Re: Refactoring is your friend / moving from 6.x to 9.x

2019-01-04 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Richard: > Is there an actual list of concrete concerns here [...] > or did I just spend an hour reading that I'll never get back? > I feel rickrolled. A profound question, my friend. :D You may notice something special about the following link, adapted in honor of the situation:

Re: Navigator 7.0.1rc1 is available -- Multi-target windows!

2019-01-04 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Wow, that's a lot of information you're displaying -- have you noticed any hit on Navigator's display performance? Also, couldn't you replace the left of tID & "," & the top of tID & "," & the right of tID & "," & the bottom of tID with the rect of tID ? On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:02 PM pink

Re: Navigator 7.0.1rc1 is available -- Multi-target windows!

2019-01-04 Thread pink via use-livecode
> > 1. One thing I would love to do is assign different commands to the > "Command Bars", I've been going through the source code and haven't > figured > out where this happens... > I obviously need to do better here: just right-click/control-click a command bar. The pop-up menu lets you select

Re: Navigator 7.0.1rc1 is available -- Multi-target windows!

2019-01-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
"so I get the current way it works. " Ditto that. I was afraid to ask indenting. Then suddenly it appeared! BR Bob Sneidar wrote: I say NAY! I like the way it indents now. I'm surprised the interface doesn't list every card, each indented, with all it's own controls indented further,

Re: Navigator 7.0.1rc1 is available -- Multi-target windows!

2019-01-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I say NAY! I like the way it indents now. I'm surprised the interface doesn't list every card, each indented, with all it's own controls indented further, but it would get really really busy at that point so I get the current way it works. Bob S > On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:35 , Geoff Canyon via

Re: Navigator 7.0.1rc1 is available -- Multi-target windows!

2019-01-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I have noted over the years that when designing graphics, lots of different colors is confusing to the mind. Everytime something changes, whether in a typeset layout with pictures and graphics, or in a user interface, the mind stops and asks, "Why is that?" If it asks too many times or too

Re: Refactoring is your friend / moving from 6.x to 9.x

2019-01-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
+1 I'm just elated I can write apps again after such a long drought from Hypercard, and the disappointment I had with Supercard. I personally think LC is what Hypercard should ALWAYS have been, or would have become had Apple had kept it up, or had someone else taken it up. Now I do not develop

Re: Is anyone doing multiple window management under Windows 10...

2019-01-04 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
done. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:55 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I am trying to generate some interest in getting this bug: > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16305 > > fixed for the next release of LiveCode. The 'effective' keyword for >

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:05 PM JJS via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks very much for your clear reply Trevor. > > And i'd like to thank you for your great contributions. > You are welcome. > Given the fact we can always "roll back" , i can give it a try on a >

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Thanks very much for your clear reply Trevor. And i'd like to thank you for your great contributions. Given the fact we can always "roll back" , i can give it a try on a project and see how it goes. I was especially interested in the Dataview as perhaps it is faster and may scroll smoother

Is anyone doing multiple window management under Windows 10...

2019-01-04 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I am trying to generate some interest in getting this bug: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16305 fixed for the next release of LiveCode. The 'effective' keyword for stack rectangles still thinks Windows 10 has 8px borders! (when they are 1px) When this bug was submitted Windows

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 12:12 PM JJS via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Curious about some things. Can this dataview do the same things as the datagrid? > > Like Form with images and fields on a row via row template or similar? > Yes. Row templates use the same concept as

Re: Navigator 7.0.1rc1 is available -- Multi-target windows!

2019-01-04 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Answers inline: On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 5:06 AM pink via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I love this plugin... one of my top 3 favorites > > Here's my wishlist: > > 1. One thing I would love to do is assign different commands to the > "Command Bars", I've been going

Re: Refactoring is your friend / moving from 6.x to 9.x

2019-01-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 1/4/19 3:40 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode wrote: Actually I did not expect this thread to turn into philosophical discussions. What I was searching for was input on gotchas you guys and girls may have experienced when moving from the monolith engine to the refactored one., so

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Curious about some things. Can this dataview do the same things as the datagrid? Like Form with images and fields on a row via row template or similar? Does it has scroller for mobile? or has it to be created like with DG1 and other groups?  l hesitate on using a lot of 3rd party tools,

Re: file: vs bibfile: usage?

2019-01-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
On a Mac you have to use binfile if you want the appropriate line endings (LF)* as file will change them to the legacy version (CR).  On Windows, you probably still want to use file so that the line endings are adjusted to CRLF.  UTF recognizes both as valid (CRLF and LF), not sure about CR. *

file: vs bibfile: usage?

2019-01-04 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I have seen example in the dictionary, for example in the LC901 Dictionary under "textEncode" entry, where LC9 text (in a field or variable) is encoded as UTF-8 and written to a file as: puttextEncode(tSomeText,"UTF-8") intoURL ("file:") However, my understanding is the the "file:" identifier

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Trevor DeVore wrote: > > Over the holiday break I took time to package up some UI controls I use in > my own projects and make them available as helpers for Levure apps*. The > controls are named "DataView" and "DataView Tree". The DataView is a > leaner, more

Re: Navigator 7.0.1rc1 is available -- Multi-target windows!

2019-01-04 Thread pink via use-livecode
I love this plugin... one of my top 3 favorites Here's my wishlist: 1. One thing I would love to do is assign different commands to the "Command Bars", I've been going through the source code and haven't figured out where this happens... 2. Another feature request would be to assign a

Re: Refactoring is your friend / moving from 6.x to 9.x

2019-01-04 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode
> Of course, the latter is making the assumption that > Malte has a Retina mac... Indeed he has (now and did not back in the days where the app was written) Actually I did not expect this thread to turn into philosophical discussions. What I was searching for was input on gotchas you guys and

Re: IMAP library, or support via tsNet?

2019-01-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
That's great, thank you Charles. Ben On 04/01/2019 00:08, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote: Hi Ben, Support for IMAP was added into tsNet a while ago. There are a few lessons that I’ve added to LiveCode’s website on IMAP. Lessons:

Re: Refactoring is your friend / moving from 6.x to 9.x

2019-01-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2019-01-04 09:03, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote: So what I can't confirm is whether PR6671 has been implemented into a current version of LC9, but what I will say is this, if it hasn't then Malte can look forward to an eventual speed improvement in large Array operations as Mark Wa has

Re: Refactoring is your friend / moving from 6.x to 9.x

2019-01-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2019-01-04 07:40, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Read through this whole thread, optimistic that I'd find the list of things that differentiate v6 and v9 so we can hone in on actual solutions. I learned two things: - lock/unlock changed Except it hasn't - lock/unlock screen work

Re: Refactoring is your friend / moving from 6.x to 9.x

2019-01-04 Thread Kay C Lan via use-livecode
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:03 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > Is there an actual list of concrete concerns here that the team may be > able to take action on ... I think the closest would be: >Malte wrote: >Not yet fixable for me: >Array operations on larger data sets still slower