Re: Mac app code signing for beginners
Mark, I think we can complain about Apple, but they are going to do what they want. My hope is to make it more clear where we get hung up so hopefully they (whoever writes the docs) can write them in a way that answers the questions we face. I think it’s a big challenge, but it’s the world we live in. Best, Bill William Prothero http://earthlearningsolutions.org > On Apr 29, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Mark Smith via use-livecode >wrote: > > Hi Bill, reading your message I thought for a second it was something I had > written myself. You stole the words out of my mouth. Always challenging, > never seems repeatable the same way twice. Eventually i figure it out but > there are so many steps (and missteps) that I never feel like i have > critical path down straight. Hugely frustrating and wish Apple would fix it > so that's it about 100 times easier. And why can't I have one file, just > one, that i use to code sign apps from now till eternity? Why do they need > to expire at all? > > Mark > > > > -- > Sent from: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac app code signing for beginners
Hi Bill, reading your message I thought for a second it was something I had written myself. You stole the words out of my mouth. Always challenging, never seems repeatable the same way twice. Eventually i figure it out but there are so many steps (and missteps) that I never feel like i have critical path down straight. Hugely frustrating and wish Apple would fix it so that's it about 100 times easier. And why can't I have one file, just one, that i use to code sign apps from now till eternity? Why do they need to expire at all? Mark -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Splitting long elements into two lines in an Option Menu
Jacqueline, Craig, Terry, Thank you very much for your answers. Best, Hery On 04/27/2018 01:36 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Or use a normal field as Craig suggested and create soft-wrapped lines by inserting ASCII 11 at line breaks. These select as normal lines but visually appear as separate lines. From the 5.5 release notes: The engine will now interpret a numToChar(11) character in a field paragraph as an explicit line- break when the (effective) dontWrap of the paragraph is false. This allows multiple ‘lines’ to be displayed within a single paragraph. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 26, 2018 11:43:16 PM Terry Judd via use-livecodewrote: Or perhaps use a form type datagrid - which will allow you to present and select multi-lined option more readily. Regards, Terry... On 27/04/2018 2:33 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of dunbarx via use-livecode" wrote: Hi. If I were you, with the task you laid out, I would not use an option menu. It is not good with wide menuItems, and it is not natural, if even possible, to select multiple lines in the way you want. Use a list field instead. A field has many properties that are denied an optionMenu, which is really just a button. You can have multiple lines selected, by trapping "mouseUp", say, and with the clickLine, select the following line as well. Or the following five. Or the previous. That sort of thing. A field just is far more able in this regard. Craig Newman -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Splitting long elements into two lines in an Option Menu
Thank you very much Richmond. Your answer was very helpful. :-) Best, Hery On 04/27/2018 05:09 AM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: I've just set up a stack containing 2 fields; one called "fff" containing your original string, another called "fCHOPPED" that is a scrolling list field. I have a button containing this script: on mouseUp put fld "fff" into FFF set the itemDelimiter to "," put 1 into KOUNT repeat until item KOUNT of FFF is empty put item KOUNT of FFF into line KOUNT of fld "fCHOPPED" add 1 to KOUNT end repeat end mouseUp which puts the string into the scrolling list field like this: /Dialyse rénale insuffisance rénale maladie rénaleDID diabète de type 1// //diabète insulino dépendant/ Richmond. On 27.04.2018 04:48, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode wrote: /Dialyse rénale, insuffisance rénale, maladie rénaleDID, diabète de type 1//,//diabète insulino dépendant/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Scott Rossi and TactileMedia
Hi Todd, can you say if you have any plans to produce versions of your widgets for non-mobile platforms ? Thanks, Alex. On 29/04/2018 20:09, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode wrote: Scott was such a talented innovator and I loved the work he did. At Digital Pomegranate we were customers and used TactileMedia controls. Since we are now creating UI widgets, please let us know what controls from TactileMedia you liked the most and we will see if we can make them into now LCB widgets. --Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Scott Rossi and TactileMedia
Scott was such a talented innovator and I loved the work he did. At Digital Pomegranate we were customers and used TactileMedia controls. Since we are now creating UI widgets, please let us know what controls from TactileMedia you liked the most and we will see if we can make them into now LCB widgets. --Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
The variabel scope can be a bit tricky. The difference between a script local variabel (declared as a local variabel outside any handlers) and a global variabel can be confusing. They act very much the same way when used within one script. The main difference being that a global variabel can be used in any script when it is declared in the same script. Both variabels retain their values between handlers and sessions as long as the application is open. To add to the confusion, temporary variabels (undeclared or declared local within a handler) are referred to as local variabels also. For the convenience of my students I refer to variabels that are undeclared (or declared within a handler) for temporary variabels, with names starting with t-. I only refer to local variabels as local when they are declared outside of handler, and I use names starting with s-. To make sure that global variabels are easily recognised as such I start their name with g-. I use the same naming convention for arrays. I also declare all global and script local variabels at the top of my scripts. Then I am sure they will be available to all handlers in that script. Regards Tore > 29. apr. 2018 kl. 20:37 skrev Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode >: > > "it must be declared in all scripts that uses this variabel." > > Aha: *thanks* for that. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
