Re: Points of Graphic Oval

Mark thanks for an adventure into the clean air of abstract thought…. "This can be seen from the fact that to compute cos/sin/tan (which are the mathematical primitives in some sense acting here) require a 'taylor' expansion which is an infinite polynomial sequence (with order tending to

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

> On 3 Aug 2017, at 7:36 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Of course, if you'd like to file a bug report / enhancement about being able > to do 'the "mycustompropname" of ... - then that is probably the 'future' > much better solution :) Er…

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

> > let´s say a card has a custom property name cMyProp. > > The variable tMyVar contains the word “cMyProp” > > How do i get the value of the custom property using the variable tMyVar? Using the “do” command, a quick test and this works OK: on mouseUp put "cMyProp"

Re: Hackintosh

Richmond Mathewson wrote: A EULA is NOT a legally binding agreement Your mind seems well made up; I would not try to convince you otherwise. For others here looking to publish and comply with EULAs: I do not claim to be licensed to give legal advice. My opinions are only that, formed

Re: Made with . . .

I'm not sure the learning of C and its relatively difficulty was the point here. Find me a book on C which teaches you how to create a window, show a button and have that button pop up a modal dialog which says 'hello world' on Android, HTML5, iOS, Linux, Mac and Windows then *that* would be

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > You can put the name of the property into a local var and use that (unless > I misunderstood the problem). > That's what I do > > > Of course, if you'd like to file a bug report /

Re: Mark in a kilt...

One with a real tartan and not just some cloth they got from Woolworths. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 12:53 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 8/2/17 5:56 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >> >> a real Scottish clan. > > > And what

Re: Mark in a kilt...

It certainly makes it easier to pee. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 12:29 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Were I Emperor kilts would be compulsory all over. > > Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: Made with . . .

Reading the comments on amazon for the 2nd book i read something about a computer science course of Harvard called CS50. A little search gave me this URL which let you take this course for free. http://cs50.tv/2016/fall/ The about section at that page says: Even if

Android device speed

Hello everyone, I just put my app on a galaxy tab E as a test. It is painfully slow, but not just in the LC portion of the app. The map, delivered through a browser widget, is also slow. So, I used the regular browser (chrome) at the webglearth website. That was slow too, although not as

Re: Made with . . .

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I will be forever grateful to the Livecode team that they have saved me > from having to learn C++. > I've lost track of how many languages I've learned and used over the last

Made with . . .

Hi Richmond, Some years ago, Alex Tweedly recommended this book to learn C. I bought this for US$ 30 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Illustrating-C-Ansi-Iso-Version/dp/0521468213 More recently, another developer recommended this 2015 book:

Re: Hackintosh

Sorry - release the source-code of things you write in LiveCode you distribute to others. Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Aug 2017, at 00:21, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode -

Re: Hackintosh

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I have just changed my Devawriter licensing system so that each > instantiation of it that I sell is tied to the MAC address of > an individual computer. Therefore there is nothing to

Re: Hackintosh

Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode - I missed it the first time around... We (LiveCode Ltd.) did not 'give away' LiveCode. We released it under a software license that has strings. The GPL requires (subject to interpretation by lawyers - and a court of law) you to also

Re: Hackintosh

Frankly I don't agree with "protection" that causes problems to the legitimate user. In all my years of writng bespoke software I ALWAYS placed a copy of the source on the CEO machine and told them (for no extra) . If I got run over by a bus then the company wouldn't be at a loss - there are many

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

File an enhancement - it's not something we have gotten round to doing yet but a 'flattened path' api was always on the cards to do but we hadn't gotten around to it yet. Warmest Regards, Mark. P.S. 'Flattening' is the term used to describe the process of turning paths into sequences of line

Re: Made with . . .

Well they do say 'out of the mouths of babes'. At the very least it helps us to reinforce the fact that 'we' have a purpose :) Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Aug 2017, at 23:33, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > That's a very

Re: Hackintosh

Indeed - and (if I remember correctly) - one purpose of devils advocate is to ensure the other side justifies its case 'sufficiently' (for some definition of sufficiently - usually a great deal harder when pedanticism kicks in!). I'm off to have another G! Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

You can put the name of the property into a local var and use that (unless I misunderstood the problem). Ali's suggestion is however the very pragmatic one - there are always going to be cases where var names might conflict with other things 'in context' and require disambiguation. (Although

Re: Made with . . .

