Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

Mark Wieder wrote: On 07/20/2017 12:17 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Okay, replace "DP" with "most recent build" No, you can't do that. If the team really wants us to test new features in DP releases (and I'm certainly on board with that) then we need DP releases. I thought

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

Ralph DiMola wrote: > I use a "stun" server to get the ata(sip client) ip behind NAT. There > are public stun servers or you can install an open source one on your > one server. Good reading, thanks. But there's that word again, "server". The forum user's request is for pure P2P communication

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

A bit OT but entertaining, apparently one can use an iPhone as a server: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6804650/ios-devices-as-web-server I see no point to this, but, you know, people just do things :) Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode >

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

Well put! I nominate you for the new Public Relations guy! Bob S > On Jul 20, 2017, at 15:52 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> >> Okay, replace "DP" with "most recent build" > > No, you can't do that. If the team really wants us to test new

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

On 07/20/2017 12:17 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Okay, replace "DP" with "most recent build" No, you can't do that. If the team really wants us to test new features in DP releases (and I'm certainly on board with that) then we need DP releases. The whole idea of a Release

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

On 07/20/2017 01:18 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I honestly don't know what the fuss is: Because RCs and DPs are different beasts. By the time you get to an RC1 release it's expected that barring any newly-introduced problems the next build will be the 'stable' release.

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

On 07/20/2017 12:23 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Err - last week... 9dp8? Previously there 7 others - a bit under one a month (on average) if my recollection serves me correctly (which it might not!). Note that I explictly excepted LC9 because it's dp all the way down. Other

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

LIKE! :-D On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If only I were sure that all our tooling would be happy with 'dv' - that > might make a good name for nightly builds. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 20 Jul 2017, at 21:18,

RE: Restrictions on mobile servers?

I use a "stun" server to get the ata(sip client) ip behind NAT. There are public stun servers or you can install an open source one on your one server. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

If only I were sure that all our tooling would be happy with 'dv' - that might make a good name for nightly builds. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jul 2017, at 21:18, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I honestly don't know what the fuss is: > > DP

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

On 7/20/17 1:44 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 7/20/17 11:59 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> On the desktop, most OSes at least provide some means of requiring >> explicit admin permission to allow an app to open a TCP port for >>

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

I honestly don't know what the fuss is: DP or RC, who cares, after all as long as they are numbered reasonably sequentially we know that they are leading up to a 'Full' release (which, after all, means the start of another SDLC). I'm working with 8.1.4 at the moment and having lots of fun

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

I'm pretty sure SIP servers just makes introductions to two clients running on devices and gets out of the way. A way to keep your IP out of it. Also they use UDP packets - MUCH less latency - and does error correction (reconstruction?) without re-requesting as HTTP based clients do. the 'stuff'

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

In fact there have been 54 DP releases since we went open source in April 2013 - which is pretty much 1 per month on average since. So, not rare at all - quite common, one might say. Mark. P.S. If someone wants to check my math - then please do. The necessary information is easily grokable

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

Err - last week... 9dp8? Previously there 7 others - a bit under one a month (on average) if my recollection serves me correctly (which it might not!). Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jul 2017, at 20:09, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

Mark Wieder wrote: > On 07/20/2017 11:41 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > >> ...the more people we can get using DP's (in particular), >> the higher quality they will be and the faster new versions >> will appear. > > ...so when was the last time you saw a dp release? > (of

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

Stephen Barncard wrote: > Richard: > > I've been working with with VOIP applications and there are some > systems that have free methods for finding each other. > > Check out the Linphone SIP service (and Linphone itself is pretty > cool) Thanks. Isn't Linphone client-server, as opposed to

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

On 07/20/2017 11:41 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: ...the more people we can get using DP's (in particular), the higher quality they will be and the faster new versions will appear. ...so when was the last time you saw a dp release? (of anything other than LC9, which is

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

On 07/20/2017 11:33 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Well that's fine; as you should be aware, all in-groups like to talk to each other in such a way as to exclude non-members so that they can feel vastly superior. I decry the discrimination against Finno-Ugric! -- Mark Wieder

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

Richard: I've been working with with VOIP applications and there are some systems that have free methods for finding each other. Check out the Linphone SIP service (and Linphone itself is pretty cool) Open Source of course. They use the new stuff in the Opera, Firefox and Chrome browsers using

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 7/20/17 11:59 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> On the desktop, most OSes at least provide some means of requiring >> explicit admin permission to allow an app to open a TCP port for >> listening. >> >> What restrictions are imposed by iOS and Android for

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

Bob Sneidar write: > I didn't DL the RC. I'm one of the lemmings that loiter at the top of > the cliff to see if any of the other lemmings are going to return. :-) Like everything else in life, the only constant in software is change, in both applications and the OSes they rely on. There is no

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

Well that's fine; as you should be aware, all in-groups like to talk to each other in such a way as to exclude non-members so that they can feel vastly superior. Richmond. On 7/20/17 9:26 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Commonly understood by all in the group. Not all mankind! :-)

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

Commonly understood by all in the group. Not all mankind! :-) Bob S > On Jul 20, 2017, at 10:22 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Fine: then let's all switch over to Latin. > > Richmond. ___

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

Ralph DiMola wrote: > Richard wrote: >> On the desktop, most OSes at least provide some means of requiring >> explicit admin permission to allow an app to open a TCP port for >> listening. >> >> What restrictions are imposed by iOS and Android for similar >> security? > > The only restriction I

Re: Restrictions on mobile servers?