I imagine that if you had strict mode enabled then the IDE would flag it for you too (if undeclared). On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 1:37 PM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > "it must be declared in all scripts that uses this variabel." > > Aha: *thanks* for that. > > Richmond. > > On 29/4/2018 9:28 pm, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode wrote: > > If route66 is declared as a local variabel in the card script (and it > must be declared outside any handlers), then all other scripts that uses > this variabel must reside in the card script as well. If it is declared as > a global variabel, it must be declared in all scripts that uses this > variabel. > > > > Tore Nilsen > > > >> 29. apr. 2018 kl. 20:15 skrev Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > >> > >> OK: finally I have sorted out the problem. > >> > >> It seems that IFF I have this in my cardScript: > >> > >> globalroute66 > >> > >> onpreOpenCard > >> > >> putspecialFolderPath("resources") & "/assets/img/" intoroute66 > >> > >> everything works. > >> > >> What I would like to know is: > >> > >> Why does THAT script & the declaration of a global NOT work when it > resides in the stackScript? > >> > >> Richmond. > >> > >> > >> On 29/4/2018 8:56 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > >>> So, I have corrected the specialFolderPath as per your instructions. > >>> > >>> But I am still going wrong as my source for the imgData of img "p1" is > still > >>> listed asroute66p1.png . . . > >>> > >>> Richmond. > >>> > >>> On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder > containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder > containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone > builder. > > Therefore, there will never be a folder > specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a > Desktop folder inside the one holding your stack. The correct path would be > specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind > > admitting it. > > > > I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images > > with their > > sources set to an external folder. > > > > Now in my stackScript I have this: > > > > |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & > > "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card > > "TITLE" end preOpenStack| > > > > and in my cardScript I have this: > > > > |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename > of > > img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & > > "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks > set > > the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the > target > > image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
"it must be declared in all scripts that uses this variabel." Aha: *thanks* for that. Richmond. On 29/4/2018 9:28 pm, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode wrote: If route66 is declared as a local variabel in the card script (and it must be declared outside any handlers), then all other scripts that uses this variabel must reside in the card script as well. If it is declared as a global variabel, it must be declared in all scripts that uses this variabel. Tore Nilsen 29. apr. 2018 kl. 20:15 skrev Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode: OK: finally I have sorted out the problem. It seems that IFF I have this in my cardScript: globalroute66 onpreOpenCard putspecialFolderPath("resources") & "/assets/img/" intoroute66 everything works. What I would like to know is: Why does THAT script & the declaration of a global NOT work when it resides in the stackScript? Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:56 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: So, I have corrected the specialFolderPath as per your instructions. But I am still going wrong as my source for the imgData of img "p1" is still listed asroute66p1.png . . . Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone builder. Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one holding your stack. The correct path would be specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
Did you declare it as a global on the card also? You have to declare it for every context that it will be used. Stack, card, if you use it in a button script, wherever. If you've declared it in a card script, and set its value, but then use it WITHOUT declaration all you get back is the text of the name (IE route66) The reason you can see the value when checking it from the message box, is that it is executing the commands as if they were in the context of the stack script. To test what I mean, create a script in a button with the following: on mouseup put "undeclared variable:" && tUndeclared -- shows tUndeclared in the message box local tDeclared put cr & "Declared but un-set variable:" && tDeclared after msg -- no value shown, tDeclared exists but is empty put "value set" into tDeclared put cr & "Declared and value set to: " & tDeclared after msg -- tdeclared exists and now has a value end mouseup On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > OK: finally I have sorted out the problem. > > It seems that IFF I have this in my cardScript: > > globalroute66 > > onpreOpenCard > > putspecialFolderPath("resources") & "/assets/img/" intoroute66 > > everything works. > > What I would like to know is: > > Why does THAT script & the declaration of a global NOT work when it > resides in the stackScript? > > Richmond. > > > On 29/4/2018 8:56 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > >> So, I have corrected the specialFolderPath as per your instructions. >> >> But I am still going wrong as my source for the imgData of img "p1" is >> still >> listed asroute66p1.png . . . >> >> Richmond. >> >> On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: >> >>> In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder >>> containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder >>> containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone >>> builder. >>> >>> Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & >>> "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one >>> holding your stack. The correct path would be >>> specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" >>> >>> -- >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>> On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> >>> I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
