RE: A problem with RunRev email account "sage.on-rev.com"

2019-05-27 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
This smells like the early internet when SMTP servers were all open. There was 
a black list called ORBS that listed you if you did not comply and lock down 
your SMTP server. They stated that they couldn't be successfully sued and if 
you tried they threatened to leave you on the black list forever. Different but 
the same.

I have no tolerance for spammers/hackers. White collar crime should be 
prosecuted and penalties should be draconian so the rest of us don't caught up 
in the net of scatter-shot lockdowns.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Subject: Re: A problem with RunRev email account "sage.on-rev.com"

Robert J. Earp wrote:

> Jim,
> I’ve had this before with other accounts, albeit not run-rev.  It’s 
> always a problem with the server thinking I’m sending spam when 
> eMailing to many addresses.  Even if you get the IP address removed 
> from a blacklist you run the risk of it getting put on again without 
> any notification.  I suggest you use MailChimp, it’s free and works 
> like a charm.

Or get a dedicated IP for your mail server, or become a mail admin and set up 
your own system for handling mail, or

The other solution is to shut down vigilantism.

Collective punishment is recognized by the Universal Declaration of Human 
Rights as flat-out wrong.  Why do we tolerate it in cyberspace with spam 
vigilantes?

I respect the difficulty of fighting spam, but knocking hundreds of legitimate 
accounts offline because one user of a machine is criminal is like shooting up 
a an entire neighborhood of families to get one bank robber.

I've tried contacting some of the vigilante spam fighters to get white listed, 
with varying results. Many respond to such requests with a presumption of 
guilt, making it not only unnecessarily difficult to resolve the issue, but 
just plain rude as well.

IP whitelisting must be made simple and straightforward.  Vigilantes should 
recognize that it's far better to let a spammer slip through the prevention 
system than to risk preventing legitimate people from conducting their business 
through email.

But they don't.

So we need to take away their ropes and their hangin' trees, and turn their 
zeal down a few notches to rejoin a fair and just society.

- rg/4w


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Re: A problem with RunRev email account "sage.on-rev.com"

2019-05-27 Thread ambassador--- via use-livecode

Robert J. Earp wrote:


Jim,
I’ve had this before with other accounts, albeit not run-rev.  It’s 
always
a problem with the server thinking I’m sending spam when eMailing to 
many
addresses.  Even if you get the IP address removed from a blacklist you 
run
the risk of it getting put on again without any notification.  I 
suggest

you use MailChimp, it’s free and works like a charm.


Or get a dedicated IP for your mail server, or become a mail admin and 
set up your own system for handling mail, or


The other solution is to shut down vigilantism.

Collective punishment is recognized by the Universal Declaration of 
Human Rights as flat-out wrong.  Why do we tolerate it in cyberspace 
with spam vigilantes?


I respect the difficulty of fighting spam, but knocking hundreds of 
legitimate accounts offline because one user of a machine is criminal is 
like shooting up a an entire neighborhood of families to get one bank 
robber.


I've tried contacting some of the vigilante spam fighters to get white 
listed, with varying results. Many respond to such requests with a 
presumption of guilt, making it not only unnecessarily difficult to 
resolve the issue, but just plain rude as well.


IP whitelisting must be made simple and straightforward.  Vigilantes 
should recognize that it's far better to let a spammer slip through the 
prevention system than to risk preventing legitimate people from 
conducting their business through email.


But they don't.

So we need to take away their ropes and their hangin' trees, and turn 
their zeal down a few notches to rejoin a fair and just society.


- rg/4w


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How to hide LC menubar without losing the icon on the windows taskbar?

2019-05-27 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
I enjoy using Devolution and since my machine has 10'' I'd like to hide 
the menubar to free up some real estate but if I use the feature from 
Devolution to hide the LC menubar I end up losing the application icon 
on Windows 10 task bar which makes it really hard to switch between apps 
on the machine.


So my question to you all is: "how to we enable a plugin to take over 
the IDE and keep the application icon there?"



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Re: Setting mobile scroller hScroll fails

2019-05-27 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Something similair with 2 fields, of which one did scroll (vertical) and 
the other not, Although the script for both was the same except for some 
naming to distinguish them.


Did not have time to upon it further.

(on Android)

Op 27-5-2019 om 00:03 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:

I want to verify this is a bug and not just me.

I'm creating a mobile scroller over a group. I want the group to 
initially display with its hScroll all the way to the right. I'm doing 
this:


zoom the group out to fill the screen
create a mobile scroller with the same rect
set the hScroll of the group to its formattedWidth
set the hScroll of the scroller to the scroll of the group

If I insert an answer command to show the scroller's hScroll it 
reports the correct number. But the scroller always acts like its 
scroll is 0, and it won't scroll to the left at all. But scrolling it 
to the right zaps both it and the group to zero and after that it 
scrolls normally.


I've also tried not setting the group's scroll and just setting the 
scroller alone, thinking it might trigger the scrollerDidScroll 
handler, but it doesn't.


If I don't set any hScroll at all on either the group or the scroller, 
all is well.


Has anyone else seen this?



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Re: A problem with RunRev email account "sage.on-rev.com"

2019-05-27 Thread Robert J. Earp via use-livecode
Jim,
I’ve had this before with other accounts, albeit not run-rev.  It’s always a 
problem with the server thinking I’m sending spam when eMailing to many 
addresses.  Even if you get the IP address removed from a blacklist you run the 
risk of it getting put on again without any notification.  I suggest you use 
MailChimp, it’s free and works like a charm.

best, Bob...



> Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 08:24:16 -0700
> From: James Hurley  >
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
> Subject: A problem with RunRev email account "sage.on-rev.com 
> "
> Message-ID: <35c33644-07f5-48df-9ac4-3809f326c...@sbcglobal.net 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> I have an email account with RunRev: @sage.on-rev.com
> 
> It has worked flawlessly for many years, but for several weeks now all email 
> sent from this account to Microsoft addresses (for example, Hotmail and MSN) 
> have bounced. (All addresses on my list, other than the MS addresses, go 
> through without a problem.)
> 
> I have reported this problem and Robin at RunRev is working on a resolution, 
> but without success. 
> 
> Is there a chance that anyone else on this list has found a workaround?
> 
> Thanks, Jim Hurley
> 
> P.S. I have other email accounts, the above ?@sbcglobal,.com? for example, 
> but only @sage.on-rev.com  allows more than 100 email recipients at a time.
> 
> This is something of an emergency for us. We, i.e. my neighborhood 
> association, is attempting to deal with the wildfire threat here in rural 
> California. So getting the word out to these MS email accounts in our 
> neighborhood association is important.
> 
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