Re: setting file created date in livecode from script
Thanks Richard, I'll check out your suggestion. -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:18 PM Stephen Barncard wrote: > the altering was the filename change - some kind of unique number, and > the created dates were changed as well - for no reason. > -- > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - > mixstream.org > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:15 PM Stephen Barncard > wrote: > >> "1. How does changing the date affect their space quota?" >> The unwanted photo file uploads affected MY space quota on the free >> account, they fill it up, and then they tell you you are near the 'limit' >> and must buy more space. >> When I got my files back, they were altered. It's just dishonest and >> disingenuous. >> >> of course I'm looking for something else but I'd rather not be doing time >> consuming configuring. I have better things to do. >> -- >> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - >> mixstream.org >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:02 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> Stephen Barncard wrote: >>> >>> > Why? because several years ago $@$#$@#$@'ing dropbox, without my >>> > permission, started changing not only filenames but DATES in a huge >>> > swath of precious photos in a particularly dishonest way -- they >>> > wanted my free account to fill up quickly so I'd have to "upgrade". >>> > I know the EXIF tags still exist inside each file, but all the file >>> > dates had been changed to the date of copying. >>> > Dropbox has been increasingly piggish lately - not allowing more than >>> > 3 machines on the free account. >>> > It's a mess. This does not endear me to these greedy people. >>> >>> >>> 1. How does changing the date affect their space quota? >>> >>> >>> 2. Dropbox policies have become too FUBAR for me to spend time with >>> anymore. For example, I have no files in my account, and recently got a >>> notice saying I was out of disk space and needed to pay them for an >>> upgrade. That shouldn't be possible. But it turns out they count files >>> shared with you against both the account where the file originates and >>> yours tool - even though the file exists in only one location. #doubledip >>> >>> >>> 3. This means a really hack to annoy people: just put a really big file >>> in your account and share it with anyone you don't like. Since it'll >>> count against their quota, you've just prevented them from being able to >>> add anything else to their account. #insane >>> >>> >>> 4. You can liberate yourself: https://nextcloud.com/ >>> >>> I met the project founder, Frank Karlitschek, when we had him speak at >>> UbuCon in Pasadena a few years ago. Great guy, great team, all super >>> passionate about free and open source software, and leaving the user in >>> control of their cloud services. >>> >>> More than just file sharing with one of the best sync mechanisms I've >>> ever seen, it also includes many dozens of add-on apps for everything >>> from team management to music streaming to video chat and more. >>> >>> I have a dedicated Nextcloud server in my office for myself, and another >>> on a VPS I use with clients and vendors. With native sync clients for >>> Mac, Windows, and Linux (and iOS, and Android too), my LiveCode Plugins >>> folder is kept current no matter which machine I happen to be working >>> at. And with its convenient versioning, if I mess up and want to revert >>> one of my plugins to yesterday's it's a breeze. >>> >>> Runs on any standard LAMP/WAMP/MAMP server. And if you're using it on >>> Ubuntu 18.04 you can install it one line using the new Snap packager. >>> >>> And you remain in control of everything. >>> >>> Nope, not in any way affiliate with Nextcloud. Just a very happy user. >>> >>> -- >>> Richard Gaskin >>> Fourth World Systems >>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web >>> >>> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: setting file created date in livecode from script
the altering was the filename change - some kind of unique number, and the created dates were changed as well - for no reason. -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:15 PM Stephen Barncard wrote: > "1. How does changing the date affect their space quota?" > The unwanted photo file uploads affected MY space quota on the free > account, they fill it up, and then they tell you you are near the 'limit' > and must buy more space. > When I got my files back, they were altered. It's just dishonest and > disingenuous. > > of course I'm looking for something else but I'd rather not be doing time > consuming configuring. I have better things to do. > -- > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - > mixstream.org > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:02 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Stephen Barncard wrote: >> >> > Why? because several years ago $@$#$@#$@'ing dropbox, without my >> > permission, started changing not only filenames but DATES in a huge >> > swath of precious photos in a particularly dishonest way -- they >> > wanted my free account to fill up quickly so I'd have to "upgrade". >> > I know the EXIF tags still exist inside each file, but all the file >> > dates had been changed to the date of copying. >> > Dropbox has been increasingly piggish lately - not allowing more than >> > 3 machines on the free account. >> > It's a mess. This does not endear me to these greedy people. >> >> >> 1. How does changing the date affect their space quota? >> >> >> 2. Dropbox policies have become too FUBAR for me to spend time with >> anymore. For example, I have no files in my account, and recently got a >> notice saying I was out of disk space and needed to pay them for an >> upgrade. That shouldn't be possible. But it turns