Re: sqlite config/compilation files on github

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 08/12/2018 10:34 PM, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode wrote:

Hi all

Could anyone point me to the file(s) on github determining how the sqlite
external is configured and built.  I've had a look round, but I can't seem
to find the relevant file.  I'm looking for the location at which the
full-text search option is configured.


Try thirdparty/libsqlite/libsqlite.gyp

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sqlite config/compilation files on github

[Bernard Devlin via use-livecode]

Hi all

Could anyone point me to the file(s) on github determining how the sqlite
external is configured and built.  I've had a look round, but I can't seem
to find the relevant file.  I'm looking for the location at which the
full-text search option is configured.

Regards, Bernard
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Text rendering of Unicode text in LC

[Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode]

Hello all,

I’m seeing Chinese characters being rendered differently in different versions 
of Livecode 8 in Windows 10.

LC 8.1.3 Chinese characters are displayed appearing similarly to the 1-bit 
graphics of the old days—aliased simple pixels.

LC 8.1.9 renders the same characters anti-aliased. Also, for 17 point Songti SC 
Regular, it is 1 pixel taller, with a corresponding greater line height—the 
whole field is stretched vertically. Also, in-line reference images which I use 
as small icons are also stretched 1 pixel vertically (but not horizontally). 
Helvetica font displays identically in both versions.

Here’s an enlarged sample showing both:
https://spark.adobe.com/page/clCst4mdUu8Jy/ 



Am I right in supposing this is a Skia issue, specifically the harfbuzz text 
shaping library, and that there have been updates to Skia/harfbuzz used in LC 
that have changed the rendering? Or, is this a LC bug that the text is 
correctly rendered with anti-aliasing but stretched vertically?

Our Chinese translators and publisher are distressed seeing this, as they 
consider the anti-aliased, “blurified" text inferior.

I’ve not seen any reference to text rendering in the LC docs.

(I’m still waiting for LC 9.0 to download to test it in that.)

Peter Bogdanoff
ArtsInteractive
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Re: Anyone using Older LC versions?

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Richmond/Tom:
> I use 7.1.4

Paul:
> LC 6.7.11

No worries, I plan to support 6 and 7 for years to come if at all possible!

Richmond:
> Check for "lurkers in the undergrowth" ...
> perpetual licences on earlier versions and don't feel that
> stumping up an annual fee for later versions is justified.

I like that "undergrowth" part!

Yes, one reason was always financial. However, some people have been 
stuck on older LC versions because of new LC bugs/issues, or old LC 
features.


There's often a workaround possible for those cases, but sometimes 
there's no budget and authorization to pursue one merely for the sake of 
using a newer LC, if an older LC works. So it's in limbo until either LC 
fixes the bug or a workaround budget happens.


Come to think of it, I know someone myself who is stuck on LC 5.5 for a 
product because of that reason, with a printing bug that showed up in LC 
6 and is still with us in LC 9:


https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21000

Probably some similar cases out there, so I'll think a bit more before 
dropping 5.5; if anyone is using 5.5 let me know. Thanks for the feedback!


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/

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Re: Anyone using Older LC versions?

[tbodine via use-livecode]

I use 7.1.4 almost daily.
Thanks,
Tom Bodine



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Re: Anyone using Older LC versions?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

We still have a few pre-Unicode stacks (all under LC 6.7.11). It is just
taking a lot of time (that we don't have) to get them all migrated and
tested to LC9+

I know you know this already, but I thought I would reply for any one
else interested in this informal poll


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Re: Anyone using Older LC versions?

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Well, I use 7.1.4 on a very nearly daily basis because, in my opinion:

1. The Properties Palette is way, way better than that in 8/9.

2. Almost everything feels more intuitive.

3. I rarely need any of the extra stuff offered in subsequent versions.

BUT:

4. I am NOT a person you should consider targetting as I like to work 
with "Plain Vanilla LiveCode."


HOWEVER:

5. Check for "lurkers in the undergrowth" who work with versions earlier 
than 8/9 because:


5.1. They've got perpetual licences on earlier versions and don't feel 
that stumping up an annual fee for later versions is justified.


