Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Alex Tweedly wrote:
So I think we're a few years away from being able to replace PDF with 
ePub :-(


No doubt.  There's also an post from me in the archives around 2002 
suggesting Mac should switch to Intel.  Sometimes I'm a bit early. ;)


As I said, long-term.

General market inertia coupled with Adobe's power and their dependency 
on PDF will certainly keep adoption of simpler, more flexible, and less 
proprietary formats at bay longer than would be useful.


But tooling will catch up to modern device usage patterns soon enough.

In the meantime, enjoy horizontally scrolling back and forth with every 
line of PDF text on your phone. ;)


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Re: Active window and mouse location

2018-05-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Is the window that remains on top a modal or system window?

Bob S


> On May 11, 2018, at 08:09 , Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> no apologies necessary... you got it completely right!... Unfortunately your 
> idea doesn't work in Windows 7 and/or in LC v 8.1.9 (I've removed v9 for the 
> time being, so it isn't available to try your idea).
> 
> The LC window remains "behind" any other window which I have made the 
> top-most.  Luckily, this version of my utility is for *my* own use ... the 
> user one doesn't need this sort of functionality... and, for the time being, 
> isn't deployed to the Mac/Apple environments at all.
> 
> Thanks again .. I enjoy learning about such alternatives... likely, they will 
> come into use in some future project!
> 
> Cheers!
> Doug
> 
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> Trilogy Software
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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode



On 12/05/2018 21:08, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:


Per Postel's Law, reduce the stockpile of PDFs littering humanity's 
infosphere by generating none except in the increasingly rare cases 
where no other format is a better choice.


Good advice to improve the world :-). But unfortunately difficult if not 
impossible to follow for now.


As a software user I have a variety of ways to generate PDFs (scanner 
apps that generate them as default output for multi-page docs, many apps 
'export to PDF', any app can 'print to PDF', ..) and basically no app 
that I regularly use has a way (that I am aware of)  to create ePubs.


I often get sent PDFs, never been sent an ePub document.

As a Livecode developer, I have ready access to libraries to create and 
to read PDFs (ok, need to be a Business License holder for reading). 
There is no (AFAIK) library to create ePub; the only ePub reader I can 
find (thank you, James Hale) needs some work to pull out the main parts 
into a library, and then to make it explicitVariable-safe (and it does 
need that - a couple of the complaints it throws up are indeed lurking 
bugs, not simply false errors).


So I think we're a few years away from being able to replace PDF with 
ePub :-(


-- Alex.

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Re: Certificate Problems

2018-05-12 Thread ELS prothero via use-livecode
Ok, I’ve answered some of my own problems. Panos’ suggestion to make sure “Beta 
Version” was not checked in the iOS preferences, worked. 

So, until the next time when I lose a bit more hair, my app is loading and I 
can test it.
Thanks, Colin and Panos, for the few words of wisdom that it took to get this 
going.