If route66 is declared as a local variabel in the card script (and it must be declared outside any handlers), then all other scripts that uses this variabel must reside in the card script as well. If it is declared as a global variabel, it must be declared in all scripts that uses this variabel. Tore Nilsen > 29. apr. 2018 kl. 20:15 skrev Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode >: > > OK: finally I have sorted out the problem. > > It seems that IFF I have this in my cardScript: > > globalroute66 > > onpreOpenCard > > putspecialFolderPath("resources") & "/assets/img/" intoroute66 > > everything works. > > What I would like to know is: > > Why does THAT script & the declaration of a global NOT work when it resides > in the stackScript? > > Richmond. > > > On 29/4/2018 8:56 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: >> So, I have corrected the specialFolderPath as per your instructions. >> >> But I am still going wrong as my source for the imgData of img "p1" is still >> listed asroute66p1.png . . . >> >> Richmond. >> >> On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: >>> In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder containing >>> the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder containing files >>> you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone builder. >>> >>> Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & >>> "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one >>> holding your stack. The correct path would be >>> specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" >>> >>> -- >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>> On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
OK: finally I have sorted out the problem. It seems that IFF I have this in my cardScript: globalroute66 onpreOpenCard putspecialFolderPath("resources") & "/assets/img/" intoroute66 everything works. What I would like to know is: Why does THAT script & the declaration of a global NOT work when it resides in the stackScript? Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:56 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: So, I have corrected the specialFolderPath as per your instructions. But I am still going wrong as my source for the imgData of img "p1" is still listed asroute66p1.png . . . Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone builder. Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one holding your stack. The correct path would be specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecodewrote: I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
Yet, if I do this in the Message box: put route66 I get the filepath as one would expect. Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:56 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: So, I have corrected the specialFolderPath as per your instructions. But I am still going wrong as my source for the imgData of img "p1" is still listed asroute66p1.png . . . Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone builder. Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one holding your stack. The correct path would be specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecodewrote: I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
So, I have corrected the specialFolderPath as per your instructions. But I am still going wrong as my source for the imgData of img "p1" is still listed asroute66p1.png . . . Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone builder. Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one holding your stack. The correct path would be specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecodewrote: I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
Still the Queen of xTalk! Thanks. Love, Richmond. On 29/4/2018 8:01 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone builder. Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one holding your stack. The correct path would be specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecodewrote: I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
In the IDE, specialFolderPath("resources") points to the folder containing the working stack. In a standalone it points to the folder containing files you've included in the Copy Files pane of the standalone builder. Therefore, there will never be a folder specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/..." unless you have created a Desktop folder inside the one holding your stack. The correct path would be specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 29, 2018 11:27:39 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecodewrote: I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
Richmond, First of all I never use lockscreens in preopencards. It's redundant unless there are some conditions I'm unaware of. I recently had this problem when I used "file==>Import control from==>image file" and then subsequently set the filename property. It seemed like once the image control was using an image imported to stack I could never set the filename property and get anything other than the "horrible gray square". I don't think it was always this way. What I did to fix it was to delete the control and then added an empty image control from the IDE tools pallet. After that I was able to set the filename property and see the images just fine and dandy. Any chance this is also your problem? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 12:26 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Richmond Mathewson Subject: Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street? I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac app code signing for beginners
