Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

William Prothero wrote:

> I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though.
> Anybody have recommendations?

Upgrade to one of the most secure OSes on the planet:
https://www.qubes-os.org/

But why run it on stock hardware when you can have the world's most 
secure laptop for under $1400?:

https://puri.sm

:)

Or follow Stephen's guidance.

But really, the Purism Librem is a nice machine, and you can order it 
with QubesOS preinstalled.


--
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Re: Android SDK

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Thank you; that did the trick.

Richmond.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 12:55 AM hh via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> > Richmond wrote:
> > because LiveCode seems unable to  "see" my User/library folder.
>
> A simple way that you (and LiveCode) can see the Library Folder:
>
> Select your home folder in the finder. Hit cmd-J (= View >Show View
> Options)
> and check "Show Library Folder".
>
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

Try Avast!

https://www.avast.com/en-us/index#mac 

Rick

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:04 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Problem solved, but first:
> I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for 
> “Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file. The 
> OS wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with BitDefender. I 
> also found that there were un-fixable errors in my boot drive, which is an 
> SSD drive. I wanted to delete all anti-virus files and CleanMyMac, which 
> contained both version 3 and X. I also needed to deal with the boot drive 
> disc errors, which DiskUtility couldn’t fix. I was going to have to 
> completely erase and reformat the boot drive. Fortunately, my boot drive was 
> still functioning mostly normally.
> 
> First I booted my computer from an external drive that I had created a couple 
> of weeks ago using SuperDuper. Then I deleted all Library files related to 
> BitDefender and CleanMyMac. I think I got all of them, but may have missed 
> something.
> 
> Next I created a disc image big enough to hold all of my boot drive content 
> (on an external drive), so I could restore it after reformatting. I used 
> SuperDuper to copy my boot drive content to the disc image. Then I 
> reformatted my original boot drive and after that, used SuperDuper to copy 
> the disc image contents back to my original boot drive.
> 
> I checked that the Devo prefs were being updated correctly, and yes, they 
> were. Problem solved.
> 
> I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody have 
> recommendations?
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
>> I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>> On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>> , wrote:
>>> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I 
>>> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking 
>>> the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time 
>>> now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot 
>>> reproduce..."
>>> 
>>> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say that, 
>>> because, you may be doing something else, the application is not 
>>> experiencing any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash 
>>> report. It's as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process." 
>>> Although it also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control 
>>> from the tool bar onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when 
>>> create a button, drag it the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed, 
>>> again...sigh" Now, that seems unrelated... but
>>> 
>>> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
>>> reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
>>> 
>>> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing 
>>> else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
>>> 
>>> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
>>> 
>>> BR
>>> 
>>> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated 
>>> the os to 10.14.3.
>>> 
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

"I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody
have recommendations?"

most likely you don't need one.  I have never used one on a mac since 1983.
Just practice safe computing.
--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:05 PM William Prothero via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Problem solved, but first:
> I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for
> “Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file.
> The OS wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with
> BitDefender. I also found that there were un-fixable errors in my boot
> drive, which is an SSD drive. I wanted to delete all anti-virus files and
> CleanMyMac, which contained both version 3 and X. I also needed to deal
> with the boot drive disc errors, which DiskUtility couldn’t fix. I was
> going to have to completely erase and reformat the boot drive. Fortunately,
> my boot drive was still functioning mostly normally.
>
> First I booted my computer from an external drive that I had created a
> couple of weeks ago using SuperDuper. Then I deleted all Library files
> related to BitDefender and CleanMyMac. I think I got all of them, but may
> have missed something.
>
> Next I created a disc image big enough to hold all of my boot drive
> content (on an external drive), so I could restore it after reformatting. I
> used SuperDuper to copy my boot drive content to the disc image. Then I
> reformatted my original boot drive and after that, used SuperDuper to copy
> the disc image contents back to my original boot drive.
>
> I checked that the Devo prefs were being updated correctly, and yes, they
> were. Problem solved.
>
> I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody
> have recommendations?
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
> > I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> > On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
> use-livecode , wrote:
> >> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I
> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking
> the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time
> now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot
> reproduce..."
> >>
> >> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say
> that, because, you may be doing something else, the application is not
> experiencing any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash
> report. It's as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process."
> Although it also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control
> from the tool bar onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when
> create a button, drag it the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed,
> again...sigh" Now, that seems unrelated... but
> >>
> >> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I
> hard to reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
> >>
> >> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done
> nothing else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
> >>
> >> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
> >>
> >> BR
> >>
> >> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then
> updated the os to 10.14.3.
> >>
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Problem solved, but first:
I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for 
“Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file. The OS 
wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with BitDefender. I also 
found that there were un-fixable errors in my boot drive, which is an SSD 
drive. I wanted to delete all anti-virus files and CleanMyMac, which contained 
both version 3 and X. I also needed to deal with the boot drive disc errors, 
which DiskUtility couldn’t fix. I was going to have to completely erase and 
reformat the boot drive. Fortunately, my boot drive was still functioning 
mostly normally.

