Re: OT: ...and everybody hates Perl...

2017-10-31 Thread Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode
And nobody's heard of livecode. :-( On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 04:26, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > https://boingboing.net/2017/10/31/perl-is-the-most-hated-program.html > https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/10/31/disliked-programming-languages/?cb=1 > > -- >

Why is everything in the IDE so tiny?

2017-10-31 Thread AcidJazz via use-livecode
I used Livecode a lot about 6 years ago, and have recently started playing around again. I know a lot of features have been added under the hood, but the IDE is really disappointing. I'm using a *much* larger screen (34" diameter), and find that virtually everything in the IDE, but especially

OT: ...and everybody hates Perl...

2017-10-31 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
https://boingboing.net/2017/10/31/perl-is-the-most-hated-program.html https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/10/31/disliked-programming-languages/?cb=1 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: Remote Debugger Frustrations

2017-10-31 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 1 Nov 2017, at 1:45 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Once you hit a breakpoint you should be able to change breakpoints in the >> open debugger. > > This I didn't know, I wasn't able to do that. To verify: I have to be stopped > at a

Re: Remote Debugger Frustrations

2017-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/31/17 4:14 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Once you hit a breakpoint you should be able to change breakpoints in the open debugger. This I didn't know, I wasn't able to do that. To verify: I have to be stopped at a breakpoint first before changing or adding one? I didn't do

Re: Strange permissions issues calling 'shell' in Windows

2017-10-31 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Oct 2017, at 9:40 pm, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode > wrote: > > Is there some way that calling 'shell' enters a context with less permission > than the app which calls it? And is there something I can do about this? LiveCode’s shell function on

Re: Remote Debugger Frustrations

2017-10-31 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Oct 2017, at 9:15 pm, Peter Reid via use-livecode > wrote: > > How are people getting on with the remote debugger facility? I'm finding it > very useful but also frustrating for the following reasons: > > 1. It's SLOW. I'm running LC 9 on an iMac with a

Re: Go card "xyz"

2017-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
No, and it can't work that way because as you have foreseen, that would wreak havoc on the message hierarchy. Some messages, a very few get processed as a high priority to resolve some issue they would have had if they went through the regular hierarchy (someone correct me if I am wrong) but

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
This is called a Watch Folder approach and any cloud based system that uses it (nextcloud does sort of, icloud does as well) will work the same way. Pretty slick. Bob S > On Oct 31, 2017, at 11:43 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 10/31/17

Re: Go card "xyz"

2017-10-31 Thread Pyyhtiä Christer via use-livecode
Thank you for a good set of answers! Now, here is the question asked, the heck I could not express it correctly the first time: "When in a script you issue a command go card "xyz" does the next command line of the script get into execution before the "go" has been completed? Is it

Re: Go card "xyz"

2017-10-31 Thread dunbarx via use-livecode
"When you go to another card, lots of things happen before and after the go... What Bob said. I assumed you knew that lots of messages are generated in the case you described, all the comings and goings, and were only asking about the order of events between the two lines of code in the initial

Re: Go card "xyz"

2017-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > The best way to tell what is going on is to turn on message watching Agreed, and if you find LC's Message Watcher as unwieldy as I do you may enjoy this more flexible, tailorable tool that produces more readable and useful logs of messages during execution:

Re: Remote Debugger Frustrations

2017-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/31/17 5:15 AM, Peter Reid via use-livecode wrote: 3. Often it steps through the script as it was just before the latest change, i.e. it doesn't take into account the latest script edits. 4. It can be difficult to change break points during remote debugging. You need to

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/31/17 11:57 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: no I'm referring to the usernames on the machine. I'm using google drive (backup and sync and file stream). I use dropbox for app data storage and transfer. Here is my setup: I created a folder in Dropbox named "Application Support".

Re: Go card "xyz"

2017-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
When you go to another card, lots of things happen before and after the go. By way of example, Closecard gets sent to the curent card, but before that close field gets sent to any field that you are in that has been edited, etc. Before the card opens, it gets a preOpenCard. So don't think that

Re: I Hate Full Screen!

