Null character in text fields

2018-05-29 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Hi,

I have a problem with “funny” characters showing in fields of Chinese text in 
LC projects on PCs with a Chinese version of Windows (7 & 10) installed. 
Non-Chinese, standard version of Windows don’t show this. The character 
displays as a rectangular box. LiveCode 8.3 & 8.9.

When in a script I do:

put nativeCharToNum(char 22 of line 66 of field "Contents”)

it returns “0” (a zero).

The htmlText of the field seems to show an entity:



On the Web, I see that char 0 is the null character. A search for  returns 
no results. 

So, I’m going to write a script to replace  with empty in the htmlText. 
Hopefully this will remove it. Our translator in China will have to test the 
script to see if it works.

Has anyone seen this before? Or know how it could have sneaked into the text? 
The original text was brought in from English Word files of 1990s vintage, and 
modified and translated since then.

It is interesting that these LC/Windows renders this character this way only on 
Chinese Windows systems, and gives it this HTML entity.

Peter Bogdanoff
ArtsInteractive



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button action different on Android

2018-05-29 Thread Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode
Developing a stack on windows, which has two groups of 30 buttons
contiguosly placed, and each button's settings are:

'''
style=standard

autohilite, sharedhilite, focuswithkeyboard, focusborder,
defaultbutton,disabled = FALSE

visible, opaque, show name, 3-D, showborder=TRUE
''

On Android, after a button is tapped, its appearance is inconsistent. It
looks either:
1. first depressed (inset?) and then un-depressed
2. first depressed and remains depressed

It seems the difference in appearance depends on the time length of the
tap, and perhaps too on how narrow/small the buttons are (my fingertip is
almost larger than the button height). If a tap is very brief, the button
returns to an un-depressed state; if longishly held, the button stays
depressed.

However on windows, the buttons show no depressed-undepressed change. They
remain as they appear when mouse-clicked.

So, how can I get those buttons to work on Android the same as they do on
Windows, i.e, no depressed-undepressed appearance change?

Thank you.

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Re: LC9 and Windows Unicode bug?

2018-05-29 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I'm seeing the same results Mac Sierra / Win 10.  But, you can open the
file as binary.

...
open file theFile for binary read
...

Function Readln FILE_NAME
   Read from file FILE_NAME until Return
   Delete last char of it
   Return textDecode(it,"UTF-8")
End Readln

Function Readbk FILE_NAME
   Read from file FILE_NAME until numToChar(1)
   Delete last char of it
   Return textDecode(it,"UTF-8")
End Readbk

When I change to reading the file as binary, then I get the same (as far as
I can tell) results left/right fields.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I have found a bug in LC9.0.0 under Windows 8.1 that does not appear
> under OSX (Mavericks).
>
> When reading a UTF-8 file via Open File, Read From File, Close File (vs
> say a Put URL ...into tVar; put textDecode(tVar,"UTF-8") into ...) I am
> seeing a problem decoding Traditional Chinese and Japanese characters.
>
> The bug report below has a ZIP file with a test stack and a UTF-8 file
> to show the problem
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21316
>
> Can any one on this list with a Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 system and
> LC9.0.0 (stable) spare a few minutes and verify this bug for me?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
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Re: mergDoc - no preview, no sharing

2018-05-29 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
Hi Ralf

I think there is a bug or perhaps deliberate policy change on 11.2+ that means 
that files from within the app bundle are not recognised correctly. Try copying 
files out of the bundle.

Cheers

Monte

> On 30 May 2018, at 7:32 am, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is there anybody who can confirm that the iOS external
> mergDoc plays nicely in an iOS 11.2 or iOS 11.3.1 environment?
> 
> I am particularly interested to know if handler mergDocShowPreview
> and “Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
> or the share button work.
> 
> My tests using the mergDoc.livecode demo in LC 9.0 as well as in LC 8.1.10
> produced the following results so far:
> 
> Files tested: .docx, ppsx, .txt, .pages, .pdf, .png
> 
> Device: iOS 11.2 on iPad Pro 10.5 inch
> 
> mergDocShowPreview worked for .png files only
> “Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
> or the share button fails although mergDocCanOpen() returns true,
> the modal just shows the file name and “Office Open XML show” for
> .ppsx files as an example
> 
> Simulator: iOS 11.2 on iPad Pro 10.5 inch
> 
> mergDocShowPreview works for all files
> “Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
> or the share button can not be tested
> 
> 
> Device: iOS 11.3.1 on iPad Air
> 
> mergDocShowPreview works for all files
> “Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
> or the share button fails although mergDocCanOpen() returns true,
> the modal just shows the file name and “Office Open XML show” for
> .ppsx files as an example
> 
> Simulator: iOS 11.2 on iPad Air
> 
> mergDocShowPreview works for all files
> “Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
> or the share button: can not be tested
> 
> 
> Ralf
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Re: How To Become Android Developer

2018-05-29 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 5/29/18 3:36 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:

BR,

This works for me.

For JDK:
JDK 1.8.0_121


I've got 1.8.0_152 which also works. I'd guess any 1.8 version would 
probably be okay. BR: I told you "8" but I should have said "1.8".


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LC9 and Windows Unicode bug?

2018-05-29 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I have found a bug in LC9.0.0 under Windows 8.1 that does not appear
under OSX (Mavericks).

When reading a UTF-8 file via Open File, Read From File, Close File (vs
say a Put URL ...into tVar; put textDecode(tVar,"UTF-8") into ...) I am
seeing a problem decoding Traditional Chinese and Japanese characters.

The bug report below has a ZIP file with a test stack and a UTF-8 file
to show the problem

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21316

Can any one on this list with a Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 system and
LC9.0.0 (stable) spare a few minutes and verify this bug for me?

Thank you in advance.


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mergDoc - no preview, no sharing

2018-05-29 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Is there anybody who can confirm that the iOS external
mergDoc plays nicely in an iOS 11.2 or iOS 11.3.1 environment?