out they count files >> shared with you against both the account where the file originates and >> yours tool - even though the file exists in only one location. #doubledip >> >> >> 3. This means a really hack to annoy people: just put a really big file >> in your account and share it with anyone you don't like. Since it'll >> count against their quota, you've just prevented them from being able to >> add anything else to their account. #insane >> >> >> 4. You can liberate yourself: https://nextcloud.com/ >> >> I met the project founder, Frank Karlitschek, when we had him speak at >> UbuCon in Pasadena a few years ago. Great guy, great team, all super >> passionate about free and open source software, and leaving the user in >> control of their cloud services. >> >> More than just file sharing with one of the best sync mechanisms I've >> ever seen, it also includes many dozens of add-on apps for everything >> from team management to music streaming to video chat and more. >> >> I have a dedicated Nextcloud server in my office for myself, and another >> on a VPS I use with clients and vendors. With native sync clients for >> Mac, Windows, and Linux (and iOS, and Android too), my LiveCode Plugins >> folder is kept current no matter which machine I happen to be working >> at. And with its convenient versioning, if I mess up and want to revert >> one of my plugins to yesterday's it's a breeze. >> >> Runs on any standard LAMP/WAMP/MAMP server. And if you're using it on >> Ubuntu 18.04 you can install it one line using the new Snap packager. >> >> And you remain in control of everything. >> >> Nope, not in any way affiliate with Nextcloud. Just a very happy user. >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems >> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web >> >> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: setting file created date in livecode from script
"1. How does changing the date affect their space quota?" The unwanted photo file uploads affected MY space quota on the free account, they fill it up, and then they tell you you are near the 'limit' and must buy more space. When I got my files back, they were altered. It's just dishonest and disingenuous. of course I'm looking for something else but I'd rather not be doing time consuming configuring. I have better things to do. -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:02 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Stephen Barncard wrote: > > > Why? because several years ago $@$#$@#$@'ing dropbox, without my > > permission, started changing not only filenames but DATES in a huge > > swath of precious photos in a particularly dishonest way -- they > > wanted my free account to fill up quickly so I'd have to "upgrade". > > I know the EXIF tags still exist inside each file, but all the file > > dates had been changed to the date of copying. > > Dropbox has been increasingly piggish lately - not allowing more than > > 3 machines on the free account. > > It's a mess. This does not endear me to these greedy people. > > > 1. How does changing the date affect their space quota? > > > 2. Dropbox policies have become too FUBAR for me to spend time with > anymore. For example, I have no files in my account, and recently got a > notice saying I was out of disk space and needed to pay them for an > upgrade. That shouldn't be possible. But it turns out they count files > shared with you against both the account where the file originates and > yours tool - even though the file exists in only one location. #doubledip > > > 3. This means a really hack to annoy people: just put a really big file > in your account and share it with anyone you don't like. Since it'll > count against their quota, you've just prevented them from being able to > add anything else to their account. #insane > > > 4. You can liberate yourself: https://nextcloud.com/ > > I met the project founder, Frank Karlitschek, when we had him speak at > UbuCon in Pasadena a few years ago. Great guy, great team, all super > passionate about free and open source software, and leaving the user in > control of their cloud services. > > More than just file sharing with one of the best sync mechanisms I've > ever seen, it also includes many dozens of add-on apps for everything > from team management to music streaming to video chat and more. > > I have a dedicated Nextcloud server in my office for myself, and another > on a VPS I use with clients and vendors. With native sync clients for > Mac, Windows, and Linux (and iOS, and Android too), my LiveCode Plugins > folder is kept current no matter which machine I happen to be working > at. And with its convenient versioning, if I mess up and want to revert > one of my plugins to yesterday's it's a breeze. > > Runs on any standard LAMP/WAMP/MAMP server. And if you're using it on > Ubuntu 18.04 you can install it one line using the new Snap packager. > > And you remain in control of everything. > > Nope, not in any way affiliate with Nextcloud. Just a very happy user. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: setting file created date in livecode from script