On 7/20/17 11:59 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: On the desktop, most OSes at least provide some means of requiring explicit admin permission to allow an app to open a TCP port for listening. What restrictions are imposed by iOS and Android for similar security? On Android, the

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Jul 19, 2017, at 13:31 , Stephen Barncard wrote: >> >> Which means every network and independent film-maker is breaking the >> law... >> because I guarantee that they're not looking at the EULA when >> sending off their work for broadcast or theater.I see this every

RE: Restrictions on mobile servers?

The only restriction I know of is on iOS. iOS does not allow unencrypted http connections unless you tic the "Disable ATS" in the standalone settings. I know this applies to URLS using the browser control and "put/get url" in scripts but don't know if it also applies to sockets. If the mobile app

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

Fine: then let's all switch over to Latin. Richmond. On 7/20/17 5:57 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I too find it much more productive when communicating with a group to do so in a language common to all. :-) Bob S On Jul 19, 2017, at 04:28 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode

Re: AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives

Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > Keep in mind, that h.264 is not natively supported by Windows 10 (and > not by 8 I think). You need to install a h.264 filte Thanks, Tiemo. That's a serious bummer. It's 2017. Is there really no single codec available for Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, and Android which

Restrictions on mobile servers?

On the desktop, most OSes at least provide some means of requiring explicit admin permission to allow an app to open a TCP port for listening. What restrictions are imposed by iOS and Android for similar security? In the Android settings for LC's Standalone Builder, does the "Internet"

Re: Find some text characters

Using ";" as the itemdel - makes sense. I also realized both split and filter could used for this. None of these beat regex for brevity, though. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > of if char 3 to -1 of

Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

Hi, i am sorry for the confusion. I thought it was only for Excel library license owners. Good to know that it is open source now. Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > Am 20.07.2017 um 17:21 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode >

Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?

Remember the days when a web server and browser was a means to efficiently and reliably communicate basic information across the internet universally? What the hell happened?? Bob S > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:59 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

Thanks Mike . I didn't look in Open Source as I thought it was for people who had purchased the ExcelLIB product. DOH. Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/5-open-sources On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Except there is no option to download it anywhere I can see on the site. > > Bob S > > > > On Jul 19, 2017, at 13:18 , Matthias

Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

Except there is no option to download it anywhere I can see on the site. Bob S > On Jul 19, 2017, at 13:18 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > Zryip created a little intellisense plugin some years ago. > >

Re: Find some text characters

of if char 3 to -1 of tItem > Bob S > On Jul 17, 2017, at 14:59 , Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > wrote: > > If the number of chars in tItem = 8 then... ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

I didn't DL the RC. I'm one of the lemmings that loiter at the top of the cliff to see if any of the other lemmings are going to return. :-) Bob S > On Jul 19, 2017, at 09:44 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Why are we testing a new feature in a

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

I too find it much more productive when communicating with a group to do so in a language common to all. :-) Bob S > On Jul 19, 2017, at 04:28 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > I am sorry, but my French is not so good. Google translate gave me the

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

At this point I think common law would kick in, since they have been allowing the practice for well over 7 years now. Bob S > On Jul 19, 2017, at 13:31 , Stephen Barncard via use-livecode > wrote: > > Which means every network and independent film-maker is

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

Monkey Patching. I like that. Is that a reference to the Scopes Monkey trial? Just as an aside, I heard a brilliant professor once provide the most excellent challenge to the Monkeys on Typewriters illustration I have yet heard. He said that the illustration was not true to nature because the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

The only practical way to accomplish this is to work in a bakery. Bob S > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:53 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Of course, the ideal situation is that we always find a way for everybody to > have their cake *and* eat it :)

AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives

Keep in mind, that h.264 is not natively supported by Windows 10 (and not by 8 I think). You need to install a h.264 filter! Up to now, I didn't found a separate h.264 filter installer, which only installs h.264, only bundled in a codec package installer like the LAV filters. Tiemo

Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

Todd, this is what the community edition of LC was designed for, so that people like you and I can code this ourselves and submit it for inclusion into the whole package. That was the whole purpose of LC going to the trouble of becoming Open Source. The power is in your hands. Make it happen. This

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=29517=156125#p156125 On 7/19/17 10:39 pm, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: That is a rather good suggestion! Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url