I am particularly interested to know if handler mergDocShowPreview
and “Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
or the share button work.

My tests using the mergDoc.livecode demo in LC 9.0 as well as in LC 8.1.10
produced the following results so far:

Files tested: .docx, ppsx, .txt, .pages, .pdf, .png

Device: iOS 11.2 on iPad Pro 10.5 inch

mergDocShowPreview worked for .png files only
“Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
or the share button fails although mergDocCanOpen() returns true,
the modal just shows the file name and “Office Open XML show” for
.ppsx files as an example

Simulator: iOS 11.2 on iPad Pro 10.5 inch

mergDocShowPreview works for all files
“Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
or the share button can not be tested


Device: iOS 11.3.1 on iPad Air

mergDocShowPreview works for all files
“Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
or the share button fails although mergDocCanOpen() returns true,
the modal just shows the file name and “Office Open XML show” for
.ppsx files as an example

Simulator: iOS 11.2 on iPad Air

mergDocShowPreview works for all files
“Copy to …” share extensions using mergDocShowOpenInMenu
or the share button: can not be tested


Ralf
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Re: How To Become Android Developer

2018-05-29 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all,

The older versions of Android SDK Tools now are a bit difficult to find, as
they are well-hidden in Google's archives.

If e.g. you need version 24.4 (which I confirm works as expected), try
these links, depending on the platform you are:

http://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/tools_r24.4-windows.zip
http://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/tools_r24.4-macosx.zip
http://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/tools_r24.4-linux.zip

Best,
Panos
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On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:36 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> BR,
>
> This works for me.
>
> For JDK:
> JDK 1.8.0_121
>
> Android Dev SDK:
> Just download only the platform tools not the entire dev platform.
> In the "android" utility
>
> Under Tools install:
> Android SDK Tools 25.2.5
> Android SDK Platform-tools 27.0.1
> Android SDK Build-tools 27.0.3
>
> Under Android 4.4.2 (API 19) install:
> SDK Platform v4
> Google APIs v20 (don’t know if you need this one)
>
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:58 PM
> To: How LiveCode
> Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
> Subject: How To Become Android Developer
>
> Can someone please update the lesson How to Become an Android Developer?
> On the Livecode site.
>
> 1) Load JAVA SDK – (JDK) – Takes you to JAVA SE 10.0.1
> - which I believe in incompatible with LC.
>
> java SE 8u171/ 8u172. Works, but there is no mentioned about that the
> Lesson.
>
> Anyway. Got it stalled.
>
> 2) Android SDK
>
> The link for the Android Studio page.
>  For the SDK only options, we find
>
> sdk-tools-darwin-3859397.zip
>
> Hanson says to get, in the lesson, "android-sdk_r090-macosx.zip:
>
> Hanson says " The current version of the SDK Tools is not compatible with
> LiveCode. Please download version 24.4.1."   Looking on the internet for
> "android SDK 24.4.1" only to find links... that take back the Android
> Studio page.. with no options other than sdk-tools-darwin-3859397.zip.
>
> OK so I download that
>
> But there was no "android-sdk-mac/tools/android" file to run
>
> ever I did find what it need, can we trust the lesson on what packages to
> install? If seems way out of data.
>
> Now I'm stuck...searching the mailing list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: How To Become Android Developer

2018-05-29 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
BR,

This works for me.

For JDK:
JDK 1.8.0_121

Android Dev SDK:
Just download only the platform tools not the entire dev platform.
In the "android" utility

Under Tools install:
Android SDK Tools 25.2.5
Android SDK Platform-tools 27.0.1
Android SDK Build-tools 27.0.3

Under Android 4.4.2 (API 19) install:
SDK Platform v4
Google APIs v20 (don’t know if you need this one)


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:58 PM
To: How LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: How To Become Android Developer

Can someone please update the lesson How to Become an Android Developer? On the 
Livecode site.

1) Load JAVA SDK – (JDK) – Takes you to JAVA SE 10.0.1
- which I believe in incompatible with LC.  

java SE 8u171/ 8u172. Works, but there is no mentioned about that the Lesson.

Anyway. Got it stalled. 

2) Android SDK 

The link for the Android Studio page.
 For the SDK only options, we find

sdk-tools-darwin-3859397.zip

Hanson says to get, in the lesson, "android-sdk_r090-macosx.zip:

Hanson says " The current version of the SDK Tools is not compatible with 
LiveCode. Please download version 24.4.1."   Looking on the internet for 
"android SDK 24.4.1" only to find links... that take back the Android Studio 
page.. with no options other than sdk-tools-darwin-3859397.zip. 

OK so I download that

But there was no "android-sdk-mac/tools/android" file to run

ever I did find what it need, can we trust the lesson on what packages to 
install? If seems way out of data.

Now I'm stuck...searching the mailing list








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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Iphonelagi via use-livecode
I looked at the list a green tick means it’s ok a red cross means it isn’t, the 
crosses I saw were usually server links and a Mac dang or 2

I didn’t try because the ones that had crosses were mostly business server ... 
coincidence I think not

Lagi

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 May 2018, at 19:07, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lagi,
> 
> did you try any of these links listed at that page? I tried 4 and all 4 were 
> correct and a download started.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 29.05.2018 um 19:53 schrieb Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> There are more than a thousand links and there are more than server that
>> are broken
>> 
>> https://www.drlinkcheck.com/results/a9d513/47/
>> 
>> Lagi
>> 
>> On 29 May 2018 at 18:40, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> I apologize, I had not realized that these links (for commercial servers)
>>> exist on the downloads page. They should not be there, as they are invalid.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for pointing this out.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
> On 05/29/2018 10:05 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
> LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus"
>>> in
> the previous link does work.
> 
> RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only
>>> if
> you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
> which you can alter to give you a direct download.
> 
 
 Begs the question of why non-working links exist on the download page.
 
 
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How To Become Android Developer

2018-05-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Can someone please update the lesson How to Become an Android Developer? On the 
Livecode site.