Best,
Bill


William Prothero, PhD
Professor Emeritus
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On May 12, 2018, at 8:43 AM, prothero--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it might be very helpful to know how the Apple Developer Web site, 
> Xcode, and keychain interact on the Mac. One thing that is confusing me on 
> the developer site, is when I try to make a new provisioning profile, it says 
> there are no available certificates. Yet, when I go to the certificates 
> section of the developer site, there are several certificates for iOS. 
> 
> It seems that I should delete all profiles and certificates and start from 
> scratch. But I go to the keychain and see a bunch of certificates that don’t 
> show up on the developer site.
> 
> So, I have the following questions:
> 1. What is the relationship between certificates stored on dev site, and the 
> keychain? I think certificates are resident on the keychain, but how do I 
> synchronize what the dev site thinks I have and what keychain thinks Imhave?
> 
> 2. Provisioning profiles. I know that livecode and Xcode stores provisioning 
> profiles in the mobile device folder in the user’s library 
> (/users/user/library/mobiledevice/Provisioning Profiles/)
> This is where livecode gets them. The dev site creates them and I can 
> download all of them from Xcode, or individually from the dev site. If I 
> download from the dev site, I can double click on the profile and it gets 
> loaded into Xcode and appears in the above library. I can alternatively, use 
> Xcode to download all profiles I have created on the dev site.
> 
> All of this requires valid, recognized certificates. This seems to be the 
> problem and the big number of certificates that appear on keychain is in 
> contrast to the few that show up on the dev site.
> 
> I tried to test an app that previously loaded to the iPhone, but when I tried 
> to make a new a provisioning profile, it said there were no certificates 
> available. Hmmm, the provisioning profile for my current app was created 
> without objections and used a certificate on the dev site.
> 
> So, do I need a separate certificate for each app?
> 
> So. perhaps I have gotten into too many details, but have I made my 
> confusion over this agonizing process clear? Perhaps if I could clean out all 
> existing certificates and start over, I would succeed. But, if I could clear 
> up some of my confusion, I could better solve these problems on my own.
> 
> Btw, Colin, I looked at the console error log and I didn’t see anything that 
> stood out. The transfer of my app to the iPhone seems to time out during the 
> signing process, so I’m guessing there is some kind of certificate problem.
> 
> I will be very thankful for any help on this, or reference to docs that might 
> help.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
> 
>> On May 11, 2018, at 11:59 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Also make sure that:
>> 1. You use a development (not distribution) provisioning profile
>> 2. "Beta version" is not checked
>> 3. If the provisioning profile is associated with a specific  app id, then
>> you use the correct app id.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> 
>> On Sat, May 12, 2018, 03:33 prothero--- via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Colin,
>>> I’m off the computer for the night and will give it a go tomorrow.
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> William Prothero
>>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
>>> 
 On May 11, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 It’s in Utilities. Open that. There’s a Filter option, which you could
>>> type in some letters once you know what process is going on that you want
>>> to watch.
 
 
> On May 11, 2018, at 9:15 PM, prothero--- via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> That sounds promising. I only vaguely remember how to do this.on Mac,
>>> how...?
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
> 
>> On May 11, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s sometimes worth opening Console, and see what errors are
>>> happening at that time.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2018, at 9:09 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>> I tried it, but it didn’t work. I do know that old profiles can cause
>>> confusion.
>>> 
>>> It does seem like a fai

Re: Certificate Problems

2018-05-12 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Panos:
Thanks for the suggestion. I never would have thought that turning off “Beta 
Version” would solve my problem, but it did. The app loads now.

Thanks!
Bill

> On May 11, 2018, at 11:59 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Also make sure that:
> 1. You use a development (not distribution) provisioning profile
> 2. "Beta version" is not checked
> 3. If the provisioning profile is associated with a specific  app id, then
> you use the correct app id.
> 
> Best,
> Panos
> 
> On Sat, May 12, 2018, 03:33 prothero--- via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Colin,
>> I’m off the computer for the night and will give it a go tomorrow.
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s in Utilities. Open that. There’s a Filter option, which you could
>> type in some letters once you know what process is going on that you want
>> to watch.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 11, 2018, at 9:15 PM, prothero--- via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 That sounds promising. I only vaguely remember how to do this.on Mac,
>> how...?
 Bill
 
 William Prothero
 http://earthlearningsolutions.org
 
> On May 11, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> It’s sometimes worth opening Console, and see what errors are
>> happening at that time.
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2018, at 9:09 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>> I tried it, but it didn’t work. I do know that old profiles can cause
>> confusion.
>> 
>> It does seem like a failure like that should generate some kind of
>> alert saying why.
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unrelated to LiveCode I read about something today to do with old
>> provisioning files and Xcode. Short version is, go here:
>>> 
>>> ~/Library/MobileDevice/Provisioning Profiles/
>>> 
>>> Delete everything, then in Xcode Preferences, Account, Download
>> Manual Profiles. That will download only valid profiles, and only leave
>> current ones for Xcode to worry over.
>>> 
>>> It may go horribly wrong, but I think it will improve things.
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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
the utilities pdf2txt and pdftotxt  (or do they spell out text?)

