Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Aha. Clarity. I'd wondered if properties might be involved but hadn't 
considered functions. Examples in the dictionary would be great.


On 4/2/18 4:03 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote:

Probably there should be an example that illustrates the use of the into
clause in that way!

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:00 PM Ali Lloyd  wrote:


Yes, or the return value of a function

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:39 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Would that be for properties?  Save the step of putting it into a variable
first?

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:29 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:



I found this:

***
Additionally the into clause has been added to all array set set
operations allowing commands such as:

intersect tLeft with tRight into tResult

The operation of the commands is the same as the non-into form except
that tLeft does not have to be a variable, and the result of the
operation is placed into tResult rather than mutating tLeft.
***

So when is an array not a variable?

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Re: Android Native Button

2018-04-02 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Looking at the code for the android field, it is probably a bug. In that
code the type is optional pointer and a check is done that a pointer was
returned. That check is not done for the button. Are you sure the font
being specified is valid?

I have not done anything android, so this is just a quick read of the LCB
code.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:14 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
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> I'm receiving the error below. The button does render. I can't change the
> textsize? Have I missed something or should I submit a QCC bug report?
>
> Thanks
>
> occurred on line:0
> 0,Value is not of correct type for assignment to variable - expected
> type for
> assigning to a variable tTypefacePtr in
> com.livecode.widget.native.android.button.SetTypeface
>
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Android Native Button

2018-04-02 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I'm receiving the error below. The button does render. I can't change the 
textsize? Have I missed something or should I submit a QCC bug report? 

Thanks

occurred on line:0
0,Value is not of correct type for assignment to variable - expected 
type for 
assigning to a variable tTypefacePtr in 
com.livecode.widget.native.android.button.SetTypeface


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Re: Installation failed

2018-04-02 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Right. That is because the Mac drive is accessed over a network drive in
that scenario. The Windows installer won’t work on a network drive.

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On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:46 PM Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Also, if you’re using something like Windows/Parallels on a Mac, you have
> to do the whole operation completely in Windows.
>
> Peter
>
> > On Apr 2, 2018, at 7:04 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you are trying to install on Windows when the installer is
> on a
> > network drive. Try copying the installer to the Windows machine.
> >
> > —
> > Trevor DeVore
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:54 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Livecode Installer // Installation failed
> >> The installation was not successful
> >>
> >> Could not launch Installer Slave.
> >>
> >> Sound familiar to anyone? I cannot install LC 8.1.9 from a freshly
> >> downloaded copy in Windows 7 64 bit.
> >>
> >> Bob S
> >>
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Re: Installation failed

2018-04-02 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Also, if you’re using something like Windows/Parallels on a Mac, you have to do 
the whole operation completely in Windows.

Peter

> On Apr 2, 2018, at 7:04 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like you are trying to install on Windows when the installer is on a
> network drive. Try copying the installer to the Windows machine.
> 
> —
> Trevor DeVore
> 
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:54 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Livecode Installer // Installation failed
>> The installation was not successful
>> 
>> Could not launch Installer Slave.
>> 
>> Sound familiar to anyone? I cannot install LC 8.1.9 from a freshly
>> downloaded copy in Windows 7 64 bit.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
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Re: Installation failed

2018-04-02 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Sounds like you are trying to install on Windows when the installer is on a
network drive. Try copying the installer to the Windows machine.

—
Trevor DeVore

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:54 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Livecode Installer // Installation failed
> The installation was not successful
>
> Could not launch Installer Slave.
>
> Sound familiar to anyone? I cannot install LC 8.1.9 from a freshly
> downloaded copy in Windows 7 64 bit.
>
> Bob S
>
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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode

> 2/2018 12:59 PM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote:
>> ...variables being promoted to arrays and multidimensional dictionaries...

> Ooo... multidimensional dictionaries are *so* Douglas Adams...
> Mark Wieder


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Re: SoCal LC Meetup Thurs-Special Guest!

2018-04-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
When I spoke with Veronica, the restaurant manager, this morning I asked 
her about that.  There are still some details being worked out with the 
restaurant's new owners, so while they're still waiting for that license 
she suggested ordering one of their excellent milkshakes instead. :)  I 
have to say, having had one before, I can confirm they're better than 
beer. My favorite is the Cookies and Cream, but they're all pretty darn 
good.


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Bob Sneidar wrote:


Can we drink beer yet? :-)

Bob S



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This coming Thursday, April 5, is our next SoCal LC User Group meetup, with a 
special guest: Phil Davis of PDS Labs will be coming down from Portland, OR to 
join Paul Looney in discussing a socket server implementation for networked 
business applications.

Phil's been developing in LiveCode since before v1.0, and his experience 
crafting the server for Paul Looney's business system will make for a lively 
discussion, especially interesting for members exploring client-server 
applications and custom protocols.