Randy Thaks for that info. You are correct that I load them from the ide. I notice that with lc9 I can load directly from the Developer menu. Nice. Maybe I didn’t notice it for older versions. I’ll get that into my notes. Bill William Prothero http://ed.earthednet.org > On Apr 29, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Randy Hengst via use-livecode >wrote: > > Bill, > > Sounds like you’re loading your apps to your iPhone and iPad via the Xcode > Devices and Simulators window… apps loaded in that way will cease to work > when your provisioning profile expires. As far as I know (and have > experienced), that is the “normal” way it works. > > However, those same apps if approved by Apple and made available in the App > Store will not cease to work when the profile you used to make the app > expires. > > be well, > randy > > Randy Hengst > www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 9:51 AM, prothero--- via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> I write a couple of apps for myself, that run on Apple iPhone and iPad. I >> have to buy certificates from the Apple Developer site. They stop working >> after a year. However, some of the apps I get on the Apple store haven’t >> been updated for more than a year, yet they still work. I wonder if it has >> something to do with the way I provision them, as developer apps. >> >> Building standalone, provisioning them, etc is always a painful process for >> me. I think one of the problems is the infrequency that I need to do this, >> the ever changing way it needs to be done, and the interactions between >> Xcode, the Apple developer web site, and the keychain. Finding and deleting >> old certificates seems to be some of the problem for me. They seem to be >> stored in multiple places and it isn’t obvious which place is accessed by LC >> when building. >> >> Eventually I get it working, but I’m still not sure why always. It seems >> that there could be more docs on this, but I know it must be an enormous >> challenge to keep up with this. Perhaps the alerts that come from LC could >> be more explanative? Or maybe there are simply too many complications. >> >> Currently, I create the certificates and provisioning profiles on the >> developer site, download them to my downloads folder, double click on them >> and hope they get into Xcode correctly. Certificates load into the keychain. >> This seems to work for me. When I update from old certificates, I need to >> delete the old ones. Finding where these are stored (multiple places) seems >> to change, but eventually I find them. >> >> Various postings of procedures by folks here have been extremely helpful. >> >> So, I hope my rambling explanation of my experience with some of my >> challenges with getting my apps on my own devices is informative to those >> who might be working with the docs. >> >> Best, >> Bill >> >> William Prothero >> http://earthlearningsolutions.org >> >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:35 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry Mark, I’ve just switched countries and I haven’t got all the info to >>> hand, but I think the length of validation depends on the certifcate(s) one >>> buys - you can get them for different lengths of time. From memory, mine >>> are three-year certificates, but you can get shorter and longer ones. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Graham >>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 15:21, Mark Smith via use-livecode wrote: graham, do your apps expire and need resigning after a year? -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please
Re: Down a leafy lane or up queer street?
I am being extremely stupid, and am getting so desperate I don't mind admitting it. I have a stack containing a series of images that are 'empty' images with their sources set to an external folder. Now in my stackScript I have this: |global route66 on preOpenStack put specialFolderPath("resources") & "/Desktop/Obfuscated/May 2018/assets/img/" into route66 go to card "TITLE" end preOpenStack| and in my cardScript I have this: |on preOpenCard set the lockScreen to true set the filename of img "p1" to empty --- set the filename of img "p1" to (route66 & "c1.png") set the blendlevel of img "p1" to 0 wait 3 ticks set the lockScreen to false end preOpenCard so, WHY cannot I see the target image, merely a horrible grey square? Richmond. | ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac app code signing for beginners
Bill, Sounds like you’re loading your apps to your iPhone and iPad via the Xcode Devices and Simulators window… apps loaded in that way will cease to work when your provisioning profile expires. As far as I know (and have experienced), that is the “normal” way it works. However, those same apps if approved by Apple and made available in the App Store will not cease to work when the profile you used to make the app expires. be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Apr 29, 2018, at 9:51 AM, prothero--- via use-livecode >wrote: > > I write a couple of apps for myself, that run on Apple iPhone and iPad. I > have to buy certificates from the Apple Developer site. They stop working > after a year. However, some of the apps I get on the Apple store haven’t been > updated for more than a year, yet they still work. I wonder if it has > something to do with the way I provision them, as developer apps. > > Building standalone, provisioning them, etc is always a painful process for > me. I think one of the problems is the infrequency that I need to do this, > the ever changing way it needs to be done, and the interactions between > Xcode, the Apple developer web site, and the keychain. Finding and deleting > old certificates seems to be some of the problem for me. They seem to be > stored in multiple places and it isn’t obvious which place is accessed by LC > when building. > > Eventually I get it working, but I’m still not sure why always. It seems that > there could be more docs on this, but I know it must be an enormous challenge > to keep up with this. Perhaps the alerts that come from LC could be more > explanative? Or maybe there are simply too many complications. > > Currently, I create the certificates and provisioning profiles on the > developer site, download them to my downloads folder, double click on them > and hope they get into Xcode correctly. Certificates load into the keychain. > This seems to work for me. When I update from old certificates, I need to > delete the old ones. Finding where these are stored (multiple places) seems > to change, but eventually I find them. > > Various postings of procedures by folks here have been extremely helpful. > > So, I hope my rambling explanation of my experience with some of my > challenges with getting my apps on my own devices is informative to those who > might be working with the docs. > > Best, > Bill > > William Prothero > http://earthlearningsolutions.org > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:35 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Sorry Mark, I’ve just switched countries and I haven’t got all the info to >> hand, but I think the length of validation depends on the certifcate(s) one >> buys - you can get them for different lengths of time. From memory, mine are >> three-year certificates, but you can get shorter and longer ones. >> >> HTH >> >> Graham >> >>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 15:21, Mark Smith via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> graham, do your apps expire and need resigning after a year? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: >>> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac app code signing for beginners