First I booted my computer from an external drive that I had created a couple 
of weeks ago using SuperDuper. Then I deleted all Library files related to 
BitDefender and CleanMyMac. I think I got all of them, but may have missed 
something.

Next I created a disc image big enough to hold all of my boot drive content (on 
an external drive), so I could restore it after reformatting. I used SuperDuper 
to copy my boot drive content to the disc image. Then I reformatted my original 
boot drive and after that, used SuperDuper to copy the disc image contents back 
to my original boot drive.

I checked that the Devo prefs were being updated correctly, and yes, they were. 
Problem solved.

I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody have 
recommendations?

Best,
Bill


> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
> I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
> , wrote:
>> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I 
>> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking 
>> the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time 
>> now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot 
>> reproduce..."
>> 
>> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say that, 
>> because, you may be doing something else, the application is not 
>> experiencing any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash 
>> report. It's as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process." 
>> Although it also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control from 
>> the tool bar onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when create a 
>> button, drag it the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed, again...sigh" Now, 
>> that seems unrelated... but
>> 
>> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
>> reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
>> 
>> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing 
>> else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
>> 
>> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
>> 
>> BR
>> 
>> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated 
>> the os to 10.14.3.
>> 
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Re: Android SDK

[hh via use-livecode]

> Richmond wrote:
> because LiveCode seems unable to  "see" my User/library folder.

A simple way that you (and LiveCode) can see the Library Folder:

Select your home folder in the finder. Hit cmd-J (= View >Show View Options)
and check "Show Library Folder".

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Re: Android SDK

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

You can drag it into the window (reported in another thread) or you can create 
a shortcut to the folder that you can navigate to.

Thanks,
Brian
On Feb 10, 2019, 10:58 AM -0500, Richmond via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> I have just installed Android studio on my Mac Mini and seem unable to
> link my
> LiveCode 9.0.0 installation to the SDK because LiveCode seems unable to
> "see"
> my User/library folder.
>
> Richmond.
>
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Android SDK

[Richmond via use-livecode]

I have just installed Android studio on my Mac Mini and seem unable to 
link my
LiveCode 9.0.0 installation to the SDK because LiveCode seems unable to 
"see"

my User/library folder.

Richmond.

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.

Thanks,
Brian
On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I 
> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking the 
> IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time now, 
> at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot 
> reproduce..."
>
> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say that, 
> because, you may be doing something else, the application is not experiencing 
> any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash report. It's 
> as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process." Although it 
> also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control from the tool bar 
> onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when create a button, drag it 
> the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed, again...sigh" Now, that seems 
> unrelated... but
>
> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
> reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
>
> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing 
> else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
>
> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
>
> BR
>
> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated 
> the os to 10.14.3.
>
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I thought 
Navigator would not save preferences.  Went back to work, thinking the IDE has 
lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time now, at least 
once a day.  No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot reproduce..." 

Besides, two other programs  unrelated, will suddenly "wink out"  I say that, 
because, you may be doing something else, the application is not experiencing 
any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash report. It's as 
if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process."   Although it also 
happens in the  IDE, especially when dragging a control from the tool bar onto 
a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when create a button, drag it the 
tools pallet  "Oh no! the IDE crashed, again...sigh"  Now, that seems 
unrelated... but

Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3 

Now, this  morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing else, 
one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"

I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast

BR

Bill wrote:  So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated the 
os to 10.14.3. 

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Re: Mac Desktop App - No Longer Save to the Engine/Resourses Folder?

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Right, well it's more than just prefs, "years ago" I actually used the 
architecture of keep a "document" stack inside the standalone. It transparently 
saved the users work...

In house, on the LAN, I waffled back and  forth between keeping the "document" 
stack on a server and calling it with a "loader/splash engine" ...because that 
was the way to serve production apps to volunteers around the world. It so 
"neat" they never have to think about upgrades. I may change the engine stack 
once in two years

Looks like I will stick with that from now on

BR
 
 Bob Sneidar wrote:

As stated in many prior posts, it's better to keep all your custom settings 
that need to be saved between sessions in a prefs file or a database. Otherwise 
you set yourself up for a lot of support calls trying to deal with user 
permissions and sandboxing both now and in the future.

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