widget before passing to the owner? It makes more sense that the library handler a widget exports is part of the message path. That way we can dispatch to the instance and the inst

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 1 Jun 2017, at 8:27 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Would export fooCopySpecial() as a function accessible from LCS where you can > do: > > fooCopySpecial(the long id of widget 1, ...) Why not check for CopySpecial() if the object is a widget before passing to the o

using 7.1.2 engine for CGI work

2017-06-01 Thread Chris via use-livecode
I need to move my Revolution CGI stuff to a modern server. I copied the engine from … /Applications/LiveCode Community 7.1.2.app/Contents/Tools/Runtime/Mac OS X/x86-32/Standalone.app/Contents/MacOS/Standalone-Community and placed it here with permissions set to 755 … AEs-Mac-mini:CGI-E

Re: Love this group

2017-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'll have what he's smoking! ;-) Bob S > On Jun 1, 2017, at 13:03 , Tom Glod via use-livecode > wrote: > > Just wanna say you guys are all awesomeI click on my mailing list > filter and find tons of useful nuggets all the time. Saves me so much time > in the long run. > > Appreciate eve

Love this group

2017-06-01 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Just wanna say you guys are all awesomeI click on my mailing list filter and find tons of useful nuggets all the time. Saves me so much time in the long run. Appreciate everyone here. Tom ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread hh via use-livecode
@Mark Waddingham: I was partially wrong. There is already more possible than I thought with HTML5 deployment when using "do as javascript". One can work around missing javascriptHandlers because there is "the result" available for evaluating in LC Script. I tried again and found a bug in the HTML5

Re: Graphics in groups

2017-06-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thankyou very much. Richmond. On 6/1/17 9:54 pm, hh via use-livecode wrote: Remove the parantheses. LC tries to handle them as containers. For example (btn "B2" of group "BUTTS") is a container, e.g. the content of a menu button or any other string you put into btn "B2" of group "BUTTS". This

Re: Flash Talks Still Wanted - 50 minute slots almost gone

2017-06-01 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I went ahead and applied for a 50 minute presentation. I figured it can't hurt to ask. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thinking ahead, when all talks that are going to happen are booked, if there > are some spaces left you could

Re: Graphics in groups

2017-06-01 Thread hh via use-livecode
Remove the parantheses. LC tries to handle them as containers. For example (btn "B2" of group "BUTTS") is a container, e.g. the content of a menu button or any other string you put into btn "B2" of group "BUTTS". This works: put the backGroundColor of btn "B2" of group "BUTTS" > Richmond wrote:

Re: Flash Talks Still Wanted - 50 minute slots almost gone

2017-06-01 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Thinking ahead, when all talks that are going to happen are booked, if there are some spaces left you could expand the talk to 14 minutes. Anyone asking to talk could say: “I can easily do it in 7 minutes”, “can do it in 7 but would cover more in 14”, “need 14 minutes, but could rush it in 7”.

Graphics in groups

2017-06-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Why, when I do this: putthebackgroundcolorof(grc "h1" ofgroup"JK5") do I get: Error description: Chunk: source is not a container Hint: [useful hint, by the way] ? Interestingly enough when I do this: putthebackGroundColorof(btn "B2" ofgroup"BUTTS") I get this: Error description: Chunk:

Re: Flash Talks Still Wanted - 50 minute slots almost gone

2017-06-01 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Heather, Would there be any interest in an explanation on how to put 3D Earth maps into a LiveCode stack? It would take more than 7 minutes, but the technique is pretty cool. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode > wrote: > > Dear List Folks, >

[ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-3

2017-06-01 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-3. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-3 contains 2 bug fixes

[OT] iOS Alert

2017-06-01 Thread Randy Hengst via use-livecode
Hi All, Several of my iOS apps are displaying this alert: “AppName” Needs to Be Updated. This app will not work with future versions of iOS. The developer of this app needs to update it to improve its compatibility. I don’t remember which version of LC I used to build these apps… is this a 32

Flash Talks Still Wanted - 50 minute slots almost gone

2017-06-01 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Dear List Folks, Our conference program is looking strong and filling up fast. I'm almost out of space to accept more 50 minutes talks (more will be announced shortly). However, I'm still looking for 7 minute flash talks. I know loads of you good folks have great stories to tell! Roll up roll u

Re: Param Naming - Object by Reference Best Practices

2017-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
OK Sold. I never really understood the value of using long id's until Richard's explanation, and an issue I was having as well with object resolution between different modules and a back script. Bob S > On May 31, 2017, at 17:18 , Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > >> I almost alway

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Mark W. wrote: > I've pondered 'invoke' as a new keyword - but I'm not sure how much I > like that, but it would 'fill the gap'. For 'foreign speakers' a synonym like "useHandler" may be easy to remember. Would fit into LC Script: -- start using useHandler "drawImage" of with parameter --

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Roland Huettmann via use-livecode
Yes, I agree. Thanks a lot. ) Roland On May 31, 2017 19:07, wrote: > A callback is not synchronous, his point was that it would be nice to > communicate synchronously between LC and JS, rather than use complex > callback chains. > > I agree with him, but I don't think there is a universal way to

Re: urgent iOS internet issue (url request timeout setting?)

2017-06-01 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Thanks Charles - yep that sounds exactly the problem. I guess I should have searched the bug database - it might have saved me some unnecessary panic. Anyway, tsNetReuseConnection false seems to work just fine for now. When I have some more time I'll delve into the tsNet commands a bit more and

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-01 12:34, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: LOL @ invoke! You need to rename Widgets to Spells. #widgetcraft Heh - I hadn't thought of that connotation :) Perhaps that means we have #widgetseers or #widgetmages too! FWIW, 'invoke' is the name of the LCB VM's opcode for, well, i

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
LOL @ invoke! You need to rename Widgets to Spells. #widgetcraft ~Roger On Jun 1, 2017 6:28 AM, "Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-05-31 23:13, hh via use-livecode wrote: > >> Call, send , dispatch, do script ... >> It is very impressive how th

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-01 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-05-31 23:13, hh via use-livecode wrote: Call, send , dispatch, do script ... It is very impressive how the core team can still have all that messaging in mind while developing LC Builder. The problem here is what syntax to use in LCS to 'call into a widget' - widget's need to be able t

Re: urgent iOS internet issue (url request timeout setting?)

2017-06-01 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Terry, I think this is the same issue as has been reported here that I am looking into: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19656 At this point in time, issuing "tsNetLibUrlReuseConnection false" is the best solution, as this will stop tsNet from trying to re-use an existing open