I write a couple of apps for myself, that run on Apple iPhone and iPad. I have to buy certificates from the Apple Developer site. They stop working after a year. However, some of the apps I get on the Apple store haven’t been updated for more than a year, yet they still work. I wonder if it has something to do with the way I provision them, as developer apps. Building standalone, provisioning them, etc is always a painful process for me. I think one of the problems is the infrequency that I need to do this, the ever changing way it needs to be done, and the interactions between Xcode, the Apple developer web site, and the keychain. Finding and deleting old certificates seems to be some of the problem for me. They seem to be stored in multiple places and it isn’t obvious which place is accessed by LC when building. Eventually I get it working, but I’m still not sure why always. It seems that there could be more docs on this, but I know it must be an enormous challenge to keep up with this. Perhaps the alerts that come from LC could be more explanative? Or maybe there are simply too many complications. Currently, I create the certificates and provisioning profiles on the developer site, download them to my downloads folder, double click on them and hope they get into Xcode correctly. Certificates load into the keychain. This seems to work for me. When I update from old certificates, I need to delete the old ones. Finding where these are stored (multiple places) seems to change, but eventually I find them. Various postings of procedures by folks here have been extremely helpful. So, I hope my rambling explanation of my experience with some of my challenges with getting my apps on my own devices is informative to those who might be working with the docs. Best, Bill William Prothero http://earthlearningsolutions.org > On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:35 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >wrote: > > Sorry Mark, I’ve just switched countries and I haven’t got all the info to > hand, but I think the length of validation depends on the certifcate(s) one > buys - you can get them for different lengths of time. From memory, mine are > three-year certificates, but you can get shorter and longer ones. > > HTH > > Graham > >> On 28 Apr 2018, at 15:21, Mark Smith via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> graham, do your apps expire and need resigning after a year? >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: >> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Omegabundle, Scott Rossi and TactileMedia
I was intrigued by Roger's reference to "tmAlign and "tmEffects" ... always on the lookout for tools to make my programming life easier. In the process I also ran across references to "Omegabudle 2011 for Livecode" ... which sounded like a GREAT deal. HOWEVER, I cannot find anywhere that I can acquire these tools much less more information regarding them. The " paradigmasoft.com" site (referenced in "http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2012-February/168494.html;) now re-directs to " valentina-db.com" with no reference to this Omegabundle whatsoever. The " omegabundle.com" site does not have any reference to any LC tools (that I can find). I've gone back a few months in THIS list and don't see any recent entry by Lynn Fredricks, who was the President of Paradigma Software in 2012. Scott Rossi's TactileMedia store, when accessed directly, only has "tmControl 1" available and scant info on it. If you Google for "tactilemedia store", you can find a reference to "tmControl 2" but, again with little info. Absolutely NOTHING about "tmAlign" or "tmEffects" or anything else for that matter. I will try to contact Mr. Rossi and Lynn Fredricks directly but, in the meantime, if anyone has any suggestions as to how to acquire these utilities or where they might be available, I'd greatly appreciate the information. Cheers! Doug Douglas Ruisaard Trilogy Software (250) 573-3935 > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 10:48:44 -0700 > From: Roger Guay> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Scott Rossi and TactileMedia > Message-ID: <2c5a3b88-d72f-4cb6-af6c-87b559257...@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I am a total fan of Scott and the many contributions he has offered to the LC > community over the > years. I particularly like his little plugins tmAlign and tmEffects and use > them all the time. > However, the title bars of these have gone from light on dark to light on > light in V9 of LC, to such > an extent that one can hardly read the menu items. And, so far, I have been > unable to find a > resolution on Scott?s TactileMedia website. Can anyone suggest an easy fix > for this? > > I have missed Scott?s frequent participation to this list and hope he is > well!! > > > Cheers, > > Roger > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac app code signing for beginners
Sorry Mark, I’ve just switched countries and I haven’t got all the info to hand, but I think the length of validation depends on the certifcate(s) one buys - you can get them for different lengths of time. From memory, mine are three-year certificates, but you can get shorter and longer ones. HTH Graham > On 28 Apr 2018, at 15:21, Mark Smith via use-livecode >wrote: > > graham, do your apps expire and need resigning after a year? > > > > -- > Sent from: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode