Re: mobileSetKeyboardDisplay

2019-07-22 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
Could you open a report about the issue with an example stack please.

Thanks

Monte

> On 23 Jul 2019, at 1:01 pm, Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> First, may I say that mobileSetKeyboardDisplay is a beautiful thing!  This is 
> a game-changer in working with data in mobile apps.  My applause!  My hat's 
> off!  Now, with that said...
> 
> It's not working right.  The first time you open a native field with 
> mobileSetKeyboardDisplay set to "pan", it works perfect!  The second time 
> however, it doesn’t scroll down far enough.  I presume this is related to the 
> same issue that we have with the effective working screenRect.   The first 
> time you call this, and the soft keyboard is open, you get the correct rect.  
> The second time you request it, you get an incorrect rect.  I have always 
> just saved the first pass at it and used that from then on.   But, don't have 
> the option with mobileSetKeyboardDisplay.  Can we get this fixed??   
> Please
> 
> -Dan
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mobileSetKeyboardDisplay

2019-07-22 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
First, may I say that mobileSetKeyboardDisplay is a beautiful thing!  This is a 
game-changer in working with data in mobile apps.  My applause!  My hat's off!  
Now, with that said...

It's not working right.  The first time you open a native field with 
mobileSetKeyboardDisplay set to "pan", it works perfect!  The second time 
however, it doesn’t scroll down far enough.  I presume this is related to the 
same issue that we have with the effective working screenRect.   The first time 
you call this, and the soft keyboard is open, you get the correct rect.  The 
second time you request it, you get an incorrect rect.  I have always just 
saved the first pass at it and used that from then on.   But, don't have the 
option with mobileSetKeyboardDisplay.  Can we get this fixed??   Please

-Dan

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Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 186

2019-07-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Only two contributors this week. Where is everyone?

Sean Cole
*Pi*
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[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 186

2019-07-22 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all,

Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source
community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter!

Read issue #186 here: http://bit.ly/2LzYKE0

This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been
going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be
released weekly on Mondays. We have a dedicated mailing list that will
deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any!

If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion
somewhere, an upcoming event) then please get in touch.


-- 
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Re: Rocky islands

2019-07-22 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
In trying to take a positive view on this...

Voice command and Sidecar might make it easier to step aside in a demo or 
presentation.  

Sidecar might be handy as a sketch input. Maybe. You know, like an alternative 
mouse.

Sidecar might be a handy place to put the Message Box or a debug window.

Screen Time might be handy for those of us who feel we goof off too much. (I 
use Qbserve for time management.)

Color filter options can help those with color vision deficiencies and help 
others see problem colors on a broader context. 

The Notes enhancements look interesting. (I am readying for an electronic lab 
notebook, but Notes might delay that; I'll try it.)

Being able to run some iOS apps on the Mac is cool, but I wish it could run 
all, transparently. It is frustrating to find just the right app and, oh, it is 
iOS only.

Isolating the system from stuff I try is cool. 

Metal!


However, crowd-sourced Bluetooth locating is scary. 

And the first time to run an app can take a while, it seems, but maybe that is 
really a good thing.



> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like you are inferring a lot more into that PR fluff piece than is 
> warranted. I didn't see anywhere in the statement the word, "only". Are you 
> saying that Catalina will ONLY do those things listed in the statement, and 
> nothing else? That seems extreme to me. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 14:31 , Richmond via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> "macOS Catalina gives you more of everything you love about Mac. Experience 
>> music, TV, and podcasts in three all-new Mac apps. Enjoy your favorite iPad 
>> apps now on your Mac. Extend your workspace and expand your creativity with 
>> iPad and Apple Pencil. And discover smart new features in the apps you use 
>> every day. Now you can take everything you do above and beyond."
>> 
>> Wow: I can translate that into far, far easier language:
>> 
>> macOS Catalina gives you more of a plastic bathtoy; an extended gramophone 
>> player, TV, fancy telephone and pornogram, and less of what I was brought up 
>> to believe a computer really should be.
>> 
>> Mind you, the "mene, mene, tekel, up-yours!" was there for all to see when 
>> Steve Jobs killed off Hypercard.
>> 
>> "Enjoy" . . . Cor! John Calvin was right.
>> 
>> Love, Richmond.
> 
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Re: Rocky islands

2019-07-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sounds like you are inferring a lot more into that PR fluff piece than is 
warranted. I didn't see anywhere in the statement the word, "only". Are you 
saying that Catalina will ONLY do those things listed in the statement, and 
nothing else? That seems extreme to me. 

Bob S


> On Jul 21, 2019, at 14:31 , Richmond via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> "macOS Catalina gives you more of everything you love about Mac. Experience 
> music, TV, and podcasts in three all-new Mac apps. Enjoy your favorite iPad 
> apps now on your Mac. Extend your workspace and expand your creativity with 
> iPad and Apple Pencil. And discover smart new features in the apps you use 
> every day. Now you can take everything you do above and beyond."
> 
> Wow: I can translate that into far, far easier language:
> 
> macOS Catalina gives you more of a plastic bathtoy; an extended gramophone 
> player, TV, fancy telephone and pornogram, and less of what I was brought up 
> to believe a computer really should be.
> 
> Mind you, the "mene, mene, tekel, up-yours!" was there for all to see when 
> Steve Jobs killed off Hypercard.
> 
> "Enjoy" . . . Cor! John Calvin was right.
> 
> Love, Richmond.