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy way to
> extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can build some
> indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through.  (THough, I guess I
> could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)
>
> Any suggestions?
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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Thanks Richard.  This helps cut my search down considerably.  I had already
set up an ubuntu vm on my unraid server, so I should be able to get
something going. Much appreciated.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Mike Bonner wrote:
>
> > I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy
> > way to extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can
> > build some indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through
> > (THough, I guess I could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> Long term:
>
> Per Postel's Law, reduce the stockpile of PDFs littering humanity's
> infosphere by generating none except in the increasingly rare cases where
> no other format is a better choice.
>
> PDF is an archaic format held over from the days when nearly all display
> devices had screens at least as wide as a printed page.  Back in the '90s,
> when it was popularized, a fixed-size format emulating a printed piece of
> paper was not an unreasonable thing to do.
>
> But times have changed.  We rarely kill trees just to read anymore, so the
> bounds of a printed page are approaching meaninglessness.
>
> This becomes critically important for delivering an enjoyable reading
> experience when we consider that an ever-smaller minority of our time is
> spent on screens large enough to accommodate that size.
>
> Many of our screens are much smaller, and moreover they vary enough to
> make any single fixed size needlessly cumbersome.
>
> Attempting to read PDFs on a phone ranges from mildly annoying to
> prohibitively frustrating.
>
> That unnecessary pain is easily replaced these days with modern formats
> that reflow text to fit any of the many devices we might be using at any
> given moment.
>
> There's a good argument for using EPub as that foundation.
>
> But that's a long-term solution, and while I believe it's an inevitability
> as mobile use continues to grow it won't solve your need in the
> here-and-now., so:
>
>
> Short term:
>
> The Linux universe has many good command-line solutions available for
> extracting text from PDFs easily and efficiently, like this one:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/228531/how-to-convert-a-pdf-file-
> to-editable-text-using-the-command-line-in-linux/
>
> For those Win10 Pro users who can be convinced the tick a checkbox, the
> entire universe of the Ubuntu shell is now available.
>
> macOS also includes utilities for this, but I don't believe the same ones
> (at least not without installing an independent package manager like
> Homebrew.
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World Systems
>
>
>
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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Mike Bonner wrote:

> I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy
> way to extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can
> build some indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through
> (THough, I guess I could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)
>
> Any suggestions?

Long term:

Per Postel's Law, reduce the stockpile of PDFs littering humanity's 
infosphere by generating none except in the increasingly rare cases 
where no other format is a better choice.


PDF is an archaic format held over from the days when nearly all display 
devices had screens at least as wide as a printed page.  Back in the 
'90s, when it was popularized, a fixed-size format emulating a printed 
piece of paper was not an unreasonable thing to do.


But times have changed.  We rarely kill trees just to read anymore, so 
the bounds of a printed page are approaching meaninglessness.


This becomes critically important for delivering an enjoyable reading 
experience when we consider that an ever-smaller minority of our time is 
spent on screens large enough to accommodate that size.


Many of our screens are much smaller, and moreover they vary enough to 
make any single fixed size needlessly cumbersome.


Attempting to read PDFs on a phone ranges from mildly annoying to 
prohibitively frustrating.


That unnecessary pain is easily replaced these days with modern formats 
that reflow text to fit any of the many devices we might be using at any 
given moment.


There's a good argument for using EPub as that foundation.

But that's a long-term solution, and while I believe it's an 
inevitability as mobile use continues to grow it won't solve your need 
in the here-and-now., so:



Short term:

The Linux universe has many good command-line solutions available for 
extracting text from PDFs easily and efficiently, like this one:

https://www.howtogeek.com/228531/how-to-convert-a-pdf-file-to-editable-text-using-the-command-line-in-linux/

For those Win10 Pro users who can be convinced the tick a checkbox, the 
entire universe of the Ubuntu shell is now available.


macOS also includes utilities for this, but I don't believe the same 
ones (at least not without installing an independent package manager 
like Homebrew.


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems


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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
That is pretty darn easy.  Sure makes me wish!