That's a very good explanation, Thank you very much indeed. I had a "small problem" with a teenager in my programming classes who asked: "If Livecode is written using C++ why don't we just bypass Livecode completely?" Which prove that his English is up to a high standard :) I found a book

Re: Hackintosh

There are one or two people around here who probably don't know what a *devil's advocate* is . . . Off to polish my horns. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

I have already done what you describe in a HTML5 standalone for displaying progress along a Bezier curve, using LC Script only. http://hh.on-rev.com/html5/hhProgressHTML5_2-8.0.2X.html And it is done for all LC's SVG icons using the jquery-drawsvg plugin in a browser widget (incl. optional affine

Re: Hackintosh

On 8/3/17 12:03 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: > No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all. A similar view might ask whether the DevaWriter license terms need to be respected, or LiveCode Ltd.'s, or Stephen King's, or the protections

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

Haha… Fun of having one of those touch bars on top of the keyboard and sausage-fingers… ->Not a good combo... Mark wrote: I strongly suspect Malte's animationEngine does this 'correctly' for this case as it was designed with this kind of use case in mind. Good thing: Due to the Dual license

Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 167, Issue 7

Mark wrote: I strongly suspect Malte's animationEngine does this 'correctly' for this case as it was designed with this kind of use case in mind. Good thing: Due to the Dual license nature anyone who might want to have a peek ___ use-livecode mailing

Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Hi folks, my company is currently taking quotes on building an LC external to act as a driver for RethinkDB. I have already submitted a request with Monte & Ian over at Livecode, but would like to open it up to everyone that has the skill to build the externalI don't really even know if there

Re: Hackintosh

Richard just said what I was thinking but much much better! Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Aug 2017, at 23:03, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Richmond Mathewson wrote: > > > No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy

Re: Hackintosh

Heh - I'm apologise for being slightly glib - and definitely off-topic there. Although, I'd point out (because I'm a very pedantic person at times) - that there are always rules we can't change such as the rules of nature (e.g. Physics - although the rules evolve as we 'understand more' - or

Re: Hackintosh

Richmond Mathewson wrote: > No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all. A similar view might ask whether the DevaWriter license terms need to be respected, or LiveCode Ltd.'s, or Stephen King's, or the protections afforded any creator of an original work. Many of us here

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

A good reason to use consistent prefixes to distinguish custom props and variables perhaps. On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 at 20:56, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

RE: Hackintosh

Dear Mark, " At the end of the day, unless you believe in anarchy (which you might, I have no issue with that - particularly if you can explain to me how that works in practice ;)), some observance of rules is required - and there is a difference between discussing the rules (e.g. the meta level)

Re: "Cascading" Object-Behaviors

> On 3 Aug 2017, at 6:44 am, Brian Milby via use-livecode > wrote: > > So is the BOM causing the issue with detection of the URL being a script > only stack or is it in the function that actually reads in the file? > Trying to wrap my head around how the go stack

Re: Hackintosh

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > "a fuzzy line" > > Sounds a bit like the Emperor's USA/Mexico wall. > > Nah, it was Representative Lincoln that questioned where the line was, not Santa Anna . . . :) -- Dr. Richard E.

Re: "Cascading" Object-Behaviors

So is the BOM causing the issue with detection of the URL being a script only stack or is it in the function that actually reads in the file? Trying to wrap my head around how the go stack works (still looking at code). On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Brian Milby wrote: > I

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

Heh - sometimes it takes a relative tome of justification to arrive at a simple explanation! However the beauty of Bézier curves is that arcs are just a small subset of what they can represent 'well enough'. For moving along an arbitrary (Bézier - you can represent a straight line segment as

Re: Hackintosh

Whilst that may be true - a significant part of LiveCode's business comes from the US... As does our support for Apple devices. Of course, Apple probably don't care (why would they? Hackintoshes are not Macs). However, Apple did think it reasonable to outlaw anything other than Obj-C and JS

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

> Mark wrote: > So, at the level of the graphic object it is a true arc, at the level of > instructing > the graphics library it is a Bézier approximation but at the level of working > out what > pixels to render it is a polygon. Thanks for arriving from your previous post at this very clear

Re: Hackintosh

"a fuzzy line" Sounds a bit like the Emperor's USA/Mexico wall. Richmond. On 8/2/17 11:00 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware

Re: Mark in a kilt...

Yes, I did wonder at the black shirt: I tend to wear a white one in the summer. But the two of you did look absolutely smashing! Richmond. On 8/2/17 10:50 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Heh - I'll say one thing for kilts... in the blistering heat of Arizona (I think it peaked

Re: Hackintosh

No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all. But I do tend to agree that any discussion of anything that might rub Apple up the wrong way if it is to take place on this use-list should only be in relation to LiveCode. Oh, and, by the way: there are buckets of resources and

Re: merge() only evaluating first expression?

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If you evaluate the second expression in that merge in the context (i.e. > Same handler) of the call to merge does it throw an error? > Ahh, it was viciously subtle (and visibly taunting)

Re: Hackintosh

I have just started the riot: but, hey, you knew you could rely on me :) Kisses, Richmond. On 8/2/17 7:13 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could violate a copyright. Bob S On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:56 , Richard Gaskin via

Re: Hackintosh

Apple's EULA may not actually be legal or legally enforcable in a large number of territories where this Use-List is read. Just seen Tim Cook "sucking the kneecaps" of China's one-party state's leaders and blethering anent "adhering to the law" re VPNs. Nothing makes me despise anyone more

Re: Hackintosh

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could > violate a copyright. > > Under some legal systems, discussions about how to engage in a crime, and encouraging others to

Re: merge() only evaluating first expression?