1) Load JAVA SDK – (JDK) – Takes you to JAVA SE 10.0.1
- which I believe in incompatible with LC.  

java SE 8u171/ 8u172. Works, but there is no mentioned about that the Lesson.

Anyway. Got it stalled. 

2) Android SDK 

The link for the Android Studio page.
 For the SDK only options, we find

sdk-tools-darwin-3859397.zip

Hanson says to get, in the lesson, "android-sdk_r090-macosx.zip:

Hanson says " The current version of the SDK Tools is not compatible with 
LiveCode. Please download version 24.4.1."   Looking on the internet for 
"android SDK 24.4.1" only to find links... that take back the Android Studio 
page.. with no options other than sdk-tools-darwin-3859397.zip. 

OK so I download that

But there was no "android-sdk-mac/tools/android" file to run

ever I did find what it need, can we trust the lesson on what packages to 
install? If seems way out of data.

Now I'm stuck...searching the mailing list








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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.10

2018-05-29 Thread PystCat via use-livecode
In my humble opinion, it is one the best features added to LiveCode…. I 
absolutely LOVE that little feature.

> On May 29, 2018, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> You need to have a script open. Then go to Edit /Options.
> 
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> On May 29, 2018 11:20:47 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> By auto complete, do you mean I begin typing a command (and possibly a 
>> variable) and I get a list of possible completions? I cannot see where to 
>> enable that.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2018, at 12:15 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In LC 8.2 we introduced the CommunityPlus license and the auto-complete
>>> feature, both of which are now included in LC 9.0.0.
>> 
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 05/29/2018 11:07 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Lagi,

did you try any of these links listed at that page? I tried 4 and all 4 were 
correct and a download started.


Yeah... most of those are proper rejections from cloudflare.

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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Lagi,

did you try any of these links listed at that page? I tried 4 and all 4 were 
correct and a download started.

Matthias


> Am 29.05.2018 um 19:53 schrieb Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi
> 
> There are more than a thousand links and there are more than server that
> are broken
> 
> https://www.drlinkcheck.com/results/a9d513/47/
> 
> Lagi
> 
> On 29 May 2018 at 18:40, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> I apologize, I had not realized that these links (for commercial servers)
>> exist on the downloads page. They should not be there, as they are invalid.
>> 
>> Thanks for pointing this out.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>> 
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 05/29/2018 10:05 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
 LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus"
>> in
 the previous link does work.
 
 RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only
>> if
 you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
 which you can alter to give you a direct download.
 
>>> 
>>> Begs the question of why non-working links exist on the download page.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi

There are more than a thousand links and there are more than server that
are broken

https://www.drlinkcheck.com/results/a9d513/47/

Lagi

On 29 May 2018 at 18:40, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> I apologize, I had not realized that these links (for commercial servers)
> exist on the downloads page. They should not be there, as they are invalid.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out.
>
> Best,
> Panos
> --
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > On 05/29/2018 10:05 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >>
> >> I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
> >> LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus"
> in
> >> the previous link does work.
> >>
> >> RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only
> if
> >> you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
> >> which you can alter to give you a direct download.
> >>
> >
> > Begs the question of why non-working links exist on the download page.
> >
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Re: How to handle a LSAH in user entered filename on mobile?

2018-05-29 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Bob,

> Am 29.05.2018 um 19:09 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> And here I was feeling like a moron for not knowing what LSAH stood for! :-)

for nine whole days? Poor boy! :-D

Looks like other felt the same, at least I did not get any response.

> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2018, at 09:29 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 20.05.2018 um 18:25 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi friends,
>>> the subject says it all :-)
>> well, obviously NOT, sorry, tiny typo in the subject, I am talking about the 
>> SLASH! 8-)
>>> User entered a filename with a SLASH -> ddd/uuu.whatever
>>> How should this be handled on mobile iOS/Android?...

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.10

2018-05-29 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

You need to have a script open. Then go to Edit /Options.

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On May 29, 2018 11:20:47 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


By auto complete, do you mean I begin typing a command (and possibly a 
variable) and I get a list of possible completions? I cannot see where to 
enable that.


Bob S


On May 22, 2018, at 12:15 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
 wrote:


In LC 8.2 we introduced the CommunityPlus license and the auto-complete
feature, both of which are now included in LC 9.0.0.



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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 05/29/2018 10:05 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Mark,

I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus" in
the previous link does work.

RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only if
you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
which you can alter to give you a direct download.


Begs the question of why non-working links exist on the download page.

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Re: How to handle a LSAH in user entered filename on mobile?

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Not sure about Mobile, but I was under the impression that Livecode handled 
path conversion internally if forward slashes were used. There are also path 
conversion functions. I usually check the platform, then do some basic checks 
for formatting and pop an error if invalid. I also filter for valid characters, 
and if the source string doesn't match the result, I pop an error. 

Bob S


> On May 20, 2018, at 09:25 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> the subject says it all :-)
> 
> User entered a filename with a SLASH -> ddd/uuu.whatever
> How should this be handled on mobile iOS/Android?
> 
> Escape with a BACKSLASH? -> ddd\/uuu.whatever
> Replace with what?
> 
> On the Mac this is obviously replaced with a colon -> ddd:uuu.whatever
> At least this is the way it appears in -> the files("folder with that file")
> 
> Any hints appreciated, thank you!
> 
> 
> Best
> 
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Re: How to handle a LSAH in user entered filename on mobile?

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
And here I was feeling like a moron for not knowing what LSAH stood for! :-)

Bob S


> On May 20, 2018, at 09:29 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Am 20.05.2018 um 18:25 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> the subject says it all :-)
> 
> well, obviously NOT, sorry, tiny typo in the subject, I am talking about the 
> SLASH! 8-)
> 
>> User entered a filename with a SLASH -> ddd/uuu.whatever
>> How should this be handled on mobile iOS/Android?...
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
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> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de


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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Mark,

I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus" in
the previous link does work.

RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only if
you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
which you can alter to give you a direct download.

Best regards,
Panos
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On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 05/29/2018 03:41 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Starting from 8.1.9 IIRC, there are two editions of LC commercial server:
>> Indy and Business.
>>
>> You have to login into your account in livecode.com and then you can
>> download the edition that matches your license.
>>
>> For example if you are Business on Mac and want to download LC Server 9,
>> the .zip file you can download is named
>> "LiveCodeBusinessServer-9.0.0-Mac.zip"
>>
>
> Um. No. Sorry.
>
>  nityPlusServer-9_0_0-Linux-x86_64.zip>
>
> throws a 404. That's a "not found", not a permissions violation. Same
> thing for any of the other links I tried.
>
>
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Re: LC & Java

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Ever since Hypercard I have loved the "do something to something else with some 
other things" approach, and also that I don't have to worry about variable 
typing, declaration and scope. These are all issues that (I assume) you will 
have to accomodate with Javascript, along with it's syntax "variable = 
getSomething(thing1, thing2)" and the way they define control structures. 

Bob S


> On May 21, 2018, at 17:59 , Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the links and suggestions Gentlemen  i will look at them
> and see how far i can get with my study of Livecode & Javascript together.
> 
> I'm not sure what about it I have disliked. maybe i'll fall in love
> with it
> 
> Thanks again


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Re: losing font info in fields again

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
By the way, I am noticing that a number of complaints about the IDE involve 
copying or creating and destroying lots of objects from one place to another. 
I'm curious why this would be necessary, unless you are building some kind of 
IDE tool that replicates objects like the tools pallette does. 

This seems to me to hearken back to the Hypercard method where stacks were 
optimized for this sort of thing, and cards and fields were considered a kind 
of storage object in leiu of a database for the information to be retrieved and 
updated. 

While I am sure you have a reason for your methodology, it may be better to 
simply have a script which creates new objects, then sets the appropriate 
properties of the objects to their counterparts. Also, if you are storing data 
in the above described manner, it may be a good time to cut over to using a 
database, even a simple one to store your data. If text formatting is an issue, 
you can get the htmltext of a field and store that in a blob column. 

In fact that might be a good idea for a plugin: A library of common objects 
stored and retrieved for recreation in an sqLite database. 

Bob S



> On May 29, 2018, at 09:35 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just created 2 stacks. In the first, I put a field and a button, then 
> grouped them. I then typed 2 lines of text into the field, then changed the 
> textFont of line 1 and 2 to different fonts. I then copied the group from one 
> stack to the other. The formatting was retained. I did this programmatically 
> and using the menu. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2018, at 15:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I ask this every couple of years (and it would be more often, but I
>> sometimes find the answer in my archives).
>> 
>> As my program copies groups from one stack to another, I am losing field
>> formatting information.
>> 
>> This time, the offending fields have, iirc, both ArialMt and dingbat text,
>> probably both in different heights.
>> 
>> It appears that upon copy, I have a font with serifs, and the size changes.
>> 
>> The sharedText of the field is set to true.
>> 
>> I vaguely recall that the reis a field property that isn't in the inspector
>> that needs to be set, but I'm baffled at the moment :(
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Windows 10 and LC9.0

2018-05-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 05/29/2018 08:11 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:


This isn't addressed to anyone in particular, but I understand it's frustrating 
at times that the IDE can be problematic. Let me just say with the humblest of 
intentions, reporting it here does not help the dev team much. They have a 
workflow driven by the Quality Control Center. If we do not report bugs, we 
really don't have a horse in the race when it comes to the stability and 
usability of the product.


In general I agree, but... I sometimes post here with possible problems 
I've run into


a) as a sanity check to see if it's just something in my code
b) if I'm seeing an intermittent problem to see if others chime in with 
the same symptoms and maybe we can figure out a common cause


and then I'll file a bug report.

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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 05/29/2018 03:41 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Starting from 8.1.9 IIRC, there are two editions of LC commercial server:
Indy and Business.

You have to login into your account in livecode.com and then you can
download the edition that matches your license.

For example if you are Business on Mac and want to download LC Server 9,
the .zip file you can download is named
"LiveCodeBusinessServer-9.0.0-Mac.zip"


Um. No. Sorry.



throws a 404. That's a "not found", not a permissions violation. Same 
thing for any of the other links I tried.


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Re: losing font info in fields again

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I just created 2 stacks. In the first, I put a field and a button, then grouped 
them. I then typed 2 lines of text into the field, then changed the textFont of 
line 1 and 2 to different fonts. I then copied the group from one stack to the 
other. The formatting was retained. I did this programmatically and using the 
menu. 

Bob S


> On May 22, 2018, at 15:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I ask this every couple of years (and it would be more often, but I
> sometimes find the answer in my archives).
> 
> As my program copies groups from one stack to another, I am losing field
> formatting information.
> 
> This time, the offending fields have, iirc, both ArialMt and dingbat text,
> probably both in different heights.
> 
> It appears that upon copy, I have a font with serifs, and the size changes.
> 
> The sharedText of the field is set to true.
> 
> I vaguely recall that the reis a field property that isn't in the inspector
> that needs to be set, but I'm baffled at the moment :(
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.10

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
By auto complete, do you mean I begin typing a command (and possibly a 
variable) and I get a list of possible completions? I cannot see where to 
enable that. 

Bob S


> On May 22, 2018, at 12:15 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> In LC 8.2 we introduced the CommunityPlus license and the auto-complete
> feature, both of which are now included in LC 9.0.0.


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Re: execution doesn't stop when multiple function calls in a line

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'll take a stab here. The line is one statement with functions that must each 
be evaluated in turn according to the order of precedence. Because it's one 
statement, I suspect each getVal() function is getting queued as though you 
used send in time, so as soon as a breakpoint is encountered, you introduce 
idle time in which the engine can work. 

This is why I like to separate out functions that return a value, like so:

breakpoint
put getVal("abc", dbtr) into tVal1
put getVal("def", dbtr) into tVal2
put getVal("ghi", dbtr) into tVal3
put getVal("jul", dbtr) into tVal4
setVal "someVal", tVal1 + tVal2 + tVal3 + tVal4

Now I can debug each function independently, first by monitoring the values 
returned to see if they are what I expect, and then stepping into the ones that 
don't return what I expect. This was actually discussed many years ago in a 
Livecode Conference in one of the coding classes. While it may look efficient 
to embed functions within functions, it's much easier to troubleshoot by 
breaking out each command or function. 

Bob S


> 

> On May 22, 2018, at 15:47 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It seems to me I filed a bug about this a couple of years ago, and it was
> fixed.
> 
> If I have a line like
> 
>setVal "someVal", getVal("abc", dbtr) + getVal("def",
> dbtr)+getVal("ghi", dbtr) + getVal("jul", dbtr)
> 
> and I stop the IDE in the first getVal() with the blue box when it hits a
> breakpoint, the other three getVal() still get called--and slowly, after a
> delay of seconds for each.
> 
> I'm in (supposedly) the latest 9.0.
> 
> Are others seeing this, or is it out to get me again? :)
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Re: LiveCode Builder linter support for Atom

2018-05-29 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
 In addition to the language-livecode package, you need to install the
linter package and the dependencies. Linter has a few settings where the
defaults seem fine.

in the language-livecode package there are a few more settings:

LiveCode server engine path (if you put it in the path, then just the name
of the executable is needd)
Compiler path for LCB and Module path for LCB.  Both of those would use the
same info as the SublimeText entries.

The readme for the package also covers the details a bit.

Thanks,
Brian

On May 29, 2018, 4:03 AM -0500, James At The Hale via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>, wrote:

Brian wrote :


issues using Atom though and just recently got it configured for linting
both LCS and LCB (all 3 OS versions). I will admit that my use of Atom
certainly pales to what the LC staff would be doing




I am sorry but you can’t leave it at that.
Are there (or could you share) instructions for doing this (or have i just
not seen where they are)?

James



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Re: group-editing mode

2018-05-29 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
EditBackground just tells me if it is enabled or not. I think I can figure it 
out, but will need to write a handler. If there is only one shared group on the 
card it would not matter but if more than one, I will need to specify. For now 
I’m just turning it off and not worrying about turning it back on.
On May 29, 2018, 10:33 AM -0500, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> > Am 29.05.2018 um 17:24 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> > :
> >
> > Not sure what you mean. Do you mean the SelectGroupedControls property? It 
> > looks like it can be applied globally or to a specific group.
> >
> > Bob S
> >
> > > On May 26, 2018, at 14:40 , Brian Milby via use-livecode 
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a way to query to see where group-editing mode is enabled (which
> > > group)? On a project that I'm working, I'd like to be able to stop the
> > > group editing and then restore the previous state.
> > >
> > > I looked at the commands in the dictionary and did not see a reference to
> > > one that would provide that information. EditBackground will tell if the
> > > stack is in group editing mode, but if there is more than one background 
> > > on
> > > the current card I don't see a way to obtain that information.
>
> check the "editBackground" property in the dictionary.
> I think this is what you are looking for.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Brian
>
> Best
>
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Re: group-editing mode

2018-05-29 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Brian,

> Am 29.05.2018 um 17:24 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Not sure what you mean. Do you mean the SelectGroupedControls property? It 
> looks like it can be applied globally or  to a specific group. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
>> On May 26, 2018, at 14:40 , Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a way to query to see where group-editing mode is enabled (which
>> group)?  On a project that I'm working, I'd like to be able to stop the
>> group editing and then restore the previous state.
>> 
>> I looked at the commands in the dictionary and did not see a reference to
>> one that would provide that information.  EditBackground will tell if the
>> stack is in group editing mode, but if there is more than one background on
>> the current card I don't see a way to obtain that information.

check the "editBackground" property in the dictionary.
I think this is what you are looking for.

>> Thanks,
>> Brian

Best

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Re: Object Referencing in LC 9.0.0

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I cannot make heads nor tails of your post. The asterisks and words running 
together make it impossible to read. 

Bob S


> On May 26, 2018, at 13:34 , Michael Doub via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can someone using 9.0.0 help me out?
> 
> This used to work in LC 7 but now generates an error on the second line 
> (*put*thelongidofobjRef intot1).  What is the new correct syntax?   This 
> popped up in the MasterLibrary.
> 
> -= Thanks
>   Mike
> 
> 
> *on*seSetObjectState objRef, objState*
>put*thelongidofobjRef intot1 *
>put*thelongidofbtn"Lib"ofcd"LibMgr"ofstack"MasterLibrary"intot2*
>if* t1 = t2 andobjState = "applied"*then**
>send*"updateMasterIndex"tocd"LibMgr"ofstack"MasterLibrary"in1ticks*
>end* *if**
>pass*seSetObjectState*
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Re: group-editing mode

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Not sure what you mean. Do you mean the SelectGroupedControls property? It 
looks like it can be applied globally or  to a specific group. 

Bob S


> On May 26, 2018, at 14:40 , Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to query to see where group-editing mode is enabled (which
> group)?  On a project that I'm working, I'd like to be able to stop the
> group editing and then restore the previous state.
> 
> I looked at the commands in the dictionary and did not see a reference to
> one that would provide that information.  EditBackground will tell if the
> stack is in group editing mode, but if there is more than one background on
> the current card I don't see a way to obtain that information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
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Re: Strange error from iOS Standalone Builder

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Not knowing much specifically about these problems, but having some experience 
in secure communications as an IT person, encryption standards are in a state 
of constant flux. Old ciphers are abandoned over time and new ones are 
implemented. I've mentioned before the debaucle in the copier industry (and 
many others I've heard) because of the heart bleed SSL bug which required the 
retooling of *every device* that used the old standards. 

The cure for all this is to try and use the most recent ciphers when possible, 
and that may mean having to create new certs on a regular basis. That is why 
certs have an expiry. That is one of the functions of certificate servers. It's 
one reason why self-signed certs are not trusted by many apps and devices. 

If you are implementing trust and encryption in your apps, this needs to be a 
regular process that you engage in. 

Bob S


> On May 29, 2018, at 08:10 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got this exact error recently(a week ago) when I renewed my development 
> certificate. I deleted the renewed certificate and then recreated it, 
> downloaded it and then edited all the provisioning profiles and assigned them 
> to the renewed certificate. Deleted all the provisioning profiles on the Mac. 
> Downloaded the provisioning profiles in Xcode. Then all worked again.
> 
> I also deleted all old development certificates in the Keychain app.
> 
> Ralph DiMola


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Re: Windows 10 and LC9.0

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I will say that from time to time while scriptint and debugging, my IDE wil 
CTD, but if I start up again and do the exact same thing I did before, it 
works. Because I cannot pin down the cause I don't want to report it. I am 
using LC 9.0.0 in MacOS 10.13.4. 

This isn't addressed to anyone in particular, but I understand it's frustrating 
at times that the IDE can be problematic. Let me just say with the humblest of 
intentions, reporting it here does not help the dev team much. They have a 
workflow driven by the Quality Control Center. If we do not report bugs, we 
really don't have a horse in the race when it comes to the stability and 
usability of the product. 

Bob S


> On May 27, 2018, at 13:17 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can drag-drop controls from the palette, resize the message box whenever I 
> like, and the script editor works fine for me. I haven't had a crash recently 
> until yesterday when I was implementing RSA encryption and I did something 
> wrong in my handler. So I'm trying to think what I do differently that 
> doesn't cause the problems you're seeing.


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RE: Strange error from iOS Standalone Builder

2018-05-29 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I got this exact error recently(a week ago) when I renewed my development 
certificate. I deleted the renewed certificate and then recreated it, 
downloaded it and then edited all the provisioning profiles and assigned them 
to the renewed certificate. Deleted all the provisioning profiles on the Mac. 
Downloaded the provisioning profiles in Xcode. Then all worked again.

I also deleted all old development certificates in the Keychain app.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 1:33 PM
To: How LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: Strange error from iOS Standalone Builder

We had our 3-year hardware refresh (sell all old Macs, enterprise wises and get 
new ones)

and I have a new MacBook Pro.  It still running High Sierra 10.13.4, just as 
the old did

I set up if iOS with new certificate / provisioning profiles

X Code 9.2. / LC9

Run my build on the new machine an got a code error I never seen before
 
Codesign wants to sign using key “brahma dev key”
In your keychain.

To allow this, enter the “login” keychain password.

Password: __



I tried my admin password, it didn’t accept it?

What did I do wrong?





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Re: Strange error from iOS Standalone Builder

2018-05-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That is a good point. You can have an account with no password set, but a 
number of things will not work with it, including the keychain which I believe 
MUST have a password. 

Bob S


> On May 28, 2018, at 11:16 , prothero--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think this is the admin password for your Macintosh. If you haven’t set 
> one, you do this in System Preferences, under the Apple symbol at upper left. 
> Click on “Users and Groups” and you will see the “Change Password” button.
> 
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
> 
>> On May 28, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We had our 3-year hardware refresh (sell all old Macs, enterprise wises and 
>> get new ones)
>> 
>> and I have a new MacBook Pro.  It still running High Sierra 10.13.4, just as 
>> the old did
>> 
>> I set up if iOS with new certificate / provisioning profiles
>> 
>> X Code 9.2. / LC9
>> 
>> Run my build on the new machine an got a code error I never seen before
>> 
>> Codesign wants to sign using key “brahma dev key”
>> In your keychain.
>> 
>> To allow this, enter the “login” keychain password.
>> 
>> Password: __
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I tried my admin password, it didn’t accept it?
>> 
>> What did I do wrong?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Fwd: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Hi Charles,

i´ve checked now and my custom 8.1.10 LC Server Business returns Professional.
The tsNet-x64.so file was copied directly into the ‘externals' folder in 
cgi-bin.
The file was taken from a Livecode Business 8.1.10 Mac OX S app bundle.

So this seems all to be correct, but it doesn´t work.

I even tried Livecode Server Indy 8.1.10 and the tsNet-x64.so from  8.1.10 Indy 
Mac OX X app bundle.
The same.

Any ideas what i can try next? What am i missing?

Regards
Matthias


> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
> 
> Von: Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
> Betreff: Aw: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?
> Datum: 29. Mai 2018 um 10:22:01 MESZ
> An: How to use LiveCode 
> Kopie: Charles Warwick 
> Antwort an: How to use LiveCode 
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself 
> to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business edition 
> of tsNet with it, it will fail.
> 
> You can use ‘the editionType’ to determine if LC server is Indy (commercial) 
> or Business (professional).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charles
> 
>> On 29 May 2018, at 6:09 pm, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not sure. But would that make a difference? There is only one type of 
>> Livecode Server commercial. And according to Panos´ post to this thread the 
>> tsNet Business external should work since release 8.1.10.
>> 
>> I´ve tried myself and made a custom installation on my web server. I 
>> installed LC Server 8.1.10 commercial to the cgi-bin and copied the 
>> tsNet-x64.so (from the Livecode Business installation on my Mac) to the 
>> externals folder on the web server..
>> It´s the same. Should i try Indy instead?
>> 
>> Btw. Is there a LC command/function which returns what type of Livecode 
>> server (community or commercial) is running?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 29.05.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Charles
>>> 
 On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Charles,
 
 thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at 
 HostM.com . They installed a Livecode server commercial 
 version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to 
 install it for every addon domain folder.
 Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. 
 But it was not working.
 I get this error message:
 file "/home/ua82/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
 row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
 This is what they replied to support request.
 "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can 
 look into this and run some tests on their end.
 The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not 
 currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to 
 verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
 put the externals of stack “Home"
 put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
 put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
 put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
 With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more 
 difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by 
 tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but 
 the developer should be able to look into this.”
 