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Unicode languages and text selection...

2019-07-22 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
In moving a commercial application that allows researchers to perform a 
lot of textual analysis  from LC6.7.11 to LC9.0.x, we have been trying 
to make sure we take advantage of "Unicode Everywhere".


In do in so, we test with text in as many different languages 
(representative of different glyphs/alphabets and sets of Right-To-Left 
(RTL) and LTR languages). We certainly do NOT have staff that know even 
a fraction of the languages. We craft test content using Google 
Translate. In doing this, we have discovered and reported a few long 
standing Unicode related bugs in the current release of LiveCode, some 
going back to LC7.Some examples:


https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22249
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22213
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22202

 I trust that all will eventually get fixed, hopefully sooner rather 
than later. We have now seen another oddity that we can not figure out 
if it is an intentional behavior of certain languages in Unicode or a bug.


 In certain languages in fields, Arabic for example, when we select 
portions of the text in a field, certain glyphs and even words seem to 
change. Not knowing the language, we can't be sure. Has anyone else seen 
this odd behavior in any language (seems to appear more in RTL 
languages) and is it a characteristic of Unicode for some languages or 
some sort of bug?


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Re: looking for 3 or 5 testers for my Notarizing stack

2019-07-22 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Two factor authentication. This can be enabled for your AppleID at 
https://appleid.apple.com 


Matthias Rebbe

free tools for Livecoders:
InstaMaker 
WinSignMaker Mac 

> Am 22.07.2019 um 14:43 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 7/22/2019 8:24 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> To test you´ll need to be a member of Apple´s developer program, a valid 
>> Developer ID Application certificate, an AppleID with 2FA and a app-specific 
>> password.
>> 
> What is "2FA"?
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Re: looking for 3 or 5 testers for my Notarizing stack

2019-07-22 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode

On 7/22/2019 8:24 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

To test you´ll need to be a member of Apple´s developer program, a valid 
Developer ID Application certificate, an AppleID with 2FA and a app-specific 
password.


What is "2FA"?

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looking for 3 or 5 testers for my Notarizing stack

2019-07-22 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Hi,

as already posted some days ago i ´ve published a Livecode lesson about 
codesgigning/notarizing app/dmg for distribution outside the Appstore. The 
lesson also included a stack which does the all steps except Notarizating and 
Stapling.

I have now added also Notarizing and Stapling functions to the stack. So with 
it  it is possible to do all necessary steps automatically without any user 
interaction.

Before i update my lesson and add the stack  it would be good if 3 or 4 users 
could test it before. I´ve notarized so far 7 different standalones without a 
problem, but would like to make sure that others can use it also without 
problems. 

If you would like to test the stack, please send me a pm tomatthias (at) 
m-r-d.de .

To test you´ll need to be a member of Apple´s developer program, a valid 
Developer ID Application certificate, an AppleID with 2FA and a app-specific 
password.


Regards,

Matthias




Matthias Rebbe

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Re: Rocky islands

2019-07-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
That is obviously the last hurrah of the Macintosh as a computer qua
computer rather than a bijou entertainment and communication device.
Sinking, sinking, sinking.

I'll stick with Mojave as have nothing entertaining to produce: unless you
find typing in dead Indian languages fun; at which point I pity you.

Love, Richmond.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 2:24 AM Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> CRAP. Be Afraid. Be very very Afraid.
>
> I just went through hours of hell trying to get my desktop and documents
> back together after trying to NOT use iCloud. Good thing I backed up
> everything, but still had to reinstall the system.
>
> And I haven't had the courage to go beyond High Sierra.
>
> My 2010 power probably can't run  ... what's the name again? Catalina.
>
> at least it's a cat.
>
> har har.
>
> Now on to try and find a replacement for Siri.
> she only gets way in the way these days.. It's all or nothing at all and
> I'm tired of yelling at my phone.
> --
> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> mixstream.org
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 2:31 PM Richmond via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > "macOS Catalina gives you more of everything you love about
> > Mac. Experience music, TV, and podcasts in three all-new Mac apps. Enjoy
> > your favorite iPad apps now on your Mac. Extend your workspace and
> > expand your creativity with iPad and Apple Pencil. And discover smart
> > new features in the apps you use every day. Now you can take everything
> > you do above and beyond."
> >
> > Wow: I can translate that into far, far easier language:
> >
> > macOS Catalina gives you more of a plastic bathtoy; an extended
> > gramophone player, TV, fancy telephone and pornogram, and less of what I
> > was brought up to believe a computer really should be.
> >
> > Mind you, the "mene, mene, tekel, up-yours!" was there for all to see
> > when Steve Jobs killed off Hypercard.
> >
> > "Enjoy" . . . Cor! John Calvin was right.
> >
> > Love, Richmond.
> >
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