Stephen Barncard wrote: > Why? because several years ago $@$#$@#$@'ing dropbox, without my > permission, started changing not only filenames but DATES in a huge > swath of precious photos in a particularly dishonest way -- they > wanted my free account to fill up quickly so I'd have to "upgrade". > I know the EXIF tags still exist inside each file, but all the file > dates had been changed to the date of copying. > Dropbox has been increasingly piggish lately - not allowing more than > 3 machines on the free account. > It's a mess. This does not endear me to these greedy people. 1. How does changing the date affect their space quota? 2. Dropbox policies have become too FUBAR for me to spend time with anymore. For example, I have no files in my account, and recently got a notice saying I was out of disk space and needed to pay them for an upgrade. That shouldn't be possible. But it turns out they count files shared with you against both the account where the file originates and yours tool - even though the file exists in only one location. #doubledip 3. This means a really hack to annoy people: just put a really big file in your account and share it with anyone you don't like. Since it'll count against their quota, you've just prevented them from being able to add anything else to their account. #insane 4. You can liberate yourself: https://nextcloud.com/ I met the project founder, Frank Karlitschek, when we had him speak at UbuCon in Pasadena a few years ago. Great guy, great team, all super passionate about free and open source software, and leaving the user in control of their cloud services. More than just file sharing with one of the best sync mechanisms I've ever seen, it also includes many dozens of add-on apps for everything from team management to music streaming to video chat and more. I have a dedicated Nextcloud server in my office for myself, and another on a VPS I use with clients and vendors. With native sync clients for Mac, Windows, and Linux (and iOS, and Android too), my LiveCode Plugins folder is kept current no matter which machine I happen to be working at. And with its convenient versioning, if I mess up and want to revert one of my plugins to yesterday's it's a breeze. Runs on any standard LAMP/WAMP/MAMP server. And if you're using it on Ubuntu 18.04 you can install it one line using the new Snap packager. And you remain in control of everything. Nope, not in any way affiliate with Nextcloud. Just a very happy user. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: setting file created date in livecode from script
On 14/04/2019 22:36, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote: I have to write a custom handler to deal with this - there's no app that can do this - I don't think. I know you found the way to write the custom handler, using 'shell + touch'. But if you want to just use an existing app, exiftool can do this ... |exiftool -r '-DateTimeOriginal>FileModifyDate' directoryname| -- Alex. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: setting file created date in livecode from script
answering my own question: TOUCH looks like what I want... gotta love BSD Unix... NAME touch -- change file access and modification times SYNOPSIS touch [-A [-][[hh]mm]SS] [-acfhm] [-r file] [-t [[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.SS]] file ... DESCRIPTION The touch utility sets the modification and access times of files. If any file does not exist, it is created with default permissions. By default, touch changes both modification and access times. The -a and -m flags may be used to select the access time or the modification time individually. Selecting both is equivalent to the default. By default, the timestamps are set to the current time. The -t flag explicitly spec- ifies a different time, and the -r flag specifies to set the times those of the specified file. The -A flag adjusts the values by a specified amount. . full definition can be had by typing MAN TOUCH I hope others can use this knowledge..sorry to raise the alarm. I'm off to write a handler, which I'll post later if anyone is interested Now I've got to find those EXIF routines, they're around somewhere thanks , self this is the kind of stuff that LC is so good for... -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 2:36 PM Stephen Barncard wrote: > Hi Gang, > > I thought file date change had been a part of livecode for years, but I > can't find anything in the docs about setting the created or modified dates > in files. > I need to do this on the Mac desktop. > > Why? because several years ago $@$#$@#$@'ing dropbox, without my > permission, started changing not only filenames but DATES in a huge swath > of precious photos in a particularly dishonest way -- they wanted my free > account to fill up quickly so I'd have to "upgrade". > I know the EXIF tags still exist inside each file, but all the file dates > had been changed to the date of copying. > Dropbox has been increasingly piggish lately - not allowing more than 3 > machines on the free account. > It's a mess. This does not endear me to these greedy people. > > I have to write a custom handler to deal with this - there's no app that > can do this - I don't think. > > perhaps there's something I can call from the shell - I'd be good with > that. > > Anyone have an idea? Thanks in advance. > > sqb > -- > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - > mixstream.org > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
setting file created date in livecode from script
Hi Gang, I thought file date change had been a part of livecode for years, but I can't find anything in the docs about setting the created or modified dates in files. I need to do this on the Mac desktop. Why? because several years ago $@$#$@#$@'ing dropbox, without my permission, started changing not only filenames but DATES in a huge swath of precious photos in a particularly dishonest way -- they wanted my free account to fill up quickly so I'd have to "upgrade". I know the EXIF tags still exist inside each file, but all the file dates had been changed to the date of copying. Dropbox has been increasingly piggish lately - not allowing more than 3 machines on the free account. It's a mess. This does not endear me to these greedy people. I have to write a custom handler to deal with this - there's no app that can do this - I don't think. perhaps there's something I can call from the shell - I'd be good with that. Anyone have an idea? Thanks in advance. sqb -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