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I hear you. Too bad though because with XPDF, the function to fetch all
> the text from a PDF is just:
>
> function pdfText pFile
>   local tUnicodePageText, tUnicodeDocumentText
>   create inv group "pdfViewer" in this card
>   XPDFViewer_Open "pdfViewer",the windowID of this stack
>   XPDFViewer_Set "pdfViewer","filename",pFile
>   put XPDFViewer_Get("pdfViewer","pageCount") into pageCount
>   repeat with pageNumber=1 to pageCount
> XPDFViewer_Unicode "pdfViewer",pageNumber,tUnicodeText
> put tUnicodeText after tUnicodeDocumentText
>   end repeat
>   XPDFViewer_Close "pdfViewer"
>   delete group "pdfViewer"
>   return textDecode(tUnicodeDocumentText,"UTF16")
> end pdfText
>
> Maybe LiveCode will have a sale some day in the future that will meet
> your price point.
>
> For other who may have a Business License or just interested in what you
> COULD do with XPDF, I am speaking about it at this Thursdays's LiveCode
> Global.
>
> On 5/12/2018 2:30 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
> > Ty Paul.  Unfortunately, a business license is way outside my level of
> > affordability.  Looking into alternative methods to generate the index
> now,
> > though I'd still love to find an lc way to do it.
> >
> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If you have a Business License, you can use the XPDF external available
> >> with those editions for doing that.
> >>
> >> On 5/12/2018 12:58 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
> >>> I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy
> way
> >> to
> >>> extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can build
> some
> >>> indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through.  (THough, I
> >> guess I
> >>> could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions?
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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I hear you. Too bad though because with XPDF, the function to fetch all
the text from a PDF is just:

function pdfText pFile
  local tUnicodePageText, tUnicodeDocumentText
  create inv group "pdfViewer" in this card
  XPDFViewer_Open "pdfViewer",the windowID of this stack
  XPDFViewer_Set "pdfViewer","filename",pFile
  put XPDFViewer_Get("pdfViewer","pageCount") into pageCount
  repeat with pageNumber=1 to pageCount
    XPDFViewer_Unicode "pdfViewer",pageNumber,tUnicodeText
    put tUnicodeText after tUnicodeDocumentText
  end repeat
  XPDFViewer_Close "pdfViewer"
  delete group "pdfViewer"
  return textDecode(tUnicodeDocumentText,"UTF16")
end pdfText

Maybe LiveCode will have a sale some day in the future that will meet
your price point.

For other who may have a Business License or just interested in what you
COULD do with XPDF, I am speaking about it at this Thursdays's LiveCode
Global.

On 5/12/2018 2:30 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
> Ty Paul.  Unfortunately, a business license is way outside my level of
> affordability.  Looking into alternative methods to generate the index now,
> though I'd still love to find an lc way to do it.
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> If you have a Business License, you can use the XPDF external available
>> with those editions for doing that.
>>
>> On 5/12/2018 12:58 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
>>> I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy way
>> to
>>> extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can build some
>>> indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through.  (THough, I
>> guess I
>>> could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Ty Paul.  Unfortunately, a business license is way outside my level of
affordability.  Looking into alternative methods to generate the index now,
though I'd still love to find an lc way to do it.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> If you have a Business License, you can use the XPDF external available
> with those editions for doing that.
>
> On 5/12/2018 12:58 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
> > I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy way
> to
> > extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can build some
> > indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through.  (THough, I
> guess I
> > could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)
> >
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Re: PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
If you have a Business License, you can use the XPDF external available
with those editions for doing that.

On 5/12/2018 12:58 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
> I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy way to
> extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can build some
> indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through.  (THough, I guess I
> could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)
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PDF

2018-05-12 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
I haven't needed to do this before, but is there a (relatively) easy way to
extract the text from a bunch of pdf files?  I'm hoping I can build some
indexes for the boatload of files I want to go through.  (THough, I guess I
could bipass LC and just grep my heart out)

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Re: Certificate Problems

2018-05-12 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
I think it might be very helpful to know how the Apple Developer Web site, 
Xcode, and keychain interact on the Mac. One thing that is confusing me on the 
developer site, is when I try to make a new provisioning profile, it says there 
are no available certificates. Yet, when I go to the certificates section of 
the developer site, there are several certificates for iOS. 

It seems that I should delete all profiles and certificates and start from 
scratch. But I go to the keychain and see a bunch of certificates that don’t 
show up on the developer site.

So, I have the following questions:
1. What is the relationship between certificates stored on dev site, and the 
keychain? I think certificates are resident on the keychain, but how do I 
synchronize what the dev site thinks I have and what keychain thinks Imhave?

2. Provisioning profiles. I know that livecode and Xcode stores provisioning 
profiles in the mobile device folder in the user’s library 
(/users/user/library/mobiledevice/Provisioning Profiles/)
This is where livecode gets them. The dev site creates them and I can download 
all of them from Xcode, or individually from the dev site. If I download from 
the dev site, I can double click on the profile and it gets loaded into Xcode 
and appears in the above library. I can alternatively, use Xcode to download 
all profiles I have created on the dev site.