Meeting details here:
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=50=30761

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Re: Value & parentheses when doing math

2018-04-02 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
the 2nd one is the one most readable to me so thats the one i would use

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
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> Knapp Martin wrote:
> > I have a tab delimited list where item 4 is a number and I'm adding
> > things up. What is considered best practice when doing this?
> >
> > add item 4 of line x of tList to tRunningTotal
> > or
> > add (item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal
> > or
> > add value(item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal
> >
> > Marty
>
> IMO whatever is the easiest to write and read that gets the job done is
> the best option.
>
> The first example above seems simplest to me.
>
> The second one isn't bad, but the third one should be avoided unless you
> have something in the data that requires the overhead of adding a call to
> the value function.
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Re: Value & parentheses when doing math

2018-04-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Knapp Martin wrote:
> I have a tab delimited list where item 4 is a number and I'm adding
> things up. What is considered best practice when doing this?
>
> add item 4 of line x of tList to tRunningTotal
> or
> add (item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal
> or
> add value(item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal
>
> Marty

IMO whatever is the easiest to write and read that gets the job done is 
the best option.


The first example above seems simplest to me.

The second one isn't bad, but the third one should be avoided unless you 
have something in the data that requires the overhead of adding a call 
to the value function.


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Re: Value & parentheses when doing math

2018-04-02 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The second one is more readable. The third is unnecessary. The first works just 
fine. It just depends on how readable you want to make your code for others. I 
always take the time to put values into their own variables so I can point at 
them in the debugger and see their current values in the stepper. So:

put item 4 of line x of tList into tValue
add tValue to tRunningTotal

seems to me to be more readable, at the expense of a little extra typing. 

Bob S


> On Apr 2, 2018, at 14:48 , Knapp Martin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a tab delimited list where item 4 is a number and I'm adding things 
> up. What is considered best practice when doing this?
> 
> add item 4 of line x of tList to tRunningTotal
> or
> add (item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal
> or
> add value(item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal
> 
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Installation failed

2018-04-02 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Livecode Installer // Installation failed
The installation was not successful

Could not launch Installer Slave. 

Sound familiar to anyone? I cannot install LC 8.1.9 from a freshly downloaded 
copy in Windows 7 64 bit. 

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Value & parentheses when doing math

2018-04-02 Thread Knapp Martin via use-livecode
I have a tab delimited list where item 4 is a number and I'm adding things up. 
What is considered best practice when doing this?

add item 4 of line x of tList to tRunningTotal
or
add (item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal
or
add value(item 4 of line x of tList) to tRunningTotal

Marty
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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
Probably there should be an example that illustrates the use of the into
clause in that way!

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:00 PM Ali Lloyd  wrote:

> Yes, or the return value of a function
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:39 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Would that be for properties?  Save the step of putting it into a variable
>> first?
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:29 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I found this:
>> >
>> > ***
>> > Additionally the into clause has been added to all array set set
>> > operations allowing commands such as:
>> >
>> >intersect tLeft with tRight into tResult
>> >
>> > The operation of the commands is the same as the non-into form except
>> > that tLeft does not have to be a variable, and the result of the
>> > operation is placed into tResult rather than mutating tLeft.
>> > ***
>> >
>> > So when is an array not a variable?
>> >
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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
Yes, or the return value of a function

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:39 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Would that be for properties?  Save the step of putting it into a variable
> first?
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:29 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I found this:
> >
> > ***
> > Additionally the into clause has been added to all array set set
> > operations allowing commands such as:
> >
> >intersect tLeft with tRight into tResult
> >
> > The operation of the commands is the same as the non-into form except
> > that tLeft does not have to be a variable, and the result of the
> > operation is placed into tResult rather than mutating tLeft.
> > ***
> >
> > So when is an array not a variable?
> >
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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Would that be for properties?  Save the step of putting it into a variable
first?

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:29 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> I found this:
>
> ***
> Additionally the into clause has been added to all array set set
> operations allowing commands such as:
>
>intersect tLeft with tRight into tResult
>
> The operation of the commands is the same as the non-into form except
> that tLeft does not have to be a variable, and the result of the
> operation is placed into tResult rather than mutating tLeft.
> ***
>
> So when is an array not a variable?
>
> --
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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
First of all, neither has a Gazebo in the back yard...

Bob S


> On Apr 2, 2018, at 13:20 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> So when is an array not a variable?
> 
> Why is a raven like a writing-desk?
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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 04/02/2018 12:59 PM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote:


I recently was attempting to explain, to a savvy younger programmer new to LC, 
the concepts of variables being promoted to arrays and multidimensional 
dictionaries. She gave me the “crazy old man” look.
.Jerry


Ooo... multidimensional dictionaries are *so* Douglas Adams...