2017-10-31 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
And I’m guessing that you do want to allow the stack to be manually resized (since turning that off will hide the green button). On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 12:08 PM Roger Guay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Well, that helps but I still hate Full Screen! > > > > > On Oct

Re: I Hate Full Screen!

2017-10-31 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Well, that helps but I still hate Full Screen! > On Oct 31, 2017, at 7:45 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > If you option-click the zoom on a Mac, it uses the old zoom where the menus > are still visible. > > Bob S > > >> On Oct 30, 2017, at

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
no I'm referring to the usernames on the machine. I'm using google drive (backup and sync and file stream). I use dropbox for app data storage and transfer. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 10/30/2017 07:55 PM, Mike

Re: Strange permissions issues calling 'shell' in Windows

2017-10-31 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
nvm my response, my earlier message poofed due to size. *sigh* here goes again... one thing you might try is to look at the properties for the scheduled job. You obviously have it set to "run whether user is logged in or not" but i'm wondering if "do not store password" box is checked. If it is,

Re: Strange permissions issues calling 'shell' in Windows

2017-10-31 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
i'm on 10, no clue what earlier versions would look like. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Windows 10? > > Bob S > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list >

Re: Strange permissions issues calling 'shell' in Windows

2017-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
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Re: Strange permissions issues calling 'shell' in Windows

2017-10-31 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
Hi Bob, Thanks for taking the trouble to consider this. The first thing that comes to my mind is, where are you putting the log file? If you are using a specialfolderpath that only has a context when logged in, then that might be an issue. It isn't that, the file is being created, the

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-31 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/30/2017 07:55 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: So what do you have for your paths? Are your usernames the same? For me, I run into the issue because my usernames aren't the same on every box, so the absolute path varies. Are you referring to the *dropbox* usernames being

Re: Strange permissions issues calling 'shell' in Windows

2017-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The first thing that comes to my mind is, where are you putting the log file? If you are using a specialfolderpath that only has a context when logged in, then that might be an issue. As far as the firewall goes, unless you or your IT team has intentionally blocked RPC traffic, it should have

Re: I Hate Full Screen!

2017-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If you option-click the zoom on a Mac, it uses the old zoom where the menus are still visible. Bob S > On Oct 30, 2017, at 18:03 , Brian Milby via use-livecode > wrote: > > I figured out how to disable full screen and replace it with the old zoom, > but that

Re: Go card "xyz"

2017-10-31 Thread dunbarx via use-livecode
If you have a button on a stack with: on mouseUp go stack "otherStack" answer "XYZ" end mouseUp and in the stack script of that other stack: on resumeStack answer "ABC" end resumeStack The "ABC" appears before the "XYZ". Is that what you meant? Craig Newman -- Sent from:

Go card "xyz"

2017-10-31 Thread Pyyhtiä Christer via use-livecode
When in a script you issue a command go card "xyz" does the next command line of the script get into execution before the "go" has been completed? Is it comparable to the "move" command, where this is true, with the additional statement "without waiting"? Is it possible to find a

Strange permissions issues calling 'shell' in Windows

2017-10-31 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
I have an app in LC, which normally runs as a nightly scheduled task on a VM in the client's network. It's been having memory problems, and to help diagnose this I wanted to track memory usage through the job and over time (it runs every night, takes about 40 minutes crunching lots of data,

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Hmm. I wonder why I've run into trouble with this. Now I don't remember. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:19 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have different user names on each machine too. Just set the appropriate > path in the LC prefs on each machine.

Remote Debugger Frustrations

2017-10-31 Thread Peter Reid via use-livecode
How are people getting on with the remote debugger facility? I'm finding it very useful but also frustrating for the following reasons: 1. It's SLOW. I'm running LC 9 on an iMac with a 4GHz quad i7 processor and 24GB RAM connected by USB to an Amazon Fire 7 tablet, yet each step through the

Re: The Shrinking size of animated gif

2017-10-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I'll "have a bash at this" tonight: currently in my lunch break. HOWEVER . . . I ALWAYS decompose an animated GIF into constituent frames (which I then export on PNG format) using GIMP . . . OK, it's long and tedious, but at least I have a considerable amount of control over the process.