Richmond.

On 12/8/2018 1:16 pm, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:


Howdy Folks,

I am preparing to roll out some addon updates. Therefore, I wanted to 
check which LC versions I need to support! What's the oldest version 
that YOU would need? Or if you know someone else who's using an older 
one.


(Don't answer if you're just using 8/9; that's expected.)

I've always supported a range of LC versions, due to the different 
financial/licensing and feature/bug circumstances that people have 
had. And (contrary to some pop "CompPsy") it's usually not a big deal, 
especially since I'm the middleware and the code already works. There 
are some generational LC tech differences and new keywords that can 
lead to optimization, but more often it's an arbitrary matter of which 
LC to compile with, and more importantly, how many versions I need to 
test.


So...for the last few years I've been targeting 5.5 and up. This time 
I'm wondering whether I need to continue supporting 5.5, or can I kick 
it up to 6.7? It'll be one or the other. If anyone still needs 5.5 for 
serious work, let me know.


(And yes, there can be some LC issues at least on Mac if publishing 
standalones with older versions, very true and good to bear in mind 
for security, UX, etc. But not everyone uses Mac or publishes 
standalones; I'm supporting addon users with their workflows and the 
LC versions they own, not policing or second-guessing what they do 
other than abiding by the addon TOS of course. I guess we may be 
getting past the LC permanent licenses where people would stick with a 
version to save money, but checking anyway just to be sure of people's 
needs. My addons run on the paid editions of LC, including Indy and 
Business.)


However, LC 4 is definitely out to pasture now as far as the addons 
are concerned! :) There were generational tech issues between LC 4 and 
5.5, and I'll be optimizing some code accordingly. In the unlikely 
event that anyone needs pre-5, there are still published versions of 
the addons that should continue to work very well with them.


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/
http://livecodeaddons.com/


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Anyone using Older LC versions?

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Howdy Folks,

I am preparing to roll out some addon updates. Therefore, I wanted to 
check which LC versions I need to support! What's the oldest version 
that YOU would need? Or if you know someone else who's using an older one.


(Don't answer if you're just using 8/9; that's expected.)

I've always supported a range of LC versions, due to the different 
financial/licensing and feature/bug circumstances that people have had. 
And (contrary to some pop "CompPsy") it's usually not a big deal, 
especially since I'm the middleware and the code already works. There 
are some generational LC tech differences and new keywords that can lead 
to optimization, but more often it's an arbitrary matter of which LC to 
compile with, and more importantly, how many versions I need to test.


So...for the last few years I've been targeting 5.5 and up. This time 
I'm wondering whether I need to continue supporting 5.5, or can I kick 
it up to 6.7? It'll be one or the other. If anyone still needs 5.5 for 
serious work, let me know.


(And yes, there can be some LC issues at least on Mac if publishing 
standalones with older versions, very true and good to bear in mind for 
security, UX, etc. But not everyone uses Mac or publishes standalones; 
I'm supporting addon users with their workflows and the LC versions they 
own, not policing or second-guessing what they do other than abiding by 
the addon TOS of course. I guess we may be getting past the LC permanent 
licenses where people would stick with a version to save money, but 
checking anyway just to be sure of people's needs. My addons run on the 
paid editions of LC, including Indy and Business.)


However, LC 4 is definitely out to pasture now as far as the addons are 
concerned! :) There were generational tech issues between LC 4 and 5.5, 
and I'll be optimizing some code accordingly. In the unlikely event that 
anyone needs pre-5, there are still published versions of the addons 
that should continue to work very well with them.


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/
http://livecodeaddons.com/


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Re: Need a little help with image resizing

[Michael Kristensen via use-livecode]

Thanks Richard and Jacqueline

That was easy.

Did not know about the crop command.

Michael

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