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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 04/02/2018 12:28 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:


So when is an array not a variable?



Why is a raven like a writing-desk?

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Re: SoCal LC Meetup Thurs-Special Guest!

2018-04-02 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Can we drink beer yet? :-)

Bob S


> On Apr 2, 2018, at 12:04 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This coming Thursday, April 5, is our next SoCal LC User Group meetup, with a 
> special guest: Phil Davis of PDS Labs will be coming down from Portland, OR 
> to join Paul Looney in discussing a socket server implementation for 
> networked business applications.
> 
> Phil's been developing in LiveCode since before v1.0, and his experience 
> crafting the server for Paul Looney's business system will make for a lively 
> discussion, especially interesting for members exploring client-server 
> applications and custom protocols.
> 
> Meeting details here:
> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=50=30761
> 
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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
On Apr 2, 2018, at 12:28 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> So when is an array not a variable?

I recently was attempting to explain, to a savvy younger programmer new to LC, 
the concepts of variables being promoted to arrays and multidimensional 
dictionaries. She gave me the “crazy old man” look.
.Jerry


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Re: Guessing game

2018-04-02 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

In addition to this:



I was just reading the release notes for 9.0rc1 and came across this entry:

Additional forms of create command
Create in now works correctly
You can now create in as well as in

Any guesses?


I found this:

***
Additionally the into clause has been added to all array set set 
operations allowing commands such as:


  intersect tLeft with tRight into tResult

The operation of the commands is the same as the non-into form except 
that tLeft does not have to be a variable, and the result of the 
operation is placed into tResult rather than mutating tLeft.

***

So when is an array not a variable?

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SoCal LC Meetup Thurs-Special Guest!

2018-04-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
This coming Thursday, April 5, is our next SoCal LC User Group meetup, 
with a special guest: Phil Davis of PDS Labs will be coming down from 
Portland, OR to join Paul Looney in discussing a socket server 
implementation for networked business applications.


Phil's been developing in LiveCode since before v1.0, and his experience 
crafting the server for Paul Looney's business system will make for a 
lively discussion, especially interesting for members exploring 
client-server applications and custom protocols.


Meeting details here:
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=50=30761

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Re: Multiple Windows

2018-04-02 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I do the same thing. There is no downside to using substacks or other stacks, 
but you can open a stack in a current window. 

Bob S


> On Mar 31, 2018, at 08:25 , dunbarx via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyway, I have never needed such a feature, but certainly see that others
> might. I often open substacks (or other stacks) on screen, generally for a
> particular purpose ancillary to the working stack, and close them when done.
> They are in that case just a high-powered dialog box, used basically in the
> same way.


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Re: variable xref

2018-04-02 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
When Apple went from Carbon to Cocoa, the offered their developers no such 
migration utility (to my knowledge at least). What they DID do is inform people 
well in advance of depricating Carbon that the time was coming where adherence 
to Cocoa would be mandatory, and they offered frameworks and programming 
guidelines, saying, "Do this this way from now on". There was plenty of time to 
make the updates. Those who didn't found their software would not run. 

RunRev has essentially done things the same way. There is usually a lot of 
discussion and plenty of time and warning before they deprecate anything, and 
they are very loathe to do it. They almost always opt for backwards 
compaibility. 

Bob S

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 20:01 , Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whenever you deprecate code you may be destroying
> someone’s life’s coding work.  There should always be
> at least a rock solid migration utility offered that will
> make any such deprecations completely smooth,
> and painless for anyone who has to make the changes.
> 
> Just my 2 cents for the day. ;-)
> 
> Rick

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Re: Blurring field contents

2018-04-02 Thread David V Glasgow via use-livecode
Thanks for all the suggestions, but blur works really well.  I just take a 
snapshot of the field, blur the resultant image, overlay it on the confidential 
field, snapshot the entire card to clipboard and then delete the blurred image.

I had to manually include it in the standalone, though, which confused me  a 
tad.

Also, fields (or is it fonts) are different in LC8.  Two fields with identical 
content,  font (arial MS) and settings, one clips the very top of the text and 
the other doesn’t.Nudging the margin up 1 fixes the issue, but it is a bit 
confusing.

Best wishes,

David G

 

> On 30 Mar 2018, at 4:40 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or make a generic "blur" image in a graphics program and overlay it on the 
> fields when needed.
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> On March 30, 2018 9:07:48 AM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> You could also make up bogus text data to show instead of using real data.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> > On Mar 29, 2018, at 11:48 PM, scott--- via use-livecode 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > If blurring turns out to be too problematic you might consider just 
>> > replacing text with bullets or Lorem Ipsum.
>> >
>> > --
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