Re: Empty error dialogs

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

The stack is, in fact, password protected. But we get other error 
reports where the info is filled in, which is more usual. Weird.


On 6/18/19 1:24 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:

I've seen the "empty error dialog" on password protected stacks.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:02 PM
To: LiveCode Mailing List
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Empty error dialogs

Some users are getting empty script error dialogs in a standalone. The
errors are infrequent, sporadic, always in different places in the app, not
repeatable. When they happen, the user can repeat their last action and it
works without error. We get these reports because the standalone has error
reporting turned on.

An example:

Object: field 'XXX' of card 'YYY' of stack 'ZZZ'

Line:

Line Num:

Hint:

The identified object and card is always different. I should mention that
the current desktop app was built in a much older version of LC.

I assume the lack of reference info is because the script couldn't compile,
but then why only sometimes and never on a second try? I also assumed the
error(s) were in a LC library, mostly because if it were my own scripts I'd
think there would be more information.

This is mostly a curiosity question since no real harm is done to the user
data.




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Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I see this regularly and have for a long time. Not sure what causes it. Seems 
to go away if I close and re-open the script editor. 

Bob S


> On Jun 18, 2019, at 08:41 , Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> A hint for bounty hunters:
> It seems to me I have seen this outside of LiveCode. Perhaps the bug is a 
> common one.
> I'm on a Mac.
> 
> I don't trust my memory; YMMD.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 5:38 PM, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Over at LiveCode Quality Control Centre (QCC) there is a Bug 20240 has been a
>> problem for me lately. 
>> 
>> I understand that a significant effort has been put into finding a fix over 
>> the
>> past years, but without success. The problem behaviour has been reported 
>> before,
>> my report is simply the latest one. And since it cannot be reproduced on 
>> demand
>> it is a tough one to solve.
>> 
>> There is a video of it at QCC at that shows what happens, if you have not 
>> come
>> across it yourself.
>> 
>> To encourage more eyes to look at the code, I have put up a bounty of 
>> $1,000AUD
>> to the individual who resolves the problem with a fix.
>> 
>> More details are in the bug report here:
>> 
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20240
>> 
>> If you have any questions about the bug, or the bounty, I can answer them 
>> here.
>> 
>> Note it is only Australian dollars, but depending on the exchange rate, or 
>> where
>> you live that might be a bonus?
>> 
>> Good luck! And I really hope to be able to reward someone with this money!
>> --
>> Scott McDonald
>> http://thelivecodelab.com/
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RE: PlayStore and Tablets

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Just got this today... API 28 will be required for new apps on 8/1/2019 and
updated app by 8/1/2019. Message from Google Play below. QCC 22194
submitted.


Warnings
Your app currently targets API level 26 and must target at least API level
28 to ensure it is built on the latest APIs optimized for security and
performance.

>From August 2019, new apps must target at least Android 9.0 (API level 28).
>From November 2019, app updates must target Android 9.0 (API level 28).

Tip: Change your app's target API level. Learn how.
-

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 1:09 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: PlayStore and Tablets

I see that on almost every app I download on my tablet. It started right
around the time Google started requiring the target version to be 26 so I
assumed it had to do with that.

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http://www.hyperactivesw.com On June 14, 2019 11:30:06 AM Ralph DiMola via
use-livecode  wrote:

> When I access the page of my app in Google Play using a tablet I get 
> the following message: "This app may not be optimized for your device" in
red.
> My app resizes to use all of a tablet's real-estate. I uploaded tablet 
> screenshots and use an icon of "xxxhdpi" size.
>
> Does anyone know how to solve this?
> Thanks!
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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RE: Empty error dialogs

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I've seen the "empty error dialog" on password protected stacks.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:02 PM
To: LiveCode Mailing List
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Empty error dialogs

Some users are getting empty script error dialogs in a standalone. The
errors are infrequent, sporadic, always in different places in the app, not
repeatable. When they happen, the user can repeat their last action and it
works without error. We get these reports because the standalone has error
reporting turned on.

An example:

Object: field 'XXX' of card 'YYY' of stack 'ZZZ'

Line:

Line Num:

Hint:

The identified object and card is always different. I should mention that
the current desktop app was built in a much older version of LC.

I assume the lack of reference info is because the script couldn't compile,
but then why only sometimes and never on a second try? I also assumed the
error(s) were in a LC library, mostly because if it were my own scripts I'd
think there would be more information.

This is mostly a curiosity question since no real harm is done to the user
data.

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Empty error dialogs

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Some users are getting empty script error dialogs in a standalone. The 
errors are infrequent, sporadic, always in different places in the app, 
not repeatable. When they happen, the user can repeat their last action 
and it works without error. We get these reports because the standalone 
has error reporting turned on.