If you evaluate the second expression in that merge in the context (i.e. Same handler) of the call to merge does it throw an error? If a compile or runtime error occurs in any [[ ... ]] bracketed part of the merge string, then it gets rendered literally and not the value of it (as it can't be

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > answer the tMyVar of this cd > This is an area that is awkward in live code. The use of unquoted literals for this is inconsistent with most of live code (but quoting would be

Re: Can't use double finger scroll on mac for grouped controls

Genius. Thank you :-) On 2 August 2017 at 01:35, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This is something you need to script for groups. Something like this: > > on rawKeyDown pKeyCode >if pKeyCode is 65308 then > get the scroll of me > add 10

Re: Mark in a kilt...

On 8/2/17 5:56 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: a real Scottish clan. And what would a "real" Scottish clan be, forbye? Personally I wear a green kilt in "Hunting McIntosh" (invented in 1952) because my father's family are originally Scandinavian and my maternal Grandfather's name

Re: Mark in a kilt...

Heh - I'll say one thing for kilts... in the blistering heat of Arizona (I think it peaked at 42 Celsius) - it was a lot more comfortable outside than shorts or trousers! (The black long sleeved shirt less so - but life's not perfect!) Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Aug

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

A general arc (which an oval is an example of) is represented in LiveCode like elsewhere as a maximum of four cubic Bézier curves. These Bézier curves are then flattened to polynomials relative to a notion of 'flatness' - which means that the you iterate (using the de Casteljeu method) until

Re: Mark in a kilt...

Would that be Emperor Trump's wall between the United States of America and the United States of Mexico (and Texas), or Emperor Hadrian's one between Newcastle and the Solway Firth, Emperor Antoninus' one between Glasgow and the Firth of Forth, or the one between command-line languages and

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

Bézier curves are a polynomial - usually quadratic (2nd degree) or cubic (3rd degree) but the model extends to arbitrary order. With four cubic Bézier curves (so 8 quadratic) you can make an exceptionally good approximation to an oval - but it is not exact. Indeed (anyone who might have a

merge() only evaluating first expression?

Before I file the bug report, I want to check that this is an error (or am I missing something I have the custom property blElQry with value SELECT kywd FROM [[dhtbl_dat]] WHERE kywd LIKE '[[the leadFdWc of srcRw]]%' ESCAPE '\' ORDER BY kywd However, the single quote appears to be blocking

Re: Hackintosh

Indeed - freedom of speech and all. However, I have to side with Richard here - this forum is about LiveCode and not anything else. Sure we have 'OT' discussions now and again but generally they either 'peter out' or are suggested that this is not the appropriate forum (the latter in this

Re: Made with . . .

Hah! I missed the IDE bit - 99.99% of the IDE is written in LCS (some widgets in LCB). Pretty much the only bits which aren't are done script introspection features (e.g. revAvailableHandlers), the core standalone building part (which fettles with executables on each platform) and the

Re: Made with . . .

Increasingly less - and in contrast the amount that could be done in LC instead of C++ continues to increase (far more slowly than I'd like - but hey, if wishes were horses...) Indeed, a lot of the 'heavy lifting' seen in the engine comes down to either the core abstractions which the LiveCode

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

Actually you don't see "sides" of a regular 360-gon because the engine uses "trunc()" differing from my "round()" used earlier in this thread. So the approximation using "round" may be better in case you are scaling such points lists. ___ use-livecode

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

Thanks Klaus Tried your suggestion already before posting, but that did not work. Therefore I thought i have to use value or so. But i just had a “little” error in my script. I should check my code twice before asking. Thanks again. Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

> BR wrote: >> HH wrote: >> A circle is, just like a Bezier curve, a mathematical model, for thinking, >> doing mathematics. Not realizable in our virtual world. >> What you can have and what you see are (more or less good) approximations >> to that model, here nothing more than simple

Re: Hackintosh

I also thought about creating a Hackintosh for my workplace to spent money. After i read many many instructions and forum posts at that time i decided to by a Mac. Why? Because i wanted to start working right away and did not want to spent to much time on building, fiddling and so on. And i

Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

Hi Matthias, > Am 02.08.2017 um 19:20 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > : > > Hi, > > let´s say a card has a custom property name cMyProp. > The variable tMyVar contains the word “cMyProp” > How do i get the value of the custom property using the variable

how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

Hi, let´s say a card has a custom property name cMyProp. The variable tMyVar contains the word “cMyProp” How do i get the value of the custom property using the variable tMyVar? Regards, Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌

Re: Hackintosh

Also of interest, MacWorld article (yes, MacWorld) tells users how to build a Hackintosh. Although the author whines a little about it being involving some work. http://www.macworld.com/article/3196994/macs/how-to-build-a-hackintosh.html Someday, I believe Apple will come around and offer

Re: Hackintosh

Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:56 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> But we probably don't want to have discussions of violating Apple's >> copyright as part of this community's permanent public archive. > > Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could > violate

Hackintosh

In the country where I live, the first step to buy an Apple Computer is to built a Hackintosh. After they fall in love with Mac OS X and their hackintosh crash and burn really hard, their next step is to buy the real thing... This happens everytime without fail. In the same way, I suspect that

Re: Parsing (scraping) OpenGraph Tags from html HEAD

2017-08-02 17:54 GMT+02:00 Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > Responding on top > > Jacque's method only gets us a list, not an array, so one ends up having > to write more code to parse the list anyway, your method is more efficient. > > "not

Re: Hackintosh

Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could violate a copyright. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:56 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > But we probably don't want to have discussions of violating Apple's copyright > as part

Re: Hackintosh

We have a great community, having earned a reputation for providing a safe, friendly environment for learning LiveCode. With that in mind, please remember that Apple's EULA for macOS requires that it be run only on "Apple-branded computers". Discussions of using VMs on Mac hosts is great,

Re: Parsing (scraping) OpenGraph Tags from html HEAD

Responding on top Jacque's method only gets us a list, not an array, so one ends up having to write more code to parse the list anyway, your method is more efficient. "not comfortable with RegEx" Ha,, right. but it worth the effort to keep the little grey cells green! I will have to study

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

WHOOPS! I mean none of the lines intersect. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:47 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > It's simple because all the angles are obtuse. > > Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

It's simple because all the angles are obtuse. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:44 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > But then, as the circle/oval got bigger one would see 360 "sides" but we > don't. So, how is it a "simple polygon"

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

HH wrote: A circle is, just like a Bezier curve, a mathematical model, for thinking, doing mathematics. Not realizable in our virtual world. What you can have and what you see are (more or less good) approximations to that model, here nothing more than simple polygons. But then,

Re: Mark in a kilt...

I couldn't say. I had no notion of such things back then. It was a high school band, but don't let that put you off. We imported everything from Scotland, even the drumsticks. The kilts and other atire were from a real Scottish clan. The instructors were top notch. I never saw it but I was told

Re: Mark in a kilt...

were they from north of the wall? On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I used to play marching drums in a Scottish bagpipe band. We were good > too. Won 1st place in the DC 4th of July parade once. We had excellent > instructors.

Re: Hackintosh

It's also great that enthusiasts have already tested much of what's out there. You can pick your components from this buyers guide for best results. https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/january/2017 ~Roger On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode <

Re: "Cascading" Object-Behaviors

I just tried it on Mac/Win and it works in LC9DP8 that way for me. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Use the following url: > >

Re: Hackintosh

In addition what Roger said. Hackintosh Rule #3: Buy only PC hardware components (if possible) which are supported by Apple native. Most problems can be avoided to use the wright components which are critical to build a good working Hackintosh. Buy a motherboard which has already Wifi/BT

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

The effective points of an oval (circle) are the 360 points of a regular polygon with 360 vertices (if it's closed). You could look at stack #2 of the Raspi-Collection, runs on Mac/Win/linux using LC 6/7/8/9: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=98716#p98716 (in LC 8/9 add a semicolon after

Re: Made with . . .

Hi Richmond, > Am 02.08.2017 um 13:43 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > : > > " remember that LC is made with LC, so everything in the IDE is a stack resp. > scripted and can be modified!" > recently claimed by someone elsewhere [Hi, Klaus :) ] hi

Made with . . .

" remember that LC is made with LC, so everything in the IDE is a stack resp. scripted and can be modified!" recently claimed by someone elsewhere [Hi, Klaus :) ] BUT: it that really true? Why do I have a funny feeling that a lot of the "heavy lifting" is done with C++ ? Richmond.

Re: OT: Hackintosh

Hackintoshers Rule #1: "If it ain't broke, don't update it!" Hackintoshers Rule #2: "Carbon Copy Clone it FIRST!" Realizing that it's not real, not "of Apple", and not updating frequently is the first step toward Hacky-happiness. Always wait until the forums are reporting update success

Re: Parsing (scraping) OpenGraph Tags from html HEAD

2017-08-02 6:45 GMT+02:00 Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami: ​Hi Brahmanathaswami, ​ Thanks Thierry > > though I'm yet sure when using regEx this is better than using Jacque's > method > ​That's 2 different ways.. but with the regex one, you have the exact key and value of each tags, nothing more to