 Any idea what might cause this.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 
> it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal 
> commercial desktop installation.
> 
> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other 
> tsNet calls.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charles
> 
>> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is 
>> there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy 
>> the external to my custom installation?
>> 
>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the 
>> external.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> 
>> 
>> 
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To Sean - This was sent on Saturday but found the bit bucket

2018-05-29 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi Sean,

First I must say that I am  relieved that you are ok - and didn't do
whatyou hinted at. I also admit to being the perpetrator of the heinous
crime of trying to help "one of us" in distress. But no, I didn't send the
police.

I did read your email to  the end btw - we do care even if you think the
world is against you at the moment! - If you don't have empathy then you
are a Politician or a Psychopath.

Before I start my lengthy stream of consciousness (ramblings?) please
accept the invite because gofundme keep sending me emails and I  do not
have access to the money.


Pride comes before a fall and respect isn't lost for one "failure" those
who love and respect you do for the sum total of your life not the
"failures" which can in many respects be out of our control.

And paraphrasing Roosevelt ...
"The  man who never had something go wrong  never did anything".

"Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people
who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Dale
Carnegie


Please re-read what you said and tell me how I was to react to this how
would I or your family have felt  if "goodbye" really was goodbye and we
had done nothing 


 I am £1000's down and well out of pocket. I will never
get it back. I have/will-have lost everything. I don't think I can come
back from this. My life is worth £0, especially to you guys. I'm like
abandon-ware. Your failure cost someone their life (not to mention his wife
and two boys who may well miss him but will be better off without him for
making the mistake of using LC and all things LC!).



Now my life is over. Worst Day Ever! Miserable. Rained on
and soaked through. Insurance doesn't cover for events like this and not
one person at LC or on here will be able to help me out of this hole. I
guess this is goodbye.


I might not have bothered except for the first  paragraph sounding so
final. it didn't sound like "shit this is bad". We have all  been faced
with a situation that seemed hopless and i've got that  t-shirt more times
than I care to remember.

 TL;DNR -- Short version SHIT HAPPENS!!! but never give up.

The worst  was when I was in hospital ready to start chemotherapy and
attached to a trolley having a blood transfusion and trying to finish  off
a program/demo (on my 386 windows 3.1  PC "kindly" brought in by my
partner) . We were going up  against some rather large companies for a
demonstration to British Telecom the next day.
I finished the program and in the end the program that won the contract,
did so because it had a GUI (it was written in VB) - Mine was written in
Turbo C with a dos windowing system and a multitasking kernel (it was a
multline voice application with a built in mini Domain Specific Language  I
wrote). The fact that it would not be seen by ordinary mortals and would be
in a "closet" just working it seems was secondary to the eye candy.

When I got out of hospital I wrote a VB front end to it and got it
installed into the biggest Opticians in the country - great I thought the
big time. No such luck - they were bought out and my system was replaced by
one of the big boys - to this day my system has stuff
that none of the later systems have.

O well. Get another  system into a  large telecommunications company  -
programmed to do what they wanted - we were vying against Digital Equipment
corporation and IBM, - I won because I  I could do it in 4 months (I did it
in 3) and they said a year. It worked! They then gave me a new contract job
to do,  that  saved them thousands  - great I thought my meal ticket - No
such luck  they were bought out by Vodaphone and DEC got back in.

I could go on. I created a system for a financial services company bought
out by a bigger firm and my system was replaced by IBM. Did I give up no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPb8tb3D6N0

There have been more before and  since , there have been  BUGS in Borland
C,  Foxpro, TAS, Clipper, VB, Delphi, UCSD Pascal, AlphaSoftware  - but
that's what  you expect. I jettisoned everything and jumped in with LC - I
checked out and paid for B4A/IJ Xojo and a few others but I have to say LC
beats them all hands down but i keep them in reserve.

Ive been using 6.7.11 for my applications until last week when the
manufacturer of my equipment changed something in the firmware and the
com/serial ports wouldn't working. I compiled it with LC9 and all works now
- except it's 17MB file size instead of 7MB.

Yes the IDE is slower, yes certain things don't work - but show me a
language or program that doesn't have any bugs - here's one in basic - and
I'm not sure if it is bug free.

10 END

=

To speak directly to LC


I agree totally with Sean and Richmond and everybody else  STOP ADDING
NEW FEATURES GET THE STUFF FINISHED THAT YOU PROMISED AND FIX THE IDE.

sqlite library
the stuff Andre goes on about - tying in the javascript ecosystem so we can
use LC with all those "free libraries"
the IDE lagging

Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Starting from 8.1.9 IIRC, there are two editions of LC commercial server:
Indy and Business.

You have to login into your account in livecode.com and then you can
download the edition that matches your license.

For example if you are Business on Mac and want to download LC Server 9,
the .zip file you can download is named
"LiveCodeBusinessServer-9.0.0-Mac.zip"

Cheers,
Panos
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On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> My apologies, I meant only one commercial edition of LC server.  You
> download it from livecode.com after logging in to your account.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charles
>
> > On 29 May 2018, at 6:41 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/29/2018 01:22 AM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote:
> >> Hi Matthias,
> >> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports
> itself to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the
> business edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.
> >
> > Actually the editionType reports "community".
> >
> > Interestingly, only the Community edition can be downloaded from the
> downloads page. The other versions all throw 404s.
> >
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> > ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Mark,

My apologies, I meant only one commercial edition of LC server.  You download 
it from livecode.com after logging in to your account.