All of this requires valid, recognized certificates. This seems to be the 
problem and the big number of certificates that appear on keychain is in 
contrast to the few that show up on the dev site.

I tried to test an app that previously loaded to the iPhone, but when I tried 
to make a new a provisioning profile, it said there were no certificates 
available. Hmmm, the provisioning profile for my current app was created 
without objections and used a certificate on the dev site.

So, do I need a separate certificate for each app?

So. perhaps I have gotten into too many details, but have I made my 
confusion over this agonizing process clear? Perhaps if I could clean out all 
existing certificates and start over, I would succeed. But, if I could clear up 
some of my confusion, I could better solve these problems on my own.

Btw, Colin, I looked at the console error log and I didn’t see anything that 
stood out. The transfer of my app to the iPhone seems to time out during the 
signing process, so I’m guessing there is some kind of certificate problem.

I will be very thankful for any help on this, or reference to docs that might 
help.

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On May 11, 2018, at 11:59 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Also make sure that:
> 1. You use a development (not distribution) provisioning profile
> 2. "Beta version" is not checked
> 3. If the provisioning profile is associated with a specific  app id, then
> you use the correct app id.
> 
> Best,
> Panos
> 
> On Sat, May 12, 2018, 03:33 prothero--- via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Colin,
>> I’m off the computer for the night and will give it a go tomorrow.
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s in Utilities. Open that. There’s a Filter option, which you could
>> type in some letters once you know what process is going on that you want
>> to watch.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 11, 2018, at 9:15 PM, prothero--- via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 That sounds promising. I only vaguely remember how to do this.on Mac,
>> how...?
 Bill
 
 William Prothero
 http://earthlearningsolutions.org
 
> On May 11, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> It’s sometimes worth opening Console, and see what errors are
>> happening at that time.
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2018, at 9:09 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>> I tried it, but it didn’t work. I do know that old profiles can cause
>> confusion.
>> 
>> It does seem like a failure like that should generate some kind of
>> alert saying why.
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unrelated to LiveCode I read about something today to do with old
>> provisioning files and Xcode. Short version is, go here:
>>> 
>>> ~/Library/MobileDevice/Provisioning Profiles/
>>> 
>>> Delete everything, then in Xcode Preferences, Account, Download
>> Manual Profiles. That will download only valid profiles, and only leave
>> current ones for Xcode to worry over.
>>> 
>>> It may go horribly wrong, but I think it will im

Re: Certificate Problems

2018-05-12 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Bill,

Also make sure that:
1. You use a development (not distribution) provisioning profile
2. "Beta version" is not checked
3. If the provisioning profile is associated with a specific  app id, then
you use the correct app id.

Best,
Panos

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 03:33 prothero--- via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Colin,
> I’m off the computer for the night and will give it a go tomorrow.
> Best,
> Bill
>
> William Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
>
> > On May 11, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > It’s in Utilities. Open that. There’s a Filter option, which you could
> type in some letters once you know what process is going on that you want
> to watch.
> >
> >
> >> On May 11, 2018, at 9:15 PM, prothero--- via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That sounds promising. I only vaguely remember how to do this.on Mac,
> how...?
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> William Prothero
> >> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
> >>
> >>> On May 11, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It’s sometimes worth opening Console, and see what errors are
> happening at that time.
> >>>
> >>>
>  On May 11, 2018, at 9:09 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>  Thanks for the suggestion.
>  I tried it, but it didn’t work. I do know that old profiles can cause
> confusion.
> 
>  It does seem like a failure like that should generate some kind of
> alert saying why.
>  Best,
>  Bill
> 
> 
> > On May 11, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Unrelated to LiveCode I read about something today to do with old
> provisioning files and Xcode. Short version is, go here:
> >
> > ~/Library/MobileDevice/Provisioning Profiles/
> >
> > Delete everything, then in Xcode Preferences, Account, Download
> Manual Profiles. That will download only valid profiles, and only leave
> current ones for Xcode to worry over.
> >
> > It may go horribly wrong, but I think it will improve things.
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