An example:

Object: field 'XXX' of card 'YYY' of stack 'ZZZ'

Line:

Line Num:

Hint:

The identified object and card is always different. I should mention 
that the current desktop app was built in a much older version of LC.


I assume the lack of reference info is because the script couldn't 
compile, but then why only sometimes and never on a second try? I also 
assumed the error(s) were in a LC library, mostly because if it were my 
own scripts I'd think there would be more information.


This is mostly a curiosity question since no real harm is done to the 
user data.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: Using community to update text of a project distributed with Indy license?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Curt Ford wrote:
A client needs to make minor updates to the text in a number of modules 
I've created over several years. To eliminate the back-and-forth of 
corrections and proofs, he's asked about making the changes himself in 
LiveCode. (He's never used LiveCode and doesn't have a copy.)


Simple to do technically, but beyond the GPL implications it's also 
perhaps a bit cumbersome in terms of usability.


LC is a good software development environment, but perhaps a bit much 
for simple text editing.


I wonder if another option might be to make an Editor app which opens 
the stack and unlocks the fields for editing, and then locks them again 
before saving.


With many of my clients we build custom authoring environments in 
addition to the delivery environment for the end-user, and the modest 
up-front investment almost always pays off very well over the life cycle 
of what we're building together.


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Re: Using community to update text of a project distributed with Indy license?

[Lagi Pittas via use-livecode]

What about community plus - or is that not a perpetual licence either?

Lagi

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 17:15, Curt Ford via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Dear Heather,
>
> Thanks for the clarification. This is the answer I'd basically expected,
> but it'll be easier for me to steer the client in a different direction
> with the official word from you at LiveCode, so this is helpful.
>
> (They had originally suggested using Splashtop to try and make the
> updates on my machine remotely, but I *really* don't want to go there...!)
>
> all best
>
> Curt
>
>
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Using community to update text of a project distributed with Indy license?

[Curt Ford via use-livecode]

Dear Heather,

Thanks for the clarification. This is the answer I'd basically expected, 
but it'll be easier for me to steer the client in a different direction 
with the official word from you at LiveCode, so this is helpful.


(They had originally suggested using Splashtop to try and make the 
updates on my machine remotely, but I *really* don't want to go there...!)


all best

Curt


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Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

[dsc--- via use-livecode]

Whoops. That is a couple years old. I need to get my coffee.


> On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:41 AM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> A hint for bounty hunters:
> It seems to me I have seen this outside of LiveCode. Perhaps the bug is a 
> common one.
> I'm on a Mac.
> 
> I don't trust my memory; YMMD.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 5:38 PM, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Over at LiveCode Quality Control Centre (QCC) there is a Bug 20240 has been a
>> problem for me lately. 
>> 
>> I understand that a significant effort has been put into finding a fix over 
>> the
>> past years, but without success. The problem behaviour has been reported 
>> before,
>> my report is simply the latest one. And since it cannot be reproduced on 
>> demand
>> it is a tough one to solve.
>> 
>> There is a video of it at QCC at that shows what happens, if you have not 
>> come
>> across it yourself.
>> 
>> To encourage more eyes to look at the code, I have put up a bounty of 
>> $1,000AUD
>> to the individual who resolves the problem with a fix.
>> 
>> More details are in the bug report here:
>> 
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20240
>> 
>> If you have any questions about the bug, or the bounty, I can answer them 
>> here.
>> 
>> Note it is only Australian dollars, but depending on the exchange rate, or 
>> where
>> you live that might be a bonus?
>> 
>> Good luck! And I really hope to be able to reward someone with this money!
>> --
>> Scott McDonald
>> http://thelivecodelab.com/
>> 
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Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

[Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode]

A hint for bounty hunters:
It seems to me I have seen this outside of LiveCode. Perhaps the bug is a 
common one.
I'm on a Mac.

I don't trust my memory; YMMD.



> On Aug 14, 2017, at 5:38 PM, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Over at LiveCode Quality Control Centre (QCC) there is a Bug 20240 has been a
> problem for me lately. 
>  
> I understand that a significant effort has been put into finding a fix over 
> the
> past years, but without success. The problem behaviour has been reported 
> before,
> my report is simply the latest one. And since it cannot be reproduced on 
> demand
> it is a tough one to solve.
>  
> There is a video of it at QCC at that shows what happens, if you have not come
> across it yourself.
>  
> To encourage more eyes to look at the code, I have put up a bounty of 
> $1,000AUD
> to the individual who resolves the problem with a fix.
>  
> More details are in the bug report here:
>  
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20240
>  
> If you have any questions about the bug, or the bounty, I can answer them 
> here.
>  
> Note it is only Australian dollars, but depending on the exchange rate, or 
> where
> you live that might be a bonus?
>  
> Good luck! And I really hope to be able to reward someone with this money!
> --
> Scott McDonald
> http://thelivecodelab.com/
> 
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Re: dragData["private"] is not Unicode aware

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 6/18/2019 9:01 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 6:28 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I should learn how to contribute to updating documentation myself, but I
have tried setting up GIT on Windows twice without success (obviously I
am doing something basic wrong).


The good news is that you don’t have to set up Git to contribute. The “This
Week In LiveCode” newsletter has links to video instructions on how to
contribute to the docs using your web browser. Scroll down to the bottom of
the following page and you will see links to them along with doc entries
that need updating:

https://livecode.github.io/this-week-in-livecode/issue/2019/06/17/this-week-in-livecode-182.html


Thank you Trevor!

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7109

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Re: dragData["private"] is not Unicode aware

[Trevor DeVore via use-livecode]

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 6:28 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> I should learn how to contribute to updating documentation myself, but I
> have tried setting up GIT on Windows twice without success (obviously I
> am doing something basic wrong).


The good news is that you don’t have to set up Git to contribute. The “This
Week In LiveCode” newsletter has links to video instructions on how to
contribute to the docs using your web browser. Scroll down to the bottom of
the following page and you will see links to them along with doc entries
that need updating:

https://livecode.github.io/this-week-in-livecode/issue/2019/06/17/this-week-in-livecode-182.html

-- 
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Re: dragData["private"] is not Unicode aware

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 6/18/2019 3:29 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

On 2019-06-17 22:09, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

Folks (those who may have an interest at least):

I just filed a bug: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22192

Does this ("Private" NOT Unicode aware) seem like a Feature or a Bug?


This is a documentation bug really - you can only store binary data in 
the

private key of the clipboard/dragboard (these things only store binary
data internally for all things).

So you need to textEncode/textDecode strings, and arrayEncode/Decode 
arrays

if you want to store either of those things there.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.



Thanks for the clarification Mark. I'm fine with treating it as binary 
and encoding/decoding my data as needed to keep it private and usable in 
our app. I would be nice to have that in the dragData dictionary entry 
whenever the docs can be updated.


I should learn how to contribute to updating documentation myself, but I 
have tried setting up GIT on Windows twice without success (obviously I 
am doing something basic wrong).



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Re: Using community to update text of a project distributed with Indy license?

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

Dear Curt,

Thanks for asking. This would be prohibited by this clause in your EULA:

"f) Any Created Software built with this Licensed Edition is fully functional 
and allows users full access to the entire LiveCode feature set. Where the 
Created Software is a standalone executable, the end user of the Created 
Software cannot edit scripts or build their own standalones without purchasing 
or owning a Licensed Edition. You may not attempt to get around any of these 
limitations or encourage users of your Created Software to attempt to do so."

Essentially, our licensing does not allow you to act as a standalone building 
service for a Community user, for fairly obvious reasons. 

Also, if your end user opens your stacks in Community, edits them, and shares 
them with you, he is then obliged to also share your source code with the 
world. Which I'm guessing you would not want.

So, if he wants to edit your closed source stacks, he's going to need a license 
of his own. I'll be happy to discuss this further with you if you email 
supp...@livecode.com , but I thought it might be 
helpful to clarify this licensing point on the list :)

Best Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



> On 18 Jun 2019, at 00:01, Curt Ford via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> A client needs to make minor updates to the text in a number of modules I've 
> created over several years. To eliminate the back-and-forth of corrections 
> and proofs, he's asked about making the changes himself in LiveCode. (He's 
> never used LiveCode and doesn't have a copy.)
> 
> The question has arisen whether this would be possible if he downloads the 
> free community version of LiveCode, opens the files I've created with my 
> licensed copy of LiveCode, updates the texts, then sends me the files to 
> package them up.
> 
> Another option was for the client to use the community version to create the 
> text in text fields in a 'dummy' stack, from which I'd copy the updated text 
> into the existing modules of my copy with the Indy license.
> 
> I've looked at the FAQ at
> 
> https://livecode.com/docs/9-0-4/faq/faq/#what-are-the-system-requirements-for-livecode
> 
> but I'm not quite clear on whether this would be allowed under the terms of 
> the license or not.
> 
> Even if it's not, I'm not sure they'll want to get into this once they see 
> what's involved, but I told them I'd look into it.
> 
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Re: dragData["private"] is not Unicode aware

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2019-06-17 22:09, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

Folks (those who may have an interest at least):

I just filed a bug: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22192

Does this ("Private" NOT Unicode aware) seem like a Feature or a Bug?


This is a documentation bug really - you can only store binary data in 
the

private key of the clipboard/dragboard (these things only store binary
data internally for all things).

So you need to textEncode/textDecode strings, and arrayEncode/Decode 
arrays

if you want to store either of those things there.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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