Cheers,

Charles

> On 29 May 2018, at 6:41 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 05/29/2018 01:22 AM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Matthias,
>> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself 
>> to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business 
>> edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.
> 
> Actually the editionType reports "community".
> 
> Interestingly, only the Community edition can be downloaded from the 
> downloads page. The other versions all throw 404s.
> 
> -- 
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Re: LiveCode Builder linter support for Sublime Text

2018-05-29 Thread James At The Hale via use-livecode
Brian wrote :

> issues using Atom though and just recently got it configured for linting both 
> LCS and LCB (all 3 OS versions). I will admit that my use of Atom certainly 
> pales to what the LC staff would be doing



I am sorry but you can’t leave it at that.
Are there (or could you share) instructions for doing this (or have i just not 
seen where they are)?

James



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Re: Was: URGENT: MergGoogle no longer works on iOS: CLIENTS VERY UNHAPPY

2018-05-29 Thread David V Glasgow via use-livecode


> On 25 May 2018, at 5:07 pm, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This, too, is overwhelming. A little disturbing too as it was embarked on
> by people who know very little about me or the facts behind the situation.

Morning, Sean.

There is another way of looking at this.  Many folks don’t know you well, but 
felt a connection.  We don’t need to know all the facts and details.  We 
recognised a fellow coder in distress.  We could imagine how we might feel in 
your situation, because it's a precipice we have all seen at close quarters, 
and at least imagined falling in. 

There was no greater knowledge, connection or judgement required to reach out.  
As far as I am concerned, if it makes you feel better to give the money to a 
deserving cause, that’s fine.  If you use it to help you get back on your feet, 
that’s fine too.  It would be great to see you popping up on this list in 
future, but if not, well, good luck on whatever path you take.  When you find 
yourself in the fortunate position to help out someone else struggling in the 
future (and you will), just 'pay it forward’.

Best wishes,

David Glasgow
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 05/29/2018 01:22 AM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Matthias,

Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself to 
the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business edition of 
tsNet with it, it will fail.


Actually the editionType reports "community".

Interestingly, only the Community edition can be downloaded from the 
downloads page. The other versions all throw 404s.


--
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 ahsoftw...@gmail.com

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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Matthias,

Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself to 
the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business edition of 
tsNet with it, it will fail.

You can use ‘the editionType’ to determine if LC server is Indy (commercial) or 
Business (professional).

Regards,

Charles

> On 29 May 2018, at 6:09 pm, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am not sure. But would that make a difference? There is only one type of 
> Livecode Server commercial. And according to Panos´ post to this thread the 
> tsNet Business external should work since release 8.1.10.
> 
> I´ve tried myself and made a custom installation on my web server. I 
> installed LC Server 8.1.10 commercial to the cgi-bin and copied the 
> tsNet-x64.so (from the Livecode Business installation on my Mac) to the 
> externals folder on the web server..
> It´s the same. Should i try Indy instead?
> 
> Btw. Is there a LC command/function which returns what type of Livecode 
> server (community or commercial) is running?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 29.05.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>>> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Charles,
>>> 
>>> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at 
>>> HostM.com . They installed a Livecode server commercial 
>>> version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to 
>>> install it for every addon domain folder.
>>> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. 
>>> But it was not working.
>>> I get this error message:
>>> file "/home/ua82/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
>>> row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
>>> This is what they replied to support request.
>>> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can 
>>> look into this and run some tests on their end.
>>> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not 
>>> currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to 
>>> verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
>>> put the externals of stack “Home"
>>> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
>>> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
>>> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
>>> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more 
>>> difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by 
>>> tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but 
>>> the developer should be able to look into this.”
>>> 
>>> Any idea what might cause this.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
 :
 
 Hi Matthias,
 
 You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it 
 is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial 
 desktop installation.
 
 After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other 
 tsNet calls.
 
 Regards,
 
 Charles
 
> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is 
> there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the 
> external to my custom installation?
> 
> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the 
> external.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias Rebbe
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
I am not sure. But would that make a difference? There is only one type of 
Livecode Server commercial. And according to Panos´ post to this thread the 
tsNet Business external should work since release 8.1.10.

I´ve tried myself and made a custom installation on my web server. I installed 
LC Server 8.1.10 commercial to the cgi-bin and copied the tsNet-x64.so (from 
the Livecode Business installation on my Mac) to the externals folder on the 
web server..
It´s the same. Should i try Indy instead?

Btw. Is there a LC command/function which returns what type of Livecode server 
(community or commercial) is running?

Regards,

Matthias


> Am 29.05.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charles
> 
>> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Charles,
>> 
>> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at 
>> HostM.com . They installed a Livecode server commercial 
>> version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to 
>> install it for every addon domain folder.
>> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. 
>> But it was not working.
>> I get this error message:
>> file "/home/ua82/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
>> row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
>> This is what they replied to support request.
>> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can 
>> look into this and run some tests on their end.
>> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not 
>> currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to 
>> verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
>> put the externals of stack “Home"
>> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
>> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
>> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
>> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more 
>> difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by 
>> tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but 
>> the developer should be able to look into this.”
>> 
>> Any idea what might cause this.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it 
>>> is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial 
>>> desktop installation.
>>> 
>>> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet 
>>> calls.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Charles
>>> 
 On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
 mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is 
 there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the 
 external to my custom installation?
 
 Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the 
 external.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias Rebbe
 
 
 
 
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

2018-05-29 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Matthias,

Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?

Regards,

Charles

> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at HostM.com 
> . They installed a Livecode server commercial version for 
> me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to install it for 
> every addon domain folder.
> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. But 
> it was not working.
> I get this error message:
> file "/home/ua82/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
>  row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
> This is what they replied to support request.
> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can 
> look into this and run some tests on their end.
> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not 
> currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to verify 
> which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
> put the externals of stack “Home"
> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more 
> difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by 
> tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but the 
> developer should be able to look into this.”
> 
> Any idea what might cause this.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it 
>> is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial 
>> desktop installation.
>> 
>> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet 
>> calls.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>>> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is 
>>> there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the 
>>> external to my custom installation?
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the 
>>> external.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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